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MrBug708 05-30-2006 01:33 PM

Alright boyz, here we go!!! OOTP2006 First Impressions Thread!
 
I wanted to beat SirFozzie. :)

sovereignstar 05-30-2006 01:38 PM

not cool

MrBug708 05-30-2006 01:40 PM

Well...I havent preordered yet, if that makes you feel better. I went to and the ordering system was down so I said screw it...

sovereignstar 05-30-2006 01:44 PM

Starting an impressions thread and not being able to make any impressions because you do NOT have the game yet is just plain stupid period->>.

SirFozzie 05-30-2006 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708
I wanted to beat SirFozzie. :)


Damn You! You Ruined it! :D

(and I did preorder the game, too! :D)

MrBug708 05-30-2006 01:53 PM

What? Not I keel you now?

SirFozzie 05-30-2006 01:55 PM

Ok.. just remember, you asked for it.

I KEEL YOU NOW!

Johnny Slick 05-30-2006 01:57 PM

My first impression is that a day is too long to wait. Argh.

(and yes, I did pre-order)

(in mid-March. I'm a moron, what can I say?)

DanGarion 05-30-2006 02:01 PM

I'm looking forward to this game so much I have preordered TWO copies!

MrBug708 05-30-2006 02:03 PM

I have preorder envy right now..:(

Johnny Slick 05-30-2006 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dangarion
I'm looking forward to this game so much I have preordered TWO copies!

4 E-licenses!!! You can put that on your computer at home, your laptop, your computer at work, and your iPod!

DanGarion 05-30-2006 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Slick
4 E-licenses!!! You can put that on your computer at home, your laptop, your computer at work, and your iPod!

Well the second copy is for my best friend for his birthday.

Johnny Slick 05-30-2006 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dangarion
Well the second copy is for my best friend for his birthday.

Better buy a 3rd copy then! I bet your friend won't be happy to only be able to play the game on your computer at work or your iPod.

sovereignstar 05-30-2006 03:13 PM

These impressions fucking rock.

Johnny Slick 05-30-2006 03:14 PM

Whoever is running a hobbit league from scratch plz let me know thx! How's the AI?

Pumpy Tudors 05-30-2006 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar
These impressions fucking rock.

You have become a bitter man.

Pumpy Tudors 05-30-2006 03:24 PM

Dola

Or woman. I can never keep some of you folks straight.

Ryche 05-30-2006 06:37 PM

I preordered. Will have just enough time to download it tomorrow morning too, then go to a conference for two days until I can actually play it :(

Buccaneer 05-30-2006 06:42 PM

Let's see....Start -> All Programs -> 400 Software Studios -> Out of the Park Baseball 5 -> OOTP5. Yep, still there. Whew.

Ryche 05-31-2006 09:22 AM

Installed and up and running. Too bad I have to leave now.

SackAttack 05-31-2006 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryche
Installed and up and running. Too bad I have to leave now.


Why do I get the feeling somebody has a death wish?

KWhit 05-31-2006 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar
Starting an impressions thread and not being able to make any impressions because you do NOT have the game yet is just plain stupid period->>.


True dat.

Ryche 05-31-2006 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SackAttack
Why do I get the feeling somebody has a death wish?


It installed just fine. Is that an impression?

Ramzavail 05-31-2006 09:29 AM

I just got my email!!!!!!!!!!

KWhit 05-31-2006 09:29 AM

Downloading now. How's that for an impression?

SackAttack 05-31-2006 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryche
It installed just fine. Is that an impression?


I suppose. I checked the website, and it still indicated pre-orders, so I was assuming it wasn't available yet. Seeing two more posts to that nature, well...

You have my apologies, sir.

Marc Vaughan 05-31-2006 09:33 AM

As I understand things currently people who pre-ordered are allowed to download, once a short period of them having 'exclusivity' the website will updated and people will be able to download as they purchase.

SackAttack 05-31-2006 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan
As I understand things currently people who pre-ordered are allowed to download, once a short period of them having 'exclusivity' the website will updated and people will be able to download as they purchase.


Yeah, I learned that while browsing the forums. I just hope those of us in the media won't have to wait six hours, too. ;)

SirFozzie 05-31-2006 09:53 AM

Downloading now.. thank god I took my serial code to work and have Logmein on my home machine :)

sovereignstar 05-31-2006 10:16 AM

BREAKING NEWS!!



