Werewolf LXXVI - The Werewolf Draft! Game over, see last pages for details
 

Welcome! This will be a traditional werewolf game. Its complexity is still to be determined, and will depend on how many players we get. I am hoping to start this game Tuesday, with the first deadline being Wednesday. We will use a 24 hour clock, and an afternoon deadline.

The gimmick, or twist, in this game is that random.org will not be used. There is no random element at all in this game. The teams will be DRAFTED - like a schoolyard kickball game. The draft order will be publicized (post-game), so if you're not cool with being picked last, please don't play.

If there are any questions, feel free to ask either in thread or via pm.

Declaring for the draft:

1. PackerFanatic
2. oliegirl
3. Lathum
4. Mrs. Schmidty
5. LoneStarGir
6. Passacaglia
7. mccollins
8. claphamsa
9. DaddyTorgo
10. Alan T
11. Chief Rum
12. Danny
13. Barkeep49
14. SnDvls
15. saldana
16. Schmidty
17. KWhit
18. RendeR
19. EagleFan
20. Telle
21. GoldenEagle

Roles and rules:

The village wins when all four wolves are eliminated. The wolves win when there are as many wolves as villagers left in the game, with one exception: If all that is left is one wolf and the Hunter, the villagers win.

Villager roles

Seer
Fake Seer (thinks he's the seer, but isn't - revealed as seer upon death)
Spy (can follow one player per night - if he follows the wolf making the kill, he can id the wolf)
Bodyguard
2 Masons (no pm rights, and are not allowed to reveal upon pain of death)
Duke
Philosopher (scans for the cultist)
Hunter (Villagers win if he is one of the last two players)

Wolf roles

Cunning wolf (scans as villager)
Brutal wolf
cultist (counts as a villager, wins with the wolves, knows the wolves but has no pm rights - selected by the wolf team)
Sorceror (scans for the cultist and seer)
Regular wolf

Only the cunning wolf can kill any player - all other wolves may only kill a player who has voted for them at some point in the game. This only includes votes tabulated at the deadline. The wolves may kill 1 player per night.

All pms are being sent out now. Vanilla villagers will get the following pm: Wolves and non-vanilla villagers will get more specific information, obviously.

The first deadline is Wednesday, 3pm Eastern time. Pms are composed and being sent out right after this is posted. I will post again after they are sent out, and the game will begin then.

Good luck, and have fun!

Edit: When voting, PLEASE provide a blank line both above and below the vote, as well as bolding the vote.

Here is the selection order:

wolf
2 villagers
wolf
4 villagers
wolf
8 villagers
wolf
2 villagers
wolf

How will the draft work?

I am assuming this is not a truly traditional game as the draft means either that A- the teams are even and/or B- you know who is on both sides.

Count me as pending. :)

The draft will be behind the scenes. Most likely, the GMs will simply send me a preference list. The draft order will be fair, although the details have not been finalized. After I close signups, the 2 GMs will send me a preference list, also including their choices for whatever additional roles their teams have - seer, brutal wolf, etc.

After the game is over, the draft will be publicized.

Dola, the teams will not be EVEN in terms of number. The wolves will be a minority.

Sounds intriguing. I'm probably in, depending on the dates and additional details and rules :)

In

I can be picked last for dodgeball, my pride can handle it. That said, I want in! :)

You will get picked before me!

Depending on the afternoon deadline I am in!

Tentative deadline will be 3pm eastern time.

Off to work but I'll be on again tonight!

IN!

IN!

#20 overall ppick signing in!

in

If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.

My Wife is in - Mrs. Schmidty!!

Oh, she already posted. heh.

In, please.

Good to see the two of you communicating so well ;)

What about you??

In.

Will the GMs also be in the game? If so, I am guessing we don't know who they are?

I'd also like to play

The GMs will not be in the game, and will not be allowed to post in thread or pm with players, but I can't think of a reason why who is the GM for a particular side shouldn't be public knowledge.

