The Thread of the 2009-2010 NBA Season
 

Action kicks off in about 2 weeks.

My early prediction for the most annoying video montage:
Lebron highlights fused with JayZ's "Empire State of Mind"

hahahahaha...

For the non fans-that is the Song with the Alicia Keys hook "Now you're in New York, New York, NeW York"

Kickass song even though I have a bad feeling bout this.

I played it after you said it. LOL.

I'm more excited than I usually am about the start of the season, and I'm a big NBA fan.

A lot of strong teams this year on paper in both conferences.

Ah yes, the part of the year where a Clippers fan can still have hope. I believe it was right around now this time last year that I was pointing out to stevew how much talent we had.

And I was right. We had a lot of talent. The problem was, stevew was right that they were injury prone and, well, still the Clippers, and still coached by Mike Dumbleavy. Ugh.

I think we have even more talent this year. So I am not saying a damn word.

As a Warriors fan, this season's already had a huge LOL factor. I can't wait to see what else comes about.

Big Lakers fan here hoping for the back-to-back.

Phil Jackson hasn't won a title without following up with 2 more. :) Alas, there's always a first for everything.

NBA on traveling: Two steps are better than one - ESPN

I thought this was a joke when first reading it on some lesser known nba page but apparently it´s not, freaking unbelievable ...

Next couple FIBA tournaments should be fun once they adjusted to the 2-step rule and have to unadjust on the fly. Rest assured they´ll be watched even more closely now ;)

Hoping on a good year for oden, hoping for a good rookie campaign for Curry and a ressurgence of the Suns with a fine last run for 7 seconds or less, other than that will be following the Blazers and Rockets who have lots of likeable role players likely to play some very old school ball with a likely PPG Ratio of 80 for both teams, don´t let last night fool you as it was against the Raptors.

With all the media love for the Cavs and Celtics it will be fun watching Orlando win the East again, and not so fun watching them lose to the Lakers in the finals again.

Getting really excited to see how DeMarre Carroll does at Memphis. The coaches have been really happy with his play. He's been putting up better numbers than Thabeet in less minutes.

The Simmons "kick off the NBA season" article on ESPN/Page 2 shares your sentiment. He has them in the playoffs this year and actually had nice things to say about Dunleavy (well, sort of).

Pistons will be 7th in the NBA in scoring and end up as a 7 or 8 seed, if not miss the playoffs altogether, as they feature perhaps the worst defense in Detroit sports. Think about that for a second.

How do you figure? Frankly I think we're in for a long year. We have no front court period. Gordon's going to get his 20+ a night off the bench but who else is going to score? Rip's going to have to share minutes whether he wants to or not so I would be surprised to see him score as high as he used to. I think we're lucky to be 8th in the conference. Orlando, Cleveland, Boston are the top 3 for sure - Chicago, Washington (assuming Arenas stays healthy), Atlanta I would put in front of Detroit. Then you've got Philly, Toronto, Miami and Detroit for those last two spots. I have to say if all parties are healthy I don't like Detroit's chances in that race. I put Detroit more on par with Indiana and even they might be better than the Pistons if Hibbert continues to develop.

I hope I'm wrong but I have a hard time seeing it. We traded Billups and blew up the team chemistry last year to get a bunch of cap space and then promptly blew it on a 6th man and a guy who couldn't even get significant minutes with a bad Milwaukee team and said bad Milwaukee team didn't even bother to offer him a qualifying offer so they could match an offer.

I'm going to say it right now Rip + Gordon is not going to work - somebody has to go between Rip and Tayshaun so we can get a big man. A team with Kwame Brown, Chris Wilcox and an aged Ben Wallace manning the middle isn't a playoff team.

I don't think being a 7th or 8th seed is good. I am just saying the team will probably score a lot but give up a whole lot more then it scores.

I'm with you this team is awful, but the East is still not that deep so the Pistons can sneak in to the playoffs.

Joe has done a terrible job constructing a team, but that is how it goes.

I mean, Stuckey and Gordon are going to be expected to play D together for 20 or so minutes a night.

How scary is that?

I can't wait until I get to see Shack O Neal on my favorite team

Steve Blake beats out Andre Miller for the starting PG spot in Portland. Bit of a shock, but with how much Roy handles the ball, maybe not a massive surprise. Does Miller get traded now? His contract matches up very nicely with Shane Battier...

I am really nervous about the ankle injury that has kept Derrick Rose out of the entire preseason.

