Survivor Gabon premieres... when?
 

I could have sworn I heard Survivor Gabon started tonight (Sept 18), but when I just went and looked online, the listings show it premiering next week instead. Can anyone confirm whether it was delayed or perhaps my original intel was bad.:confused:

bad original intel i think...it is in the DTV program guide for next week, 2 hour time slot.

Tonight is a preview, they pushed back the premiere to next week for unknown reasons

Thanks for the quick replies!

Oh great, my TV will probably be packed up in teh moving van by then. You can watch the shows online though after, right?

Yeah, just be careful, because I know when I went to watch an episode online last year, they already had the survivor who was eliminated grayed out.

We watched the TV Guide preview and Probst is an idiot. He showed the tribal council set and said, "This is a place where no survivor wants to come to a lot." Bullshit! The winner will go there at least six times. If a survivor only goes there once, it means that they got booted.

He said something else that was idiotic but I can't remember what. He also cast the vibe that he was full of himself.

Are you serious? You are gettng on him about the not come here a lot statement. No contestantwants to be there a lot. The first half of the series they want to avoid it as best they can.

Of course they go there at least 6 times, that doesn't mean they want to come there 12 times.

Yeah - feels like RA is fishing for criticism there.

Maybe, but the guy just didn't strike me as intelligent as he does on the show. Perhaps that's because they edit him to look better.

First time that's ever happened on TV.... ;)

:eek: You mean Ryan Seacrest isn't that cool???

Oh, I remember the other thing Probst said: "I don't know how to pronounce Gabon so I use a French pronunciation and add the 'n'".

As a host, shouldn't you know how to pronounce the names of the area you're in? That's soooooo Regis.

Looking forward to the new season! And Jeff Probst is an awesome host. I love when he yells at quitters. :)

Just what we needed, another completely inept tribe vs. a dominating one. Here's a great idea, let's vote out the young chick who was 3rd up the hill over the 70 year old woman who collects a social security check every week. The physics guy is old too, but he's awesome and very smart. The other old guy in the weak tribe has the right idea with Operation watch everyone else crash and burn. Looks like it'll be a great season.

An unusually high number of Survivor seasons seem to begin with a hot chick getting voted off first. I am displeased with this trend. This tribe is horrendously bad, but time will tell if they will even get the chance to Ulong themselves (probably will be a bailout tribal switch before that can happen).

I'm glad he does as well and I liked the fact that he prodded around the Fang tribe last night and made them uncomfortable.

The part that grates on me is his innocent little comment "All I did was ask a simple question." He comes across as being so smarmy.

Anyhow, they had some good challenges last night and the Exile Island is a great twist this season. The hot girl was right when they started picking teams. I was thinking WTF???

Oh, and I know to a certain extent they were picking teams based on "who I'd get along with" but winning challenges (like winning anything) is a great help to getting along with other people.

just watched the episode.

I think Probst hated Jillian and I dont blame him, WTF was she thinking the way she picked that team?

To be fair she just picked one person on the team. Unfortunately it got the ball rolling downhill.



I can't believe they were worried about that guy getting the hidden idol already. I think they need to be worried about even making it to the merge at this point.

I really think the Olympian chick is sandbagging it. On that first challenge she was hiding her natural ability.

I don't think that's the case. She was wearing a dress and her shoes weighed ten pounds so she had a good excuse for being the last one up the hill.

Perhaps her bigger mistake was her pick for a tribe member. She picked another worthless old woman with the 2nd pick! Susie should have been the last pick, not the 2nd. The other tribe was much smarter with their picks. It's too bad Michelle was voted out the 1st week. Her relationship with Ken had the potential to be as hilarious as that fat mexican guy declaring his love for a girl he had never talked to.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I don't think anything will ever top that, but horny small awkward gamer guy trying to score with hot snarky chick is guaranteed comedy. All we got to see is stage 1, i.e. wildly misinterpreting somewhat pleasant conversation as an invitation to hump. Sadly, this was cut off prematurely before it could get to the extremely needy/stalker stage. Stupid tribe.

Nobody wants to talk about Michelle being the first girl in Survivor history to have her crotch blurred while still clothed?

How bad must that camel toe have been?

