Lost, Season 2
 

Season premiere starts at 9pm eastern on ABC. Tune in or catch a glimpse of it later on a Live Links commerical.

For those of you who want to be spoiled, go to aintitcoolnews.com

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gottimd and his spoilers. BOOO!!!!

Can't wait for tonight.

Want to be spanked?

Hey I don't post them on here, just let the curious know where to find. I can also tell you the ending to many movies that are out as well if you would like?

What's the deal with Rosebud?

His pet name for his gay lover.

My girlfriend decided that we needed to watch all of the episodes and catch up with the show, and is thoroughly hooked. Looks like season 2 will have it's claws in me as well.

Fwiw, there's quite a bit of skill at work with this show, and it's pretty watchable (in part because they focus so much on character, which is one of the reasons Twin Peaks was so successful as a cult hit despite the mysteries eventually being unraveled). Guess I'll be along for the ride now.

Oh, and another fwiw: since Sawyer was reading Watership Down the similarities between the bunnies and the castaways predicaments were mentioned. Didn't see anyone mention that he was later shown reading A Wrinkle in Time, which makes me think we're in for some time related hijinks. My guess is that the eventual mystery of the show revolves around the issue of time.

There are many different speculations I have read on the Lost forums. Many people have analyzed in so much detail, it is ridiculous. (Yours above is one of the many speculations noted).

Man, no cable = the sux0rs

I could get better reception by rubbing two sticks together.

This is one show I'm not getting suckered into this year. Not worth the time, I doubt the plot moves any further this year than it did last year.

sourpuss sourpuss

Somebody has a little sand in his vagina.

damn you east coasters. I want to watch Lost NOW!!!

Looking forward to seeing this after missing the first season.

Fantastic episode tonight. I was especially fond of the opening, thought it was a very, very cool.

I watched the one hour recap of the first season to prep myself for tonight's season two premiere. I thoroughly enjoyed it and am now hooked on this show!

It was very cool and very spooky. Good stuff.

that was a horribly disappointing episode.

there another thread already started.

http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~fof/foru...ad.php?t=34194

I think this show needs another thread, needs to start catching up to the werewolfs.

Either that or more cowbell.

Personally, I refuse to start posting in an already 10 page thread about the new season.

did you want everything to wrap up in one show?

Those are my thoughts exactly. Then the rest of the season would be boring. That would be like in the 6th sense if you knew Bruce Willis was dead, or Memento in the right direction, or if I had any clue what the hell Mullholland Drive was about.

I was actually surprised there was that much stuff 'revealed'.

I'd like anything to happen... but I'll make sure not to post on a messageboard again so I don't disrupt anyone's ideas about anything.

As I thought last season's finale was woefully bad, the first episode of the second season was good. At least we're getting somewhere.

How did nothing happen in the episdoe though, that's what i'm not grasping? If anything, they covered more ground in this epsidode than I expected.

Agreed completely - loved the episode. Gave me chills a couple times, and I was hooked.

Me too. To jump right in and show you - in the first scene - that someone is living with the comfort of modern conveniences in the hatch showed quite a bit IMO. The fun of this show is speculating/discussing what might be the secret of the Island. If they revealed that, then this show becomes nothing more than a soap opera set on an island or a dramatic Gilligan's Island with better production values. I have no problem with the answers they reveal leading to even more questions. In fact, I rather enjoy it.

Going back the introduction, I really thought it was outstanding. I assumed it was a flashback, as did everyone I imagine, up until the point where you heard the bang/saw the rumble... then I realized "wow, this is inside the hatch!!"

Completely unexpected, and it now raises a zillion questions of its own. How long has that guy been in there? Was that setup built before him (it had a late 70's/early 80's vibe with the old-school computer and vinyl records), how much time has passed between Jack's surgery flashback and now?

I think the show has really done a good job of bringing us along slowly while keeping me hooked and wanting more.

Ending up *cough* "taping" the show, since I had such bad reception. Will have to watch it later tonight. Will post some thoughts then.

But one odd thing that stuck out to me was that he had what looked to be a very modern (front loading) washer and dryer. 70s style overall and ancient computer technology, but recent appliances. Very odd (unless I was imagining things).

I saw the same thing. The washer and dryer appeared to be new. They looked like the Duet washer and dryer.

Yeah, my wife said the same thing. When they first showed the hatch dwelling, she said it must be the 70's, and then I said "No way, look at some of those appliances, they seem fairly modern".

