Werewolf CXL - The Dark Knight Returns - GAME OVER
 

Continued from ... http://operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=81449

Gotham City is shattered. Batman swore to fight crime wherever it lay, and Gotham stood with him. It chose to stand up to the mob, to criminals, and look what that has wrought. The Mayor, shot down by mobsters. Cops shot in the street. Gotham's great hope, DA Harvey Dent, behind bars. Judges working with the mob, cops looking the other way. Worst of all, when the crazed Joker told Gotham to help him kill, they did, and one of Gotham's heroes, Lt. Gordon lies dead because of it. Wayne Manor, once a sign of the prosperity of this great city, lies in ashes and Gotham's most famous billionaire presumed dead. And Gotham's great protector, the Batman, is nowhere to be found.

The criminals, they've been hurt too. The Joker, rumored to have been brought to Gotham by the mob to deal with Batman, was too much for anyone to handle. Half of the mob lies behind bars, others dead. But with the Joker safely put away in Arkham Asylum, and Batman presumed dead, Gotham is still theirs. New bosses will be made, new bribes too. With Gotham back in the hands of the mob, it would seem that things are back to normal.


Basic Rules

• No editing of posts
• No quoting of private messages
• No discussion of the game outside of the thread
• If any player misses two sequential deadlines they will (hopefully) be replaced.
• There is no forms of resurrection, so dead players may talk amongst themselves about the game.

Voting

• In order to vote, please post your vote in bold and on a separate line.
  

  VOTE AUTUMN

• You may change your vote at any time before the deadline by posting an unvote and then a new vote, both in bold.
  

  UNVOTE AUTUMN
  VOTE ALAN T

• You may vote No Lynch, and if No Lynch gains the most votes, there will in fact be no lynch.
  

  VOTE NO LYNCH

• You may vote Nightfall. HOWEVER, once you have voted Nightfall you may no longer change your vote, unvote, or unvote Nightfall! Your vote is final. If all players vote Nightfall the day will end immediately.
  

  VOTE NIGHTFALL

• Tie votes will be resolved by a coin flip, or die roll if more than two candidates are tied.

Deadlines

• Lynch: 10 pm EST
• Night Orders: 11 pm EST
  
• No votes marked 10:01 or later will be counted. No night actions marked 11:01 or after will be accepted.
  
• Night actions may be sent in before the Lynch deadline. Conditional orders will also be accepted, within reason.

"The doctor says you've healed up enough to go home, Harvey."

"And thanks to you I'm allowed to. I don't usually get along well with defense attorneys, Mike, but you have my appreciation."

"It was simple enough. Anyone could see it was a mob job."

"Anyone but anyone that mattered."

"Are you going to come back, to the DA's office?"

"What, Gotham needs me now?"

"You know they do, Harvey. More than ever."

"They locked me away, locked me up with the very murderers I saved them from. They left me to die, and I almost did. I could have kept Gotham safe. They didn't want me."

"I know, Harvey."

"No. You don't know. You can't imagine how much this hurts, Mike, the pain of having half your flesh burning away. It still burns right now. But it's nothing, nothing compared to how they betrayed me."

"I know you're angry, Harvey, but that's why we need you. There's no one better than you. You can catch the ones responsible for this."

"Who's that, Mike? Gotham put me here. Gotham surrendered, let the mob take over. Batman, he disappeared. Why should I go back and save them?"

"We need you, Harvey, that's why."

"I don't know, Mike. I don't know .... What do you say we leave it up to chance?"

"Master Wayne, I hate to pester, but exactly how long is it you plan to stay in this cave? Don't you think it's time to make an appearance in the daylight?"

"No, Alfred. It's better they think Bruce Wayne is dead. Having that identity ... it was a mistake, a weakness my enemy exploited. Batman can't afford to have a weakness. Batman can't afford to be Bruce Wayne."

"That's perhaps the most disturbing thing you've said yet, Master Wayne. You can't live down here in the dark forever. You can't save Gotham on your own."

"You're right about that, Alfred. I learned that last time. One man, even Batman, it's not enough. I couldn't save them. I let them down. This time, I'll need help."

"That sounds quite healthy of you, Master Wayne. I must be misunderstanding you."

"There are others in Gotham, there must be, who are willing to put themselves on the line. I'll have to find them. I have the resources, the training. I can teach them."

"I have a feeling you're not talking about working with the police."