That's awesome. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

-Cork

i thought that was hilarious...either that or she has some nasty oversize bush that was showing through her white bikini bottoms.


that whole tribe sucks...i cant believe how incredibly bad they picked

i love the whole charlie and marcus thing...the way they keep pushing their scenes make me wonder if there might be a marcus swinging the other way episode at some point.

Interesting tribe switch. The weak and lazy in the old Fang become the dominant 3 with the disgruntled Kelly tagging along. Good pick of Kelly by Kenny who is now in a really good position. If they do end up voting out Kelly like the're talking about then they're really stupid. They risk becoming the minority again with Sugar joining the other 3. GC may be dumber than I thought.

They do smartly get rid of Jacky. GC talking about voting out Kelly must have happened much earlier and they just edited it. Now they can target Ace or Sugar if they lose again but they have to hope those two don't trade the hidden idol.

What I don't get was why Kelly called out Kenny and the track girl for being lazy in the challenge. She still voted with them so it might have just been part of the plan.

While they were smart to take out Jacky, I really despise the lazy three old Fang.

I was expecting somebody after the tribe switch say "Where the fuck is all your rice?"

Kelly seems to be totally oblivious to what she says in terms of how it can offend people. Having said that, Fang looks terrible right now and it seems unlikely they can win any physical challenges.

Poor Bob, being left up there for so long.

I can see some new alliances forming over time, especially since Matty doesn't seem particularly enthused with the lazy 3.

why on earth would you tell someone you were going to vote for them?

vote Lathum


You're right, I love the blind side better. :)

Randy is the best thing going for this season. He's hilarious and I'm glad he took Bob's place in the most powerful alliance. Hopefully they stick together and he goes far.

Suzie is an idiot and completely worthless. I wish her and Crystal would have gone last night before the merge instead of Dan and Ace. I wonder what was going through Sugar's mind voting off her closest ally.

And if Suzie wasn't an idiot, she would realize that she got 3 votes and she would switch alliances. I doubt she's that smart though. I understand what Kota did because they thought Dan might have the idol, but now Suzie might stir things up.

Fang would still be outnumbered though unless they get Bob to switch. Matty is pretty much on his own now and I think he'll be one of the 1st ones gone after the merge because he's the biggest immunity threat to Kota.

Randy is a jackass. I hoipe he is gone and gone soon.

I'm enjoying this season quite a bit.

Have a good mix of characters with some golden boys (Marcus, Matty), some strong tacticians (Corrine, Randy, maybe Kenny), some players that could shake things up if they make it to the merge (Bob and Crystal), and two really good under the radar players (Sugar and Charlie).

I think Randy is one of the most unique players I have seen. He is annoying as hell, but is surprisingly good in physical challenges and is really strong behind the scenes.

Sugar is much smarter than the competitors think she is. I thought that the move to boot Ace was a good move for her. Ace wasn't trustworthy and she could see through his motivations. He also indirectly made her a target. She's got a three person voting block she can trust now and the immunity idol. She can wheel and deal in the merge with those bargaining pieces and become a big player.

Randy is half-nuts, but that's honestly a good thing in this game.

the fact that Randy is a wedding photographer cracks me up

I hope Randy goes to the jury, at least. I can see him going nuts during the final Tribal Council

I could see this happening.

Randy (at a wedding): OK, can you switch the pose so you're grabbing your wife's left breast? OK, now her right breast? Great. Now can you take this camera and photograph me doing the same thing? Great.

I agree, Sugar looks to be a major player because of how she's portrayed herself as the bimbo. However, she isn't stupid at all (at least from what they show) and I can see her switching alliances at another key point to get further in the game. Having said that, I'm not sure she can win if she pushes the bimbo persona too far because it might be hard to sell at the final council.

not only did she vote him off, but did you all happen to notice that there was a second word on her vote card that was blurred out? obviously you didnt know it was her card until the credits when they showed them all voting but her card obviously said "Ace XXXX" with the x's blurred out...one can only imagine that it said "Hole"

After this season, they're gonna change it to: "They're getting de-Fanged" instead of getting "Pagonged".

Sugar is getting exponentially cuter by the week.

As for Randy, he is such an over-the-top asshole that I hope he sticks around. I mean, honestly even Fairplay wasn't this big an asshole. I'm pretty sure Randy is not even remotely an act. Y'all should check out his bio on the CBS page. It's something else.

