The #1 Pick in the 2010 NFL Draft will go to....
Four weeks to go....
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1. Cleveland
2. Tampa Bay 3. St Louis 4. Detroit Then probably the chiefs to round out the top 5? |
I fully expect the top 5 to be:
1. STL 2. CLE 3. TB 4. DET 5. KC |
After filling this out, I can't believe the Raiders have 4 wins.
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Can't wait. Barring any crazy runs, Niners should have two picks in the 10-15 range which will hopefully be used to address the OL.
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Cleveland needs so much, it's hard to know where to begin. I'm sure the fans will just hope that they don't make a mistake of Couch-esque proportions again.
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Tampa - I think Brady Quinn wins a couple of games for the Browns before the end of the season. He really looked pretty good (1 fumble aside) against the Chargers.
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I think the 3-9 teams are completely out of it.
Who would get it when (oops, I mean if) Cleveland and St. Louis tie at 1-15? That's my pick. And could either really take the guy looking like the best player in the draft? Suh has got to play DT in the 4-3, so he's a poor fit in Cleveland (although who knows what Mangini's successor will run). And can St Louis really sell a 3rd defensive lineman/4th lineman in 4 years to their fans? |
Depends on how tie breakers go, but I really have a hard time thinking about anything Tampa Bay would have to give me hope.
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Don't worry, the fucking Steelers will lose to the Browns.
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I'm rooting for the Browns to get it...just so they can struggle with the decision to draft another over-hyped Notre Dame prospect to be their franchise quarterback of the future.
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It'll go from unleashing hell to hell freezing over. |
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For those wondering, SOS is the first tie breaker unless a playoff and non-playoff team are involved.
NFL Draft - Determining NFL Draft Order |
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I knew that - I don't really feel like calculating it. |
And of course, it goes by lowest SOS.
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Found someone who HAS calculated this, and they have Cleveland with the lowest, then TB, then STL.
I expect Cleveland to keep this, with KC and Oak on the schedule. Of course, that actually presents them with two opportunities for wins, and screwing up the pick. TB has NO and no horrible teams on the schedule, so they could end up worse than STL, who has teams with largely mediocre records upcoming. I see the draft order ending STL, TB, Cleve, with the picks being Suh, Gerald McCoy and Locker. |
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Why would Cleveland and Tampa Bay take QBs when they recently invested in 1st round QBs? |
Gerald McCoy is a DT. But yeah, I don't see Cleveland taking a QB either. Quinn has actually looked pretty decent in the last couple of weeks IMO.
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And why wouldn't St. Louis take a QB?
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StLouis will take a QB. Locker or Bradford.
Cle and TB will not be selecting a QB. |
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Oh, they need a QB, I agree. But, if they are at 1, and there is not a #1 overall worthy QB, why wouldn't they take the best player in the draft, who also happens to play a need position, instead of a QB? If St. Louis picks third, and Suh is gone, I think they'd take Locker. Why would Cleveland take a QB? Because by April he will be the choice of the guy two GM's ago, and he is not a starting caliber NFL QB? The last part may be up for debate, but the first part is not. Regime changes tend to bring about 'franchise QB' changes, and Cleveland seems poised to have the most complete changing of the guard in the football operation we have seen in many years. They will even change the ushers. Its never too early to give up on the last guys' players. |
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For the same reason every other team that picks #1 doesn't? :p |
Wow. Locker in top 3? I like him, but he's at least three years away from being effective at the pro level IMO.
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It's far too close to call between the 1-11 teams right now.
Opponent victories so far: Cleveland 102, St. Louis 105, Tampa Bay 108. Detroit's at 102 as well. Strength of schedule for remaining games: Cleveland .417, St. Louis .479, Tampa Bay .604. Detroit's at .500. If expected favorites win each remaining game: 1. Tampa Bay, 2. St. Louis, 3. Cleveland (could well be favored over Oakland at home, though would be 1st with a loss), 4. Washington, 5. Detroit, (KC 8th). |
I like Locker, but I think the Rams would be nuts to take him.
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There is no doubt St Louis takes a QB. Bulger is done. He will be cut this offseason. Clausen will be the pick for the Rams. Bradfords injury scares teams and esp the Rams with the recent history of injured QBs. Locker will not be the pick.