"Gordon is dead, Alfred. The mob owns half the officers. There's no one I trust there."

"And what about Harvey Dent?"

"We'll need his help. But it won't be enough."

"Very well, I can see you're quite settled on this. Shall I sweep the guano out of the guest caves, Master Wayne?"

"Hilarious as usual, Alfred. You know you can leave, I wouldn't keep you here."

"How could I ever hope to match these accommodations, sir? If there's one thing I can stand less than being trapped in this dreary cave, it's imagining you sitting in here on your own. If you'll move these batarangs off the hotplate I'll make us some tea."

"Thank you, Alfred. Don't worry, things are about to get better."

Transcript, Good Morning Gotham, October 14th, 2011
Chris Werthers, correspondent

Lynch: 10 pm EST
Night Orders: 11 pm EST
Tiebreak: Coin Flip
Role Reveal: Forensics dependent
Victory: Wolves=parity. Village=elimination of wolves.


Summary
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1 Super Villain
4 Disturbed Citizens

1 District Attorney
1 Chief Psychiatrist
2 Police Officers
1 Superhero
1 Superhero Wannabe
2 Forensics Officers
8 Citizens

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The Bad Guys

Supervillain: Two Face
Kills citizens or converts the disturbed into supervillains if he tries to kill them. Two Face cannot kill Rachel Dawes at night. If he attempts to, her role will be revealed to him but she will survive. If lynched, Two Face can choose a player to die with him.

Each night every Supervillain currently in the game has a night kill. Supervillains know each other's identities, but cannot chat.

Disturbed Citzens
They know the ID of Two Face. They do not know each other's identities, and cannot chat with anyone. Each night each Disturbed Citizen can look for Seers (Dawes or Arkham, each will show up as positive for "seer"). On night zero they will receive a random negative scan for the seer.

If targeted for a night kill by any Supervillain, will turn into a Supervillain themselves and will lose Disturbed Citizen ability. When a Disturbed Citizen becomes a Supervillain they will discover IDs of all other Supervillains and all who henceforth become supervillains.

Important Evil Rules:
1. All Disturbed Citizens know Two Face at game start.
2. When Disturbed Citizens become Supervillains they lose Disturbed Citizen abilities.
3. Each Supervillain makes their own kill. All Supervillains can kill in the night.
4. Neither Disturbed Citizens nor Supervillains may chat with each other.


The Good Guys

Interim District Attorney: Rachel Dawes
Each night chooses a player and sees if they are a supervillain or not. Gets a N0 random negative and a N1 random negative.

Chief Psychiatrist: Dr. Jeremiah Arkham
Each night chooses a player and sees if they are a Disturbed Citizen or not. Gets a N0 random negative.

Police Officers: Nicholas Gage, Mackenzie Bock
Each night choose a player to protect. The police officers cannot choose to protect themselves. They may not protect the same person consecutive nights. Upon successful protect, the police officers becomes a martyr. A martyr functions as a Bodyguard but dies in the player's place instead of preventing kill. 2 Bodyguards/Martyrs must be present if 2 or more wolves attack same target. If 1 Martyr and 1 Bodyguard protect and 2 wolves attack, then Martyr dies. If 3 wolves attack, then target dies. And so on. If a Bodyguard/Martyr protects a player who is attacked by one wolf, and a separate wolf attacks the Bodyguard/Martyr in question, both targets still die.

Superhero: Batman
If alive at end of game with one Supervillain, village wins. Also, each night picks a player. If that player is a Superhero Wannabe, that player becomes another Superhero. If there are 2 Superheroes along with 2 Supervillains alive at game end, good would win. Any Superhero will know of, but not be able to chat with successful recruits.

Superhero Wannabe: Tim Drake
Knows the ID of Batman. If chosen by the Superhero in the night, will become a Superhero.

GCPD Forensics Officers: Maggie Sawyer, David Cornwell
Passive. When both Forensics Officers are alive all roles are revealed. When the first dies, night kill roles are hidden. When both die, all role reveals on death are hidden.

Citizens
Let's keep Gotham safe!