There is a manual included with this game.

sovereignstar 05-31-2006 10:21 AM

Here's the manual if you're bored: http://rapidshare.de/files/21859862/...anual.zip.html

SirFozzie 05-31-2006 10:22 AM

I have a mini dynasty going on in the dynasty section :)

sovereignstar 05-31-2006 10:28 AM

This is worth noting

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc Duffy
The packaged manual is a cut down version of a rather mammoth "Game Guide" that'll be uploaded tonight!


I'm assuming this is the 250+ page deal.

mauchow 05-31-2006 10:30 AM

The game is overwhelming, the same feeling I had when I beta'd for three days.

I consider myself an average player of OOTP, I like things to be quick and easy and I'm not really getting that feeling with this one. Oh, well. With time, I suppose.

The depth is insane. I'm going to be pissed when a few of my players get called up to their respective ML squads(I took a job in AAA to start out).

Marc Duffy 05-31-2006 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar
This is worth noting



I'm assuming this is the 250+ page deal.


Yes. We felt including this in the package might be a little off putting so we cut it down a bit but the big one will go out on the site later.

Maple Leafs 05-31-2006 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mauboy1
I consider myself an average player of OOTP, I like things to be quick and easy and I'm not really getting that feeling with this one. Oh, well. With time, I suppose.

That's what kept me from getting into EHM. I found myself saying "Geez, can we just get to simming a game already?"

That said, I realize that "too much depth" is probably not something most text-simmers will complain about.

Marc Duffy 05-31-2006 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mauboy1
The game is overwhelming, the same feeling I had when I beta'd for three days.

I consider myself an average player of OOTP, I like things to be quick and easy and I'm not really getting that feeling with this one. Oh, well. With time, I suppose.

The depth is insane. I'm going to be pissed when a few of my players get called up to their respective ML squads(I took a job in AAA to start out).


I wouldn't disagree that it's overwhelming but it will be second nature soon enough when you learn where everything is and how it all fits together.

SackAttack 05-31-2006 11:01 AM

Initial thoughts - it doesn't seem like there's any way to change your mind on how many minor leagues to add short of starting the process over again. You can remove the major leagues, but the only option I see for the minors is to add them.

So, uh, I'm playing MLB with a full minor league contingent. Hopefully my PC doesn't choke on that. So far so good.

Ramzavail 05-31-2006 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SackAttack
Initial thoughts - it doesn't seem like there's any way to change your mind on how many minor leagues to add short of starting the process over again. You can remove the major leagues, but the only option I see for the minors is to add them.

So, uh, I'm playing MLB with a full minor league contingent. Hopefully my PC doesn't choke on that. So far so good.


That is whats scaring me, I've sat with the FM slowness before.

I started with the same type of league.

SirFozzie 05-31-2006 11:08 AM

Game is a LOT quicker then FM

CraigSca 05-31-2006 11:19 AM

Wow - it's flippin' FAST.

MizzouRah 05-31-2006 11:27 AM

Sack was saying ootp is 33 meg and Puresim is 100.. kind of weird.

korme 05-31-2006 11:40 AM

One question - can you add additional teams to leagues after you've already began? I have visions to expand the NPB

SirFozzie 05-31-2006 11:42 AM

Ok, just some quick issues to note:

The screen is really busy. No unused space whatso ever. Makes me long for the day where in FM it was just the field and folks running around :)

Unless you go to the screen that has the schedule, and you hit Continue, it will auto sim games for you (unless you hit the manage button)

sovereignstar 05-31-2006 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shorty3281
One question - can you add additional teams to leagues after you've already began? I have visions to expand the NPB


Yes.

Young Drachma 05-31-2006 11:47 AM

I preordered too. But barring any late developments, I'll be gone in two weeks from the summer. So, I won't get to play much at all. That annoys me, but..at least its here.

MizzouRah 05-31-2006 11:48 AM

Impressions are so overrated.

Swaggs 05-31-2006 11:49 AM

Does each team have a coaching staff, a la EHM? I want to be able to hire former players as my managers, hitting coaches, bench coach, etc. :)

MrBug708 05-31-2006 11:50 AM

Each team does Swaggs, according to the ootp boards. Former players do come back and coach, but not sure if it is all players

Ramzavail 05-31-2006 11:53 AM

It shouldn't be all players - its not in real life, I mean imagine Dave Telgheder as your pitching coach...

Swaggs 05-31-2006 11:59 AM

In EHM, it seems like only players who have certain leadership ratings can become coaches, so I would imagine this would be similar. In EHM, toward the end of their careers, you can opt to sign these type of guys as players or coaches/scouts.

MrBug708 05-31-2006 12:02 PM

I never played EHM more then 3 seasons so I couldnt tell ya...