I just want him to survive at least until the family visit. I hate all the idiotic crying during the family stuff (it's mostly phoniness -- watch the first season before the show was a phenomenon, nobody cries except Jenna). I don't even think Randy will have a visitor at all, short of maybe his dog's ashes. Could be a sorely needed and hilarious change of pace!

Crystal is the most un-athletic Olympian male I've ever seen. Clumsy as hell and a moron to boot.

It boggles my mind that she is an Olympic athlete - she hasn't done anything in any challenge. She couldn't even run up a hill in the first episode.

LOL! Randy is hilarious and I really hope he goes far. It says on his bio he admits that he's a trainwreck. If I remember correctly, Randy was the only one to not receive a letter from home on this week's show. Sugar, Randy, and Kenny are good people to root for this year.

You've got Crystal mixed up with someone else, the Crystal I'm speaking of is a man! Yeah baby, a man!

I think it's alright to post this, but I put spoiler tags on it just in case. It's about the editing of the person who was voted out tonight.

Good stuff tonight. Man how Survivor has changed since the initial seasons. I think that while viewers still respect honesty, stupidity is worse than lying now.

Abso-effing-lutely. Not just the viewers, but more importantly the jury. And I've enjoyed these past three seasons more than any of the first 14 because of it. For a long time I cursed Richard Hatch's win as the initial impetus for that subsequent multi-season obsession over "honorable" gameplay. But the show seems to have finally outgrown that.

I know Survivor passed its peak a long time ago in terms of popularity, but for Survivor game strategy geeks like myself, these recent seasons are so enjoyable. Now even the non-hardcore gamers, the mostly under-the-radar weak older players like Susie, are making mostly wise and savvy strategic moves.

EDIT: This is not to say there isn't the occasional idiot (ERIK) but even his retardism was interesting, as opposed to the "meekly settling for 6th in a six-person alliance" type of stupidity.

I realized why this is. She was pretty chunky in the beginning but now that she's thinning down, she looks better.

This is shaping up to be a strong season.

Marcus had played a fantastic game, both physically and behind-the-scenes, but got a little too comfortable with Crystal. I bet he is still kicking himself. If he had just fortified his alliance with Susie, he would have had a great shot.

Agreed on Sugar getting more and more attractive as the weeks go on. I'm pulling for her, Kenny, and Matty to advance as far as possible now.

Gotta say, has anyone as useless and dislikeable as Crystal been able to get so far? I mean, she's terrible at challenges and she has a terrible attitude ... yet somehow manages to survive week after week.

The alliance of 6 really should have gotten rid of Suzie, she's really crazy, like Randy said. I'm not sure she has any strategy at all and is going to be easily played. If they had kept the other guy (can't remember his name now), they would have had more control.

And poor Sugar, is she really that naive? The conversation with Matty ... I hope she wins and she probably has a good shot if she reaches the final 3 because it would be hard not to vote for her since she seems nice but man, she's easily manipulated.

Cherie (both times)

Vecepia won the whole thing being pretty useless. I don't think she had the terrible attitude, but was the original "weak player I can easily beat but she won the whole thing" player...

I think I'm rooting for Bob or Kenny at this point. Really, the person I am actively rooting against is Crystal. Has she ever not sucked in a challenge? If she was an Olympic athlete at some point, she has totally let herself go now.

Bob is likely in trouble. If their tribe loses the next challenge, he is all but guaranteed of being voted out.

I just thought it was cool that he outlasted everyone in yesterday's immunity challenge.

Ditto.

I had little hope Marcus would make it to the final 3 given his likeability and threat physically, so this really was inevitable I think. Too bad though, I liked him. He should have tried to hide that immunity idol instead of throwing it out to sea. :)

And how dumb was that anyway to have the idol hidden right there where everybody could see it and wonder why the person was digging there? (if they kept the note a secret).

Marcus was as much in control as someone could be at this point in the game and he blew it. He played flawlessly up until that point and his one mistake got him voted out.

Assuming tribes don't merge before the next immunity challenge Fang is going to have a very tough time winning now and Bob is definitely the next to go.

It would have been interesting to see if Charlie would have lost the challenge on purpose if Matty had dropped out earlier.

