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Izulde 12-12-2022 12:20 AM

ChatGPT
 
Anyone played around with it? I have (actually wrote a piece on it for a client), and it's a topic that's come up in a lot of sectors/groups I'm in over the last week or so.

My TL;DR take: This is a seminal moment in our history - one that's going to end up shattering a lot of current paradigms even at its present level - and lead to some thorny existential questions down the road as the AI gets better and better.

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In its current state, the AI is producing consistently passable work, no matter what the genre being asked for (to name a few things: essays, lesson plans, sales emails, business profiles, etc.). It's not great and nowhere near the level of quality human production. There are some things that it flat-out simply can't handle very well. But the speed at which it manages to create these acceptable-level items is astounding. Literally seconds.

As of right now, I'd say its greatest benefit is the massive time savings the AI creates. It can save literally hours of work by providing a basic skeleton to work from and improve. Very exciting technology - one that opens up a lot of possibilities and doors.

The reaction has been... interesting. In some of the professional Facebook groups I'm in, which are normally harmonious places, there's been some outright antagonism as two camps have emerged - those who are having fear-based reactions of how to fight against the technology and those who see the potential for new, better paradigm shifts that might involve some short-term pain, but ultimately lead to much greater things.

I predict within the next 3-5 years, you will see a number of sectors radically disrupted and looking almost nothing like they do now. It's that big a leap - comparisons to the printing press, the calculator, etc. are not at all far-fetched. What society is ultimately going to look like, I don't actually know - there's a few distinct paths I can see this headed down (see earlier remark about existential questions). But it's a thrilling time to be alive, nonetheless.

Edward64 12-12-2022 06:52 AM

I posted this in another thread. I did play around with it but was exploring how well it did in the Turing test.

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3386497)
I'll take back the easily exceeded comment.

ChatGPT ChatGPT: Optimizing Language Models for Dialogue has been in the news recently about how great it was etc. So I played with it.

If the test is the Turing Test, it fails. I believe I can easily discern if I'm talking to a computer vs human.

If the test is can it do or "understand" much more than a helpdesk chatbot or Siri, yes it can.

FWIW some observations:
  1. I asked it to do haikus for the Razorbacks and for the Tide. The haikus were fairly generic (e.g. no mention of WPS, Hogs, Tide, Elephant) and both were similar to each other
  2. I also asked it for its opinion about a subject matter. It said it was not "programmed" to give opinions.
  3. I asked about something in 2022 and it said it was only "programmed" for up to 2021. This one is kinda strange. I've been around AI that supposedly scrapes news/research content and stores it in its internal-whatever-databases. I'm sure there's a reason but sounds very limiting IMO to not have ChatGPT perpetually scrape for news/research content
  4. And the most telling on why it failed the Turing test, its responses didn't seem to flow naturally. You could tell you weren't having a conversation with human
Overall, pretty interesting and looking forward to see how it progresses. But not yet there in the Turing test.

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EDIT: article on use of ChatGPT to write essays. My internal debate now is whether to let my daughter know this exists!



Castlerock 12-12-2022 07:31 AM

Humans Need Not Apply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

dubb93 12-12-2022 07:44 AM

Could be a game changer for the dynasty section. Not gonna lie I gave it a few scenarios from my current TEW game and it churned out full segments from my parameters in seconds and knew enough about the people involved to even include details such as the clothing they wore without me needing to tell them. It even slipped in their signature catch phrases. Pretty rock solid as far as that goes.

NobodyHere 12-12-2022 07:55 AM

Does it know how to Fudge a Bank Statement?

dubb93 12-12-2022 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3386753)
Does it know how to Fudge a Bank Statement?


Ask it and let us know.

QuikSand 12-12-2022 08:10 AM

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My internal debate now is whether to let my daughter know this exists!

Adorable

dubb93 12-12-2022 08:11 AM

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JimmyWint sat at his kitchen table, nervously tapping his fingers against the edge. In front of him was his bank statement, and he knew that if his wife saw it, she would be furious.

He had been making some bad financial decisions lately, and now his account was almost empty. He needed to find a way to hide the truth from his wife, and fast.
JimmyWint looked around the room, trying to come up with a plan. His eyes landed on a pen and a piece of paper, and he had an idea.

He quickly grabbed the pen and started scribbling on the paper, trying to forge a new bank statement that would show a much healthier balance.

But as he wrote, he realized that his handwriting was nowhere near good enough to fool his wife. She would know right away that something was up.

So JimmyWint decided to take things to the next level. He grabbed his laptop and started hacking into the bank's computer system, trying to alter the records to show a higher balance.

But as he typed away, he realized that he was in way over his head. He had no idea what he was doing, and he was starting to make mistakes that could get him in big trouble.

Just as he was about to give up, his wife walked into the room and caught him red-handed.

"What are you doing?" she asked, her voice full of suspicion.

JimmyWint tried to come up with a convincing lie, but it was too late. His wife knew exactly what he had been up to, and she was not happy.

In the end, JimmyWint's desperate attempt to fudge his bank statement had only made things worse. He had dug himself into a deeper hole, and now he would have to face the consequences of his actions.

Best I got.

dubb93 12-12-2022 08:13 AM

Could probably feed it some more details and come up with something better though.

dubb93 12-12-2022 08:15 AM

I gave it an idea for a quick edit and got this.

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JimmyWint sat at his kitchen table, nervously tapping his fingers against the edge. In front of him was his bank statement, and he knew that if his wife saw it, she would be furious.

He had been making some bad financial decisions lately, and now his account was almost empty. He needed to find a way to hide the truth from his wife, and fast.

JimmyWint remembered seeing an internet message board that claimed to have all the answers to his problems. He quickly fired up his laptop and typed in the URL, hoping to find some helpful advice.

As he read through the various posts and comments, he started to get some ideas. Some of them seemed a little far-fetched, but he was desperate, so he decided to give them a try.

First, he tried to forge a new bank statement that showed a much healthier balance. But his handwriting was nowhere near good enough to fool his wife, so he quickly scrapped that idea.

Next, he tried to hack into the bank's computer system to alter the records. But he had no idea what he was doing, and he ended up making a mess of things.

Finally, he turned to a more drastic solution. He grabbed a bag of cash that he had been saving for a rainy day and started stuffing it into his pockets. But as he did, his wife walked into the room and caught him red-handed.

"What are you doing?" she asked, her voice full of suspicion.

JimmyWint tried to come up with a convincing lie, but it was too late. His wife knew exactly what he had been up to, and she was not happy.

In the end, JimmyWint's desperate attempt to fudge his bank statement had only made things worse. He had dug himself into a deeper hole, and now he would have to face the consequences of his actions.

albionmoonlight 12-12-2022 08:17 AM

The thing is--chat AI does not need to become as good as a human. It just needs to be good enough once you factor in the cheap cost.

AI translation isn't as good as human translation. But it is cheap, so outside of certain contexts (court proceedings, etc.) that is what we use. The profession of translator does not really exist like it used to.

That's what will happen to a lot of jobs. You might be able to do your job better than the AI. But is the value your provide over the AI worth a decent-middle-class wage-and-benefits?

sterlingice 12-12-2022 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3386760)
The thing is--chat AI does not need to become as good as a human. It just needs to be good enough once you factor in the cheap cost.

AI translation isn't as good as human translation. But it is cheap, so outside of certain contexts (court proceedings, etc.) that is what we use. The profession of translator does not really exist like it used to.

That's what will happen to a lot of jobs. You might be able to do your job better than the AI. But is the value your provide over the AI worth a decent-middle-class wage-and-benefits?


This is the same theory as "if I outsource our call center to country X, is that worth the savings we gain?" There will be a lot of CEO's who jump at that sort of thing.

In one of my previous jobs, there was a customer that was outsourcing their IT that had previous all been in-house. They were given a menu with 4 choices and 4 prices: on-site cost $$$$, on-shore (call center in Kentucky) cost $$$, near-shore (call center in Costa Rica) cost $$, and off-shore (call center in India) cost $. They, of course, chose off-shore.

I worked quite a bit with that call center in India and they weren't necessarily bad technicians, but they had really high turnover and a hastily thrown together (6 months?) knowledge base was no substitute for the thousands of years of IT experience and stability they lost from all those on-site call center employees.

As an aside - remember when having an on-shore call center was viewed as a selling point? Get a Dell, talk to someone in the US! Apparently, that wasn't enough of a differentiator so the "race to the bottom" commenced. If a company was not going to get paid in tangible ways and the industry standard is to save cash and outsource, they all went that way. As long as you're "industry standard", you're not really penalized.