SirFozzie 05-31-2006 12:05 PM

Urgl.. it may be just that I'm playing it over the net, but there is just too much information. too much STUFF on the screen.

Bee 05-31-2006 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie
Urgl.. it may be just that I'm playing it over the net, but there is just too much information. too much STUFF on the screen.


You need to turn in your text simmers card...;)

Swaggs 05-31-2006 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie
Urgl.. it may be just that I'm playing it over the net, but there is just too much information. too much STUFF on the screen.


It could just be residual effects of your brain being broken yesterday. ;)

SirFozzie 05-31-2006 12:25 PM

That too.. :D

the scoreboard with the lineups completely in scoreboard light is offputting, at least right now to me

astrosfan64 05-31-2006 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie
That too.. :D

the scoreboard with the lineups completely in scoreboard light is offputting, at least right now to me


5mb left to download.

One impression, the links to the downloads are SLOW.

astrosfan64 05-31-2006 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrosfan64
5mb left to download.

One impression, the links to the downloads are SLOW.


dola next time get this stuff put on FILEPLANET

Young Drachma 05-31-2006 12:30 PM

The ones towards of the download list are a lot faster. I don't remember the one I chose. But I initally chose one of the top ones and it was slow as heck. I chose a bottom one and then it went really fast.

CleBrownsfan 05-31-2006 12:31 PM

I have it d/l'd @ work and messed with it a bit at lunch. Overwhelming is the only thing I can say after a hour of toying around with it.

CleBrownsfan 05-31-2006 12:33 PM

My d/l took onlly 4-5 min - I used one of the later ones in the list they provided.

Young Drachma 05-31-2006 12:35 PM

Overwhelming is what I thought the first time I ever played EHM, so....I'm actually happier to hear that about OOTP than "OMG, where is this or where is that..." I'm sure that'll come later, but...yeah. Just downloaded my copy and got another license.

I actually got a refund for my preorder (I preordered after the price went up, so it didn't matter..) because I didn't figure I'd be here. But, 3 weeks will be enough to get into and stuff.

Here's hoping I get a job here this summer I applied for so I don't have to leave at all.

DanGarion 05-31-2006 12:36 PM

I love the simulation screen you get to see while the game sims, it's sweet.

Maple Leafs 05-31-2006 01:32 PM

Is there a demo?

Bee 05-31-2006 01:34 PM

I just finished reading the impressions thread on the OOTP boards. So sugary, my tooth hurts. :(

Looking forward to some real impressions...

John Galt 05-31-2006 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bee
I just finished reading the impressions thread on the OOTP boards. So sugary, my tooth hurts. :(

Looking forward to some real impressions...


Yeah. I expect we will have to wait at least a couple days before anyone really starts to examine the stats engine in depth. The tech support forum does show a fair amount of strange bugs. So, that's something I guess.

CleBrownsfan 05-31-2006 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs
Is there a demo?


Not yet...

kingfc22 05-31-2006 01:37 PM

Hmmm, I really have the itch to purchase this game, but I want to be sure that there are no show stoppers.


Any plans for an FOFC league?

MizzouRah 05-31-2006 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bee
I just finished reading the impressions thread on the OOTP boards. So sugary, my tooth hurts. :(

Looking forward to some real impressions...


yeah... where's Skydog when you need him...:)

if histories imported from 6.5 I might have done the deed.. but I really want to read some FOFC impressions..

MizzouRah 05-31-2006 01:43 PM

From Todd at the sportsblog: a tad encouraging

Quote:

Quickie OOTP Notes



Okay, I spent my lunch hour with OOTP. Here is what I've learned: If you move very quickly, you might be able to read all of the league creation options available to you. Not change them. Not understand them all. Just observe them all and go, "Uh. Wow that's a lot a stuff and, er... stuff, man."

It's simply overwhelming. Hopefully all this stuff works. A few other observations:

On Importing Leagues:
- Importing a leage takes just a minute or two, at least to get it to show in the league creation screen. Actual league creation once you clicke the "Start Game" (ie - create new league) takes a few minutes (less than 5 on my underpowered laptop).
- Logos don't appear to import
- Fielding stats don't import, but hitting and pitching stats do.
- Year-end player awards (gold glove, MVP, etc.) import
- Team histories (including League Champions) don't appear to import (that seems odd to me)
- Because you import leagues into the league creation screen first, it's actually possible to make your existing OOTP league a separate minor or world league within a larger world baseball framework. For instance I could replace the AAA baseball setup for a conventional Major League Baseball scenario with the New City Baseball League that Bill ran and I was in. (I'm not sure why you'd want to do this, but it's cool that you can.)

