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Edward64 02-25-2008 08:07 PM

Singapore Airlines
 
Just came back from overseas. Flew on Singapore, Korean, Delta.

Have flown most major domestic US carriers and Lufthansa.

I my opinion, Singapore Airlines service is above the rest. And it comes down to the SA stewardesses. Anyone else agree?

Cringer 02-25-2008 08:08 PM

Are they hot? Is that the reason?

Edward64 02-25-2008 08:21 PM

They are attractive but that really isn't the only reason.

Very attentive, always with a smile (try that with Delta), speaks perfect English (eg. with Korean had to struggle to understand their "sing-song" voice) and, from reading in a Singapore newspaper, they are supposed to engage in conversations with the passengers.

Now granted, I flew business class and there are no 'domestic' flights in Singapore to compare to since everything is overseas ... but they definitely have the right model.

Klinglerware 02-25-2008 08:35 PM

Singapore and Thai have very good reputations for service. Unfortunately I have not flown with either, so I can't really say for sure.

finkenst 02-25-2008 08:41 PM

this is also what i've heard. Unfortunately, the only flight(s) that we can fly singair on is singapore-LA and possibly singapore-india or melbourne, au

Edward64 02-25-2008 08:50 PM

Quick google for Cringer.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16762907/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Girl

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Indus...3740777&page=1

Galaxy 02-25-2008 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 1668402)
Just came back from overseas. Flew on Singapore, Korean, Delta.

Have flown most major domestic US carriers and Lufthansa.

I my opinion, Singapore Airlines service is above the rest. And it comes down to the SA stewardesses. Anyone else agree?


Singapore has "private suites" on the 380's they are getting. Of course, you pay a premium on SIA in comparison to other airlines. Emirates and Cathay Pacific is on the same level as Singapore.

With merger talks getting serious here in the US, it'll be interesting.

Mustang 02-25-2008 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 1668413)
they are supposed to engage in conversations with the passengers.
.


What were they doing, trying to get you to buy them a drink?

VPI97 02-25-2008 09:02 PM

I've never flown Singapore Air, but I've heard Thai Air is extremely good. My best experiences have all been with KLM...I won't go across the Atlantic with anyone but them.

Passacaglia 02-25-2008 09:03 PM

KLM is gonna rock ya

cartman 02-25-2008 09:06 PM

I loved Lufthansa's First Class, especially upstairs on the 747s. I miss flying back and forth once a month.

Crapshoot 02-25-2008 09:07 PM

Singapore airlines is absolutely fantastic, but nothing beats Emirates. When I lived in Ethiopia, I almost always had to fly one leg via Ethiopian (to Dubai), and the second leg to India via Emirates. Suffice it to say that going to India was always a better experience than coming back. :D Emirates is stunning.

Edward64 02-25-2008 09:15 PM

Crapshoot. I don't do business in that area so probably won't be flying Emirates anytime soon.

It seems you have the experience with both. Care to give me a quick comparison on why Emirates is better?

Edward64 02-25-2008 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VPI97 (Post 1668454)
I've never flown Singapore Air, but I've heard Thai Air is extremely good. My best experiences have all been with KLM...I won't go across the Atlantic with anyone but them.


Might have an opp to fly KLM to Europe this year ...

Galaxy 02-25-2008 10:36 PM

BTW, no sex please on Singapore:

http://travel.latimes.com/articles/la-trw-airbus1nov01

Edward, what do you do that allows you travel so much (and far) and in style!

Galaxy 02-25-2008 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 1668456)
I loved Lufthansa's First Class, especially upstairs on the 747s. I miss flying back and forth once a month.


I would love to have that lifestyle you had for few years you detailed in "face the board" post.

cartman 02-25-2008 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1668526)
I would love to have that lifestyle you had for few years you detailed in "face the board" post.


I'd like to have it back myself. :D

Galaxy 02-25-2008 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman (Post 1668527)
I'd like to have it back myself. :D


It stinks the company folded (correct?).

cartman 02-25-2008 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1668532)
It stinks the company folded (correct?).


Yep, for all intents and purposes. The Italian investor has (last time I talked to someone over there) a skeleton crew supporting a couple of the big clients that were still using the software.

cartman 02-25-2008 10:54 PM

But to get back on topic, I did get to fly Singapore Air one time, from Frankfurt to JFK. However, I think it was a positioning flight and not a normally scheduled flight, because the crew was from several other Star Alliance airlines. The flight was only about 10% full. The food I had was the normal Lufthansa menu. So I can't really say that I've been on a true Singapore Air flight.

finketr 02-26-2008 07:56 AM

I <3 Star Alliance.