So am I. He's a key player on both of my fantasy teams.

Stop bashing Joe Dumars. He has built up one hell of a team. The team in Denver.

Denver has Carmelo because Dumars drafted Darko.
Denver has Billups instead of AI last year or the garbage FA out there this year.
Denver has a major upgrade over Dhaney Jones with Afflalo.

BTW, Pacers fans, you'll despise Jones within the first two weeks. He's simply horrible. Horrible. He does good against Paul for one series and people think he's the greatest defensive stopper ever.

started a fantasy league, kind of short notice

Yahoo Fantasy Basketball - Front Office Football Central

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that the Atlanta Hawks upset somebody and make it all the way to the Eastern Conference Finals.

Joe's lost it - the Afflalo trade was stupid. I thought we got a steal when we picked him. He's going to have a long, productive career as a 4th-7th man who plays good defense and does some scoring.

The Billups trade wouldn't have been so bad if he would have a) let Iverson come here and play like Iverson wants to play b) would have taken the next step and sent Rip packing instead of giving him an extension and c) not blown all the cap money on two players who didn't even get offers from their own teams.

The Darko thing...I've said it before and I will be consistent. If I was drafting that day I would have passed on Melo too and I still don't think that was a bad move. I would have taken either Darko or Bosh. Of course knowing what we know now there's no way in hell anyone would have taken Darko there but it's hard to pass on a 7 foot 18 year old who had a ton of hype especially when you already have a championship level team and you can afford to sit on a guy for two years maybe before you really need much out of him. Of course the fact that Wade, Bosh, Melo and others were drafted behind them really makes that pick look bad but that's just how it worked out that it happened to be the biggest bust in one of the best drafts ever.

Bottom line is that Joe started reading the headlines about what a genius he was and then started outsmarting himself. Now we're an afterthought in a fairly weak conference with our future mortgaged for Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva...yeah, we're screwed.

I think Jones' reputation on D is derived from the fact that he clearly puts 100% effort on the defensive end each possession, while being pretty passive on the other end.

Indivdually he's not a particularly great defender. He did a fairly good job on Kobe in the playoffs, but he's no Battier, and is even more one-dimensional.

He looked more aggressive with the ball in the preseason, so maybe he's looking to show there's a little more to his game this season.

On the subject of the Pacers, I'm very interested to see what kind of season Hibbert has. I thought he was destined to be an immobile stiff coming out of college considering how robotic he looked even against NCAA competition, but man, he's REALLY worked on his touch and had some fantastic games in the preseason.

If he's being more aggressive, you'll hate him more. He didn't do a good job on Kobe either. Kobe destroyed him. Here are some numbers for consumption:

Last year Jones had a -9.1 Roland rating.
He had an adjusted 39% FG% on jump shots.
Opposing SG had a 58% adjusted FG% against him.
The Nuggets gave up more points per 100 possession with him on the floor than when he was off it.

Essentially, here is the deal with him:

You are dead right, you will get effort every night.
He'll blow you away with a huge dunk every now and then.
He'll fire off a cheap shot on an opposing player at times. (you be the judge on how good that is)
When he's on the court, you are playing 4-5 on the offensive end.
There are a handful of players in the league that get frustrated with his type of defense. Most of those players calm down, adjust and destroy him the rest of the game. . . but he'll get under the skin of some and they'll do some stupid things.

This is strictly my opinion:

As a 10 minute a night player on a team full of scoring options, he's good to have. As a 20 minute a night rotation player, you'd better hope everything else goes right for your team or he'll get exposed. At 4 years for 11 million dollar? I'm glad he's someone elses problem.

I got a chance to see him a couple of times this preseason. He looks very, very good. I dunno, maybe 15-8? That sound right?

No chance Hibbert does 15 and 8. I'd say 10 and between 6-8 rookie year

Didnt Jones nearly foul out in a half vs Kobe in that Western Finals?

I think it all depends on how well he manages to avoid foul trouble. If he can stay on the court, 15-8 with 2 or 3 blocks a game is certainly reachable. One of the most promising young bigs in the league IMO.

Yup. Kobe went after him and used his aggression against him. He fell for Kobe's pump fakes just about every time, which is probably the key to defending Kobe - do your best to keep your hand in his face, force him towards help defense, and don't bite on his shot fake. Courtney Lee actually did a better job than Jones IMO, especially considering he was a rookie.

