He didn't get fired. He left ESPN for MSNBC.

I watch MSNBC (and CNBC) because they have the hottest women (except Rachel Maddow, she's not very hot, but the rest are)

It's always nice when they bring Erin Brunett over from CNBC for an interview.

Obama could travel the state handing out a billion dollars cash & you still wouldn't get black voters to turn out for a statewide run off here.

Only scenario where Chambliss loses a run off is if the (R) voters are even more disheartened than they already are. I can see where a filibuster proof D majority in the Senate (without this race) could do that but otherwise, having already dealt with the loss & it's likely ramifications I don't see the mood getting much worse than it already is.

The ending to that was awesome.

Really? Why not? Obama himself going down and saying, vote for Martin, I'm going to do (insert pol speak here) with his help won't work?

I'm confused.

Looks like the Philly/Black Panther thing was no big deal after all

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Man asked to leave Philly polling place « - Blogs from CNN.com

I'm sorry, but if Obama came to me and gave me a billion dollars cash to vote for Martin....I'm voting for Martin for everything I can.

In a runoff, if the Dems have 58 Senators, Martin wins. If the Dems have 59 Senators, Chambliss wins.

Wouldn't make a damn.

-- Martin ain't Obama

-- Obama appears to have worked a near miracle in generating the turnout he got. Lightning doesn't strike twice in the same place that often.

-- Most importantly, watch the vote count tonight at the top of the ballot vs the Senate race just a spot or two down (One spot lower maybe? I can't remember off the top of my head). See the gap in votes cast, realize the number of people who didn't give a big enough shit about Chambliss v Martin while they had the ballot in front of them to cast a vote. You really think they're making another trip to the polls for that race?

Best political story of the season. Some of the tickers at the bottom were priceless...

The way I see it:

Pennsylvania goes Obama: Obama fans can be cautiously optimistic.

Pennsylvania goes McCain: McCain fans can be uncautiously optimistic.

Virginia goes McCain: McCain fans can be cautiously optimistic.

Virginia goes Obama: Obama fans can be uncautiously optimistic.


And given that it looks like Virginia ballot-counting might now drag on:

North Carolina goes Obama: Obama fans can go wildly optimistic and start rioting in Chicago. I can go to sleep (providing the little one cooperates).

Awesome :D

SI

Here's an interesting article from an election official. Kinda interesting to see all the behind the scenes stuff that goes on.

The True Confessions of an Election Official • The Register

I think the "people voting for Obama because he's black" sentiment (and I imagine that affects not just black voters) is more along the lines of "people voting for McCain because he's a maverick" factor. People make up their minds, or get excited about, candidates for a variety of vague psychological reasons. Most of them don't look hard at the issues. Little phrases or thoughts like this that gain momentum get people's votes.

This was an interesting note on the Huffington Post (I take it that was your source). The problem was they cherry picked a week when O'Reilly was on vacation and not hosting (1st week of June). Here's the info:

For the month of June, O’Reilly beat out Olbermann in the 25 to 54 demographic, averaging 534,000 viewers to 408,000 for “Countdown.” In total viewers, “The Factor” was the leading program on cable news, averaging 2,497,000 viewers a night, while “Countdown” had less than half that many, 1,098,000.

Just adding a little balance (and I don't watch either program, just wanted to correct the record ;) ).

OK, I give up, I can't read all the posts I missed. :) I got through some of them, though.


I sent Wade a text with that one - Go Obama!

I also cheered for McCain saying, "He. Could. Go. All. The. Way!" That was a great line.


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Why do you believe it is much more prevalent on the Dem side? There are heaps of examples (from biased groups) that there was widespread fraud on the Republican side in 2004. I think it's pretty much equal (with no statistical evidence).

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OK. So, I voted for Obama. I am somewhat hoping that he loses so that people saying there will be riots are proven wrong. Maybe I am just a liberal (although I'm not very liberal) jumping on the bandwagon, but that claim seems incredibly racist to me.

No, he left to go to Fox Sports, but it was an ugly leave.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081103/D9478CM05.html

Giant banners unfolding up Rockefeller Plaza? WTF?

I had to read this twice to make sure it was from The Onion.