One special note for Vista users: If you try to run this game in Windows Vista Beta 2, you must select to run the program as an Administrator. If you don't, nothing happens when you activiate the game's icon. (To do this, right-click the game's icon and select Run as Administrator. You can also permanently set this option from its Properties dialog box.) I expect that at best, this will apply to maybe one of you reading the blog, but hey, it's worth noting. (Btw - I really, really, like the Beta 2 build of Vista. Very stable.)

More to come!

Young Drachma 05-31-2006 01:50 PM

I'll do a detailed impression once I get to class and I use logmein, in like a half hour.

Terps 05-31-2006 01:51 PM

Anyone know if you import a roster set from 6 or 6.5 if the minor leaguers will import also?

Vince 05-31-2006 01:52 PM

So am I missing something?

I didn't pre-order (why, I don't know. I intended to get it upon release anyways), but I put in an order this morning, and it still said pre-order. I go to the download page, and it says 'Download Items', but there are no links, and it mentions that the game will be available in Spring of 2006. Do I have to wait because I didn't pre-order, or am I just retarded?

lighthousekeeper 05-31-2006 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince
Do I have to wait because I didn't pre-order, or am I just retarded?

Is 'both' an option?

sovereignstar 05-31-2006 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince
Do I have to wait because I didn't pre-order, or am I just retarded?


I'm not sure if you are retarded or not, but you do have to wait until it's released to the general public.

Vince 05-31-2006 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lighthousekeeper
Is 'both' an option?


Obviously, the correct answer.

Vince 05-31-2006 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar
I'm not sure if you are retarded or not, but you do have to wait until it's released to the general public.


Well, I think it's safe to say that I qualify for the retarded moniker at this point. I would mention that I just got out of bed, but it's friggin noon.

Pumpy Tudors 05-31-2006 02:08 PM

I'm totally off the topic here, but I just discovered something. I've been out here in the Eastern time zone for 10 months now, and I'm still not used to be so far in front of California. Vince says that it's noon, and I flip out when I see 3:00 on my computer screen. Agh.

Vince 05-31-2006 02:15 PM

Heh...it always takes me a while to figure out what time zone someone is in...it plays hell with me when I try to figure out what time it is where MIJB is when we chat late at night :)

MizzouRah 05-31-2006 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terps
Anyone know if you import a roster set from 6 or 6.5 if the minor leaguers will import also?


Yes I believe they do.

Young Drachma 05-31-2006 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors
I'm totally off the topic here, but I just discovered something. I've been out here in the Eastern time zone for 10 months now, and I'm still not used to be so far in front of California. Vince says that it's noon, and I flip out when I see 3:00 on my computer screen. Agh.


That happened to me as I've moved further west. That I can never call home without realizing how late it is there.

Gah.

Young Drachma 05-31-2006 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince
So am I missing something?

I didn't pre-order (why, I don't know. I intended to get it upon release anyways), but I put in an order this morning, and it still said pre-order. I go to the download page, and it says 'Download Items', but there are no links, and it mentions that the game will be available in Spring of 2006. Do I have to wait because I didn't pre-order, or am I just retarded?


Like I said earlier in the thread. I'd preordered, but cancelled it because I didn't think I'd be here. But long story short, I ordered a new copy this morning and it worked fine.

sovereignstar 05-31-2006 02:25 PM

THE MAMMOTH GAME GUIDE

JS19 05-31-2006 02:26 PM

On the time zone topic, I had to go to Pensacola, Fl for the Marines a little over a yr ago and for the first week I was there I was still clueless to the fact that it was a different time zone than NY.

Back to OOTP, when exactly is this gonna be available for an idiot like myself who didn't preorder?

korme 05-31-2006 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince
I try to figure out what time it is where MIJB is when we chat late at night :)


That doesn't sound gay at all

Young Drachma 05-31-2006 02:40 PM

I'm sitting here messing around with this and keep going "wow" Sooo robust featurewise. I'm loving the polished look.

Icy 05-31-2006 02:45 PM

Crap, i'm downloading it at 5kbs so it will take like 40 minutes. I have tried all the links, the top ones are so slow and the later ones are not working right now.

Blade6119 05-31-2006 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icy
Crap, i'm downloading it at 5kbs so it will take like 40 minutes. I have tried all the links, the top ones are so slow and the later ones are not working right now.

Ya, i picked a bad day to download my new data updtate 5.05 patch for WWSM...3kbs for 70 megs....i hate you damn baseball people

SackAttack 05-31-2006 02:48 PM

Augh.