Brook Lopez is twice the offensive player Hibbert is and couldn't reach those numbers with the Nets.

Shane Battier is probably the best Kobe defender in the league. And he really couldn't stop him, just make things very, very difficult. Force Kobe to his left, never bite on pumpfakes, and keep a hand on his face at all times.

Actually, Brook did get to the 8 boards and would have gotten to 14 if he'd have played more early in the season.

The question is really minutes. I think he'll average around 20 points per 48 minutes. (he actually averaged 23.5 points per 48 last year. At 30 minutes that's about 12.5 points (my projection of 20 per 48). At last year's production it's over 14.6 points per game. Provided he gets more minutes, I'm pretty comfortable with my scoring prediction.

The boards are where my question really comes in. Last year he was at 11.6 boards per 48. I think he can increase that a bit.

But again, it really comes down to minutes. He played 25 or more minutes in a game 4 times last year. He had 14 or more points in every game. 7 or more rebounds in 3 of the 4 games.

An offseason of practice and 25+ minutes consistently a night? I think I'll be closer than you think I am.

Griffin out for up to 6 weeks with stress fracture. This team is completely snake bit. Once Kaman goes down with inevitable injury it will be time to shut it down for the season and start thinking about that high draft pick again next year.

Amazing, isn't it? You couldn't make up such constant misery.

Well that sucks. :(

It was a hell of a dunk that he injured himself on:

YouTube - Blake Griffin-Block and sick Dunk

(embedding never works with this lousy WYSIWYG editor)

It is worth noting that Bill Simmons specified in his NBA preview that if Griffin were to roll around on the court clutching a broken right ankle within three weeks, we should not mock him with copies of the paragraph he wrote in which he intimated that becoming a Clipper was one of the best things that could have happened to Griffin.

Nothing, however, was mentioned about a left kneecap. Ought to be fun to see the mail, at least.

Gerald "Crash" Wallace 2.0

Clippers should be exempt from the draft and trades as it´s just not fair to the players .

Simmons full preview, not much actual information but some humourous points : Bill Simmons' NBA season preview and 33 most intriguing NBA people - ESPN

btw, has anyone seen Nowitzki´s new haircut ? :D

Just now purchased the International League Pass , so i´m good to go for the start of the season. Can´t watch a ton live with the time difference and having to work, so that replay option is a nice option. Just have to keep clear off of sport pages during the day and watch after work.

Man. God hates the Clippers.

I'm surprised nobody else commented on this story. I'm sure it's not unique. As your typical average middle class guy, comments like this make me absolutely hate professional athletes -

"Walker’s mother, Diane, said her son does not have a gambling problem. She added that “he doesn’t party any more than the next person’’ and “what you do with your life is your business.’’

“Antoine doesn’t owe anybody any explanation,’’ said Diane Walker. “He’s not out here hurting anybody. He’s trying to live his life peacefully. That’s all he’s doing . . . My son is young. Why can’t he just enjoy life, go where he wants to go?’’


AND...

"When asked about her son’s recent, well-documented financial and legal problems, Diane Walker stood stoically outside her front door. She made a sweeping gesture toward the mansion, moving her hand past a giant brick “W’’ embedded in the driveway.

“Antoine is doing great,’’ said Diane. “I have my home. He has his home. If he’s doing so bad, then how could we still be here?’’


What a POS. What a slap in the face to anyone who works for a living and struggles to do the right thing and pay their bills month to month.

On the other hand, I would put dollars to donuts that Walker was taken advantage of by a lot of people. The book on him (in Boston at least) has always been that he's a big hearted guy but not too bright. Sad to say I wasn't too surprised to read the article.

Of course, I don't mean that to excuse running up debts you can't pay at all. Just makes it kind of sad, to me.

poor toine. he never should have left boston...we would have taken care of him.

Oh I agree with you. My anger surprisingly enough isn't towards Walker, but the people who took advantage of him, namely his Mom.

Do you think his Mom told him "Hey, that's ok, I think I'll be alright with 5 bathrooms instead of 10"? Of course not.

said in the story that he authorized 5 people to make charges on his credit card and it looks like most of the charges came from one of those people - so there's definately some anger to be directed towards that person too (whether it was his mom or his best friend or what)

there's definately a great business opportunity here though to be like....financial advisor for professional athletes. and not to sponge money off them and embezzle it or anything, but to teach them and advise them on how to live responsibly and make sure this type of thing doesn't happen to them

Geez bad day for Celtics fans. First, Rondo turns down the Celtics last offer and he and his agent announced he will be going to at least restricted FA. Secondly, Big Baby broke his thumb in a fight with an ole LSU teammate. so much for saving Garnett for the playoffs.

bah! bad rondo!!! bad bad rondo!!