This is not surprising. Conservative talk show hosts (or whatever you want to call O'Reilly and Olbermann) always do better than liberal talk show hosts.

If you're right about the first part, the second part will definitely be true. I just can't picture significant numbers of first-time political voters/Obama supporters ditching the rest of their ballots (and/or voting significant R).

I'll watch for those totals tonight.

How so? The two were able to intimidate voters for hours (check out the video on Fox). I take it if a few hooligans were standing in front of polls with KKK garb and a club all morning and afternoon, you would be OK with it as long as they left by 2-3 PM?

Nah, it's actually been over the past couple of weeks. Olbermann has been touting it on his show and O'Reilly even made some comments on his about how the process was flawed. Which, of course, Olbermann played up to make O'Reilly look like a conspiratorial nut.

SI

Stop being silly. He never said he was "OK with it", he just said it was "no big deal."

In fact, his direct quote in response to the story was:


The "no big deal" comment was in regards to the fact that the Philadelphia District Attorney's office, said the office is not investigating the matter, calling it a "non-incident." Abookire says, "We have had no complaints from any voters that they have been intimidated."

I'll give you a benchmark to work from,
Bush/Gore and Miller/Mattingly from 2000.
2,583,208 Presidential votes cast in GA, 2,428,242 Senate votes cast.
About 6% fewer.

Bush/Kerry and Isaakson/Majette from 2004
3,298,798 Pres. votes in GA, 3,220,951 Senate votes cast
About 2.3% fewer.

I'll predict tonight's number is closer to 10% than 6%.

Not sure if anyone cares but....

I just votes...during the primaries I voted at 6pm and i was voter #129

Today I voted at approximately 445pm...and I was #1232

Thank you

so who won

I did.

corporations

The terrorists.
And people who hate kittens.

cool i'm going to sleep now

i'm still at work though so i'll be under my desk. someone call me in like 6 hours so i can get up and go home

aight peace

what do you want me to call you?

sexy chester pls thx

From a local article (Sheboygan)

'“I just like the way (Obama) presents himself, his ideas,” said Eisold, who voted for Bush four years ago. “Something about John McCain — I don’t know. If you run for president three, four times and you don’t get it, there’s got to be something wrong. … I just don’t think with McCain it would change at all.”

Um.. huh? I miss something???

Far as I know, he ran in 2000 in the Republican primaries and was a possible VP selection in 96.

Barack?

Actually, this isn't far from what I do. I watch Fox primarily, but turn it over to MSNBC from time to time, because I know that there are stories unflattering to the Republicans which won't get much or any coverage on Fox.

That said, Olberman is barely tolerable most nights, and really I only "enjoy" watching him when he's on one of his "I'm right you're wrong, conservatives are evil and it's patently obvious" rants, and shaking, and gritting his teeth.

The short haired annoying as hell sarcastic mean spirited bitch that follows his show is thoroughly unwatchable though, not even for amusement sake.

Dayum.

(as dayum as you can get on an internet message board)

My 6 and 4 year old daughters came into the room and asked me just now what was so funny. I am unable to explain the joke to them.

Ping Arlie:

Would you like your crow baked or fried? And will you, Fox and Drudge be dining together or seperately? (oh, and for your KKK reference, seems the place he was at is in a 95% black district, so if anything, he was disenfranchising blacks, not whites)

Ben Smith's Blog: Panther vs. Obama - Politico.com

But a reader sends over a link to clinch the deal: The Panther in question appears to be one King Shamir Shabazz -- and he's no Obama supporter.

"[Obama] is a puppet on a string. I don't support no black man running for white politics. I will not vote for who will be the next slavemaster," he told the Philadelphia Daily News a few days ago, one of the least crazy things he said amid some straightforwardly racist riffs.

CNN had the first preliminary results from counties in Indiana (Obama slight lead), and Kentucky (MCCain, decent lead) that polls closed in at 6:00 PM. It has begun.

Who do you think has the best, unbiased, and most exciting coverage to watch? It's not the same without Russert.

Vigo County, Indiana.

In 2004, Bush won the county 53/46.

This year, with 69% of precincts reporting so far, Obama is up by 15.

According to Wiki, "the county is one of the best bellwether regions for voting U.S. presidential elections; it has voted for the winning candidate in every election since 1960".

