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JetsIn06 11-04-2008 07:01 PM

Obama wins CT

JetsIn06 11-04-2008 07:02 PM

and DEL

Racer 11-04-2008 07:03 PM

MSNBC called Pennsylvania for Obama but that's probably like Fox News calling West Virginia for McCain.

JetsIn06 11-04-2008 07:03 PM

DC, MD, NJ, MA also called, although those aren't surprises at all.

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1879302)
NBC just called Pennsylvania for Obama.



Umm...wow. They called New Hamshire as well, when CNN has not.

Lathum 11-04-2008 07:03 PM

MSNBC just called PA for Obama

Galaxy 11-04-2008 07:03 PM

Obama:

Massachusetts
Connecticut
New York
Delaware
Vermont
Pennsylvania
Maryland
Illinois
D.C.
New Jersey
Maine

McCain:
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Kentucky
South Carolina

Lathum 11-04-2008 07:03 PM

MSNBC basicly just said Obama won the election

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetsIn06 (Post 1879308)
and DEL




We've already discussed that. It doesn't exist, so don't bring it up again.

terpkristin 11-04-2008 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1879314)
MSNBC basicly just said Obama won the election


Yeah but it's MSNBC, you have to take it with a grain of salt. Same thing with FOX.

/tk

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1879314)
MSNBC basicly just said Obama won the election



They did that in about March.

JetsIn06 11-04-2008 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 1879315)
We've already discussed that. It doesn't exist, so don't bring it up again.


lol

Galaxy 11-04-2008 07:05 PM

MSNBC jerks off to Obama, just like Fox does with Bush/McCain.

JeeberD 11-04-2008 07:05 PM

Fox says Tenn to McCain.

JeeberD 11-04-2008 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1879313)
Obama:

Massachusetts
Connecticut
New York
Delaware
Vermont
Pennsylvania
Maryland
Illinois
D.C.
New Jersey
Maine

McCain:
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Kentucky
South Carolina


Fox called WV for McCain earlier as well.

Galaxy 11-04-2008 07:08 PM

Obama:

Massachusetts
Connecticut
New York
Delaware
Vermont
Pennsylvania
Maryland
Illinois
D.C.
New Jersey
Maine

McCain:
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Kentucky
South Carolina
West Virginia

Galaxy 11-04-2008 07:09 PM

Dole lost to Hagan in North Carolina.

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 07:10 PM

So, basically CNN is breaking down the rural counties in several states showing that Obama is out performing Kerry in the areas Bush won. Changes from 60-40 Bush/Kerry to 53-47 McCain/Obama will kill McCain.

Maple Leafs 11-04-2008 07:13 PM

By the sounds of it, CNN just had a live interview with the girl who works at my McDonalds drive thru.

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 07:14 PM

Okay I'm here

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1879328)
By the sounds of it, CNN just had a live interview with the girl who works at my McDonalds drive thru.



Yeah. She even asked "Want fries with that?"

Greyroofoo 11-04-2008 07:15 PM

Well Biden can rest easy, he won his senate race!

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1879330)
Okay I'm here



Glad you're here. We were just discussing Wolf Blitzers dreamy beard.

Tigercat 11-04-2008 07:16 PM

I know its early, but based on what is in so far, I wouldn't be surprised to see Florida go to Obama and Virginia go to McCain. Which is the opposite of what the trends predicted. (And would be a good trade for Obama obviously.)

sabotai 11-04-2008 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1879325)
Dole lost to Hagan in North Carolina.


Good (if only because of that insane ad).

Also of note, that was Jesse Helms' seat, according to some guy on Fox News.

Celeval 11-04-2008 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1879325)
Dole lost to Hagan in North Carolina.


Who's calling that race?

Galaxy 11-04-2008 07:18 PM

I didn't realize that Massachusetts has a ballot question of "Abolish dog racing?".

JediKooter 11-04-2008 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fantom1979 (Post 1879287)
I am guessing that not a lot of Capital Police officers will be voting for her.


Haha! nice.

JeeberD 11-04-2008 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celeval (Post 1879340)
Who's calling that race?


Fox did...

sabotai 11-04-2008 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celeval (Post 1879340)
Who's calling that race?


I've been flipping around. The people talking on Fox News a few minutes ago were talking as if Hagan won, so I guess Fox News called it.

mauchow 11-04-2008 07:20 PM

101 million votes in 2000 and 121 million votes in 2004. How many in 2008?