Hmm...I might have to say I agree with the C's on this one. I'm not sure that Rondo is one of the Top 5 PG's in the league BY HIMSELF. With the supporting cast he has around him he has been great, and he is a phenomenal lil player, but he still hasn't shown a consistent midrange jumpshot and a lot of his baskets are "easy" due to defenses overplaying the other guys.

That being said though - I love the guy and I want him to stay.

ooof - so much for Blake Griffin eh?

Yeah that could be said about a lot of players. Ainge doesn't have the luxury of pulling a Belicheck and let an Allstar caliber player walk. the NBA is not the NFL the NBA. I mean Rondo is atop7-8 not 5 PG But do we wnat to see next season the Lester Hudson era at PG starting?:eek:

Or do you want to see a team with a near-max PG who can't shoot, a decrepit KG, and spare parts?

Rondo would probably fetch a nice package of picks, players, and exemptions that could be used to improve the team.

yeah. until rondo has a consistent jumper he's not a top 5 pg - i can't say i disagree with ainge there

It will be an interseting rebuild v. reload discussion for the Celtics in the off-season.

I dunno...Pierce is okay still...Ray Allen claims to feel like he's 24 again...reload may be the choice.

Meh, the C's are stupid if they let Rondo go. Yeah he's got some holes in his game, but he improved this past season and he's young. He can still improve more. I can't believe they'd consider letting a young PG who is as good as Rondo go.

I'll certainly be pissed if they let him go and have to watch the Cavs pwn us every night as Rondo dishes it to LeBron.

Lebron won't be in Cleveburg at that point. :D

It's definitely risky. If Rondo is Andre Miller 2.0, I'll be happy to see the Cavs give him a near-max contract. There's a lot of risk both ways. Let's see how he does this year.

I think the Celtics would be damn fools to let Rondo go. I don't really understand why they bashed him this offseason, either. The way he played in the playoffs last year was insane. The defensive metrics show him to be one of the top defensive PGs in the game already. I have no doubt his offensive game will continue to improve. I have no doubt that he'll be a top 5 PG in a couple years. Which 5 PGs will be better than him?

Rondo is merely going to be a restricter FA next summer. And they will have the ability to match a max offer if he gets one. No point in maxing him at this point IMO. He's a 10M player and not a 15M one. You can get a nice piece with 5M in an offsesson generally. A 6-7 man type

+1

You have to have two stars or Lebron to get to the finals. Rondo, Perkins and a bunch of old guys makes you the Indiana Pacers of the past decade.

Rondo is definitely not a max player. A max player should be the best player on your team these days, especially with frontoffices trying to be a little more careful with their coin. Rondo is a very good PG if you've got guys around him, but he's not someone you build a team around.

I agree with the general premise that the FO's public comments make no sense unless Rondo is a big chemistry problem behind the scenes, but I'll take a shot.

Chris Paul
Deron Williams
Derrick Rose
Dwyane Wade
Brandon Roy?
Devin Harris?
Russell Westbrook?
Brandon Jennings (just kidding)

Players who have the main attribute of "speed" generally age poorly.

Paul, Williams, Rose were the three that I could immediately think of. Wade and Roy are kind of hybrid PG/SG, aren't they? They don't necessarily play PG, but they have the ball in their hands like a PG. Harris is a far better scorer, don't know how much of a distributor/defensive presence he'll end up being. I love Westbrook, but he shoots even worse than Rondo does. He'll put up some numbers on that team, though. Could be in the discussion.

Golden State btw will indeed start both Ellis and Curry to start the season. Nelly-ball, coming to a city near you :popcorn:


Up until yesterday Magette was slotted into the starting PF spot, but now it apears he´ll start Turiaf.

Over/Under on different starting lineups for Golden State this year ? 10 ?


come on, he´s 23, not 30.

Would definitely slot him at 8 rather than 10 mio a year, but loose him over that difference ? Wouldn´t be a good idea. IMO Boston will have more of a shot at sucess Post-Big3 by getting him some running mates that can stroke it rather than hope for that superstar swingman or Big Guy to come along that would enable you to get by with a mediocre PG instead.