Cast of Characters

1. Danny - Maggie Sawyer, Forensic Scientist - Killed Night 3
2. Abe Sargent - Officer Mackenzie Bock - Lynched Day 1
3. PackerFanatic
4. Sndvls - Lynched Day 5
5. Zinto
6. Hoopsguy - Tim Drake, Superhero Wannabe - Killed Night 1
7. Lathum - Lynched Day 4
8. NTNdeacon
9. CrimsonFox - John Burton, Citizen - Lynched Day 2
10. Mauboy1 - Killed Night 5
11. MrBug708
12. The Jackal - David Cornwell, Forensic Scientist - Killed Night 3
13. Dzilla77 - Lynched Day 7
14. J23 - Killed Night 6
15. Saldana
16. Tyrith
17. Chief Rum - Killed Night 5
18. Mckerney - Jonathan Crane, Disturbed Citizen - Lynched Day 3
19. Daddy Torgo - Lynched Day 6
20. Narcizo - Killed Night 4
21. Commo_soldier - Killed Night 6


THE DECEASED

HOOPSGUY ... TIM DRAKE, SUPERHERO WANNABE
DANNY ... MAGGIE SAWYER, FORENSIC SCIENTIST
THE JACKAL ... DAVID CORNWELL, FORENSIC SCIENTIST
NARCIZO ... DR. JEREMIAH ARKHAM, CHIEF PSYCHIATRIST
MAUBOY1 ... RACHEL DAWES, DISTRICT ATTORNEY
CHIEF RUM ... OFFICER NICHOLAS GAGE
J23 ... GOTHAM CITIZEN
COMMO_SOLDIER ... THE BATMAN


THE COMMITTED ...

ABE SARGENT ... OFFICER MACKENZIE BOCK
CRIMSONFOX ... JOHN BURTON, SHOESHINE BOY
MCKERNEY ... JONATHAN CRANE, DISTURBED CITIZEN
LATHUM ... GOTHAM CITIZEN
SNDVLS ... GOTHAM CITIZEN
DADDY TORGO ... EDWARD NYGMA, DISTURBED CITIZEN
DZILLA77 ... GOTHAM CITIZEN


AMONG THE LIVING ...

PACKERFANATIC ... GOTHAM CITIZEN
ZINTO ... GOTHAM CITIZEN
TYRITH ... GOTHAM CITIZEN
SALDANA ... VICTOR FRIES, SUPERVILLAIN
NTNDEACON ... PAMELA ISLEY, DISTURBED CITIZEN
MRBUG708 ... HARVEY DENT, TWO FACE, SUPERVILLAIN

Gotham is overrun by costumed criminals! The bad guys win!

in

I will reveal details later, a bit at a time, so as to not steal excitement away from Abe's game. But you can feel free to signup. I need exactly 20 people for this game, and I'd love to start as soon as possible next week.

in

I think you two are destined to do this forever.

He's the Batman to my Joker

He's the hoe to my pimp

Count me in.

in

I am in.

I'll give it a go, now that I think I know where this game is headed :)

I'll wait and see. I wasn't lying about my availability during Abe's game and my work-schedule is going to pick up even more as one of my co-workers is leaving. (still not helping me extend my contract mind).

A pimp aint nuttin widout his hoes

in

Not sure yet, I have a very busy early week next week including an interview on tuesday so hopefully I'll be even busier at the end of the week. I'll see if you can get to 20 without me first.

I am in... at least until the first night.

They are the sand beneath my toes and the food IN my mouth.

I hope I get to be the penny, all shiny and new.

er...no...wait...two face...so it's tommy lee jones.

Well, if bhlloy signs up I think we have to vote for him Day 1, right?

in

even after my last failure..

Sure

Didn't you learn from last time?

I think its funny Danny and me were the first two to sign up.

Yes lol

Wrong

I'm so in. The coins went way over my head. If I end up starting a job next week you'll just have to expect a little less from me than normal.

In, and if Danny starts posting a bunch of weird shit - DON'T LYNCH HIM!

I will be posting crazy regardless now.

Only 7 more spots folks. I will be posting the rules tomorrow.

Nice! Very excited to actually get to play in a full version of this game.

Sure

This pleases me. Welcome back, pack!

Make danny be Alyssa Milano

Ahhh! Not fair. I want to play.

And Autumn gets to be the cool CXL numeral too!

im in

My busy season at work is done - I'm game for some more WW.

Yay, Tyrith

The rules have been posted. It's quite a different game, mechanically, than the first. All rules are known to you, there is nothing hidden. But it's a different kind of ruleset than normal, so look it over carefully.

Four spots left. When we get to 20 things will rev up. If I have 20 by Sunday night, roles will go out then.

So there could be up to 5 night kills in one night?

