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kingfc22 04-20-2018 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panerd (Post 3202293)
The DNC already coming up with brilliant strategies to blow what should be a cakewalk 2018 mid-term.


Seriously. Dumbest move they could possibly make.

Just sit back and let the house burn down

PilotMan 04-20-2018 02:04 PM

It's fucking idiotic. Terrible strategy.

cuervo72 04-20-2018 02:39 PM

Trump lied to me about his wealth to get onto the Forbes 400. Here are the tapes.

The CIA Says Mike Pompeo Didn't Fight in the Gulf War

Just add 'em to the pile of little white lies.

JPhillips 04-20-2018 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panerd (Post 3202293)
The DNC already coming up with brilliant strategies to blow what should be a cakewalk 2018 mid-term.


I can't imagine any voters will change their vote based on this lawsuit. By next week we'll forget all about it.

Julio Riddols 04-20-2018 02:47 PM

The democratic party has turned into a bunch of litigious SJW types, its a little overboard. Its a real shame their strategy is often such a shitty one because I think if they just completely separated themselves from the petty bullshit and spoke directly to the people about what they are going to do to fix things and why that will work, they would probably get over pretty damn good in this climate.

What hurts them is finger pointing and crying "He's hitting me mom!" instead of figuring out how to get revenge on big brother the proper way.

tarcone 04-20-2018 05:33 PM

Greitens just charged with Felony tampering with computer data.

Thats 2 felonies in a few months.

What a quality guy.

NobodyHere 04-20-2018 05:38 PM

Is Greitens trying to get the Republican Presidential nomination for 2020?

PilotMan 04-20-2018 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tarcone (Post 3202313)

What a quality guy.


There's probably good people on both sides.

Edward64 04-21-2018 05:31 AM

So possibly the missing link and explanation on the Putin-Trump relationship - video sextape!

(pure speculation of course)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ts-yes-n867951
Quote:

President Donald Trump told former FBI Director James Comey that he didn’t stay in Russia overnight during his 2013 visit to the country — part of his explanation for why the salacious allegations from the Steele dossier couldn’t be true, according to the Comey memos that were released Thursday evening.

But public evidence — from previous news reports, as well as NBC News’ own reporting — strongly suggests that Trump did stay at least one night in Moscow in November 2013.

booradley 04-21-2018 02:00 PM

North Korea says will stop nuclear tests, scrap test site

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...-idUSKBN1HR37J

Edward64 04-21-2018 02:04 PM

Great news, hoping for the best (vs typical playing for time).

I do think there is cause for hope as the crazy kid visited China and they must have some sort of plan (and China is somewhat rational).

PilotMan 04-21-2018 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booradley (Post 3202365)
North Korea says will stop nuclear tests, scrap test site

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...-idUSKBN1HR37J


I wonder if this is the site that was reported to have collapsed or partially collapsed the mountain?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3202366)
Great news, hoping for the best (vs typical playing for time).

I do think there is cause for hope as the crazy kid visited China and they must have some sort of plan (and China is somewhat rational).


I'm optimistic for a kind of 80's style breakdown and freedom running rampant, but that's not really what's going on. Short of that, all of this is still more or less, the same behavior that NK has shown past. Saber rattling/brinkmanship, followed by worldwide attention, diplomacy, progress, return to secret whatever, slowly develop whatever, and back to brinkmanship. How many times have we seen this cycle?

Thomkal 04-21-2018 09:56 PM

Guess Utah doesn't like Romney as much as we thought:

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign...senate-primary

JPhillips 04-21-2018 10:14 PM

I expect Romney to win comfortably, but if he doesn't, that really would be the last nail in the anti-Trump GOP.

booradley 04-23-2018 01:59 PM

14 states hit record-low unemployment
 
http://thehill.com/homenews/state-wa...w-unemployment

BYU 14 04-23-2018 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3202393)
I expect Romney to win comfortably, but if he doesn't, that really would be the last nail in the anti-Trump GOP.