Galaxy 11-04-2008 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai (Post 1879346)
I've been flipping around. The people talking on Fox News a few minutes ago were talking as if Hagan won, so I guess Fox News called it.


They had it at 60-39 or something when I saw it.

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 07:22 PM

yeah - i voted to abolish dog racing - i like dogs

and i voted to decriminalize pot possession (well, make it a fine vs. jailtime)

Celeval 11-04-2008 07:24 PM

Hagan/Dole: Good to know, we're watching CNN. It's a pretty wide split, but that's a similar Dem/Rep split as the presidential and governor races, so didn't think it was good enough to call yet.

JetsIn06 11-04-2008 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1879351)
yeah - i voted to abolish dog racing - i like dogs

and i voted to decriminalize pot possession (well, make it a fine vs. jailtime)


You are a good man, DT. Dog racing is really messed up.

SirFozzie 11-04-2008 07:26 PM

BBC says that 97% of (eligible) African Americans in GA voted. Wow. (if I heard that right)

Galaxy 11-04-2008 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1879351)
yeah - i voted to abolish dog racing - i like dogs

and i voted to decriminalize pot possession (well, make it a fine vs. jailtime)


I agree with you. I was just surprised that it was an actual ballot question for citizens to vote on. I know the big one in Mass. is repealing the income tax.

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetsIn06 (Post 1879355)
You are a good man, DT. Dog racing is really messed up.



If you think it is hard on the dogs, imagine how hard it is on the jockeys!

Axxon 11-04-2008 07:27 PM

I haven't seen this posted but google has a really cool election map that allows you to scroll over states and check voting by counties.

hxxp://www.google.com/intl/en_us/2008election/

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 1879359)
BBC says that 97% of African Americans in GA voted. Wow. (if I heard that right)


That would only be a couple points higher than normal.

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetsIn06 (Post 1879355)
You are a good man, DT. Dog racing is really messed up.


I hates it. So does my puppy.

Arles 11-04-2008 07:28 PM

Just got in and it does seem that Black Panther issue was much ado about nothing. That's a good thing (even though it means I was wrong earlier ;) )

Alan T 11-04-2008 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1879351)
yeah - i voted to abolish dog racing - i like dogs

and i voted to decriminalize pot possession (well, make it a fine vs. jailtime)



I voted the same way. I also made my wife really mad by voting yes on prop #1 as well. (I voted yes on all three)

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axxon (Post 1879363)
I haven't seen this posted but google has a really cool election map that allows you to scroll over states and check voting by counties.

hxxp://www.google.com/intl/en_us/2008election/


yeah - i'm checking it out

SirFozzie 11-04-2008 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arles (Post 1879367)
Just got in and it does seem that Black Panther issue was much ado about nothing. That's a good thing (even though it means I was wrong earlier ;) )


At least you admit it, Arlie. You're cool :)

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 07:30 PM

CNN calls NH for Obama

Galaxy 11-04-2008 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1879368)
I voted the same way. I also made my wife really mad by voting yes on prop #1 as well. (I voted yes on all three)


Your wife likes to pay taxes for a bloated, mismanaged government?

sabotai 11-04-2008 07:31 PM

MSNBC calls Hagan-Dole race (projecting Hagan will win)

terpkristin 11-04-2008 07:32 PM

Any Maryland-er's? I was wondering how the slots vote was going...

/tk

Arles 11-04-2008 07:32 PM

Fox just called PA for Obama. That means an Obama win is all but certain now.

Noop 11-04-2008 07:32 PM

Man the feeling on campus has been electric, I think I might get some nookie because of Obama.....seriously.

This is historical and I am so happy that I am wrong about America, although there are still people (on both sides) who are racially bias(for lack of a better term) it is not all people.

Next step is a college football playoff.

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1879372)
Your wife likes to pay taxes for a bloated, mismanaged government?


that's a messed-up viewpoint though. because the taxes are going to have to come from somewhere. so if it's not income tax it'll be property tax and a nice big salestax add-on

Alan T 11-04-2008 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1879372)
Your wife likes to pay taxes for a bloated, mismanaged government?