Maybe he ventures out of there every few years? Or has an internet connection and gets them delivered?:rolleyes:

Someone might know better than me, but I believe it is improper rolleyes etiquette to roll eyes at your own suggestion. ;)

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I talked with people at work and here are our observations:

1. The vial he injected had the familiar string of numbers on it
2. the number entered into the computer had the same numbers
3. I believe the button that Walt said not to push is the one Jack almost did
4. The island is the quarantine-not the shaft (as others have said here)
5. The guy that Jack's wife/slash fiance hit in her accident (he died) had the same last name as Shannon
6. the graffti in the tunnel had 108 in it which equals the sum of the string of numbers

Well the Europeans are and have been far more advanced than the US in washers and driers, so maybe that explains the "modern" looking appliances.

Any thoughts on the passage of time between Jack performing that surgery and them being on the island? I could see as many as 10 years being in the realm of possibility.

Also, I've decided that if there isn't some additional backstory with the "brother" guy (the one in the hatch), then it was pointless to have mave made the character someone Jack had met before.

Desmond is in other peoples backstory's as well, so I'm sure there will be many connections to be made with this guy.

Also, go to oceanicflight815.com and click on the barcode on the bottom. Enter "theislandiswaiting" all one word and read the script.

I did not catch that the guy's last name in the accident. Probably is her dad if you are correct.

Any thoughts on the magnet found in the hatch? Possible radar jamming?

Rutherford, which is Shannons last name. He died at 8:15pm as well.

Damnation! Why did I delete this episode off my TiVO. I knew I shouldn't have done that.

Going to have to watch this episode again.

Hey JamesUMD, how did you know what walt said from listening to the episode? Apparently you are correct but he said it backwards and people on the internet have captured it from the audio and reversed it and posted it and that is what he said.

That one I actually have to credit to the radio. A girl on my team at work, heard that one. I do remember Walt also saying that same thing to Locke before they left on the boat though, in the season finale. He told Locke out of the blue, "don't press the button", and Locke looked at him, like "huh", and then shrugged it off.

I am 99.9% certain that they will meet up with the other people from the back of the plane sometime this season. In my mind it was cemented in the recap show when they showed the scene with Rose (I think she only appeared in the first 2 episodes) where she said that her husband is still alive, and he happened to be in the portajohn at the time that the plane broke up.

My thought on the magnet that attracted Jack's key is that, it powers up (kind of like the Death Star), and the magnet , becomes powerful enough to bring down airplanes/drag ships ashore (kind of like a tractor beam).

Desmon minus 1 letter spells what?

Name 2 people that were apparently paralyzed from the waist down and miraculously were able to walk again? There is another connection there but I am not sure what it is yet.

I refuse to look at any of the websites that have "supposed" spoilers. I like the show because it makes me think. It's like watching a puzzle. Obviously I think through the plot too much.

Last thing. In the season finale when they showed everyone getting on the plane they showed Jack sit down on the plane and in the corner, somewhat blurred, they showed another person, that I swear was staring at Jack. In any other show I would not have thought twice about it, but I almost swore that it meant that there was some sort of meaning behind it. The writers think too many things through to believe otherwise.

Just my thoughts. By the way I love the show lol!

There is no doubt they will meet the other people from the back of the plane. They wouldn't have brought Michelle Rodriguez on for that small part at the airport bar if she wasn't going to appear again.

I am Lost (no pun intended) on at the beginning of the episode it seems like Desmonds underground lair has windows and light (when he is lying in the bed and in the kitchen).

Also did you notice that he was sleeping in a bunk bed? Who sleeps on the bottom? Ethan?

Word. My cable got disconnected today. Fucking cable company wanting money. Reception sucks ass. :mad:

I don't recall seeing him in season 1. Would you mind telling me whose flashbacks he was in?

Check out this link. Not much of a spoiler, but recaps almost everything regarding the numbers. Pretty interesting.

hxxp://forums.go.com/abc/oceanic/thread?threadID=463024

Just got done watching it. And wow, I agree that the first scene kicked ass. Watching the episode in the pitch dark on my laptop definitely added to the suspense. Anyways, I don't have much to add at this point. Hope the season remains this strong.

I was forced to watch the episode by my wife, and my opinion of the show has nit changed one bit. Guess I'm a sour-puss too.

Good things come to those who wait.

Well, if you're going to toss out spoilers, I (and others) would apprecaite you labeling it as such in the future.

Its not a spoiler, its just advice.

Yeah I never understood the enjoyment people get from...

A) Reading what is going to happen on a show they enjoy before it happens

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B) Thinking other people care that you know AND want to know what is going to happen on a show before it happens.

The only television viewing phenomenon that irratates me more than this is the calling lines one. Unless me and my buddies are sitting around all calling lines because we love a movie than don't quote lines. I don't care that you can tell me the next line Teddy KGB is going to say it is really annoying.

I have had that damn song going through my head for two days.

I read a forum where people discuss the show and offer possible theories and discuss what has happened and tell about things that happened in the episode that maybe I missed, after I watch the episode.