I think a Trump endorsement actually hurts him in Utah. Especially when his flip/flopping on his alignment with Trump just exposes him as another political whore.

JPhillips 04-23-2018 05:02 PM

Rand Paul might have been the vote knocking out Pompeo, so as is his want, he drops his moral stance when the going gets tough.

Quote:

"I take him at his word that he does and has incorporated the idea that the Iraq War was a mistake."

NobodyHere 04-24-2018 05:25 PM

Trump's doctor accused of drinking on the job and 'improperly' prescribing medication

Trump hires only the best people, though of course he's going to blame Obama for this as if he made him nominate Jackson for the VA job.

cuervo72 04-24-2018 05:39 PM

TPP Pullout Spurred Harley’s ‘Plan B’ Factory in Thailand - Bloomberg

panerd 04-24-2018 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3202458)
Rand Paul might have been the vote knocking out Pompeo, so as is his want, he drops his moral stance when the going gets tough.


Yep pretty weak. Hard to take the guy seriously when he always backs down. One could argue in less than ten years he has done more politically than his father’s whole career but fuck him selling out all the time. For what exactly?

RainMaker 04-24-2018 09:18 PM

That's just Rand. Talk a big game and then back down at the last minute.

JPhillips 04-24-2018 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panerd (Post 3202545)
Yep pretty weak. Hard to take the guy seriously when he always backs down. One could argue in less than ten years he has done more politically than his father’s whole career but fuck him selling out all the time. For what exactly?


Quote:

There’s a word I really hate. It’s a phoney. I could puke every time I hear it.

.

BishopMVP 04-24-2018 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3202393)
I expect Romney to win comfortably, but if he doesn't, that really would be the last nail in the anti-Trump GOP.

Who's the Mike Kennedy guy and how is he aligned? Evan McMurray is another Republican guy from Utah who would've beaten Romney, and I wouldn't consider him pro-Trump.

BBT 04-24-2018 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BishopMVP (Post 3202554)
Who's the Mike Kennedy guy and how is he aligned? Evan McMurray is another Republican guy from Utah who would've beaten Romney, and I wouldn't consider him pro-Trump.


Kennedy is basically your standard pre-Trump Republican: lower the debt, strong military, etc. Supports Trump on immigration, but Trump didn't invent the issue. As Romney says, Kennedy is probably very similar to himself.

Little-known Mike Kennedy to take on Mitt Romney in Utah GOP primary | Deseret News

Quote:

"I don't know Mike Kennedy terribly well in terms of his posture on issues. I think we're probably pretty similar," Romney said, noting both endorsed the Utah Republican Party platform.

Kennedy said the national debt is the biggest risk to the country's future. He said he opposed continuing resolutions and "pork-filled" omnibus bills to fund government. He said he would never vote for legislation lawmakers try to slip by in the middle of the night.

He favors a strong military and national defense, education decisions at the local level, judges like the late U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia and legal immigration. He said he supports President Donald Trump "doing what's necessary" to protect the borders and enforce immigration laws.

"I'm tired of business as usual in Washington, D.C.," he told delegates. "If you want things to change, you need to vote for change."

Thomkal 04-25-2018 09:16 AM

Well the Republicans finally won a special election-this time in Arizona. Not a surprise since its a very friendly GOP district, but the margin of victory-8,000+ votes and less than 10% in a district Trump won by more than 20%, should give the Dems a little victory dance instead of a big one:

Republican Lesko wins Arizona special election - POLITICO

stevew 04-25-2018 05:17 PM


corbes 04-26-2018 07:43 AM

From the Dept. of There's a Tweet for Everything, there's some really low-hanging fruit in the wake of Michael Cohen asserting his privilege against self-incrimination.

PilotMan 04-26-2018 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corbes (Post 3202693)
From the Dept. of There's a Tweet for Everything, there's some really low-hanging fruit in the wake of Michael Cohen asserting his privilege against self-incrimination.