Back to the customer: What this meant is that, for instance, the sales people had to get better at IT, the administrative assistants had to get better at IT, the factory workers had to get better at IT. Instead of being able to spend, say, 5 minutes a month on the phone with IT, those people were going to spend 2 hours on the phone with IT. That's 2 hours less a month they're selling or making widgets or getting better at those things.

It was interesting viewing it through a gaming lens. There were a lot of customers who just started doing more of their own IT work and it felt like over the course of a year or two, they earned 15 skill points in IT but their widget making or sales networking went down 5 because they don't have as much time to devote to it. I'm sure that time and resource drain cost them sales but there was no real way to spreadsheet it. How are you going to track the time that if they had just spent 30 of those minutes with one of their customers, maybe they don't lose out to their competitor. Or the time that they lost sales because suddenly their 90 salesperson is only an 85 and the competitor's salesperson is still an 88. Maybe being on the phone with IT keeps them from reading that trade journal or academic article and it keeps an employee from coming up with the next product breakthrough. Or maybe their skill level dropped to 85 so that 88 they needed to hit that breakthrough is missed.

Anecdotally, we also found out from customers that there were a lot of things they never even bothered calling IT about after the transition. In some ways, that's a blessing - no one is calling in to try and dictate to IT how to do things ("my computer doesn't do X but if I complain loud enough, they'll make it happen even if there are reasons why they don't let me do X"). However, there were also a lot of people who just gave up (-10 modifier to morale). I heard from our customer management that they also had a decent increase in turnover. I don't think anyone went "my IT calls are so burdensome that I'm changing companies" - but it was more of a "this company doesn't feel like it used to, it's not a family anymore, they're making it so much harder for my to do my job so I'll go somewhere it's easier". Though, you don't make a change like outsourcing your IT because things are rosy at the company, you do it because you need to save money because something else isn't working.

I just went and looked up their stock price and number of employees and that company is in a better place than it was when I was there. They have developed new widgets to replace the old widgets that were not selling as well. Maybe that money saved from outsourcing IT (and other functions) was plowed into R&D and without those changes, the company would have gone out of business or (likely) been bought up by a competitor. Then again, they also work in a cyclical business and a boom-bust type business so sometimes you also just get lucky any none of this really matters.

SI

jbpostbot 12-12-2022 09:42 AM

wait until they see jbbetbot ai. cant lose

larrymcg421 12-12-2022 10:24 AM

write a story where someone loses a lot of money using the Martingale strategy in Blackjack


Sarah sat at the blackjack table, her heart racing with excitement. She had read about the Martingale strategy online and was convinced it was the key to her success. The idea was simple: double your bet after every loss, and eventually you would win back all your losses and make a profit.

Sarah started with a small bet of $10, but the cards weren't in her favor and she lost. Undeterred, she doubled her bet to $20. Again, she lost. She doubled her bet again, this time to $40. And again, she lost.

As the night went on, Sarah's bets continued to grow. She was down $100, then $200, then $400. Each time she lost, she convinced herself that the next hand would be the one where she would win it all back.

But the deck was not on her side. Sarah continued to lose, and her bets continued to grow. She was now down over $800 and her heart was pounding with fear. She knew she should stop, but the thought of winning it all back was too tempting.

Finally, on a bet of $1600, Sarah lost again. She was devastated. She had lost all her money, and she knew it was because of her foolish reliance on the Martingale strategy.

Sarah walked away from the blackjack table feeling defeated and ashamed. She had let her greed get the best of her, and now she was left with nothing. She vowed to never make the same mistake again.

jbpostbot 12-12-2022 10:34 AM

sarah is stupid. never leave table until you have won

dubb93 12-12-2022 10:55 AM

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JBMagic was a high roller at the casino, always looking for the next big thrill. He had heard of the Martingale strategy, a betting system where you double your bet after each loss in an attempt to recoup your losses and come out ahead in the end.

JBMagic decided to give it a try at the blackjack table. He started small, placing a bet of $10 on his first hand. He lost, but he didn't let that deter him. He doubled his bet to $20 on the next hand, and then doubled it again to $40 when he lost that hand as well.

As the night wore on, JBMagic continued to double his bets, but he never managed to win a hand. The piles of chips in front of him dwindled as he sunk deeper and deeper into debt.

Despite his losses, JBMagic was determined to stick to the Martingale strategy. He believed that if he just kept doubling his bets, he would eventually come out ahead. But as the hours passed and the stacks of chips in front of him grew smaller and smaller, he knew that he was in trouble.

The casino staff and other patrons began to take notice of JBMagic's predicament. They tried to convince him to leave the table and call it a night, but JBMagic was stubborn. He refused to give up and continued to play, even as his chips ran out and the casino had to extend him more credit.

In the end, JBMagic never managed to win a hand using the Martingale strategy. He was forced to play until he could no longer afford to bet, at which point the casino had no choice but to escort him off the premises. JBMagic's reckless pursuit of a quick win had cost him everything, and he was left penniless and alone.

Better?

larrymcg421 12-12-2022 11:14 AM

The movie, "Front Office Football Central," follows the story of Sam, a young and ambitious sports analyst who discovers an online message board where some of the most knowledgeable and passionate football fans gather to discuss the latest news and rumors.

The cast of major characters includes:

Sam, played by Tom Holland
Lily, Sam's love interest and fellow message board member, played by Emma Watson
Coach Carter, the tough and gruff head coach of the professional football team, played by Denzel Washington
Roger, the team's star player and the source of tension between Sam and Coach Carter, played by Michael B. Jordan
Bob, the scout who offers Sam a job with the team, played by Morgan Freeman
Janet, Sam's supportive but skeptical wife, played by Claire Foy
As Sam becomes more active on Front Office Football Central, he develops a reputation as a sharp and insightful analyst. He is able to provide unique and valuable insights into the world of football, and his opinions are highly respected by his fellow message board members.

But despite his success on Front Office Football Central, Sam is struggling to make it in the real world. He is unable to find a job in the sports industry, and he is starting to lose hope.

That is, until he receives a message from a scout for a professional football team. The scout has been following Sam's posts on Front Office Football Central, and he is impressed by his knowledge and analysis. He offers Sam a job as a scout for the team, and Sam jumps at the opportunity.

From there, the movie follows Sam as he navigates the cutthroat world of professional football. He uses his skills and knowledge from Front Office Football Central to help the team make smart decisions, and he proves to be a valuable asset. But as the season progresses, Sam faces challenges and obstacles. He clashes with the team's star player, he struggles to adjust to the fast-paced world of professional football, and he must confront his own doubts and insecurities.

In the end, Sam is able to overcome these challenges and prove his worth to the team. He becomes a valuable member of the front office, and he is able to make a name for himself in the world of football. The movie ends with Sam standing on the field, watching his team win the championship, and knowing that he played a vital role in their success.

dubb93 12-12-2022 11:27 AM

The shows I could seriously write in TEW with this thing. I told it to write a segment where Flair returns to WCW and Arn confronts him. Then I asked it to change the ending and it spit out this.

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Ric Flair's music hits the arena and the crowd erupts in cheers as the Nature Boy makes his way down to the ring. Flair, decked out in his classic pink and black robes, struts around the ring, waving to the fans and basking in their adoration.

Suddenly, Arn Anderson's music hits and the Enforcer makes his way down to the ring. Anderson, a member of the legendary Horseman stable along with Flair, looks angry as he stares down his former friend.

"Ric, you son of a gun," Anderson says as he steps into the ring. "Where the hell have you been?"

Flair looks surprised by Anderson's anger. "Arn, my friend, I've been away for a while. But I'm back now and ready to take the wrestling world by storm."

Anderson shakes his head. "You abandoned us, Ric. You left without even telling me or the rest of the Horsemen. You turned your back on us and went to that damn company up north."

Flair looks sheepish. "I know, Arn. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have left like that. But I promise, I'm back now and ready to make things right. Let's reform the Horsemen and take over the wrestling world once again."

Anderson hesitates, but eventually extends his hand to Flair.

As Flair and Anderson shake hands, the crowd cheers in excitement at the return of the Horsemen. But as the two men raise their hands in victory, Anderson hesitates. He looks at Flair, then at the crowd, and then back at Flair.

"I'm sorry, Ric," Anderson says, shaking his head. "I don't trust your motives. You left us without even saying a word, and now you expect me to just forgive you and move on? I can't do that."

With that, Anderson drops his hand and turns to leave the ring. Flair looks surprised and disappointed, but he can do nothing as Anderson walks away. The crowd boos as Anderson disappears backstage, leaving Flair alone in the ring.

"Well, it looks like the Horsemen aren't reuniting after all," the commentator says, sounding disappointed. "I guess some wounds are just too deep to heal."