I'm probably giving Rondo too much credit based on his playoff performance last year, but I just feel I'd be willing to pay a little more at the PG spot than any other position. Losing a 23 year old PG that has improved every season and nearly averaged a triple double in the playoffs would be devastating. How would they replace that?

Over. Definitely the over.

Hopefully Curry remembers how to shoot!

I'd like to see this Golden State roster with a proper coach to be honest. It should be Ellis-Curry-Maggette-Randolph-Biedrins out there in the starting 5 IMO, maybe moving Randolph to the 3 with Turiaf starting at 4 and Maggette coming off the bench.

Are we just randomly assuming that Rondo won't get any better, even though he has improved every year he's been in the league? Furthermore, the question isn't whether Rondo is the best PG in the league, but whether or not you're willing to take the chance on letting him go and start over with an unknown quantity at PG.

You've got a 23 year old PG who even his detractors admit is ALREADY among the top 8 at his position, who just had a great postseason, and Celtics fans are ready to let him go. I just don't understand that at all.

I'd pay a PF or C more than I'd pay a PG. PG is a very important position of course, but I think it's much easier to acquire one in the draft than it is a frontcourt guy.

Center I'll give you, but I disagree on PF. For instance, I think the Aldridge deal was insane. He's not a max guy.

The question is more: are you willing to tie up your cap space on this guy, especially when the salary cap may fall? Right now, I don't know that I would do that with Rondo.


I think you want to see a season-long great performance from him before you lock him up long-term with max money. Paying guys based on one postseason (though of course he's certainly had his moments before then) is probably not the wisest move.

I definitely agree on Aldridge - not a max player. Doesn't rebound nearly well enough, and isn't aggressive enough. But how many great PFs are there in the league worth max money? Not all that many. They are hard to find.

I don't see how Ellis and Curry are going to play together. Certain teams, sure, they could make it work. But day in and day out? I know the Warriors don't care about defense, but that's ridiculous even for them. I'd prefer Ellis/Azubuike/Jackson/Randolph/Biedrins, with a second unit of Curry/Morrow/Maggette/Turiaf/Moore until Wright comes back. Then Wright to PF and Turiaf to C.

But none of this matters as long as Nelson is coach/de facto GM and Cohan/Rowell are in charge.

Regarding Rondo, this season is going to either make him some serious money, or he's going to settle in at about what the Celtics offer was.

yeah, that´s a big issue. Although i just can´t imagine he will continue shooting this poorly once he gets into a rythm (although, this being a Nellie-coached team and all, that may never happen ...). I mean, he looked pretty damn good in every other aspect than the one that people assumed would translate the easiest.

The thing with that lineup : No one can shoot the long ball other than Curry who is supposed to create (he is the PG from how things are shaping up and will call the shots when playing together, not Ellis).

Also, with Randolph at the 3 you´d have 2 huge mismatch-traps on your end.

Plus : If you want even a small shot at doing sth this year (playoffs) than you have to start Jackson and hope to win him over, when motivated he is the keyplayer as he´s balancing everything out.

For those of you in or around NBA cities, I strongly urge you to go to a Warriors game when they're in town and watch Anthony Randolph. It's amazing. He'll flash all the pieces of a superstar, only in between he'll make some of the most boneheaded plays you can imagine. If he EVER puts it all together...oh man. He's something.

I think this is right. I think they've been fairly consistent in saying that they want to see sustained greatness from him, and that's what this season is about.

C'mon Lebron. Bring that ring home this season!

I would love nothing more than Rondo earning the big contract he wants.

Has there ever been such a, well, "strange" Starter/Backup Combination at Center for a team ? 2 Big Men replacing each other that are this clearly Cs (and Cs only) and can actually play and had a great career repectively (different level of course, but even Z was an Allstar after all) but have very defined weaknesses in terms of mobility at their age.
Seems really strange to have Shaq go out and replace him with Ilgauskas.

This will get exposed by quite a few teams if they stick with that clear-cut rotation at Center (and not shift Varejao over there at times, but then wh´s playing PF other than Hickson ?).

With neither being a good (or even decent) help defender at this stage you can´t even afford to take Varejao out of the game for more than 2,3 minutes at a time, he´ll play a ton of minutes this year.

There is going to be a lot of money available next summer--and not everyone's going to get LeBron or Wade or Bosh.