I really think that was the writers trying to create a TV moment rather than making a serious attempt to put another idol in play.

Crystal once again proved my point of her being the most unathletic olympian I have ever seen.

Not sure if anyone else noticed, but Marge Boesch died and tonight's episode was in memory of her.

I did notice that. Poor Rudy. Anyway, I think Sugar picked the right side to go with. The losers and misfits she aligned with are more likely to fall apart. Kenny might be getting too cocky and people are beginning to recognize him as a power player. Crystal is still worthless. I can't believe Suzie won. The fake idol Bob made was awesome and I hope that comes into play later on.

With the way this Survivor is turning out, the only person I'm really rooting for is Kenny at this point.

But it would be hilarious to see Suzie, Crystal and Randy as the final 3. Not sure anyone in the jury would actually want to vote.

I liked Kenny earlier on, but now he completely annoys me.

In fact I don't think there is one likable person left in this season that I really am rooting to win. I guess if I had to choose, at this point I want to see Sugar win. She seemed useless at the start, but she actually has exceeded my expectations for her.

I'd go with Sugar and Matty. They are both likable in my book. I'm still interested to see how Sugar's idol comes into play/how she will use it.

The wife and I have five of these on the tivo that we haven't watched yet.

Has there been a recap episode yet? If so, when was it?

And if not, without giving any spoilers, has anything happened that would be worth watching five hours to catch up vs. just diving back in now?

There have been a few pretty good episodes I thought, some twists and such, but mostly normal Survivor type game things. It hasn't been the worst tv ever, so if you like the series, you probably would enjoy the last few episodes.

Pretty strong fake idol. :)

Hopefully it comes into play at some point.

Matty? Seriously? His obnoxious attitude at the immunity challenge the other week is enough to keep him far from being likeable.

I was hoping the same. with the tribes merging though, isn't this when they normally stop having exile island? My assumption is that no one else will be sent out there, which is a shame.

Of course I still had it in my head that somehow, someone would end up sneaking out to sea and grabbing the one idol that was thrown out there too.. but oh well :)

Randy is likeable and he is who I want to win although he probably has no shot. Suzie, Crystal, and that other bitch Corrryn I think her name is also have no shot to win so it's down to Bob, Kenny, Sugar, or Matty. Sugar and Kenny are the favorites to win at this point.

We must be watching different Randy's then. His attitude at the challenge and at tribal was pretty terrible and I can see why people wouldn't like him if they actually have to live with him.

Hmmm... I assumed he had taken the idol with him back to camp, but, in hindsight, I guess it was kind of vague as to whether he planted it or kept it.

You must be watching in some strange parrallel universe?

the funniest thing i have seen on TV all season was when he was at camp with susie and crystal and said that he was all alone at camp with two beautiful women.

sugar is an idiot. i was impressed with her when she found the idol, but first she let kenny trick her into voting for ace, and even though she knows he screwed her, she listened to him again.

i am really annoyed with this season. the whole juggle the tribes before the merge thing is so old and tired. as whiny as it sounded, i actually think corrinne was right about people deserving to go home...when you are part of a winning tribe and have to endure getting shipped over to a bunch of losers that vote you out, that isnt being outwitted or outplayed...that is just getting screwed by a crappy mechanic.

I agree with all of the above. I'd add that another funny part was Randy dancing with the native woman. How hard up is he that he has to go to another country whose inhabitants probably don't speak much English to find a woman who "likes" him?

In some cases, that's true. In this case, Marcus still had a numbers advantage in his new setup. He simply didn't work Susie correctly and paid for it. He deserved to go home. Part of Survivor is effectively managing the low end of your alliance and/or skillfully relating to outsiders in case you ever need them down the road.

Marcus does NOT deserve to be there. He was outplayed by Kenny. Corryn is a bitch and nobody cares what she says. Hopefully she's gone soon as nobody deserves to get voted out more than she does.

Randy is likeable because he's a dick. He hates Crystal which is a plus. He admits to being an absolute trainwreck and if that isn't likeable I don't know what is.

This has a lot about you I am afraid if true:(

Completely agree with this. Marcus dug his own grave. Like you said, he didn't play the bottom of his alliance correctly and he also was to honest with Crystal.