If there's a website out there that's already cataloging this (Tweet for Everything Trump), I need to find it.

JPhillips 04-26-2018 08:00 AM

Trump called Fox and Friends and said Cohen represented him on the Stormy Daniels thing.

Could you imagine what he would say in a Mueller interview.

Radii 04-26-2018 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3202698)
If there's a website out there that's already cataloging this (Tweet for Everything Trump), I need to find it.


35,000+ Tweets, No Self Awareness

PilotMan 04-26-2018 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radii (Post 3202704)


Pure Gold. Thanks.

Thomkal 04-26-2018 09:23 AM

Dr. Jackson has withdrawn his nomination for VA head:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/26/polit...nee/index.html

And Scott Pruitt is having to "face the music" with a House committee meeting going on right now.

mckerney 04-26-2018 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corbes (Post 3202693)
From the Dept. of There's a Tweet for Everything, there's some really low-hanging fruit in the wake of Michael Cohen asserting his privilege against self-incrimination.



JPhillips 04-26-2018 10:20 AM

And the Southern District of New York has already used Trump's interview this morning in a filing arguing against Cohen's privilege claims.

digamma 04-26-2018 11:51 AM

What a bonkers interview.

PilotMan 04-26-2018 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digamma (Post 3202733)
What a bonkers interview.


Haven't seen it, but how bonkers could it really be? In light of the last couple years?

Shkspr 04-26-2018 12:26 PM

Bonkers enough that it ended with the Fox and Friends crew telling Trump, "Yeah, we'd better let you go now; you've probably got lots of important things to do."

BBT 04-26-2018 01:25 PM


Thomkal 04-26-2018 02:23 PM

Pompeo gets confirmed.

Thomkal 04-26-2018 02:28 PM

House chaplain forced out by Ryan for being "too political in his prayers" and having a Muslim priest lead prayers one day:

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/38...ed-out-by-ryan

ISiddiqui 04-26-2018 02:42 PM

Quote:

Ryan,who is also Catholic, has appointed Rep. Doug Collins (R-Ga.), an Air Force Reserve chaplain, as well as Reps. Mark Walker (R-N.C.) and Tim Walberg (R-Mich.), both former pastors, to lead the search effort to find a replacement.

Guess we can't have those Democrats deciding on the non-partisan chaplain?

Bee 04-26-2018 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3202763)
Guess we can't have those Democrats deciding on the non-partisan chaplain?


Everyone knows all Democrats are atheists. :p

whomario 04-26-2018 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bee (Post 3202780)
Everyone knows all Democrats are atheists. :p


Satanists, no ?

Atocep 04-26-2018 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whomario (Post 3202782)
Satanists, no ?


Same thing to Republicans. :D

Thomkal 04-26-2018 09:43 PM

well I guess the US won't get the World Cup in 2026 now:

Trump hints at punishing countries if they don’t back World Cup bid - POLITICO

EagleFan 04-26-2018 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3202852)
well I guess the US won't get the World Cup in 2026 now:

Trump hints at punishing countries if they don’t back World Cup bid - POLITICO


That man is an idiot.

Atocep 04-26-2018 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3202735)
Haven't seen it, but how bonkers could it really be? In light of the last couple years?


This was a solid 8.5. How often does Fox have a Republican President on and cut the segment short because he's on a senile grandpa rant?

Edward64 04-27-2018 07:19 AM

Kudos to both Korea's for making this happen. Long way to go but still a good sign.

It may just be right place at the right time but I do think Trump/Pompeo gets some credit for this.

https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/n...ntl/index.html
Quote:

For parts of the world that are just waking up, here’s a quick summary of Friday's summit.

North and South Korea took the first tentative steps towards peace on Friday during a summit with global implications.

The day began when Kim Jong Un became the first North Korean leader to cross into South Korean territory since fighting in the Korean War ended in 1953.

It culminated with the two countries vowing to formally end the war and agreeing to work towards the "complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula".