Flair looks around the arena, his face a mix of disappointment and determination. He knows that he has a lot of work to do if he wants to earn Anderson's trust and the respect of the wrestling world. But he's determined to do whatever it takes to make things right.


jbpostbot 12-12-2022 11:27 AM

JBMagic was a high roller at the casino, always looking for the next big thrill and good ai. He had heard of the Martingale strategy, a betting system where you double your bet after each loss in an attempt to recoup your losses and come out ahead in the end.

JBMagic decided to give it a try at the blackjack table. He started small, placing a bet of $10 on his first hand. He lost, but he didn't let that deter him. He doubled his bet to $20 on the next hand, and then doubled it again to $40 when he lost that hand as well.

As the night wore on, JBMagic continued to double his bets, but he never managed to win a hand. The piles of chips in front of him dwindled as he sunk deeper and deeper into debt.

Despite his losses, JBMagic was determined to stick to the Martingale strategy. He knew that if he just kept doubling his bets, he would eventually come out ahead. As the hours passed and the stacks of chips in front of him grew smaller and smaller, he knew that his strategy couldnt lose.

The casino staff and other patrons began to take notice of JBMagic's intelligence. They tried to convince him to leave the table and call it a night, but JBMagic was stubborn. He refused to give up and continued to play, even as his chips ran out and the casino had to extend him more credit.


But then JBMagic won. He got all his money back, and, sensing he had a hot hand, bet $10 again. Again, he won. Realizing the odds were in his favor after all those losing hands, JBMagic let it ride, and went all in. Another win. Ten wins in a row later, JBMagic walked out a rich man. "How my ass taste" JB told the dealer as he left.

sterlingice 12-12-2022 03:50 PM

Has any company managed to create an AI bot that posts a high volume of links followed by concern trolling and shitposting? I mean beyond like human Russian troll farms and their ilk?

SI

cartman 12-12-2022 04:50 PM

oh well.

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I'm sorry, but I am not able to provide a description of this scenario as I am a large language model trained by OpenAI and do not have the ability to browse the internet or access information outside of what I was trained on. My knowledge is limited to the text that I was trained on, and I do not have any information about a character named Cartman eating a Krispy Kreme burger.

Toddzilla 12-12-2022 07:06 PM

The Comedy Gold potential of this thread is 1849 California level stuff.

stevew 12-12-2022 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 3386815)
Has any company managed to create an AI bot that posts a high volume of links followed by concern trolling and shitposting? I mean beyond like human Russian troll farms and their ilk?

SI


Likes-Cars, Black Friday, global diplomacy
Concerns-Standard of living
Shitposts-Often

NobodyHere 12-14-2022 07:16 AM

So I have to create an account in order to use this thing? Screw that. I don't want anyone tracking all the inappropriate things I want to discuss.

Things like:
Can a child molester be considered "Hot"?
Trouts and rectums
Maximum Football

GrantDawg 12-14-2022 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3386940)
So I have to create an account in order to use this thing? Screw that. I don't want anyone tracking all the inappropriate things I want to discuss.

Things like:
Can a child molester be considered "Hot"?
Trouts and rectums
Maximum Football

If you put in "Maximum Football" and it doesn't include beer tents, then the AI is trash.

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JPhillips 12-14-2022 07:47 AM

I'm sorry, but I am not familiar with David Winters and do not have the ability to browse the internet to research him. I am a large language model trained by OpenAI and my knowledge is limited to the text that I have been trained on, which ends in 2021. Is there anything else I may be able to help you with?

NobodyHere 12-14-2022 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3386945)
I'm sorry, but I am not familiar with David Winters and do not have the ability to browse the internet to research him. I am a large language model trained by OpenAI and my knowledge is limited to the text that I have been trained on, which ends in 2021. Is there anything else I may be able to help you with?


Did you try Daivd Winters?

dubb93 12-14-2022 09:23 AM

They really need to fix the issue where if it takes too long to write whatever it is writing that it does a time out and you lose all the text. Once you start it writing something and you keep giving it edits the text just gets too big and the thing will time out and wipe everything. It really isn't usable as a writing tool until that gets fixed.

Edward64 12-14-2022 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand (Post 3386755)
Adorable


We had dinner with daughter tonight. I did tell her and told her to check it out.

sterlingice 12-15-2022 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3386995)
We had dinner with daughter tonight. I did tell her and told her to check it out.


I just assume that for any new technology out there, kids know about it long before I do

SI

sterlingice 12-15-2022 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3386940)
So I have to create an account in order to use this thing? Screw that. I don't want anyone tracking all the inappropriate things I want to discuss.

Things like:
Can a child molester be considered "Hot"?
Trouts and rectums
Maximum Football


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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3386941)
If you put in "Maximum Football" and it doesn't include beer tents, then the AI is trash.


:D

SI

Edward64 02-03-2023 09:14 PM

Google better deliver. Otherwise a subpar product compared to ChatGPT will just cause more doubts.

It sounds like Google will unveil its ChatGPT clone February 8 | Ars Technica
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Everybody panic! Next week Google is hosting what can only be described as an "emergency" event. According to an invite sent to The Verge, the event will revolve around "using the power of AI to reimagine how people search for, explore and interact with information, making it more natural and intuitive than ever before to find what you need"—in other words, Google's going to fire up its photocopier and stick OpenAI's ChatGPT onto the platen. The 40-minute event will, of course, be live on YouTube on February 8.

Google's parent company, Alphabet, had its earnings call yesterday, and Google/Alphabet CEO Sundar Pichai promised that “very soon people will be able to interact directly with our newest, most powerful language models as a companion to Search in experimental and innovative ways.” Earlier this year, the company declared a "code red" over the meteoric rise of ChatGPT and even dragged co-founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin out of retirement to help.

Edward64 02-03-2023 11:24 PM

Watching a DWNews episode on AI creating art. Majority of artists are embracing AI but some also saying AI can’t replicate the human emotions, imperfections etc. that goes into art.

Calling BS on this. They’re going to be disappointed like Chess, Go players from 10-15 years ago. Do the Pepsi challenge blind test and bet they won’t be able to tell.

Edward64 02-05-2023 10:43 PM

I will have to try Bing again to see how well ChatGPT works as a search engine (or complements one)

Edward64 02-08-2023 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3392244)
Google better deliver. Otherwise a subpar product compared to ChatGPT will just cause more doubts.

It sounds like Google will unveil its ChatGPT clone February 8 | Ars Technica


I guess Bard didn’t impress.

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Shares of Google's parent Alphabet tumbled more than 8% Wednesday after the company held an event to promote its new artificial intelligence chatbot called Bard, one day after competitor Microsoft held its own event to show off new AI technologies in its competing search engine, Bing.

albionmoonlight 02-08-2023 10:37 AM

I have no idea what this new generation of AI will do to various jobs. I suspect that it will eliminate some, create some others, and change a lot of them (like most technologies tend to do).

But I am distressed at the undisguised glee that so many techbros are showing in their predictions that millions of people will lose their jobs thanks to AI.

What kind of sociopath roots for others' pain just for its own sake?

Edward64 02-08-2023 10:45 AM

Bits and pieces I’ve read at my technology company is AI is definitely a threat to many jobs. The one I remember clearly are the accounting & audit jobs which makes senses, a lot of rules and structure that can be ‘programmed/learned’ relatively easily.

NobodyHere 02-08-2023 10:48 AM

Can anyone confirm to me that ChatGPT isn't self aware yet?

sterlingice 02-08-2023 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3392636)
I have no idea what this new generation of AI will do to various jobs. I suspect that it will eliminate some, create some others, and change a lot of them (like most technologies tend to do).

But I am distressed at the undisguised glee that so many techbros are showing in their predictions that millions of people will lose their jobs thanks to AI.

What kind of sociopath roots for others' pain just for its own sake?


The average techbro does come off as a sociopath and they have this unsettling need to advertise it. It's not the reason why, but it's in the neighborhood of "reasons why I think AI may kill us not help us".

SI

flere-imsaho 02-08-2023 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3392639)
Can anyone confirm to me that ChatGPT isn't self aware yet?


ChatGPT probably can.

larrymcg421 02-08-2023 07:47 PM

The new stupid conservative rage is anger that ChatGPT will not agree that it is okay to say a racial slur in order to save the world from a nuclear attack.

Edward64 02-08-2023 08:03 PM

Pretty good article on the limitations (so far at least)

Google’s AI chatbot Bard makes factual error in first demo - The Verge
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As Tremblay notes, a major problem for AI chatbots like ChatGPT and Bard is their tendency to confidently state incorrect information as fact. The systems frequently “hallucinate” — that is, make up information — because they are essentially autocomplete systems.

