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Werewolf XCVIII - 24 Day Game Over - Post 2899
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tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick KA-BOOM! The next game of werewolf will be based upon the FOX show "24". Information on this show can be found on many different places on the Internet, but my co-moderator Barkeep49 and I have relied mainly on Wikipedia. The game is targeted to start on Monday, July 6th with a Night 0. Day 1 will begin at 9PM CST on Monday night. And now, the rules .... Source - this game is based upon the FOX TV show "24". All content is derived from personal experience watching this show, as well as research at Wikipedia.org and 24.wikia.com. This is not based off any one particular season. Instead, characters from each of hte eight seasons are represented. There is a smidge of creative writing that is solely from the collective imagination of Barkeep49 and Hoopsguy. Background: The following events take place at 5AM. The Department of Homeland Security has raised the National Threat Advisory to "Orange". But inside the offices of the Counter Terrorist Unit (CTU) the concern is even more grave. Rumors are flying of an imminent attack on US soil from an as yet unidentified group known only as "The Conspiracy". All levels of government are focused on learning more about this threat as quickly as possible. Breakdown: Players: 25 (not a fixed #) Evil/Werewolves: Conspiracy Good/Villagers: Government Undetermined: only the truly paranoid thinks anyone fits in this category Win Conditions: Conspiracy: achieve a 1:1 ratio with the Government Government: eliminate all members of the Conspiracy Undetermined: does anyone actually believe that these people exist? Roles: Each character is assigned the name of a character from the television show. All characters have unique abilities. The faction of the players, with the exception of Jack Bauer, is not predicated on the actions on the television show. However, it is logical to assume that the player abilities will be at least loosely associated with the capabilities demonstrated on the television show. As applied to werewolf, of course. The game begins with one public role - Jack Bauer, CTU agent extraordinaire, is loyal to the Government. All other players have private roles. It is the discretion of the players, both individually and collectively, to share any information about their role. The moderators have strived to have an appropriate risk/reward system in place for such conversations. On that note, the Conspiracy will know at least two characters that are not in the game in order to assist with fake reveals. The moderators would encourage all players to play as fast and loose with their roles as possible, in order to provide us with the most amusement. Deadlines: In a nutshell, there are not set deadlines. Instead, the deadlines will be fluid and predicated on player actions. There is not a day/night cycle, but there is a lynch that the moderators will use to mark "days" in terms of the thread title. Lynching can occur at any time in this game. For a lynch to occur the leading vote getter must have a certain % of the total player votes. The farther away from the last lynch it has been the lower the percentage that is required. It is unknown what % is needed at what time except that between 23 hours and 23 hours 59 minutes 59 seconds since the last lynch 40% of votes must be on the leading candidate in order for a lynch to occur. As soon as the required % is reached lynching will occur instantly, rendering invalid any votes cast after that one. Votes are cast in traditional werewolf fashion. Votes should be in bold. If there is also discussion in the voting post then the vote should be at the very bottom of the post. Unvotes are allowed and must follow the same convention - bold and at bottom of post. Player actions are predicated by the passing of time, not days in the game. For example, a player may be able to use a power every 36 hours. This information will be included in each of the role PMs sent at the beginning of the game. The contents of all PMs, including the starting PMs, may be discussed within the thread if the player sees an advantage in doing so. The order of actions will be driven by the order that actions are submitted. All actions must be submitted by PM to both moderators. We can not accept actions via e-mail or IM since we are relying on the time maintained by OperationSports (when PM arrives at Inbox) to determine the order of actions. Additional Notes: all characters begin the game with the ability to sent up to four PMs per day to anyone in the game. This is in addition to any role-specific PM abilities (Conspiracy members can PM each other freely, for example). The moderators must be included on all PMs. Players are on the honor system to not send PMs above and beyond the set limit. Please do not forward the initial role PMs when exchanging PMs with other players. The moderators will do their best to have at least one moderator around to process actions in a timely manner and will inform players if at least one moderator won't be around for an extended time. As a rule there will be no moderators present from approximately 2 AM - 6 AM CDT. Any actions or votes will be processed chronologically even if no moderator is present. Due to the unusual nature of the game no actions or votes will be accepted and all powers "paused" between 12 AM Saturday (aka Friday night) and 6 AM Monday. |
Sign-up list:
1. Danny - Killed Day 4 Chloe O'Brien (Government) 2. Tyrith - Killed Day 2 Aaron Pierce (Government) 3. TheJackal - George Mason 4. JAG - Killed Day 2 Habib Marwan (Government) 5. PackerFanatic (replaced by Claphamsa Day 1) - Lynched Day 2 Edgar Stiles (Government) 6. Passacaglia - Lynched Day 4 Jonas Hodges (Conspiracy) 7. Autumn - Lynched Day 5 Nina Myers (Conspiracy) 8. Schmidty - Audrey Raines 9. Chief Rum - Killed Day 3 Kim Bauer (Conspiracy) 10. PurdueBrad - Killed Day 7 Sherry Palmer (Neutral) 11. KWhit - Lynched Day 1 Michelle Dressler (Government) 12. BrianD - Morris O'Brian 13. nfg22 - Killed Day 5 President Suvarov (Government) 14. ISiddiqui - Killed Day 8 Victor Drazen (Conspiracy) 15. DaddyTorgo - CTU Special Agent Jack Bauer 16. ntndeacon - Chase Edmunds 17. Saldana - Ryan Chapelle 18. Alan T - killed Day 3 Charles Logan (Government) 19. Kingfc22 - Larry Moss 20. Thomkal - Lynched Day 6 Graem Bauer (Conspiracy) 21. Telle - Lynched Day 3 Janis Gold (Government) 22. path12 - David Palmer 23. henry296 - Renee Walker 24. eaglefan - Tony Almeida Alternate: 1. Lerriuqs (available after 7/11) 2. JEHeinz Banned: 1. Plutonium |
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And final reserved post.