My wife was a school teacher before her illness, and currently is working on getting licensed for school psychology. Local governments have already said very clearly if prop #1 passes, teacher salaries will be cut. My personal belief is they shouldn't cut teacher salaries and instead should look at increasing local property taxes if need be. I am not against paying taxes. I am against paying taxes for Boston or Springfield improvements that I never see or care about.

mauchow 11-04-2008 07:33 PM

McCain coming back in the popular vote...lol

Galaxy 11-04-2008 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noop (Post 1879377)
Man the feeling on campus has been electric, I think I might get some nookie because of Obama.....seriously.

This is historical and I am so happy that I am wrong about America, although there are still people (on both sides) who are racially bias(for lack of a better term) it is not all people.

Next step is a college football playoff.


So if Obama doesn't win, America is racist?

Alan T 11-04-2008 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1879378)
that's a messed-up viewpoint though. because the taxes are going to have to come from somewhere. so if it's not income tax it'll be property tax and a nice big salestax add-on


I have no problem with more local taxes if needed to supply worthwhile local benefits. Right now most of my taxes go to the big dig or who knows what corruption in Boston. I am tired of it.

SirFozzie 11-04-2008 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1879372)
Your wife likes to pay taxes for a bloated, mismanaged government?


No, but imagine the government of MA trying to find $12 billion a year to fund everything.

Groundhog 11-04-2008 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1879382)
So if Obama doesn't win, America is racist?


Racist AND stupid. ;)

Noop 11-04-2008 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1879382)
So if Obama doesn't win, America is racist?


Nope.

Axxon 11-04-2008 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noop (Post 1879377)

Next step is a college football playoff.



C'mon man, don't get carried away. Be realistic. :p

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1879382)
So if Obama doesn't win, America is racist?



Stop baiting. That is not what he said.

sabotai 11-04-2008 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1879368)
I voted the same way. I also made my wife really mad by voting yes on prop #1 as well. (I voted yes on all three)


CNN is already projecting "No" on Mass. Prop 1.

DeToxRox 11-04-2008 07:37 PM

McCain really appeals to that SEC speed.

Noop 11-04-2008 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axxon (Post 1879388)
C'mon man, don't get carried away. Be realistic. :p


It will happen.

SackAttack 11-04-2008 07:37 PM

I'm surprised that they're calling Georgia already.

gstelmack 11-04-2008 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1879325)
Dole lost to Hagan in North Carolina.


Great. Head of the budget committee when NC blew out its surplus and massively increased spending, just what we need in Washington...

DeToxRox 11-04-2008 07:39 PM

Bring back the Whigs.

sabotai 11-04-2008 07:40 PM

(I guess this is now the "election thread" to discuss all things going on in this election?)

The Florida Amendment to ban gay marriage is holding at 60% with 32% reporting (it needs 60% to pass)

Arles 11-04-2008 07:41 PM

I don't think any state has changed hands yet, right? I'm guessing New Mexico or Iowa might be the first.

Swaggs 11-04-2008 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gstelmack (Post 1879396)
Great. Head of the budget committee when NC blew out its surplus and massively increased spending, just what we need in Washington...


I kind of think this one is more of a "yay" or "nay" vote on Dole rather than votes for Hagan.

JetsIn06 11-04-2008 07:41 PM

CNN finally reports PA for Obama. Woo!

Galaxy 11-04-2008 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 1879384)
No, but imagine the government of MA trying to find $12 billion a year to fund everything.


I thought the plan would be implemented over several years. If it's going to be implement right away, than I think it's a stupid idea that way.

Arles 11-04-2008 07:42 PM

Fox just called Chambliss as a winner.

JonInMiddleGA 11-04-2008 07:42 PM

Had to do a doubletake walking past the TV a few minutes ago. FXNC had the popular vote running total on the screen & for a second I thought they had typo'ed something & put the same number twice. I can't quote the exact numbers but at that point with 15 million votes tabulated the two were separated by 3,000 votes. That'd be 0.02% difference.

Obviously it won't hold up that way but I thought it was just a neat moment in time to see that big a number divided that closely.

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SackAttack (Post 1879394)
I'm surprised that they're calling Georgia already.



Who did?

Autumn 11-04-2008 07:43 PM

Afghan Whigs? I don't know about that.

DeToxRox 11-04-2008 07:46 PM

I know this has been said a lot but ..

I need to see Sarah Palin in fishnet stockings.

Young Drachma 11-04-2008 07:46 PM

Interesting that the main Socialist candidate picked a 23-year old as her running mate. Not as if being a socialist party candidate for VP would be a real resume booster, tho.