I'm in and for the GMs being public. I think it adds an interesting psych twist for the villagers to try and think how the wolf GM would pick. Also, villager GM: It's been my dream to have a role as a villager, a good one like seer or BG. If you can accomodate mucho gracias.

I'm thinking about it. I was a bit burned out after the last game, and kind of bummed out because I think the balance was off, so I'm pretty sure it wasn't that enjoyable for the players.

Actually, I think that's evident with the fact that st. cronin is doing the "no random.org" thing. I'm pretty sure there were some behind-the-scenes rumbling, which resulted in that.

Anyway, I might play. If I do, I'm pretty sure I'll be a last pick, since everyone knows that I'm the worst player, even with others attempting to claim my well-earned and long-held title. :)

Actually I have been planning this gimmick for about 2 months or more. I have no idea what happened in your game except that apparently the students won. :)

oh no you didnt!

this will be interestign!

in

I wasn't trying to sound whiny or accuse you of something, I'm just moody. ;)

Since I have now gotten affirmation from both of them, the GMs can be announced:

Poli will be picking for the village.
Hoopsguy will be picking for the wolves.

I would like signups to run through the daytime on Monday, so the draft will run either Monday pm, or Tuesday before noonish. If those two can't do it live, we'll do it via preference lists.

Closer to draft time I'll publish a list of positions they'll need to fill.

I'm glad you announced this, but I was assuming this part anyways :D

someone is predjudiced!

I can vouch for that -- he pimmed me the idea a while ago.

Oh, and yes the students won, but don't forget the major victory for the Private Eye!

Clearly you don't know Poli very well :eek:

It's good to know my skeletons have remained hidden.

this looks like fun...in

Correct, never met him - just going on the current bias that "hoops is always a wolf" :)

Eh. I'll be in.

let the battle for # 1 begin!

(X)- I do not think Schmidty is anywhere near as bad as me!

Come on man. I really am. The only time I've done well is when I was UTR, and got lucky on a block. I am also decent as a wolf because I am so quiet.

I'm just not good at analysis. It could be because I'm lazy, or the fact that play so many other games. Or it could just be that I suck. I'm thinking the latter is true.

By the way, players are absolutely permitted to petition Poli and hoops for particular roles, either in thread or via pm.

Cronin, are you going to publish, either publicly or privately (for GMs), a list of the roles prior to the draft?

Yes. It will actually be two lists - one a public list, the other a more detailed private list for gms only. Some of the roles will have limitations that will not be public knowledge, but the GMs will mostly know as much abut the roles as I do.

For now the plan is to definitely have the following roles in the game:

Seer
Bodyguard
Duke
Vanilla Villager
Sorceror (wolf who scans for seer)
Cunning wolf
Brutal wolf

There are other roles which may be added depending on the number of players. Also, some of those roles may be used more than once, and you can count on at least one of them not quite working the way you expect it to.

I enjoyed the game, FWIW. I don't think it was unbalanced so much as the wolves ran into some bad luck.

I'm more interested in seeing how they think rather than push for a specific thing.

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Wolves probably have as much right to complain as anyone if you're right Schmidty, but I said it there, and I'll say it here: I had a great time. I know Alan did, too. I can't speak for the other wolves, but I didn't hear any complaints. So while I agree that there might have been some balance tweaking that could have been done, by and large it was a successful and fun game for all, in which, unfortunately, the wolves ran into some bad luck (and the villagers played very well).

I'll play.

I accept paypal.

Poli, can I be the duke? I have never, ever been a duke in something like 40 games of werewolf. K, thx.

yeah, that hoops is always a wolf

I'd like the poster formerly know as AE to make me just a vanilla villager...thanks

dola, and I realize that makes me a pretty low pick and my ego can handle that :)

Count me in.

So, 17 players so far? I guess that entitles me to what, about 6-7 wolves?

Will GMs be able to post?

Sadly, no. I would like to taunt all of the hapless villagers, but that option won't be available to me.