Theoretically, yes. Of course that would assume that Two Face managed to find all four disturbed individuals before any of them were lynched. This is a ruleset that I snagged from Boardgame Geek and it's been tested and tweaked a lot of times. Looking at how they've played it, it seems that the conundrum of hinting versus getting caught hinting could be interesting.

Excellent. Glad to have you back in this one so you can build upon your previous work in Gotham.

You can chuck me in if you don't get 20 by Sunday evening.

Awesome, Narc.

Yup, I'm in.

Does this mean they can protect themselves, just not two nights in a row, or they can't protect themselves AND they cannot protect the same person two nights in a row?

I clarified the rules. The Police Officers may not protect themselves.

Gotcha. Thanks.

can they protect each other?

Yes.

not to self. cops might be cops even if it doesn't say "cop". got it.

heh interesting that ntn and I are back to back in the list. Since we were BOTH Rachel Dawes last time. Maybe both of us should be dawes again as kind of a split personalitity thing. that'd make a great batvillain :)

hmmmm so no one can PM with anyone badguys or goodguys? interesting.

eeek. I finally understand the Forensic officers. If they die we don't know if we kill badguys or not .

Then again neither do the bad guys - passive priests I believe is the technical term.

Seems like a tough game for the village but it should be interesting for those who are good at finding/sending subtle signals (ie not me).

Cool ruleset overall, a bad start would be disastrous for the village, but as long as we keep the total number of wolves in line should be ok.

Sure, I can look at and play with my own boobs.

My original plan was to make a rule set where someone played the good side of Dent as the seer, and someone played the bad side as the lone wolf. They had to flip a coin each night to see who got to act, and if one of them died, the other one did. It had some problems, but was a fun idea. Maybe something like it will work into the third part of the trilogy, if anyone survives this one ;-)

I can probably drag Narcizo and Jackal in, but still one more spot we need. Come on folks. Who's missing?

I'm already on the list, you need two more!

Is Commo too frustrated to participate again? :)

I don't know, I just messaged him. ;-)

Oh that's right, you already changed your mind. Well, we'll drum someone up.

Where's Jag got to by the way?

I'll join if you want to get roles out today and no one else wants to. I'm just hesitant because I'm not sure what my work situation will be like after Monday, but I should be able to contribute a little at least.

Never, I'm hoping to convince others I know to play. It was crazy how last game turned out though, hopefully the stuff I think I learned I actually did learn.

I didn't say this, but I enjoyed having you in the last game Commo. I think you're going to be a strong player with good activity.

You've played very well so far in my opinion - you didn't get the breaks but we all get feelings of certainty about things. Some are better at controlling them than others but I think pretty much everyone gets them to some degree. Look at Danny - he had a great game but he was certain Bug was a wolf and that certainty is infectious, particularly when the person has been right twice already.

In fact I was saying in PMs during the game that you remind me of me when I started playing. Except a whole lot more active naturally.

So we clone Jackal and we're ready to go right?

Yes, you played much better than was implied in the thread ;-)

All right, well I can add you and Narc tonight if others don't sign up. I could also wait for a Monday night startup. I'm always eager to go, but I know some people don't really get onto the site until Monday.

+100000000000
And I bestow upon you, the dancing chicken---> :funkychickendance:

All right guys, i'm going to give this 'til tomorrow. If I don't see someone signed up in the morning (and/or Narc or Commo decide they can't do it) I'll start messaging people. I'm sure we'll get some people signed up and start tomorrow night, or whenever we get the people.

Narc and Commo let me know if you want me to sign you up as definites. I don't want to end up with people fighting over spots.

ok, count me in

Despite what the rules say, I am the joker again and am invulnerable to lynch.

I can only give you one character, Lathum, sorry.

Autumn is loving the multi quote feature now.

Time to create an alternate identity name TALMUH and see if you can sneak that one past the alert moderator ...

Dumb question about rules that is already explained in rules.

Edit - Never mind, found answer later in the rules.
Extra Edit While I'm Here - getting this out of the way before the start of the game :)

Yes. And Hoops, there's a delete function.

If you still need people I'll play.

And lose posts? You can't be serious.

Sure...I'm in if need be.

Sure, but there is so little time in WW games where you can edit I figured I should take advantage of the window.


Well, perhaps Dubb is closer to the truth :p

oops

Okay, great, guys. Narc and Commo, let me know. If you both want in I'll tweak it to work at 21. If you need to stay out for work, that's fine too.

PMed. Twice. :)