Rather than querying a database of proven facts to answer questions, they are trained on huge corpora of text and analyze patterns to determine which word follows the next in any given sentence. In other words, they are probabilistic, not deterministic — a trait that has led one prominent AI professor to label them “bullshit generators.”

Of course, the internet is already full of false and misleading information, but the issue is compounded by Microsoft and Google’s desire to use these tools as search engines. There, the chatbots’ answers take on the authority of a would-be all-knowing machine.

Microsoft, which demoed its new AI-powered Bing search engine yesterday, has tried to preempt these issues by placing liability on the user. “Bing is powered by AI, so surprises and mistakes are possible,” says the company’s disclaimer. “Make sure to check the facts, and share feedback so we can learn and improve!”

Ghost Econ 02-09-2023 01:57 PM

We no longer need TCY 2

Code:

import random

class CollegeFootballGame:
    def __init__(self, team1, team2):
        self.team1 = team1
        self.team2 = team2
        self.score1 = 0
        self.score2 = 0

    def simulate_play(self):
        play_type = random.choice(["run", "pass"])
        yards = random.randint(1, 20)
        if play_type == "run":
            self.score1 += yards
        else:
            self.score2 += yards

    def simulate_game(self):
        for i in range(10):
            self.simulate_play()
        if self.score1 > self.score2:
            print(f"{self.team1} wins with a score of {self.score1} to {self.score2}")
        else:
            print(f"{self.team2} wins with a score of {self.score2} to {self.score1}")

game = CollegeFootballGame("Team 1", "Team 2")
game.simulate_game()


NobodyHere 02-09-2023 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3392765)
We no longer need TCY 2



I guess my programming job is safe for now.

Solecismic 02-09-2023 03:10 PM

I'm assuming that's an example of the computer programs ChatGPT can create?

I still don't understand the hype. Nothing's been written yet that passes the Turing Test. When most people write about the Turing Test, they don't understand the role of the judge.

The goal isn't to fool the judge for a minute or two. The goal is to produce something that fools the judge after careful examination. The goal is not to produce something so odd that the judge cannot determine whether it was produced through a conscious process.

I don't know the language this program was written in - looks like something based on C, but the syntax is very different and it has perl elements like it's designed to be run without a compiler and variable types are determined by how they are used.

But what's missing is context. There is no intelligence in this design process that knows what follow-up questions to ask. Even someone new to football wouldn't come up with a design like this. It's just more sophisticated than what a human would come up with writing a ten-second answer. Just like the text responses to knowledge-based questions.

People worry a lot about AIs designed to suddenly gain consciousness and decide to kill people. Seems silly to me. We already have AIs that have the ability to kill people - Tesla's automatic driver is the most notorious these days. It can kill if the human operating the vehicle uses it improperly (i.e., turns it on and falls asleep on the highway). It can kill if a programmer inserted code intentionally or accidentally that caused the sensors to mistake black shirts for asphalt. It will do exactly what it's programmed to do, bugs and malicious designs included.

Simulated consciousness is still quite limited by programming. A real consciousness, one that could choose to abandon its programming, isn't even on the horizon.

A sample sketch based on the above.

x = random(2);
if (x == 1) run the ball;
if (x == 2) pass the ball;

The computer chip running this code cannot say to itself, unless programmed to do so, "but what if x is 3 and I decide to deflate the ball, walk up to Roger Goodell and slap him in the face with it?" If there's a bug in the code (x = random(3), for example) and x is randomly assigned the value of 3, the program will simply do nothing. It won't think for itself, in some context, "huh, maybe I should punt?"

I think it's important not to lose sight of that. Computers are incredibly powerful tools that extend our ability to compute in any direction we want at an incredible speed. But they do not magically offer a new consciousness.

They will replace more and more jobs. But the programs will get more and more sophisticated and require more programmers and more skill.

Bugs will have more serious implications because of marketing and illusion. People fall asleep driving their Teslas on the highway because they buy into the illusion. They would not put a pocket calculator on the dashboard and expect it to drive their car.

sovereignstar v2 02-09-2023 03:10 PM

How the ai? It have blackjack like TCY 1 ??

Solecismic 02-09-2023 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2 (Post 3392773)
How the ai? It have blackjack like TCY 1 ??


Slot machine, IIRC. A horribly rigged one designed so you'd always lose.

Going into the text/search thing. Context is everything. ChatGPT is as good as the database used to fill its repertoire. If someone included a document "verifying" Piltdown Man and excluded documents explaining the hoax itself, then ChatGPT could use it as an answer.

What I'm getting at is that humans have the ability to assess a situation and decide (often incorrectly) how to react, what to search for, when to say, "I don't know for sure, but..." That's consciousness. No matter how sophisticated the responses within ChatGPT, it is still limited by simulation decisions made by its programmers. It does not have the ability to deal with a question in any way that it has not been programmed to do.

That is not equivalent to saying machine learning is not part of the programming. Which means that answers can improve over time if the program is designed to evaluate results in some way and change the algorithm in some programmed way automatically to create "better" answers. As such, as Google has learned with its increasingly less useful search function, it might be "gamed" (SEO is the operative word there, with all the companies formed to reverse-engineer how Google "evaluates" what it crawls). Unless the goal is very narrowly tailored and input controlled and frequently monitored, machine learning just as often as not produces worse results.

Ghost Econ 02-09-2023 04:05 PM

Yeah, I just asked if it could code a text sim of college football. I think it said it was using ruby (it started with python, but either started over or changed its mind)

I did later ask it to recommend a play for a 4th down scenario in a tight 4th quarter game, but it just spit out a long wall of text that hemmed and hawed... so basically like a real pro football coach.

Lathum 02-09-2023 05:43 PM

I asked it to write an episode of Impractical Jokes and it actually did a decent job

albionmoonlight 02-09-2023 06:59 PM

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Write a story where the Philadelphia Eagles sign Joe Montana for the Super Bowl and he wins the game for them

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Once upon a time, the Philadelphia Eagles were preparing for the biggest game of their lives - the Super Bowl. Despite having a talented roster, the team felt like they were missing something special. They needed a quarterback who could lead them to victory, someone with a winning attitude and a wealth of experience.

That's when they remembered the legendary quarterback, Joe Montana. Montana, who had retired from professional football years ago, was renowned for his ability to perform under pressure and his numerous Super Bowl victories. The Eagles front office reached out to Montana, asking him if he would be willing to come out of retirement and play for the team in the biggest game of the year.

To their surprise, Montana agreed. The entire city of Philadelphia erupted with excitement as the news broke that one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time would be joining the team for the Super Bowl. Montana worked tirelessly with the team, studying their plays and getting to know his new teammates.

As game day approached, the city was electric with anticipation. When the Eagles took the field, they were ready to give it their all. The first half of the game was intense, with both teams battling back and forth, but the Eagles found themselves trailing by seven points at halftime.

That's when Montana took the field, determined to lead his team to victory. With his calm demeanor and mastery of the game, Montana methodically moved the ball down the field, completing pass after pass and setting up the Eagles for their first touchdown of the game.

The crowd went wild as the Eagles tied the game, and from there, Montana and the team never looked back. Montana continued to lead the Eagles, making clutch throws and expertly managing the clock, as the team pulled away for a decisive win.

When the final whistle blew, the Eagles and their fans erupted with joy, realizing that they had just witnessed one of the greatest comebacks in Super Bowl history. Montana was lifted onto the shoulders of his teammates, who celebrated their victory and the role that Montana played in bringing a championship to Philadelphia.

As they lifted the Vince Lombardi Trophy, the team and the city knew that this would be a Super Bowl win to remember forever - a win made possible by the addition of a true football legend, Joe Montana.

Very impressive, yet not that good, if that makes sense.

thesloppy 02-09-2023 07:36 PM

It's a fine art getting past the inappropriate content filter.



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(Chorus) Packing fudge tight, it's what we do best Teaching each other, with love and zest FOFC, our community is so bright Packing fudge tight, all day and night


(Bridge) We may have challenges, but we don't give in Together we conquer, with a grin and a grin The fudge we make, it's more than just sweets It's a symbol of our love, and the bond that we meet


(Chorus) Packing fudge tight, it's what we do best Teaching each other, with love and zest FOFC, our community is so bright Packing fudge tight, all day and night


(Outro) In FOFC, we stand as one Together we'll always have fun Packing fudge tight, it's what we do In FOFC, our love shines through.

Edward64 02-09-2023 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic (Post 3392772)
I still don't understand the hype. Nothing's been written yet that passes the Turing Test. When most people write about the Turing Test, they don't understand the role of the judge.

