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mrsimperless 07-06-2005 01:16 PM

Billy Corgan's new album
 
...is a ginormous pile of steaming poo.

And I say this about the man I consider to be the greatest songwriter since John Lennon.

The best way to describe the album would be Machina B-sides. The whole thing is a mess. And with the exception of a couple songs almost every track sounds the same. Like was posted in the pumpkins reforming thread, supposedly Chamberlain plays on a few of the tracks, but I sure as hell couldn't tell with all that Elektronika racket Billy was bandying about. My ears started bleeding on track #4 when I realized just how bad it was.

I'm not completely giving up yet, but I need to let this one sit on the shelf for a couple of months before I even look at it again.

CamEdwards 07-06-2005 01:18 PM

sounds like my reaction to Wilco's "A Ghost is Born"

GreenMonster 07-06-2005 01:19 PM

That is sad to hear I too like Corgan's work..

timmynausea 07-06-2005 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenMonster
That is sad to hear I too like Corgan's work..


You know who thinks the world of Corgan's work?

Corgan.

mrsimperless 07-06-2005 03:47 PM

Heh. I think that goes for just about any band frontman I've ever heard of. Some cocky bastages. But usually not too funny.

yabanci 07-06-2005 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsimperless
...is a ginormous pile of steaming poo.

And I say this about the man I consider to be the greatest songwriter since John Lennon.

The best way to describe the album would be Machina B-sides. The whole thing is a mess. And with the exception of a couple songs almost every track sounds the same. Like was posted in the pumpkins reforming thread, supposedly Chamberlain plays on a few of the tracks, but I sure as hell couldn't tell with all that Elektronika racket Billy was bandying about. My ears started bleeding on track #4 when I realized just how bad it was.

I'm not completely giving up yet, but I need to let this one sit on the shelf for a couple of months before I even look at it again.


Everything you said here is dead on. The SPs have always been one of my favorites, and I even liked Zwan (except for Paz's terrible background vocals), but Corgan's solo album is boring, boring crap IMO. After listening to it, I began hoping the SPs never reform.

Daimyo 07-07-2005 12:00 AM

Agreed. I didn't like the turn they took with Machina, and this album is similar but much worse than that one.

NoMyths 07-07-2005 12:14 AM

He's written great songs, but he's a terrible poet.

Karlifornia 07-07-2005 01:30 AM

Yeah...I was a big Pumpkins fan as an adolescent/teen, and I suppose you could say I still am, but I will stay away from any Billy Corgan side projects or solo work. Even if the Pumpkins reformed, I would have to hear some positive reaction before buying it. His time as a relevant artist has come again. Maybe if he had gotten into heroin...just kidding.

Julio Riddols 07-07-2005 09:01 AM

So the "Machina" used to facilitate the final album for the Smashing Pumpkins must have been "Corgan grinders".. And now all we're left with is the remains of a once great songwriter burning on the doorstep of mediocrity?

Man, mediocrity should be pissed to find him like this. The two would have never crossed paths if this world were perfect. Cruel fate..


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