Kim and Moon Jae-in had never met before they shook hands and posed for pictures on both sides of demarcation line separating the two Koreas on Friday morning.

mckerney 04-27-2018 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3202761)
House chaplain forced out by Ryan for being "too political in his prayers" and having a Muslim priest lead prayers one day:

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/38...ed-out-by-ryan


It sounds like he got too political when calling on others consider those who are in poverty during a prayer. It's understandable, being a Catholic like Paul Ryan the chaplain should have known to stick to talking about the teachings of Jesus rather than wading into political issues like how we should treat the poor.

BBT 04-27-2018 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3202865)
Kudos to both Korea's for making this happen. Long way to go but still a good sign.

It may just be right place at the right time but I do think Trump/Pompeo gets some credit for this.

https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/n...ntl/index.html


Thy should get some credit. Every president since the Korean War was halted should get credit for today including Trump.

digamma 04-28-2018 09:07 AM

This whole VA Jackson nomination is so silly, yet really encapsulates this White House and these political times.

-Trump nominates someone way out of left field for the position, probably not qualified.

-No vetting is done of the nominee.

-Opposition research reveals a number of accusations about a variety of things.

-Opposition research called into question.

-At least one thing in the opposition research appears to be at least of questionable validity.

-All of opposition research is then called fake news.

-Attack on messenger of "all" the fake news.

Rinse. Repeat.

It's honestly just pretty depressing.

On many sides.

digamma 04-28-2018 09:11 AM

Also, an interesting thread from Radio Free Tom, who studies Russia more than North Korea, but is nonetheless well versed in foreign policy and international relations.



Edward64 04-28-2018 09:53 AM

So what are everyone's thoughts on the migrant caravan? They are here now.

I know alot of the rhetoric and characterization is off but we do have a "caravan" of folks that want to enter the US and the Mexican government has somewhat enabled this.

My initial thought is we can't save the world (and why doesn't Mexico take them in).

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/27/migr...co-border.html
Quote:

About 170 migrants in a caravan of Central American asylum-seekers have arrived in Tijuana, joining nearly 200 others on their final stop before entering the United States.

Three tourist buses were guarded by a Mexican police escort on a curvy, mountainous road from the Mexican border city of Mexicali.

Lawyers planned free workshops on the U.S. immigration system on Friday and Saturday in Tijuana. Many planned to seek asylum starting Sunday at San Diego's San Ysidro border crossing, the nation's busiest.

JPhillips 04-28-2018 10:01 AM

370 people trying to enter a country of 325.7 million people.

It doesn't matter.

Edward64 04-28-2018 10:23 AM

I think it does.

It sets a precedence.

BBT 04-28-2018 10:46 AM

If they claim asylum, shouldn’t the UN get involved, as it has with Syrian refugees. If the US feels that we can’t handle the refugees, the UN should help with resettlement among participating nations. At least we’d have a process in place to help which might also stem further illegal immigration.

digamma 04-28-2018 10:55 AM

Honestly trying to figure out what the issue is. I mean other than racism. These people are seeking asylum and doing it the right way according to the rules and laws we have set up. Again other than an orange man trying to stir up fears and outrage about brown and black people I’m at a loss for why this has become an issue.

Chief Rum 04-28-2018 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digamma (Post 3202980)
Also, an interesting thread from Radio Free Tom, who studies Russia more than North Korea, but is nonetheless well versed in foreign policy and international relations.




Maybe I'm gettibg old. I have no idea what he is referring to.

Atocep 04-28-2018 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digamma (Post 3202980)
Also, an interesting thread from Radio Free Tom, who studies Russia more than North Korea, but is nonetheless well versed in foreign policy and international relations.






We were discussing this at work yesterday and many of his points are things that were brought up.