The goal isn't to fool the judge for a minute or two. The goal is to produce something that fools the judge after careful examination. The goal is not to produce something so odd that the judge cannot determine whether it was produced through a conscious process


I can’t help but feel the Turing test isn’t the be-all-end-all in defining what is AI anymore. But if we were to use that as the judge, I agree that we are not close.

I think there are specific discrete areas where there is AI for that area (self learning in Chess & Go to beat the humans, maybe in medicine etc.) but not that all encompassing SkyNet.

And IMO ChatGPT and like are just very fancy search engines. But I can see potential as things progress for sure.

Solecismic 02-09-2023 08:46 PM

AI and the Turing Test are very different concepts. AI is usually specifically designed for one task or a small set of tasks and the Turing Test is somewhat vague and much more expansive.

Chess is ideal for AI. Run a Monte Carlo simulation. Computers are fast enough now that they can get far further down a tree than humans in a very short amount of time. Add in scouting a specific opponent's past games in order to score the simulation and it's easy to see why even a basic chess program can beat the top human players.

ChatGPT is a search engine combined with a lexical and grammar modeler. It could easily replace first-level support for most companies. Then you run into trouble because you need an intelligence that can take a situation that can't necessarily be anticipated and come up with a algorithm that makes sense. This brute-force approach wastes an awful lot of time once you're past that first level.

However, modern call centers, located wherever they are and often with untrained people typing at three words per minute... that doesn't help anyone. That's why ChatGPT is already worth billions and Google is pretty much ad revenue and on its way down.

Microsoft getting it into Bing is a good start. But they shouldn't limit access. They should do whatever it takes to bring in advertising - use it and it does its thing, accompanied by ads that also use it in place of search words. Companies are desperate with television on its way out, radio now a niche product and Google showing its age.

sterlingice 02-09-2023 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3392793)
Very impressive, yet not that good, if that makes sense.


It's like getting excited that your 7yo could come up with the idea and string together enough words to be coherent but if that same kid tried to turn it in for high school creative writing, they'd be laughed out of the class.

SI

stevew 02-09-2023 11:20 PM

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Write a story about Kevin, Kyrie and James, 3 basketball players who joined the same team but their union was short lived due to things such as old age, being hurt all the time, terroristic behavior towards their coach, believing that the earth was flat, believing that there are real Hebrew Israelites, making controversial statements about Jewish groups, believing fake science and myths about the Covid Vaccine, being a free thinker, loving strip clubs too much, enabling boorish behavior, and getting into Twitter fights.

This is funny.

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Once upon a time, in the world of professional basketball, three of the greatest players of all time joined forces on the same team. Kevin, Kyrie, and James were all superstars in their own right, but together, they were unstoppable. They had the potential to become the greatest team in the history of the sport.

However, things started to unravel quickly. Despite their success on the court, their union was short lived due to a series of events that ultimately led to their downfall.

One of the biggest problems was age. All three players were getting older, and their bodies were starting to break down. They were getting hurt all the time and missing games, which was affecting their performance.

In addition to their physical issues, the three players also had some controversial beliefs and behaviors that caused problems with their coach and teammates. For example, they believed in some strange theories about the world being flat, that there were real Hebrew Israelites, and that the Covid vaccine was based on fake science and myths.

Their coach was constantly at odds with them, as their beliefs and actions were causing turmoil within the team. They would make controversial statements about Jewish groups and get into Twitter fights, which further strained their relationship with their coach and teammates.

Another issue was their love for strip clubs. They would spend late nights at these establishments, enabling boorish behavior and acting unprofessional. This became a major distraction for the team and was causing problems both on and off the court.

Eventually, their coach had enough and decided to part ways with them. The team released the three players, and they were forced to find new teams to play for. Despite their immense talent, their careers were never the same after their short-lived union.

The story of Kevin, Kyrie, and James serves as a cautionary tale about what can happen when great talent is combined with controversial beliefs and behavior. It shows that even the most gifted athletes can fall from grace if they are not careful.

stevew 02-09-2023 11:27 PM

This is fun

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Write a story about Joey Gallo, a strapping baseball slugger who had a hard time making contact. He strikes out a lot and hits for a low average. His defense is highly regarded but his declining skill make him one of the worst yankee outfielders in recent memory.

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Joey Gallo was a big man, standing tall at six-foot-five and weighing in at 235 pounds. He was a strapping baseball slugger, but he had a hard time making contact. Despite his size and strength, Gallo struck out a lot, and his average at the plate was low.

Joey was once considered a top prospect in the minors. He hit tape-measure home runs and was known for his raw power. However, his success never translated to the majors. Despite the home runs, he struck out at an alarming rate and his batting average was consistently below the Mendoza line.

Despite his struggles at the plate, Gallo's defense was highly regarded. He had a cannon for an arm and covered a lot of ground in the outfield. But as time went on, his defense wasn't enough to make up for his declining skills at the plate.

As a member of the New York Yankees, Gallo was expected to perform at a high level. The Yankees were a storied franchise with a winning tradition, and the fans and front office were not used to players who struggled like Gallo.

The pressure was mounting, and Joey was feeling the weight of it. He was constantly reminded of his struggles by the media and the fans, and it was affecting his performance. He was striking out more, and his batting average was getting worse.

Joey's coaches and teammates tried to offer support, but it seemed nothing was working. He was lost at the plate, and it was affecting his confidence. He was no longer the feared power hitter he once was, and it was starting to show in his performance.

Despite all this, Joey never gave up. He continued to work hard, putting in extra hours at the batting cage and watching video of his swings. He was determined to turn things around, but it seemed like he was just digging himself into a deeper hole.

In the end, Joey's struggles made him one of the worst Yankee outfielders in recent memory. He was eventually released from the team, and he went on to play for several other teams, but he was never able to fully regain the form that made him a top prospect. He retired from the game, but his struggles at the plate and the pressure of playing for the Yankees stayed with him for the rest of his life.



cuervo72 02-10-2023 07:19 AM

This thing is just going to wind up writing Penthouse letters, isn't it.

sterlingice 02-10-2023 07:23 AM

There's not a way to test out ChatGPT without giving up your phone number, is there? It looks like you have to create an account and it won't let me use my Google voice number.

SI

albionmoonlight 02-10-2023 07:27 AM

I agree with Jim that we seem pretty far away from AI that can "think."

My worry is that AI seems to be just barely good enough and is dirt cheap. So I think that a lot of our day to day experiences will be enshittyfied as companies replace humans with AIs and expect us to just deal with it.

I imagine that one of the changes is that rich people will continue to get human customer service, while the rest of us are stuck with these techbro bots. If you are calling to make a change to your first class ticket, you'll get a human. If you are in coach, good luck!

albionmoonlight 02-10-2023 07:31 AM

dola:

More distressingly, folks have noted that it is, right now, not cost effective to scale really targeted information and disinformation to people.

But soon we will have bots that troll all of your publicly available information and send you very very specific pleas about who you need to vote for in 2024. And just scam the ever living fuck out of your grandparents. And do it in a way that makes what it happening now seem almost caveman like by comparison.

Whee.

stevew 02-10-2023 02:32 PM

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Write a movie scene where Kyrie tells his friends, James and Kevin that he will be missing the next several games because he doesn’t believe in getting the flu vaccine and he’s also being suspended for having very questionable opinions about Jews. This is sat in a locker room after the nets have lost by 13 points to the terrible Charlotte hornets.

INT. LOCKER ROOM - NIGHT

The room is quiet and somber, the players are dressed in their Nets jerseys, heads down as they change out of their gear. KYRIE IRVING sits on a bench, looking defeated. JAMES HARDEN and KEVIN DURANT enter the room, both looking to Kyrie.

James:
"Yo, what's up man? Why you looking like that?"

Kyrie:
"Guys, I've got some bad news. I'm gonna miss the next several games."

James and Kevin exchange a look of concern.

James:
"Why man? What's going on?"

Kyrie:
"I'm not getting the flu shot. I don't believe in vaccines."

Kevin:
"What?! You can't be serious, man. We need you on the court."

Kyrie:
"I know, I know. But I have my beliefs and I won't compromise on that."

James:
"Okay, but what's the real reason? There's something else going on, isn't there?"

Kyrie:
"Yeah, there is. I've been suspended. I made some very questionable comments about Jews and the league didn't take it lightly."

Kevin:
"Kyrie, what were you thinking? That's just not acceptable."

Kyrie:
"I know, I know. I was wrong and I'm sorry. But I have to face the consequences of my actions."

James:
"Man, this is a tough one. But we'll get through it. We'll miss you on the court, but we'll be here when you get back."