Coffee Warlord 02-26-2008 08:37 AM

Tell you what, after my first class flight to Hawaii & back a few months back, it's going to be very, very hard to fly cattle class anymore. First Class is Teh Awesome.

finketr 02-26-2008 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 1668633)
Tell you what, after my first class flight to Hawaii & back a few months back, it's going to be very, very hard to fly cattle class anymore. First Class is Teh Awesome.


yeah.. business class or higher is pretty nice...

United econ plus isn't that bad depnding on length of flight, but fiddler player class is difficult.

Edward64 02-26-2008 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang (Post 1668453)
What were they doing, trying to get you to buy them a drink?


Drinks are free. They have their own Kris Sling.

Edward64 02-26-2008 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1668525)
BTW, no sex please on Singapore:

http://travel.latimes.com/articles/la-trw-airbus1nov01

Edward, what do you do that allows you travel so much (and far) and in style!

Consulting with Big-4. At a certain level, if the flights exceed x hrs I can fly Business.

Schmidty 02-26-2008 10:30 AM

I can't even imagine flying overseas. I'm afraid of the flying, and I'm terrified of the ocean, so as nice as the ailines might be, it would still be a nightmare.

It's a bummer, because there are so many places I'd love to go, but I'm not sure I'll ever get past my phobias.

finketr 02-26-2008 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 1668744)
Consulting with Big-4. At a certain level, if the flights exceed x hrs I can fly Business.


+1

ours is 10+ hours in a single flight or 14+ hours of actually flight time.

yes i ahve used this to my benefit and took a 10:05 DFW-GRU flight instead of the 3h ord-mia + 5h mia-gru flights.

Warhammer 02-26-2008 11:09 AM

This makes me want to start my own airline. How does "Happy Ending" airlines sound? You always get serviced with a smile!

cartman 02-26-2008 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warhammer (Post 1668816)
This makes me want to start my own airline. How does "Happy Ending" airlines sound? You always get serviced with a smile!


Didn't "Hooters Air" already try this?

:D

mrsimperless 02-26-2008 11:19 AM

Pretty much every non-domestic airline I've ever flown is head and shoulders above their US counterparts. I flew Qantas once which is a partner with American which I have Executive Platinum status on. They treated me much better than American EVER did. I bet the Qantas members who fly the "partner" airline AA get a huge shock when they do the opposite crossover that I did.

Castlerock 02-26-2008 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsimperless (Post 1668838)
Pretty much every non-domestic airline I've ever flown is head and shoulders above their US counterparts.

You have obviously never flown Аэрофлот (Aeroflot).

They are actually pretty hit-or-miss. Most of their international flights are like everyone else but when they are bad... they are BAD.

Galaxy 02-26-2008 12:10 PM

What's the different between first class and business class on international flights?

finketr 02-26-2008 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1668945)
What's the different between first class and business class on international flights?


when i flew dfw-gru and ord-nrt-sin in business class, the seats were not lie-flat like in first class. Also, in first class on the ord-nrt-sin flights you could isolate yourself from the external plane.

mrsimperless 02-26-2008 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1668945)
What's the different between first class and business class on international flights?


If the plane crashes nose first then those in business class live a few milliseconds longer.

cartman 02-26-2008 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1668945)
What's the different between first class and business class on international flights?


Generally the seats are a lot more comfortable, more privacy, better flight attendant to passenger ratio, and the food is better, but not as much difference between business and first as there is between coach and business. Like on Lufthansa, you would get caviar as an appetizer in 1st, but not in business class.

Also, depending on the airline and destination airport, if you are in first class you get some extra perks like a special passport line or a special destination lounge with real showers, complimentary clothes pressing and a sit-down meal.

Galaxy 02-26-2008 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsimperless (Post 1668968)
If the plane crashes nose first then those in business class live a few milliseconds longer.


That's traveling in style.

finketr 02-26-2008 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 1669001)
Generally the seats are a lot more comfortable, more privacy, better flight attendant to passenger ratio, and the food is better, but not as much difference between business and first as there is between coach and business. Like on Lufthansa, you would get caviar as an appetizer in 1st, but not in business class.

Also, depending on the airline and destination airport, if you are in first class you get some extra perks like a special passport line or a special destination lounge with real showers, complimentary clothes pressing and a sit-down meal.


if you're in first or business class you get a special check-in line up front which is always awesome in big airports.

also, with united airlines, as i understand it, you can use the red-carpet lounges when you have an international ticket regardless of what seating you have. this is awesome when you have 6 hours to wait around in o'hare.