I lost my network connection on my laptop about two minutes after getting licensed. What that has meant is that I've been able to play, but not been able to get access to the Internet to post about things I've seen.

Even better, this computer is on the same network, but can't detect the other one, so I can't upload and post screenshots of some of the really weird stuff.

Just a couple notes off the top of my head before I go back and try to fix my network issues.

1) I had a reliever get credited with both the win and the save. I've only seen it happen once, but he was the pitcher of record when the game's lone run scored in the bottom of the 12th inning, AND he pitched 3 innings of relief, so the game might be tracking both things. That normally wouldn't come up is my guess.

2) You can only put players on the disabled list if you're the parent franchise. Probably as it should be, but I had a couple of injuries in an A-ball career beyond two weeks where, well, I had to live with it, because the parent franchise wasn't inclined to do anything about the injuries.

3) "Send Forced"? Cooooool. Pitch-by-pitch mode as an option? Coooooool. Six hits of combined offense in 12 innings because the game appears to be treating the ratings of minor leaguers as major league equivalencies (i.e. contact of '4' sucks ass even though, well, he's a 19 y/o in Rookie ball)? That's...not so cool.

3) Has anybody yet figured out how, when starting a league, to 'lock' the team nicknames in so that when you choose a particular league, you don't have to rename the teams each time?

Marc Duffy 05-31-2006 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JS19
On the time zone topic, I had to go to Pensacola, Fl for the Marines a little over a yr ago and for the first week I was there I was still clueless to the fact that it was a different time zone than NY.

Back to OOTP, when exactly is this gonna be available for an idiot like myself who didn't preorder?


Available now

kingfc22 05-31-2006 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SackAttack
...the game appears to be treating the ratings of minor leaguers as major league equivalencies (i.e. contact of '4' sucks ass even though, well, he's a 19 y/o in Rookie ball)? That's...not so cool.


Eww, that is not cool

John Galt 05-31-2006 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SackAttack
Six hits of combined offense in 12 innings because the game appears to be treating the ratings of minor leaguers as major league equivalencies (i.e. contact of '4' sucks ass even though, well, he's a 19 y/o in Rookie ball)? That's...not so cool.


Wouldn't low ratings also affect the pitchers and balance things out?

TroyF 05-31-2006 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Galt
Yeah. I expect we will have to wait at least a couple days before anyone really starts to examine the stats engine in depth. The tech support forum does show a fair amount of strange bugs. So, that's something I guess.



Barring disaster with my internet connection, I plan to have a 100 year fictional report up by tomorrow morning.

That should give us all some idea of what the statistical output is.

As for the in game impressions, you know the people who have it here at FOFC will give you truthful feedback.

Blade6119 05-31-2006 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Galt
Wouldn't low ratings also affect the pitchers and balance things out?

Yes, so likely his team is that much worse compared to the opponent

spleen1015 05-31-2006 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SackAttack
3) Has anybody yet figured out how, when starting a league, to 'lock' the team nicknames in so that when you choose a particular league, you don't have to rename the teams each time?


Do you mean when you select one of the standard leagues?

Schmidty 05-31-2006 02:55 PM

I can't find anywhere to download the damned game even though I just bought it. I keep trying the torrent link, but it won't work. Does anyone have another link to the exe?

Eaglesfan27 05-31-2006 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroyF
Barring disaster with my internet connection, I plan to have a 100 year fictional report up by tomorrow morning.

That should give us all some idea of what the statistical output is.

As for the in game impressions, you know the people who have it here at FOFC will give you truthful feedback.



I'm looking forward to it. I'm vacilating about whether or not to buy, and I'm waiting for some reliable impressions.

sovereignstar 05-31-2006 02:57 PM

http://rapidshare.de/files/21871657/ootp2006_setup.exe

Do you have a Bittorrent client, Schmidty?

John Galt 05-31-2006 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroyF
Barring disaster with my internet connection, I plan to have a 100 year fictional report up by tomorrow morning.

That should give us all some idea of what the statistical output is.

As for the in game impressions, you know the people who have it here at FOFC will give you truthful feedback.


I look forward to reading that.

Schmidty 05-31-2006 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar
http://rapidshare.de/files/21871657/ootp2006_setup.exe

Do you have a Bittorrent client, Schmidty?


Yeah, but for some reason it just hangs, and doesn't d/l anything. I tried another file, and it did the same thing. I'll uninstall it and reinstall. Hopefully that will work.

Thanks for the link.


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