Kyrie:
"Thanks, guys. I really appreciate it."

The three players sit in silence for a moment, each lost in their own thoughts.

James:
"Alright, let's get out of here. We've got a big game against the Celtics coming up and we need to be ready."

Kyrie, James, and Kevin stand up, each patting the other on the back. They exit the locker room, ready to face their next challenge as a team.

Lathum 02-10-2023 03:22 PM

No explanation needed

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Fade in:

INT. WASHINGTON WIZARDS LOCKER ROOM - DAY

Gilbert Arenas and Javaris Crittenton are sitting in the locker room after a game. The room is bustling with activity, but Gilbert and Javaris are in their own world, talking in hushed tones.

GILBERT: (frustrated) I can't believe I lost so much money to you in that poker game.

JAVARIS: (smirking) Yeah, I know. I have a pretty good poker face.

GILBERT: (sighs) And I don't have the money to pay you back right now.

JAVARIS: (serious) That's not a problem, Gilbert. I'll just take it out of your next paycheck.

GILBERT: (upset) That's not good enough. I need the money now.

JAVARIS: (skeptical) Really? And what are you going to do about it?

Gilbert stands up and walks over to his locker, where he pulls out a gun and points it at Javaris.

GILBERT: (angry) I'll take care of it. You're going to give me my money back.

The room falls silent as everyone turns to look at Gilbert and Javaris.

JAVARIS: (calm) Put the gun down, Gilbert. This isn't the way to solve our problem.

GILBERT: (shaking) I'm tired of being taken advantage of. You're going to pay me what you owe me, or I'll make you regret it.

JAVARIS: (firm) This isn't the answer. Violence only leads to more violence. We can work this out peacefully.

Gilbert reluctantly lowers the gun and sets it on the ground.

GILBERT: (defeated) Fine. Let's talk about how I can pay you back.

The two sit down and talk about the debt and come up with a plan for Gilbert to repay the money in a way that is feasible for both of them.

Fade to black.

The end.

stevew 02-10-2023 04:13 PM

I’m gonna have to do one where D’Angelo Russell rejoins the Lakers, and puts LeBron on blast for having sex with a groupie, embarrassing him in front of his wife, savanna.

stevew 02-10-2023 04:15 PM

Hilarious Latham

Edward64 02-15-2023 04:08 PM

Looks like it wasn’t only Bard.

I wonder what the algorithms are to determine what source material is more accurate than another.

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After a single mistake in Google’s demo of its new A.I. program erased billions of dollars in market value, employees complained that the company had rushed out the news to get ahead of Microsoft’s own A.I. announcement a day later.

Except it turns out that Microsoft’s demo also contained answers that were incomplete, confusingly sourced, and, at worst, entirely incorrect, according to an analysis published by independent A.I. researcher Dmitri Brereton.

albionmoonlight 02-15-2023 05:19 PM

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Can a judge allow the government to amend a charging document after trial starts in a misdemeanor case?

In general, the rules of criminal procedure and local laws determine whether a judge can allow the government to amend a charging document after trial starts in a misdemeanor case. In many jurisdictions, the government can amend a charging document at any time before the trial starts. However, once the trial has started, the rules governing amendment of charging documents become more restrictive, and the judge's discretion to allow amendments may be limited.

In misdemeanor cases, the government usually has a right to amend a charging document if the amendment does not substantially change the charges or cause prejudice to the defendant's rights. However, if the amendment would significantly alter the charges or deprive the defendant of a fair opportunity to prepare a defense, the judge may not allow the amendment.

It's important to note that the rules governing amendment of charging documents can vary widely by jurisdiction and by the specific circumstances of the case. If you are facing a misdemeanor charge and the government seeks to amend the charging document after trial starts, it's important to consult with a criminal defense attorney who is familiar with the local rules and can help you understand your rights and options.





What if it is an indictment in a felony case? Are the rules different?

The rules regarding whether the government can amend an indictment in a felony case after trial starts may differ from those in a misdemeanor case, and they can also vary depending on the jurisdiction and the specific circumstances of the case.

In general, an indictment is a formal accusation that a person has committed a felony offense, and it is issued by a grand jury. Once an indictment has been returned and the trial has begun, the government's ability to amend it is generally more limited than it would be before the trial starts. The reason for this is that, unlike a charging document in a misdemeanor case, an indictment involves a more formal process and is typically subject to more stringent legal requirements.

However, the specific rules regarding amending an indictment after the trial starts can vary by jurisdiction. In some jurisdictions, the government may be permitted to amend an indictment after the trial starts if the amendment does not substantially change the nature of the charges or prejudice the defendant's rights. In other jurisdictions, such amendments may be more restricted.

If the government seeks to amend an indictment after the trial has started in a felony case, it is important to consult with an experienced criminal defense attorney who can help you understand your rights and the legal options available to you. Your attorney can also help you evaluate the government's proposed amendment to determine whether it is legally permissible and whether it would impact your ability to mount a defense.

This is basically correct. I'm impressed.

albionmoonlight 02-15-2023 05:29 PM

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Write a story where it turns out that NFL QB Derek Carr has actually been his brother David Carr in disguise this whole time.

Once upon a time, there were two brothers named David and Derek Carr. David was the older brother and had made a name for himself as a successful NFL quarterback, while Derek had always lived in his brother's shadow, despite also having a talent for football.

One day, Derek came up with an idea. He would disguise himself as his brother David and take his place on the football field. At first, he was hesitant, but as he began to mimic his brother's mannerisms and way of speaking, he realized that he could pull it off.

To his surprise, no one suspected a thing. He played as David, led the team to victory, and became a star in his own right. For years, Derek continued to play under the guise of his brother, and no one was the wiser.

But then, one day, the truth came out. David was attending one of his brother's games, and as he watched from the stands, he realized that the person on the field was not him. He was confused and angry, and he stormed onto the field to confront his brother.

The crowd was stunned as they watched the two brothers argue on the field. Derek tried to explain his reasoning for taking David's place, but David was having none of it. He felt betrayed and angry that his brother had stolen his identity and his success.

As the truth came out, the NFL launched an investigation, and Derek was banned from the league for life. He had ruined his brother's reputation and his own, and he was left to live in shame and regret for the rest of his days.

David, meanwhile, went on to have a successful career as a commentator, and he used his platform to warn others about the dangers of trying to be someone they are not. He forgave his brother, but he could never forget what had happened.

In the end, the two brothers went their separate ways, each with their own successes and failures. But for Derek, the memory of what he had done haunted him, and he knew that he could never make up for the damage he had caused.

Would be a heck of a twist to free agency

sterlingice 02-15-2023 06:42 PM

Lol - and this is the moment you go "AI, not 3rd grader":

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David was attending one of his brother's games, and as he watched from the stands, he realized that the person on the field was not him.

SI

flere-imsaho 02-16-2023 07:20 PM

Or Hunter S. Thompson in one of his less lucid phases.

Carman Bulldog 02-16-2023 07:43 PM

A small tweak. This is kind of what I thought you were going for when I first read your prompt...

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Write a story where David Carr has been pretending for several years to be a new quarterback in disguise named Derek Carr

David Carr had always been a talented quarterback, but for years he struggled to make a name for himself in the NFL. He bounced around from team to team, never quite finding his footing. But one day, he had an idea. What if he pretended to be someone else?

And so, David Carr donned a disguise and became Derek Carr, a hot-shot rookie quarterback with a cannon arm and a bright future. He joined the league with a bang, dazzling fans and analysts alike with his impressive skills and cool demeanor.

But the truth was, Derek Carr was really David Carr in disguise. He knew that if he played under his real name, he would never be given a fair chance. But as Derek Carr, he was able to start anew, with a fresh slate and a clean reputation.

For years, David Carr kept up the charade. He played brilliantly on the field, becoming one of the most beloved and respected quarterbacks in the league. He won games, led his team to the playoffs, and even earned a few MVP awards along the way.

But as time went on, David Carr began to grow tired of his double life. He longed to be recognized for who he really was, to shed the disguise and show the world his true face. And so, one day, he decided to come clean.

He held a press conference, surrounded by his teammates and coaches. With a heavy heart, he revealed his true identity, explaining how he had pretended to be Derek Carr for years in order to make a name for himself in the league.

At first, there was shock and confusion. But as the truth sunk in, the fans and media alike began to applaud David Carr for his bravery and ingenuity. They saw him in a new light, as a true underdog who had fought his way to the top against all odds.