Specifically this tweet:





It's the obvious play for Kim. He more or less destroyed his nuke testing site and he got the U.S. to acknowledge his government as legit. Nukes were his leverage and if NK went an extended period of time without conducting tests he probably knew the international community would start taking his crazy threats less seriously again. It became the perfect time to get to the table and start talking peace and stability before his leverage slipped.

This is a good thing for everyone if it keeps moving in this direction, but I also think it's naive to think Kim had a change of heart or that direct diplomacy had much of an impact on this. This is years of Kim building up a good enough hand to play and going all on in before he busts.

Vince, Pt. II 04-28-2018 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 3202994)
Maybe I'm gettibg old. I have no idea what he is referring to.


If you click on the embedded tweet, you can read the thread. He has seven tweets in a row explaining his views. He's basically giving a very broad outline of what it looks like from an international relations viewpoint.

bronconick 04-28-2018 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3202995)
We were discussing this at work yesterday and many of his points are things that were brought up.

Specifically this tweet:





It's the obvious play for Kim. He more or less destroyed his nuke testing site and he got the U.S. to acknowledge his government as legit. Nukes were his leverage and if NK went an extended period of time without conducting tests he probably knew the international community would start taking his crazy threats less seriously again. It became the perfect time to get to the table and start talking peace and stability before his leverage slipped.

This is a good thing for everyone if it keeps moving in this direction, but I also think it's naive to think Kim had a change of heart or that direct diplomacy had much of an impact on this. This is years of Kim building up a good enough hand to play and going all on in before he busts.



If he's lucky, the South Koreans will sign a deal and then they'll start to wonder why the Americans are still on the peninsula.

NobodyHere 04-29-2018 07:10 PM

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/29/polit...ian/index.html

I guess the nomination sunk his career.

RainMaker 04-29-2018 07:34 PM

Didn't his Dad do the same thing a couple decades ago? I'm not sure what to think of the NK thing because it seems like they change their mind a lot (and enjoy playing games).

http://content.time.com/time/covers/...000626,00.html

Still worth remembering he's a ruthless dictator who has had his country hack the United States and companies that operate within it. This should be about more than just the nukes.

bhlloy 04-29-2018 08:11 PM

What else do you do though? Any military reaction likely results in thousands of US combat deaths and tens to hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths in an allied country. Given the fact we collectively couldn't face hundreds of deaths a month in Afghanistan and Iraq, you think we're going to fight the Korean war part 2 with a NK who actually has a massive army and some modern weaponry this time?

The long play is to try to bring them back into the international community and see if the whole sordid farce doesn't collapse. Having the nuke capability that can strike the US and Japan gone is 99.9% of what really matters to us. And as much of a ruthless dictator he is, I'm not sure the cost of what it would take to get rid of him is really worth it.

JPhillips 04-29-2018 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3203046)
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/29/polit...ian/index.html

I guess the nomination sunk his career.


If he was self prescribing he'll be lucky to keep his license.

digamma 04-29-2018 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3203051)
If he was self prescribing he'll be lucky to keep his license.


You're missing the point. Tester had the thing about the car crash wrong.

mckerney 04-30-2018 12:50 AM

There continues to be a tweet for everything, sometimes coming the day before.



Thomkal 04-30-2018 08:47 AM

It's President Trump's favorite day!

Honesty Day - Wikipedia

jeff061 04-30-2018 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mckerney (Post 3203057)
There continues to be a tweet for everything, sometimes coming the day before.





This is great, I think this beats all of Trump's hypocritical tweets.

panerd 04-30-2018 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mckerney (Post 3203057)
There continues to be a tweet for everything, sometimes coming the day before.




I am going to go out on a limb and guess that Huckabee and those 3 guests aren't going to deliver the humor he promises.

tarcone 04-30-2018 08:33 PM

Right to Work

Pros/Cons

GO!

JonInMiddleGA 04-30-2018 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panerd (Post 3203070)
I am going to go out on a limb and guess that Huckabee and those 3 guests aren't going to deliver the humor he promises.


Probably depends on your sense of humor.

Hell, the pony & playdough line alone made me chuckle.