Which Celtics fans are ready to let him go? You make it sound like we/they're eager to see him gone when I think the current mood is wait and see, which given the uncertainties both of whether he keeps improving and the future NBA salary structure, is quite warranted.He's a restricted FA after this season. Prove you deserve big money, either the Celtics will offer it, match whichever team does offer it or sign and trade him for significant pieces. This current season is the most important one to try and win a title with Garnett/Allen/Pierce only having 0-3? years left at a high level, so why bother signing him when it only risks his motivation disappearing?

Good win for the Celtics tonight. Cavs display the ability to get no scoring out of positions 2-10 in the rotation, including virtually nothing off the bench. Hopefully this will be corrected.

I am just saying...if it was my guy, I wouldn't just assume that he will be coming back even if he plays well and earns it. That's an awful lot of money for Celtics management to pay out when they're already paying boatloads to their big three.

I would also say, given how even some midlevel guys have gotten surprising deals when money was in play, that Rondo doesn't even need to play like a complete All Star to attract some serious top dollar offers from some teams.

Kind of a weird game tonight. Cleveland dominates out of the gate, we dominate a 15 minute period around the half and it just settles in. Even with Cleveland making a late run it never felt in much danger. Our bench was clearly vastly superior to theirs tonight, and it was the difference in the game.

Yeah, it does run the risk of some team offering near max money when he deserves 2-3m/y less, but if that's his asking price now what's the risk?

I'm definitely not happy the owners are apparently hurting for cash (which is allegedly why they're going after Big Baby for money), but they certainly won't be the last we hear of this season. Rondo's extension wouldn't kick in until 2011-12, and Allen will probably be gone (or at a much lower number than 19) by then, with Garnett drastically reduced from 21 after 2011-12. Since they're not Jeremy Jacobs, they would almost certainly bite the bullet for that 1 year overlap if it came to it. Scal and Tony Allen are also on the last years of their deals, which is 6m that could be replaced with minsal players for next year.

Yeah never happen nobody is going to give us shit for him now that they know he is heading FA.

Agent Zero looked really good tonight.

Bynum was also great.

Nah, I mean he'll be restricted. Someone signs him to an offer sheet, and we match and trade.

If the Wiz keep this up, I might actually watch some regular season NBA this year.

I would love to see the Wizards with EVERYONE healthy. They are easily a playoff team in the East if they are healthy

Chris Paul - of course
Deron Williams - yes
Derrick Rose - probably
Dwyane Wade - not a PG
Brandon Roy? - not even close to a PG
Devin Harris? - maybe?
Russell Westbrook? - what does he do better than Rondo?
Brandon Jennings - AI without the desire to win

I think the Celtics proved that the Cavs haven't improved one bit since last season. The lack of athletic big men does not allow them to defend the high pick and roll and they still don't have a conistent 2nd offensive option - its Lebron or bust. Mo Williams isn't that guy and Shaq can't be that guy anymore - notice how Boston didn't resort to hack-a-Shaq last night. They didn't have to. Perkins kept him away from dunk range and that's all they need to do to defend him now.

LeBron is wasting his time in Cleveland - how much better off could he be in New Jersey next year? First he stays in the weaker conference so his chances to go to the Finals stay higher but more importantly a lineup of Harris (emerging PG who can consistently score), Lee (could spot up all day for three with Harris, LeBron and Lopez in the lineup plus a very good defender), LeBron, Yi (wild card but not bad if he's your weakest starter) and Brook Lopez (already one of the better centers in the East). Plus you would have Terrence Williams, CDR and whoever their lottery pick is in the next draft and probably still cap room to sign someone else decent. They've got 10 guys committed to only about 18 million next season and that includes Harris, Lee, Yi, Lopez, CDR and Williams - LeBron gets his 15 or whatever plus the 2-3m for their lotto pick - that's only 35 million in salary. That alone puts him better off than he is now and there's room to sign a big-time four man if they want to. How sick would it be if Bosh signed too? If the cap drops to say 50m that would put them right there.

It's a bunch of what-ifs but surely there are going to be legit options out there for LeBron and he needs to look at them because the Cavs don't know WTF they are doing.

Totally agree - of course Jamison is already injured.

I just looked it up, and the last time Arenas, Butler, and Jamison were all on the floor together was back in '07. Wow.

Just watched the Cavs-Celtics game and while the Celtics really looked like a better team, it´s still allways a sight to see James play. Incredible athlete, just unreal at times.

Here his 2 Fastbreak-blocks on Rondo and Allen