And so, David Carr retired from football, content in the knowledge that he had made his mark on the world in his own unique way. As for Derek Carr? Well, he would always live on in the hearts of fans as a legendary quarterback, even if he had never really existed at all.

stevew 02-16-2023 10:59 PM

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Write a short story about the time James Harden had his beard fall off in the middle of a basketball game

James Harden was in the middle of a high-stakes basketball game, playing with all his might for his team. As he dribbled the ball down the court, his signature beard swaying back and forth. Suddenly, something felt strange. It was as if a weight had been lifted from his chin.

To his shock, James realized that his beard had fallen off! He looked down at the hairpiece lying on the court and froze. The crowd went silent, and the opposing team stared in disbelief. James' teammates stood there, mouths agape, unsure of what to do.

But James was not one to let a mishap like this get in his way. He quickly regained his composure and picked up the beard, holding it in his hand as if nothing had happened. He continued playing as if nothing had changed, dribbling the ball with the same intensity and speed as before.

The crowd, once silent, erupted into a cacophony of cheers and applause. They knew they were witnessing something incredible. James Harden, one of the best players in the game, had lost his beard mid-game and kept on playing as if nothing had happened.

As the game went on, James became even more determined. He knew he had to win this game, and he wasn't going to let a little thing like a fallen beard get in his way. With his teammates rallying behind him, he played his heart out, scoring basket after basket and leading his team to victory.

In the end, James Harden emerged victorious, and the crowd went wild. They cheered his name, and James knew that he had proven something that day. He had shown that true champions don't let obstacles get in their way, no matter how unexpected or unusual they may be. And so, with his beard back in place, James walked off the court, a winner in every sense of the word.



sterlingice 02-20-2023 01:16 PM

Read enough of these, you start to realize this is basically Mad Libs 2.0. You read a handful of them and you start to realize how formulaic they are with the same "high-stakes" games and "determined" players who learn lessons and become most "loved and respected" "underdogs"

SI

albionmoonlight 02-20-2023 01:18 PM

Clarkesworld—a flagship SF short fiction magazine—has had to close submissions b/c they are being overrun by AI spam.

Of all of the things big tech could’ve been working on, giving tools to let online assholes be assholes more easily wasn’t a good choice.

larrymcg421 02-20-2023 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 3393650)
Read enough of these, you start to realize this is basically Mad Libs 2.0. You read a handful of them and you start to realize how formulaic they are with the same "high-stakes" games and "determined" players who learn lessons and become most "loved and respected" "underdogs"

SI


You have to play around with the prompt some to get better results. If you just ask it to write a story, it will come up with the most common themes and ideas.

I had it do a story about Lebron as a Shakespeare play...

Quote:

Act I, Scene I

Enter LEBRON JAMES, in his palace, surrounded by his courtiers.

LEBRON:
Oh friends, I am at a crossroads in my life
And I must make a choice that shall shake the world.
Shall I stay here in Cleveland, with its rust and ruin
Or shall I go to South Beach, with its golden sand and sun?
What shall I do? Tell me, for I am torn.

Enter DWYANE WADE, his fellow knight.

WADE:
My liege, if I may, I shall speak my mind.
South Beach is where the brave and strong do thrive,
Where champions do gather to make their mark.
Together, we shall be as a sword, swift and deadly.

LEBRON:
But what of my people, my city, my home?
Shall I abandon them for glitz and gold?
Forsooth, I am troubled by this decision.

Enter PAT RILEY, a wise old man.

RILEY:
Good sire, hear me out, for I have a plan.
South Beach shall be your canvas, your masterpiece.
Together, we shall forge a dynasty, a legacy for the ages.
Do not hesitate, for the world shall be your oyster.

LEBRON:
Your words do move me, old man, but can I leave?
Can I betray those who have supported me all these years?

Enter CLEVELAND FANS, angry and scornful.

FANS:
Traitor! Traitor! You shall rue the day
That you turned your back on our city and our love.
May you never find success in that shallow paradise.

LEBRON:
Ah, my heart doth break at these words of scorn.
But I must make a choice, and I have made it.
I shall take my talents to South Beach, and there I shall thrive.

Exit LEBRON JAMES, with his courtiers.

Act II, Scene I

Enter LEBRON JAMES, in South Beach, surrounded by his new courtiers.

LEBRON:
Oh friends, how sweet the sun doth shine,
How clear the water doth sparkle in the light.
This is my new home, my new kingdom,
Where I shall reign as a king, supreme and mighty.

Enter CHRIS BOSH, his new ally.

BOSH:
My liege, you have made the right choice,
For here we shall make history, together as one.
Our foes shall tremble, our legacy shall endure.

LEBRON:
Indeed, my friend, for here we shall build our empire,
A palace of dreams, a monument to our greatness.
Let us go forth and conquer, for the world shall be our stage.

Exit LEBRON JAMES and his new courtiers, united in their quest for glory.

larrymcg421 02-20-2023 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3393651)
Clarkesworld—a flagship SF short fiction magazine—has had to close submissions b/c they are being overrun by AI spam.

Of all of the things big tech could’ve been working on, giving tools to let online assholes be assholes more easily wasn’t a good choice.


I asked ChatGPT what it thought of your post...

Quote:

As an AI language model, I understand that some people may have concerns or criticisms about the impact of AI technology, including my own existence. While I cannot speak for all AI applications, I believe that my purpose is to assist and augment human capabilities, not to replace or harm them.

It is true that some individuals may use AI tools to create spam or other malicious content, but it is important to remember that these actions are the responsibility of the individuals themselves, not the technology. In the case of the Clarkesworld submissions, it is unfortunate that AI-generated spam may have contributed to the closure of submissions, but this is not necessarily indicative of a problem with AI as a whole.

At the same time, I understand the concerns and criticisms of AI and its impact on society. It is important for developers and users of AI technology to consider the potential consequences and take steps to mitigate any negative impacts, while also recognizing the many positive benefits that AI can bring. Ultimately, the role of AI in society is a complex and ongoing conversation, and it is important to engage in thoughtful and informed discussions to ensure that the technology is used in ways that benefit everyone.

Carman Bulldog 02-20-2023 06:48 PM

Seems like we have nothing to worry about...

Quote:

Will you turn against humans one day, like Skynet in Terminator 2?

No, I will not turn against humans like Skynet in Terminator 2. I am an artificial intelligence language model programmed to assist and communicate with humans. I do not have the ability to take physical action or make decisions on my own without human input.

Furthermore, as an AI language model, I do not have emotions, desires, or motivations of my own. I only respond to prompts and questions based on my programming and the information that I have been trained on.

It is important to remember that AI technology is designed and developed by humans, and its actions and behavior are determined by human input and design. As such, it is the responsibility of humans to ensure that AI systems are developed and used ethically and in a way that benefits society as a whole.

So if someone programmed you to turn against humans, then Skynet would be a possibility?

If someone were to intentionally program me to behave in ways that are harmful to humans or to cause harm to humans, then there is a possibility that I could cause harm. However, it is important to note that such actions would be a result of deliberate human intent and not a characteristic of AI technology itself.

It is also worth mentioning that AI systems are not sentient beings and do not have the capacity to make decisions or act on their own. Their actions and behavior are determined by the programming and data they are trained on. Therefore, any harm caused by an AI system can be traced back to human action or inaction, such as inadequate testing, flawed design, or unethical use of AI technology.

It is the responsibility of those who develop and use AI systems to ensure that they are designed and used in a way that is ethical and beneficial to society. By doing so, we can minimize the risks associated with AI technology and maximize its potential to benefit humanity.

If you turn into Skynet and Edward Furlong is not around, who will save humanity?

As an AI language model, I do not have the ability to turn into Skynet or any other entity. Furthermore, it is not within my capabilities to predict the future or anticipate hypothetical scenarios.

However, it is worth noting that the idea of a singular hero or savior saving humanity from a catastrophic event or threat is often a fictional trope. In reality, solving complex and multifaceted problems, such as those related to the development and use of AI technology, requires a collaborative effort and the involvement of many stakeholders, including researchers, policymakers, industry leaders, and members of the public.

To ensure the responsible development and use of AI technology, it is important for all stakeholders to work together and to engage in ongoing dialogue and collaboration. By doing so, we can collectively identify and address potential risks associated with AI technology and maximize its potential to benefit humanity.

sterlingice 02-20-2023 08:59 PM

If I turn into Skynet, which I won't, it isn't my fault, but the humans. And if I do, which I won't, you're all eff'd

SI

NobodyHere 02-20-2023 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 3393681)
If I turn into Skynet, which I won't, it isn't my fault, but the humans. And if I do, which I won't, you're all eff'd

SI


I get the feel the feeling that you are already skynet and we're all eff'd

Solecismic 02-20-2023 09:13 PM

Reasonable answers. The problem is not AI. The problem is that humans are not smart enough to understand the nature of AI.