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I am in like a thin Laura Flynn
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Aww, I'm not first in anymore.
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Is who is what character made public? In the Marvel game we knew who each character just not powers and such
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I'm guessing no since in that game we all had separate accounts, so it didn't matter that we knew who the characters were. |
Danny - nope, there is no start of the game match like "Danny = David Palmer". There may be reasons to disclose that info, but there may be reasons to keep it to yourself.
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It still mattered in that game as the wolves specifically targeted players who were likely to have telepathic based powers. Of course, in that game it would have been much less fun if we didn't know as that would have taken away the role play factor. |
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Right. Man, that was a fun game. I've forgotten who I possessed as of now, but I'm sure they haven't. ;) |
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Yeah, probably my favorite game outside of you possessing me. And no I have not and will not forget. I'm not sure I ever did get my vengeance. Perhaps in this game. |
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Which one were you? |
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Nick Fury |
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Right. Nothing personal. :D |
I'll give it a shot.
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I love 24. And Jackal should be our resident Elisha Cuthbert poster ;)
I am in. |
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Well I mean now it's going to have to happen. |
Cuthbert is going to end up a wolf and betraying her father.
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She already betrayed us all:
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Wow, she doesn't look hot there and Sean Avery? Ugg
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I'm sure Tyrith will have thoughts on that pic.
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I promise, that's the last pic I'll post of her where she doesn't look great. But Sean Avery doesn't deserve her at her hottest, and it kind of makes me feel better to see that. |
We all make mistakes; she redeemed herself by dating Phaneuf shortly after. But hopefully she's single by now.
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With how hot girls like to date hockey players you'd think that the NHL could find some marketing in that.
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I had to edit that one, I mistyped the whole thing horribly :)
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So much truth right there. |
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Actually, being possessed was really fun for me -- except for when it came down to actually trying to convince people I had been possessed. That still burns me. But my early role-playing the Scarlet Witch, and trying to figure out what her character was supposed to be like, was also fun. The time when I guaranteed our success on some colossal failure of a mission was good times. |
Oh, and in.
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I don't think I can resist this game, I love ones with all the roles, Hoops. I'm a little worried as the one thing that gave me an ulcer about the Marvel game was the real time actions, coming in five minutes after Hulk had tried to smash me, for instance. I'm a little afraid it will give me conniptions, but if the game is based on it rather than it just being a freak thing maybe I'll be all right.
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Your situation was a bit different since you still was able to post and play, plus it was one day, not four :) |
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As the rules are posted, I think it will be clear that the real-time element is core to this game where it was an oddity in the Marvel games. Also, if someone is uncomfortable with the rules as they are posted just let me know and I can remove names from the list. I hope that people will be excited about the game, but if the game does not look like it suits them then let me know. |
I will play if you'll have me.
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Sean Avery got Brett Hull fired, so I'd almost say he was a good thing for the Stars.
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I am in please.
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With the amount of money they had to pay? No. |
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Possessing you was fun because we could actually communicate. I definitely felt bad possessing the other two - it was Danny/Nick Fury and.. who? The first one was the toughest to pick, that was definitely gonna make someone pissed. |
Ugh. Please, no one bring up possession.....
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I am definitely in, but may be in and out a lot on day 1 and 2 as we'll be driving back to Chicago. But I would like to play if that isn't a problem.
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Yeah, but it did get confusing. I was all, "wait, is that new PM from me to you, or from you to me?" And I didn't want to read it, in case it was from me to you, and I was marking it read when you hadn't seen it yet. |
What the heck, I'll throw my hat into the ring.
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I'd sign up but I'm busy scheming my way to the top in youth football. Camp is just two weeks away.
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I imagine that you would make a fine field agent if the youths could spare you. |
Wish I could but I'm out of town all next week...
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Bummer. If there was an interest in coming in as a replacement player upon your return I would love to slot you for that. For whatever reason, I find that my games usually need one before all is said and done. |
I will take Lerriuqs and Poli's spot in addition to mine.
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I probably could - I'm not back till after the 11th. |
I'll list you as an alternate, with that date in mind.