Occassionally there will be a spoiler that is revealed but not confirmed, but it doesn't really reveal anything about the plot, just a minor detail to stir up thoughts and theories. Believe me, there is a thread out there where an ending has been revealed apparently, and I refuse to press on that link.

Why would anyone want to know the ending? That'd ruin the fun.

The same reason why people always go looking for presents on Christmas or other holidays. No patience, and want to know rather than finding out in due time or being surprised.

You can't stop The Mamas & The Papas, you can only hope to contain them.

edit: or is that song technically Mama Cass, solo?

Um did you answer the question?

I don't think that's worth thinking about too much. With the right type of light shining in (or because we're talking about a TV show), I'm sure something could be set up to make it look like he's really above the ground.

It seemed when Jack was walking in the room with the computer just before Locke reappeared that he was in some sort of glass atrium that could easily have been above ground... Anyone notice that??? So I think part of that hatch complex does get light from above ground...

Oh yeah, we rewatched the show last night and you can FAINTLY here a female screaming when Jack enters the room and the music is blasting.

Wouldn't that be Kate, since she was the first to go down the shaft but something came up?

Heh heh.

It also seemed to me that the opening scene was daylight shinign through to the bunker, and then there was the explosion...but it was nighttime up above, no? Hmmm. Unless the explosion was a different incident entirely.

That is what I was talking about. But when the explosion happens, he turns out all of the lights I noticed and there doesn't seem to be any daylight anymore.

Less intersting episode tonight (in my opinion). I personally find Michael to be the most annoying character in the show, and feel semi-bored when watching his backstory.

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Did y'all catch the logo on the shark as it swam past?

Logo on the shark? What crack are you smoking? I need to watch it on tivo in slo-mo.

It wasn't anything I was looking for and I caught it easily on the first watch. Same logo as all the other stuff Desmond had.

Yes I saw it too. I don't have Tivo or anything like that so I have no way of double checking the scene but at least now I know I'm not the only who one saw a logo on the shark.

I saw the logo also.

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Do we all think that the "others" that were chasing Jin were the other plane survivors or did anyone else think otherwise?

Yeah I was thinking about this also. I could be the group vs. the mysterious others only flipped so that Jin and the cast are the "others" to the other people on the island.

Ah... Tivo. Anyone else with Tivo rewind and watch Kate's cleavage in the AC Vent in slo mo. Or am I just too much of a pervert?

Pervert.


(Just kidding)

That would explain this:



Unless it was a glitch in the special fx department.

I saw the logo. I loved Kate's cleavage. I liked the episode...can't wait for next week's episode.

Rousseau could potentially be playing both sides, telling each that the others are "the others." But, I personally do think we're going to see some new faction emerge, some group who's been there longer than the crash survivors.

*nods*

she's smokin', man.

Anyone know when they replay episodes? i missed tonights.

They've been replaying them at 8 pm on Wednesday so immediately before the new episode. I don't know of any other replays.

Looks like next weeks episode has the potential to be really good.

I liked how the bear Michael gave Walt as a toddler was a white polar bear.

I liked tonite, but I'm kinda bummed that each episode is a baby step. Give us something!

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Yes, I saw the logo!

That episode was sweet. First, I did not see the logo but I'm going to rewatch my Tivo right now. Secondly, I don't think this "new" group is the other half of the plane because they show Michelle Rodriguez' character locked up with Mike in the previews. Why would the other half lock up their own.

So what happens when the timer hits 0? It is back up to 108:00 now and I should have posted that the numbers would be inputed into the computer because I had a huge feeling that would happen.

That's what I was thinking, too.

"What did one snowman say to the other snowman?" Anyone else interpret what Desmond said other than this when he asked Locke the question to find out if he was "him"

I SAW THE LOGO!!!

And why would Walt not want them to push the button if this execute command is the button he is talking about?

I'd guess it's a timer that has to be reset every 108 minutes, or else the underground place blows up. So maybe if Jack pushed the button without putting in the numbers that would blow up the place as well?

Dola: The episode really pissed me off. The backstory and raft parts were fine, but it really annoyed me how they ended at exactly the moment Jack recognized Desmond for the 2nd week in a row. The 15-second preview for next week probably revealed more than the episode itself.

Somebody already mentioned that it should have been a 2-hr season premier, but I guess they had to break it into two parts. I enjoyed though and they did reveal more stuff even while showing part of last week's story line.

Yeah. I really like the show but drawing it out so much is getting ridiculous I think.

Found this for those that missed it.

The certainly could have made it a 2-hour premier (and probably should have for our sake), but for ratings they're going to want to drag this out over as many weeks as possible. I guess I can't blame them, it's all in the game. Still, I'll admit some weeks can be pretty frustrating. I would rate this episode a C , after rating the season opener an A+.