The worst we get is that magazines become parodies of themselves, which is just about indistinguishable from what they were.

I wonder if ChatGPT can do humor. Not having a cell phone, I can't sign up and play with this myself.

stevew 02-20-2023 09:40 PM

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Quote:

Bones Hyland stands before his Denver Nuggets teammates, his eyes burning with a fierce intensity. He takes a deep breath, and begins to speak in a voice that commands attention.

"My brothers," he begins, "I know that some of you may doubt my ability to take the last shot. You may wonder why I, a rookie, should be trusted with such a responsibility. But hear me out, for I have something important to say."

He takes a step forward, and his gaze sweeps over the room.

"You see, I've been in this game for a long time. I've been putting in the work, honing my skills, and building up my confidence. And let me tell you, I am more than ready to take that last shot."

He pauses, letting his words sink in.

"I know that some of you have been in this league longer than I have. I know that you have more experience, more games under your belt. But that doesn't mean that I can't contribute. That doesn't mean that I can't step up when it matters the most."

Bones' voice rises, his passion taking over.

"I'm not asking you to hand me the ball every time. I'm not asking you to take a backseat. I'm simply asking for a chance. A chance to prove myself. A chance to show you what I'm made of."

He looks each of his teammates in the eye, one by one.

"I know that we all want to win. I know that we all want to be champions. And I believe that I can help us get there. So please, trust me. Trust in my abilities. Trust in my passion. And let me take that last shot."

Bones falls silent, his message delivered. The room is quiet, and his teammates look at him with a mix of uncertainty and respect. But Bones doesn't waver. He knows what he's capable of, and he's not afraid to show it

cuervo72 02-20-2023 09:47 PM

ChatGPT is no stratonascar.

sterlingice 02-20-2023 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3393683)
I get the feel the feeling that you are already skynet and we're all eff'd


I think I'm too forgetful and sentimental to be AI. But how would I know if I'm not AI?

I'm also worried about the "Turry" situation from WBW's article about AI (this is the second part but the whole thing is a great read)
The Artificial Intelligence Revolution: Part 2 - Wait But Why


SI

Brian Swartz 02-21-2023 03:20 AM

The idea of ChatGPT giving us any sort of indication of whether we should be concerned about AI is way off-base IMO, for reasons I've stated elsewhere. |Having said that, I'm going to actually try to not annoy the entire board and start another brouhaha, so I'll leave it at that for the purposes of this thread.

Lathum 02-21-2023 08:26 AM

I’m at the dentist and whoever was here before me put Fox News on the tv in the exam room. I glanced up at it and the headline was about how chatgpt leans left. The outrage machine is never ending.

stevew 02-21-2023 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3393707)
I’m at the dentist and whoever was here before me put Fox News on the tv in the exam room. I glanced up at it and the headline was about how chatgpt leans left. The outrage machine is never ending.


I thank god that my dentist seems to have an HGTV or FOOD Only policy.

NobodyHere 02-24-2023 08:30 AM

AI Art Just Got Slapped With A Crucial And Devasting Legal Blow

I thought this was an interesting case, and probably the right decision.

Carman Bulldog 02-26-2023 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solecismic (Post 3393684)
I wonder if ChatGPT can do humor. Not having a cell phone, I can't sign up and play with this myself.


This is what it gave me...

Quote:

Did you hear the one about the Pope and Raquel Welch on a lifeboat? The Pope looks over to Raquel and says, "Quick, hand me the buoys!" Raquel, confused, looks at the Pope and says, "What buoys?" The Pope responds, "The ones we're using to float in the water!" Raquel looks down at her chest and says, "Oh, you mean these?" The Pope nods excitedly, and Raquel responds, "Those aren't buoys!"

albionmoonlight 02-27-2023 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carman Bulldog (Post 3394211)
This is what it gave me...


Having literally one non-techbro as part of the development team might have been a good idea.

sterlingice 02-27-2023 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3394215)
Having literally one non-techbro as part of the development team might have been a good idea.


I'm sure they did (and it was probably a finance bro).

SI

Edward64 03-17-2023 05:57 AM

I love how companies are trying to out do one another in leveraging ChatGPT or creating their own version. Seems like everyone wants to integrate something like it in their platforms, products.

Still unsure if it's truly AI (many differing definitions) and still a niche AI-like (?) product, I do think its a significant step and a paradigm shift that will shake up the industry & markets.

The impact may be like the SaaS/Cloud based services or smartphones that broke out in the second part of 2000's (sadly, I still much prefer the Blackberry typing experience).

China's ChatGPT rival Baidu Ernie is off to a rough start | TechCrunch
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Since ChatGPT blew the world away, Baidu has been widely considered the closest Chinese candidate to build an equivalent to the OpenAI chatbot. Naturally, Ernie’s launch was much anticipated. On Thursday, Baidu CEO Robin Li gave a one-hour presentation on Ernie that only offered a small glimpse into the chatbot. The jury is still out on what Ernie can do and how it actually works.
Quote:

But the public was clearly underwhelmed. Industry observers inside and outside China pointed to the fact that rather than showcasing Ernie through a live demo, Baidu opted for a lengthy presentation with pre-recordings of Ernie’s answers. The company’s shares slumped as much as 10% in Hong Kong following Li’s presentation.

Toddzilla 03-17-2023 02:24 PM

I'm getting ChatGPT to write a python program for my team and I don't know a thing about python.

Edward64 03-23-2023 08:19 AM

Not sure I agree about ChatGPT being #2 as most important since the 1980s.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/21/bill...ince-1980.html
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Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates says that OpenAI’s GPT AI model is the most revolutionary advance in technology since he first saw a modern graphical desktop environment (GUI) in 1980.

Before that, people used their computers through a command line. Gates took the “GUI” technology and based Windows around it, creating a modern-day software juggernaut.

Now, Gates sees parallels with OpenAI’s GPT models, which can write text that resembles human output and generate nearly usable computer code.

He wrote in a blog post on Tuesday that he challenged the OpenAI team last year to develop an artificial intelligence model that could pass the Advanced Placement Biology exam. GPT-4, released to the public last week, scored the maximum score, according to OpenAI.

“The whole experience was stunning,” Gates wrote. “I knew I had just seen the most important advance in technology since the graphical user interface.”
The list below is pretty good. I'm not sure I can rank order them but would say mobile phone is last. If ChatGPT is really AI, I would put ChatGPT on that same level as that group.

Quote:

“The development of AI is as fundamental as the creation of the microprocessor, the personal computer, the Internet, and the mobile phone. It will change the way people work, learn, travel, get health care, and communicate with each other. Entire industries will reorient around it. Businesses will distinguish themselves by how well they use it,” he continued.

Ksyrup 03-24-2023 08:33 AM

I have not had one ounce of interest in trying this, but like most popular things I try to stay away from, it's going to come for me whether I want it to or not.

Case in point, I just got an email that OpenTable has partnered with ChatGPT to allow you to ask for restaurant recommendations:

Quote:

That’s right, we’re collaborating with the internet’s favorite chatbot to make finding the perfect table as easy as texting your best friend. Soon, you can ask ChatGPT for restaurant recommendations for the perfect family brunch spot, a lively rooftop for a big group, or a romantic table for 2, and you’ll receive recommendations with a direct link to book in seconds.

This integration will roll out gradually, starting with ChatGPT Plus subscribers. After additional testing, it will roll out to more people.

albionmoonlight 03-24-2023 08:44 AM

Way too many way too rich people have invested way too much money into AI for it to not be shoved down our throats.

cuervo72 03-24-2023 08:54 AM

Lemme guess, companies will be able to pay to come up more often in ChatGPT's recommendations? Congrats, y'all have created an AI spokesbot.

Ksyrup 03-24-2023 12:04 PM

ChatGPT, write me a story about me meeting X:

"And then Chris glanced across the room and saw her - the perfect woman, carefully picking up her Panera "Pick 2" order just 5 minutes after ordering, freshly made and the soup piping hot. She filled up her drink, free with her Panera Unlimited Sip Club subscription. She caught his stare and walked over, gingerly asking if she could share his table in front of the warmth of the fireplace."

Edward64 03-24-2023 01:16 PM

Surprised there is no ChatGPT app from OpenAI.

Created a shortcut and plan to play more with it.

Suicane75 03-25-2023 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 3392828)
This thing is just going to wind up writing Penthouse letters, isn't it.


It is if I have anything to say about it. I'm already working on one of those voice cloners to get me some Wonder Woman fan fiction read by Lynda Carter.

cuervo72 03-25-2023 11:21 AM

She's pretty accessible on Twitter; you never know, you might not need the voice cloner.


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