When i returned from sao paulo (gru) to dfw (business class), my colleague and I got clearance to sit in the admiral's club for the 6 hours we were there waiting for the RJ flight home.

with my current FF status on united, i get access to the united business check-in lines regardless of my tickets or the appropriate star alliance airline that i'm flying on.

finketr 02-26-2008 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 1669001)
Generally the seats are a lot more comfortable, more privacy, better flight attendant to passenger ratio, and the food is better, but not as much difference between business and first as there is between coach and business. Like on Lufthansa, you would get caviar as an appetizer in 1st, but not in business class.

Also, depending on the airline and destination airport, if you are in first class you get some extra perks like a special passport line or a special destination lounge with real showers, complimentary clothes pressing and a sit-down meal.


if you're in first or business class you get a special check-in line up front which is always awesome in big airports.

also, with united airlines, as i understand it, you can use the red-carpet lounges when you have an international ticket regardless of what seating you have. this is awesome when you have 6 hours to wait around in o'hare.

When i returned from sao paulo (gru) to dfw (business class), my colleague and I got clearance to sit in the admiral's club for the 6 hours we were there waiting for the RJ flight home.

with my current FF status on united, i get access to the united business check-in lines regardless of my tickets or the appropriate star alliance airline that i'm flying on.

darkenigma510 02-26-2008 03:13 PM

I agree 100%. Even in coach, service and comfrt are excellent. Business class is even better and have never met anyone who flew S.A. who disgareed with this point.

darkenigma510 02-26-2008 03:13 PM

and yes, stewardeses are young and hot ;)

ColtCrazy 02-26-2008 09:38 PM

For my money, nothing beats Dutch airline KLM. I have flown them 3 times and even on a short city hopper from Amsterdam to London I was served real ham sandwiches with belgian chocolates. The service is amazing.

I haven't flown Singapore, but my Uncle works is Saudi and has flown them several times and swares by them.

Edward64 02-26-2008 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColtCrazy (Post 1669704)
For my money, nothing beats Dutch airline KLM. I have flown them 3 times and even on a short city hopper from Amsterdam to London I was served real ham sandwiches with belgian chocolates. The service is amazing.

I haven't flown Singapore, but my Uncle works is Saudi and has flown them several times and swares by them.

Okay, on my next trip to Europe, if SA is not available I will try KLM.

Phalid 02-26-2008 10:24 PM

By chance have you had one of these landings?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6UQLIfQasg

Edward64 02-26-2008 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phalid (Post 1669763)
By chance have you had one of these landings?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6UQLIfQasg

Scary, never experienced that. My worst flights (which really weren't that bad) was 2 consequtive aborted landings on a single flight and when my plane hit a service truck after it landed, headed to the gate.

A friend was on one that depressurized and the oxygen masks dropped. They did an emergency descent and landed quicker than he thought possible.

Galaxy 03-01-2008 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 1669758)
Okay, on my next trip to Europe, if SA is not available I will try KLM.


KLM is owned by Air France now.

Galaxy 05-22-2010 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 1668456)
I loved Lufthansa's First Class, especially upstairs on the 747s. I miss flying back and forth once a month.



Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 1669001)
Generally the seats are a lot more comfortable, more privacy, better flight attendant to passenger ratio, and the food is better, but not as much difference between business and first as there is between coach and business. Like on Lufthansa, you would get caviar as an appetizer in 1st, but not in business class.

Also, depending on the airline and destination airport, if you are in first class you get some extra perks like a special passport line or a special destination lounge with real showers, complimentary clothes pressing and a sit-down meal.



Wanted to bump this. I saw Lufthansa got its first Airbus 380 and introduced its new first class (which will be rolled out over the rest of the fleet in time). Talk about a great life. Throw in the luxury of the incredible First Class Terminal/Lounge in Frankfurt (and a the lounge in Munich), it pays to be rich.


Also, on the LH Milage counter for its FF program, why does it show up as :
"5.490 Miles" (is the period the European way for the ","?) for an transatlantic flight when it requires 100,000 miles per year to reach one of its status level.

ColtCrazy 05-22-2010 02:26 PM

Never been on Singapore. I flew KLM on a cityhopper from Amsterdam to London once. Never had better service, or better food for that matter. Very disappointed when I couldn't figure out how to fly them to London this summer with my points.

Marc Vaughan 05-22-2010 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 1668633)
Tell you what, after my first class flight to Hawaii & back a few months back, it's going to be very, very hard to fly cattle class anymore. First Class is Teh Awesome.


Before I went into games I worked quite closely with airlines doing Flight Sims - one of the perks of that was always travelling First or Business class ..... I still miss it today :( .... especially as I got off a 'cattle class' Atlantic trip yesterday evening and am still decompressing my body today ;)


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