Party for Socialism and Liberation: Meet Eugene Puryear

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 1879412)
I know this has been said a lot but ..

I need to see Sarah Palin in fishnet stockings.



Not a bad idea...

QuikSand 11-04-2008 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terpkristin (Post 1879375)
Any Maryland-er's? I was wondering how the slots vote was going...

/tk


I haven't gotten anything meaningful on actual returns yet tonight, but from the last round of polling (including a couple unreleased ones) it looks like it ought to pass by roughly 5-8%.

Noop 11-04-2008 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 1879412)
I know this has been said a lot but ..

I need to see Sarah Palin in fishnet stockings.


I hope she goes back to Alaska.

SirFozzie 11-04-2008 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arles (Post 1879399)
I don't think any state has changed hands yet, right? I'm guessing New Mexico or Iowa might be the first.


ABC has (Apparently) called FL for Obama, per Greyroofoo earlier. Trying to get confirmation.

Alan T 11-04-2008 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1879403)
I thought the plan would be implemented over several years. If it's going to be implement right away, than I think it's a stupid idea that way.


No, it would cut personal income tax by 2.65% for income gained in 2009, and then remove it entirely for income gained in 2010, so not immediate.

QuikSand 11-04-2008 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arles (Post 1879404)
Fox just called Chambliss as a winner.


...or rather as the victor in this contest. Let's not get carried away there.

Autumn 11-04-2008 07:49 PM

Do people actually find Palin hot? I keep seeing headlines and jokes that suggest that's true, but so far I've passed it off as urban legend.

DeToxRox 11-04-2008 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noop (Post 1879417)
I hope she goes back to Alaska.


I'd shave 20 years off my life for a Sarah Palin sex tape.

King Alaskan Crabs - The Sarah Palin Sex Show

Galaxy 11-04-2008 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 1879418)
ABC has (Apparently) called FL for Obama, per Greyroofoo earlier. Trying to get confirmation.


I haven't seen it called by anyone else yet.

JonInMiddleGA 11-04-2008 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arles (Post 1879404)
Fox just called Chambliss as a winner.


Seems a little early to me, at least based on the county by county numbers I'm looking at. But they could very well have access to numbers that haven't been posted by the Sec. of State yet too.

JetsIn06 11-04-2008 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 1879418)
ABC has (Apparently) called FL for Obama, per Greyroofoo earlier. Trying to get confirmation.


It's awfully close. 42% reported....2,537,179 for Obama, 2,363,124 for McCain

cartman 11-04-2008 07:51 PM

Looks like the PUMA threat was more of a K-Swiss threat.

Galaxy 11-04-2008 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 1879422)
Do people actually find Palin hot? I keep seeing headlines and jokes that suggest that's true, but so far I've passed it off as urban legend.


Miss Alaska 1984

cartman 11-04-2008 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetsIn06 (Post 1879427)
It's awfully close. 42% reported....2,537,179 for Obama, 2,363,124 for McCain


yeah, but the places that have reported already were pretty solid for Bush 4 years ago.

Tigercat 11-04-2008 07:52 PM

Yea, calling Chambliss a winner at this point is hard to believe, unless they feel they have some EXCELLENT exit polls.

Chambliss should win outright tonight though.

SackAttack 11-04-2008 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 1879406)
Who did?


Watching the streaming MSNBC feed, and they called both Alabama and Georgia for McCain after holding off for about 15 minutes.

Swaggs 11-04-2008 07:53 PM

If the networks call Florida, does that have a big effect on Western state voters? I wonder if some will stay home if the race appears to be decided...

DeToxRox 11-04-2008 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1879429)
Miss Alaska 1984


Seriously, I dunno why but I wanna cum on her glasses.

I think shes hot as fuck and she's ditzy, so I know she has to be good in bed.

Galaxy 11-04-2008 07:53 PM

68 people reading this thread right now.

Galaxy 11-04-2008 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 1879437)
Seriously, I dunno why but I wanna cum on her glasses.

I think shes hot as fuck and she's ditzy, so I know she has to be good in bed.


Nothing like a little crazy chick in bed.

Karlifornia 11-04-2008 07:55 PM

Did anyone notice that the Libertarian candidate is actually a cartoon elephant?

sabotai 11-04-2008 07:56 PM

Sarah Palin has a square jaw.


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