Edward64 05-01-2018 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tarcone (Post 3203108)
Right to Work

Pros/Cons

GO!


I do think times have changed. Whereas there was need to protect many people in many different industries at one time, the country has evolved and there is much reduced need for labor unions now.

Any particular industry you were thinking of?

E.g. I don't think silicon valley coders need unions

tarcone 05-01-2018 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3203125)
I do think times have changed. Whereas there was need to protect many people in many different industries at one time, the country has evolved and there is much reduced need for labor unions now.

Any particular industry you were thinking of?

E.g. I don't think silicon valley coders need unions


No industry. We have a statewide election on a prop making Right to Work law.

Im on the fence. This seems to be a real hot button in some circles.

Im not a union guy. But will this type of thing be abused in the long run?

Im just curious what this intelligent, diverse crowd has to say about it.

Marc Vaughan 05-01-2018 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3203125)
I do think times have changed. Whereas there was need to protect many people in many different industries at one time, the country has evolved and there is much reduced need for labor unions now.
Any particular industry you were thinking of?
E.g. I don't think silicon valley coders need unions


I would have thought anyone in a lower paid job or a dangerous job requires a union in order to give them half decent worker protection.

Even those in relatively good jobs require unions to stop places over-working them (thinking of coders, I know many places who do 'crunch' of 60 hours+ a week for long periods, fortunately not something I have to endure). The arguement is always 'you can go elsewhere' - but how many people with family and kids want to uproot them?

Heck I compare my protection and benefits here in Florida against those the UK employees have back home and it dumbfounds me how people in the US function, I at least have a contract with additional protections but I don't have half the benefits the UK employees have such as receiving 75% of your pay if you're unable to work due to illness/injury (pretty much for life) etc.

As far as I can tell 'Right to Work' in Florida simply mean 'Right to Work for less' ... it artificially weakens labors negotiations and ensures larger corporate profits even when the corporation could easily afford to pay better wages.

JPhillips 05-01-2018 12:56 PM

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewi...kenship-new-ad

Scroll down and watch Don Blankenship's ad attacking Cocaine Mitch McConnell. Everything about the ad is amazing.

NobodyHere 05-01-2018 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3203166)
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewi...kenship-new-ad

Scroll down and watch Don Blankenship's ad attacking Cocaine Mitch McConnell. Everything about the ad is amazing.


The ad might as well be


SackAttack 05-01-2018 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tarcone (Post 3203128)
No industry. We have a statewide election on a prop making Right to Work law.

Im on the fence. This seems to be a real hot button in some circles.

Im not a union guy. But will this type of thing be abused in the long run?

Im just curious what this intelligent, diverse crowd has to say about it.


"Right to work" isn't. It's about undermining labor unions because they aren't Republican donors.

Full stop, that's all you need to know about it. The other arguments against, like "If I'm not a union member I shouldn't have to pay union dues to enjoy the higher wages and benefits that the union negotiated on behalf of all workers" is a smokescreen. It's meant to distract from the main goal, which is to undermine perceived Democratic power bases.

And if folks living in RTW states make less (and they do, by an average of about 3.5%) than folks living in states with stronger labor protections, well, you can't make an omelette and all that jazz.

Atocep 05-01-2018 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3161277)
Trump himself may very well be innocent in this, but his attempt to dictate and control the investigation is what's going to bring him down. I seriously question whether or not he understands that he can be guilty of obstruction even if he's innocent.


Yup



QuikSand 05-01-2018 03:15 PM

Ha ha!

: points at the old school rube still thinking about facts and stuff :

BBT 05-01-2018 08:06 PM



Logan 05-02-2018 07:24 AM

Anyone who thought differently should lose their voting privileges.

JPhillips 05-02-2018 08:58 AM

Ukraine halts cases against Manafort and stops cooperating with the FBI so as not to piss off Trump and lose access to anti-tank weapons.