Clausen to the Rams. Book it. |
Clausen & Weis to the Rams actually makes some sense.
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I hope you're wrong.. I think they pick Suh if he's available or Dez Bryant if Suh is not available. Too many iffy QB's in the draft.. they can pick one in the 2nd round. |
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I think the only way this happens is if Boller shows something in the last few games. Or Null comes in and proves to be something usable. But with a new coach, he will want to get his own guy. I could see Suh, since Spags is a D coach, but you cant win with a DT and no QB. |
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I agree with you that there are at least 6-7 players in this draft better than the best QB. But, what QB do you think you'll get in the second round? I am certain Locker, Clausen and Bradford will be gone. There seems a good possibility that Tebow would be gone too. You want McCoy leading your team. You might be better off with Vick. |
St. Louis has a ridonculous schedule -- they are the only team near the bottom with no game in which they seemingly have a chance. Everybody else has some winnable games. Cleveland gets a plunging Pittsburgh at home, at Kansas City then Oakland and Jacksonville at home. Heck, Cleveland could go 3-1 without a lot of work.
If I'm the Rams I trade down. They have more problems than one No. 1 will solve, and they need a QB in a year in which no QB deserves to go No. 1. So trade the pick to Oakland for an assload of picks so Al Davis can get nuts and draft Tim Tebow and the Rams can get a promising QB and fill some other holes. |
And I've said it before and I'll say it again, anyone who lets Suh pass by them can simly turn in their NFL membership card. Assuming he doesn't get hurt, he will anchor a defensive line for someone until 2020.
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Just released by the UW:
Locker will come back for his Senior season. Crazy considering McShay's most recent mock draft has him going #1 overall. Wow, great news for the Huskies! |
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That probably decreases the Lions chances of getting Suh. Drat.
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I think there is no chance he makes it to them no matter who is in the draft, assuming they climb no higher than 4th. |
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I could see it. Take Locker, Clausen, and one guy with "intangibles" and Suh falls to 4. |
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I think it's pretty slim too, but you never know. After the combine and all the obsessing that goes on between the end of bowl season and the actual draft, crazier things have happened. |
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I could see the quarterbacks going to Cleveland and St. Louis. Don't think its likely, but teams bypass better players for QBs all the time. But Tampa? Not a chance Suh gets by them, whether they have 1,2 or 3. I don't think you often see guys being taken on 'intangibles' in the top 3. |
If you want Suh you better pick first because someone is going to trade up for him regardless.
Lions are going to get my man love Eric Berry based on their new found allegiance to BPA. He will be the BPA and though it is odd to have two amazing safeties, it's the easiest way to fix this sieve secondary. If Cleveland beats KC this weekend (which is entirely possible) Detroit moves up to 3. I now actually expect them to stay there come the draft. |
Suh has to be the #1 overall pick at this point, regardless of the team with the first overall selection. (unless injury, total unpreparedness at combine/workout, or arrest).
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My thoughts are we stay with Bulger.. yeah, I'm not a fan.. at ALL.. BUT Jackson only has maybe 3 years left and I'd take Dez Bryant, which would give you 3 good WR's for him to throw to and then grab a OL in the second round. I don't think our defense is that bad.. maybe get a good FA or two in that department. |
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I'd rather stay with poop head Bulger at this point - our greatest asset, Steven Jackson doesn't have that many years left - we need offense NOW! |
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Not a bad idea really.. you're right, we need a TON of players.. at least on offense. |
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I was serious about Vick. I don't think Philly pays his bonus and keeps him next year, and I think the Rams would score more points with him next year than any other option. I was responding to the thought that the Rams take Suh 1st and pick up a QB in the 2nd. I did not think one would be available. Then again, McCoy might be, and might be worth an early 2. But, why not sign Vick for 2010 AND draft McCoy with the 2.1-2.2? |
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i wish nothing but misery and an 0-16 season on any organization that signs mike vick |
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The NFL is not about morality, its about wins. I gotta think Vick gives them more offense than Bulger. And he'd be far better behind a leaky offensive line. |
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