Even if the two tribes had merged at ten, Marcus may have still been voted out. Marcus, Corinne, Charlie, Randy, and Bob needed either Sugar or Susie to vote with them for a 6-4 majority. That means Sugar could give the idle to whoever Kota wanted to vote to out and and consequently cancel out their five votes. Sugar, Crystal, Matty, Susie, and Kenny could then send whoever they wanted home which probably would have been Marcus.

1.) Randy is far from likable. He's just as whinny as Crystal and him going on about an African native liking him was one of the best unintentional comedy moments of the season.

2.) Marcus made one mistake and paid for it. He played a great game up to that point, but his mistake was colossal and he deserved to go home for it.

3.) I agree that the tribe swapping thing is becoming old and its taking the game out of the player's hands and bringing a lot of unnecessary luck into play.

4.) I liked Kenny at first. The past couple of episodes though he's started to wear on me a lot. He's getting arrogant to the point where its obnoxious and right now I'd have a hard time deciding whether he or Crystal annoy me more.

5.) This season has been a disaster as far as likable people getting to the end. Bob is probably the only person left I'd like to see win (maybe Sugar, but thats just to show how bad this season has been) and that says more for this season than it does for Bob.

I thought Sugar should have written down Randy and let the two factions duke it out over the tie...

I really think that they need to have a full season WITHOUT a merge. That way, people stop voting out their top members early in the game because they're a "threat", and the first season doing this would be a complete shock to the tribes that did not keep strong.

Overall I believe that Survivor favors the weak far too much. There's no point in keeping your tribe strong when: 1) you'll switch tribes 2-3 times anyways and 2) that person will kick your ass later on if you leave them in the game

My favorite in this game is Kenny because he has successfully exploited the weakest members of the other tribe and turned them to his side. His ultimate success will be determined by how those members perceive themselves in this alliance and whether they trust him to keep them along to the end. If they believe that Kenny is doing it for Kenny, the votes may splinter again later on.

Not sure if a non-merge game could work. Games would get increasingly difficult because of manpower issues especially if one tribe was outclassed (like this year).

I think they should keep them all together from day one. Then for each set of immunity challenges they need to randomly split them into "tribes" for teh challenge. The losing "tribe" goes to tribal. This forces everyone to play an even larger social game as they have no safety net alliance to always fall back on.

Ooooh I like that idea. Forward it to CBS. ;)

Why not? It really seems like the current format of the game has been exploited to the fullest, and this would break the pattern. Right now the producers are so determined to make "good tv" that they continuously rewrite the rules to mix things up, and the game feels like a series of random patterns and luck vs. the best strategy winning. If they could prove that these tribe changeups were determined prior to the game starting I'd be okay with it but they definitely feel reactive. Makes it feel like the producers have too much impact on the game.

Randy really came off as a racist at tribal

That had to be one of the best tribal councils ever.

I wonder if this bought Bob a little bit longer in the game. Sugar said tonight that Matty was starting to play the game so maybe he will be the target instead of Bob once they get rid of Corryn. The goal for Sugar, Kenny, and Matty is to get into the finals with Crystal and Suzie and be guaranteed the $1 million. Sugar might be able to use Bob to help oust Matty and Kenny to do just that.

Next week's preview looked pretty interesting and I'm not sure what to make of it.

I wonder if that preview was Bob's attempt to explain the idol he had instead of a new twist.

Said it before, but oh my lord, Sugar is still getting insanely sexier with each passing week. That cheery feistiness...

Um... but anyway. Yeah, I think for everyone in the dominant alliance, it was an awesome joke to play on Randy. For Bob, it was to gain an ally from the opposing alliance in Sugar. Might pay off down the road, might not, but it probably puts him in a better situation than he was in otherwise.

I don't know what the hell that was all about next week, though. I also thought that maybe Bob was just trying to cover his ass with Corinne, but that really doesn't make any sense if you think about it...

Didn't everyone see what the idol they threw into the ocean looked like? If Corryn saw it then she would know that the fake idol Bob gave to Randy wasn't the one Marcus threw into the ocean so it wouldn't be Bob just trying to cover his ass.

Man that had to be one of the best Survivor moments ever! That plus Crystal shouting after she wrote Randy's name down so everybody heard her. What a complete idiot Randy was and Corrinne for that matter.