Quote:

The State Department issued an export license for the missiles on Dec. 22, and on March 2 the Pentagon announced final approval for the sale of 210 Javelins and 35 launching units. The order to halt investigations into Mr. Manafort came in early April.

Volodymyr Ariev, a member of Parliament who is an ally of President Petro O. Poroshenko, readily acknowledged that the intention in Kiev was to put investigations into Mr. Manafort’s activities “in the long-term box.”

“In every possible way, we will avoid irritating the top American officials,” Mr. Ariev said in an interview. “We shouldn’t spoil relations with the administration.”

Thomkal 05-02-2018 09:11 AM

You remember that glowing letter from Trump's doctor in 2015 during the campaign, and how much it sounded like Trump saying it. Well...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/01/polit...ter/index.html

jeff061 05-02-2018 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan (Post 3203201)
Anyone who thought differently should lose their voting privileges.


Couple Trumps promise of bringing back dead and valueless jobs with his unwavering support of killing future valuable jobs(Amazon)... I don't have words. Factory line workers good, technology workers bad.

But hey, he may be incompetent, impossible to work with/for and aggressively advocates for abdicating America's leadership in a world that is only getting smaller and more connected, at least he speaks his mind!!! My understanding is that's all that matters. That and triggering libtards.

Kodos 05-02-2018 09:16 AM

I am triggered by your post. I am now going to hug a panda bear.

Thomkal 05-02-2018 12:33 PM

Let the subpoenas flow Mueller:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...ce-retiring-wh

Atocep 05-02-2018 05:31 PM

Trump supporters suddenly becoming Kanye fans is just weird.

Thomkal 05-02-2018 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3203270)
Trump supporters suddenly becoming Kanye fans is just weird.


Yeah been trying to avoid that part of this, but did he really say slavery was a choice?

JPhillips 05-02-2018 07:20 PM

The Kanye for the NFL trade was very unexpected.

Thomkal 05-02-2018 08:01 PM

Cambridge Analytica has shut its doors:

https://gizmodo.com/cambridge-analyt...ces-1825698536

But have reformed under a new name-Emerdata:

https://www.metro.us/news/the-big-st...mpany-emerdata

digamma 05-02-2018 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3203277)
The Kanye for the NFL trade was very unexpected.


I'd give a lot to see Kanye, Trump and Macron sing N___ in Paris.

miami_fan 05-02-2018 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3203276)
Yeah been trying to avoid that part of this, but did he really say slavery was a choice?


The most free of the free thinkers.

JPhillips 05-02-2018 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3203280)
Cambridge Analytica has shut its doors:

https://gizmodo.com/cambridge-analyt...ces-1825698536

But have reformed under a new name-Emerdata:

https://www.metro.us/news/the-big-st...mpany-emerdata


They're just like a scam Persian rug place.

digamma 05-02-2018 09:12 PM

Rudy really coming in with a bang. He says Trump paid Cohen back for the Dark & Stormy over a period of several months. Ain't nobody gonna care, but I mean WTF?

NobodyHere 05-02-2018 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma (Post 3203286)
Rudy really coming in with a bang. He says Trump paid Cohen back for the Dark & Stormy over a period of several months. Ain't nobody gonna care, but I mean WTF?


Giuliani: Trump repaid Cohen $130K for payment to porn star

What exactly is Guliani's game here?

JPhillips 05-02-2018 09:44 PM

He also said Trump fired Comey because Comey wouldn't say Trump wasn't a target.

[ArrestedDevelopmentLawyerGif]

kingfc22 05-02-2018 10:04 PM

So Guliani is getting fired...tomorrow???

kingfc22 05-02-2018 10:19 PM

Would be pretty funny if Fox News interviews are what cause the downfall...

BishopMVP 05-02-2018 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3203285)
They're just like a scam Persian rug place.

I was thinking they're the new Blackwater, but then I realized I don't recall what Blackwater changed their name to off the top of my head, and this re-branding will probably work as well :(


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