Although if you guys end up clowning my team I guess you have every right to mock me in the thread.

Lame.

Sign me up.

I would like to be a wolf please

You got it. Everyone, please ignore posts #63 and #64.

I guess that gets my first pick out of the way. Poli is on the clock.

Remember, please do not look at posts #63 and #64 if you have any integrity. K, thx.

VOTE LATHUM

Sorry, guys - had to be done.

:D

What the...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very disappointing. I guess we know who will be the brutal wolf kill now.

Lathum you should have spoiler tagged that. If they looked then they were just asking for the game to be ruined.

I'll play.

I probably wouldn't take anything I say (pre-draft, of course) all that seriously.

Fixed.:deadhorse:

You're the best, RendeR :)

What time is the "afternoon deadline"? We're PST, and my wife doesn't have internet access at work.

I didn't take it seriously Hoops...hence the big grinning smilie after my "vote". I figured everyone would know I was joking, but I guess not...

I'll play. Just got back in town from the weekend!

I've never been to the weekend. Is it affordable?

As of now, it will be noon pacific time.

No gas prices are crazy. I would stick to the weekday if I were you.

That's so weird -- I was planning a trip there myself in about five days!

I wouldn't recommend sticking a steak knife into your left index finger. It hurts quite a bit.

Nah, man, its all you, YOU'RE the man hoops, all you dude.:lol::lol::lol::lol:

No editing! Sheesh! :D

Fine. I recommend you stick a steak knife in your finger, then.

;)

Affordable is debatable, but damn if my weekend didn't try to drown me.


Went camping at a local state park and telle took the kids for a birthday party saturday nd to give me a day to myself to relax. Everything was great, walked the nature trail, enjoyed the sun...till about 5:30....then it appears the gods were angry with the park as a 2 hour long severe thunderstorm wracked the entire place with thumb sized rain drops and lightning and 40-50 mph winds.

Even after that part died down it rained until sometime after midnight.

And there I sat in my dampened tent cursing the fact that I traded my ARK tickets for this damned camp site.....

For the lack of any better place to post this.. One thing I did not expect to see while on vacation..

A native Canadian (not sure what they are called in Canada, but the equivalent to a native american that lives in Canada), in the middle of Montreal wearing a Dirk Nowitski basketball jersey.

Not that it is a huge deal, just not really something I expected to see in Montreal. :)

Just realized that I'm way booked this week. I need to drop out.

That's rough.

I have to pass :( My brother is getting married on Saturday and I have my daughter for two months, this is our first full week with her living at my house...prolly too distracting for me to be involved...

Tentative list of roles and rules:

Roles and additional rules (some of these will be posted in the thread, some will only be revealed to the player with the role, some will be known only to us three:

Villager roles

Seer
Fake Seer (thinks he's the seer, but isn't - revealed as seer upon death)
Spy (can follow one player per night - if he follows the wolf making the kill, he can id the wolf)
Bodyguard
2 Masons (no pm rights, and are not allowed to reveal upon pain of death)
Duke
Philosopher (scans for the cultist)
Hunter (Villagers win if he is one of the last two players)

Wolf roles

Cunning wolf (scans as villager)
Brutal wolf
cultist (counts as a villager, wins with the wolves, knows the wolves but has no pm rights - selected by the wolf team)
Sorceror (scans for the seer)
Regular wolf

Only the cunning wolf can kill any player - all other wolves may only kill a player who has voted for them that day. The wolves may kill 1 player per night.

I will forgo my final eligibility at work and declare myself eligible for the draft.

Does the fake seer get an opposite scan or completely random or what?

what is a mason?

That's for me (also hoops and Poli) to know.

The masons are 2 or more villagers who start out the game knowing each others role. In some games, they have pm rights as well, but not this one - its simply a voting advantage for the village.

Any conversion rules?

There are no conversions.

is no vote or no lynch an option?

Are roles revealed upon death?

It's been a damn long time since I have joined a game, so if there is still a spot open - I wouldn't mind joining :)