Bodes VERY well for Indiana.

So far it's close.

CNN calls Kentucky for McCain, Vermont for Obama.

8-3 McCain in electoral votes for those two states

I feel like I'm watching the NFL Draft. :)

The old guy on the board at CNN, yeah, he needs to go. I can't watch that with his annoying presentation style.

Who won the Virginia Senate seat?

Warner was projected as winner by MSNBC and CNN.

McCain looks to be pulling away in Indiana

To liven up the day...YouTube - If The Other Party Wins

It is work safe.

(sorry, was not able to embed it)

aIndiana just flipped again

Pat Buchannon just compared Obama to FDR, and this might be that big a shift for the Democratic party. Strange.

He currently has a two point lead based on voted entirely culled from rural counties, all of which are voting way (5-10%) down from what they did for Bush in '04... just wait until Marion/Lake county starts to trickle in.

If Obama can stay within 2 in Indiana, it means it is very likely tonight will break like the polls predicted.

Ha, CNN going all Jedi ghost hologram with its reporters.

Did CNN just "beam" a correspondent in? WTF?!

thats pretty sweet

The big thing is to see what counties are reporting.

hxxp://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/individual/#mapPIN

Marion and Lake counties are typically both big Democratic counties and neither county has reported any results. St. Joseph county (South Bend area) is also a democratic county by Indiana standards, but I heard on TV that Bush won the county by one or two percent in 2004. Right now Obama is up 64% to 35% with a third of the precincts reporting.

MSNBC's night coverage is a good bit more biased liberally than their coverage was for the most of the day. Not sure how much longer I can tolerate this station tonight.

that may be the dumbest thing i've ever seen.

Save us Wolf Blitzer, you're our only hope!

You know, I'm not gay or anything, but don't you just want to run your fingers through his beard.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying...

What, having a reporter in the same shot as the studio isn't worth setting up a tent for three weeks and a handful of ungodly expensive cameras?

CNN.com Election 2004

I've been going back and forth with the '04 map results in comparison to this years, and I have to say, its looking very good for Obama in Indiana right now.

Truer words have never been said.

And it looks worse than in Star Wars.

Star Wars did set the bar pretty high.

Fox just called West Virginia for McCain...

Sorry, just wanted post 10,000 in this thread.

To make it political.... McCain with the early 8-3 lead going into the 2nd inning, but the Democrats have the middle of the lineup up in the next inning.

Interesting to see how red Indiana was in 2004 compared to the results so far. Looking promising for Obama.

Dola-

So far Virginia and Florida are looking good for McCain as well...

Oh, darn.

CNN is showing Florida early Obama 48 McCain 34. What happened to the other 18%? Pat Buchannon.

Yeah, but you got the 10,000th reply, Karl.

Riiiiiight.

Obama just jumped McCain in FL by 100K votes

Good call. One Shiner Bock for you.

how are there almost 1 million votes from Florida yet they are reporting only 2% of precincts hace reported in.

Let me tell you, I barely watched any TV in my week in Florida last week due to all the damned political ads...

That's essentially the Miami-Dade votes coming in. Would love to see how the rest of the State falls.

I can picture a bunch of FOFCers with boners watching the TV, while other FOFCers sit watching the TV reaching for tissues.

Actually both groups need tissues, just for different reasons.

And then you got people like me who will be playing Civ4 instead of putting up with more partisan bullshit. :)

Who the heck is voting for McKinney? Wow.

I am guessing that not a lot of Capital Police officers will be voting for her.

Fox just called South Carolina for McCain...

...

As did NBC News. 16-3 McCain. But Nationally, so far, Obama has 54% of the national vote.

Obama up 100,000 votes in NC according to CNN.com

South Carolina goes to McCain (CNN).

A bizarre and amusing threadjack attempt, to be sure.

So far:

McCain (16):
South Carolina (8)
Kentucky (8)

Obama (3):
Vermont (3)

CNN just made a lot of projections.

Fox calls a slew of NE states for Obama...

CNN just called New England for Obama.

NBC just called Pennsylvania for Obama.

so did Fox

PA getting called for Obama right at the close of polls (per NBC) -- that's really big.

MSNBC calls Pennsylvania!