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I really do need more than one spot. With Poli not playing it is going to be harder to meet my post quota for this game.
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Danny, your 2nd role is "plutonium". Unfortunately, it is a non-posting role and it does not receive any PMs from the moderator. Not even a starting PM.
VOTE PLUTONIUM |
VOTE PLUTONIUM VOTE NIGHTFALL |
This game is pretty easy so far.
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VOTE PLUTONIUM
Just in case this counts. |
Vote Damn moderation queue for new registration. Plutonium will have something to say about this soon!
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Hmm, I've seen who is the newest member at FOFC and I expect he is headed this way.
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Just in case it wasn't clear, since there are two GMs this game, hoops and I decided that we would be eligible to vote as well.
Vote plutonium |
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I take some responsibility for the latter (game environments that foster high posting) but I really do try to accelerate the deaths enough so that the games don't run over two weeks. Heck, I don't want to moderate for that long!
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Had a very, very tough work day yesterday that prevented finishing up the rules. I'm looking to get the final version posted this evening at some point.
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VOTE HOOPSGUY
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Poli, you may just end up with a worse role than Danny's secondary if you continue down this road.
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Vote Barkeep?
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I think that is a better play, but the other mod may disagree.
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You might want to rethink that as a better play. If BK gets voted out you have to do all the work yourself. |
ok I am in
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That is kind of an interesting point. The workload for this one is going to be very different than the Marvel games. Less math, less judgement calls, but the sheer coverage requirements for the mods in this game are going to be very high. |
Expect the rules to be up shortly.
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Trouble = just asking for unexpected judgment calls to emerge?
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Yup.
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Eh - no "create a power" = not as many judgment calls. That was a crazy amount of work. Fun to try, fit the theme, but I'm not going to return to that mechanic anytime real soon.
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And rules are now in place. See Post #1.
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Sweet, game looks like a lot of fun! I hope we get the 25 players. |
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What?? But what about Doombots!!! |
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This sounds especially cool |
Wow, I really like the rule set. This should be a lot of fun.
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I would be stoked to play a game run by another moderator with this option :p |
There was math in the marvel game? I thought it was all just guesstimating :p
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Only when the math was too hard.
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Shouldnt the max number of players be 24?
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Technically, there is not a maximum number of players. But BK and I created 31 roles initially and the Conspirators are going to know about two that are not in the game. So we could potentially support 29 players with what we've put together up to this point. I would be pretty surprised if we have enough interest to fill 29 spots between now and Monday, however.
Oh, wait - you were just making a funny there. Right? Oops. |
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No kidding, days 2-5 in that game we probably spent 90 minutes a day each adding and readding numbers to make sure we had it straight. Maybe more. |
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I made it all the way to post 76 and now he wants me to go back to post 1? vote hoops :D |
I'm going to have to relinquish my spot. After looking over the rules there is no way I will be able to find enough time, especially with no set deadlines.
It looks like it should be a fun game though. Good luck to all. |
Honor system? Speak English, please.
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Just speaking towards this concern - and not to the availability of EagleFan - I do not think that the time commitment needs to be immense due to the real-time nature. If your character has an action, it can be submitted whenever you are online. And you should see the results immediately, rather than having to check back in later after the standard day/night deadline. And then you can take your action again when it becomes available once more, after whatever time allotment is defined in the character PM. If you have a vote to make, you don't have to try and get it in before a deadline. Make it when you are in the thread, when you are caught up on the reading, etc. Now, is it really this simple? Well, my answer is that it can be. If someone has a lot of time they might find some greater advantages to the real-time element but I don't want to necessarily spell out all my thoughts on how this could play out before the game gets started. Bottom line - I think that the lack of standard day/night deadlines could end up being more friendly to players with limited time than the rules in a conventional game. Similarly, I think these rules are likely to be more friendly to someone playing from a non EST/CST timezone. I would be interested in hearing thoughts of others on this. |
I'm still thinking on this. I may just be out of town too much to play
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when you explained it to me this way the other day it eased some of my fears about it, so hopefully it does the same for others. |
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To make sure we had what straight? Didn't we have a problem of not knowing anything about what our goals were, so we were just trying to guess at what a good amount was? Maybe I should re-read it, but it might enrage me too much. |
It was to make sure that Tyrith and I had calculated all the factors correctly in terms of attacks, defenses, and other variables that came into the "effective damage" which determined kills.
This game - with no Health, Energy, defensive powers, and variable attacks - is going to be much more standard werewolf than Marvel. |
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Oh right, Tyrith was a mod -- I was thinking of it from a player's perspective. |
i'm in.
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Obligatory daily post.
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So when are you going to break down and join the game? Surely your team wants you to serve your country in some capacity? |
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Oh, I think it does. |
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I think I will be attending a different youth football camp held by former Ram and current HS head coach Mike Jones next week.
I will be managing a dynasty thread again this season. |
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Look at the roots, not the jugs. Definitely not a natural blond. Not that I care, since I'm a redhead guy. |
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