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Probably not - the father was lauding the administration for bringing him back, where the old one hadn't.
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I'm sorry. Any US citizen going into NK has had fair warning for a while now. US foreign policy should not be held hostage to a bad decision to go (regardless if they are really guilty or not).
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It's like Team45 was sitting back saying "if only some politically and racially divisive thing could come along and create a massive distraction to get all the easy marks fired up for a while..." |
"The President's tweets are official statements".....
"The President's tweets are incomplete due to Twitter's character limitations" This f'n circus just doesn't stop. |
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Since this is the political catchall thread...
Supposedly the Ossoff campaign has spent over $23 million already, making this the most expensive congressional race ever. Is it really worth it for the dems to win one seat that they are going to have to run for again next year when they don't have that kind of money to spend? Presumably they don't have unlimited money, right? |
In the general, no, but in this primary that money isn't going to go into other races. People want to give to this race, not to a party account for future expenditures.
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It seems to be a case where being the only thing going has weighed heavily. The maddening thing for most residents in the Atlanta viewing area is the insane amount of ads combined with the fact that the majority of viewers in the market can't even legally vote in the race. There's been so much money available for advertising for this that I happen to know that at least one (if not both, I haven't verified that) campaign has been running cable spots -- which are sold by "zone", approximating countys -- in areas that have zero voters involved. They literally have so much cash that they're having problems spending it all. |
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I am firmly in the 5th (or wherever Hank Johnson is) and I see nothing but Ossoff and a few Handel signs all over my neighborhood. The lines are drawn a little funky around me, so there could be somebody in the Oak Grove area that is in the 6th, but the district lines are silly.
I did see somebody with a funny, Get your Ossoff my lawn sign though. I can't believe anyone would believe Karen Handel is fit for any office, but I guess she has the right letter next to her name. |
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It is, kind of ironically, the one thing that seems to be crossing party lines. This has been insanity. It's so bad that we've started using apps (for the NHL playoffs) to avoid the local ads, my wife even abandoned a show last night & switched to QVC just to get away from the onslaught. I've always steadfastly opposed limits on campaign spending but this race (combined with an absurd spending on a state house race a couple years ago) has me re-thinking that position somewhat, on the grounds of cruel & unusual punishment for innocent voters. |
It's quite bad, but even worse for folks that live in the district. I have coworkers that live in the 6th and they tell of basically wave after wave of volunteers knocking on doors.
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Heh. I actually saw a (D) in the district mention on social media that they were going to put an NRA sticker on their front door just to try to ward off the doorknockers. :lol: |
Ah, but then you'd get the Handel ones (yep, there are both parties knocking).
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Though that does remind me - off topic - I'm sure I've made a fellow driver in Atlanta blow their minds due to my bumper magnets. I have 3 of them - a Hillary Clinton magnet, an Atlanta United magnet, and a #78 Martin Truex, Jr. magnet. I'm just curious as to which folks are more puzzled - the liberals wondering about the NASCAR magnet or the conservatives wondering about the Hillary magnet? |
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The latter. The former has no clue who Martin Truex, Jr is :lol: |
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But they see a number and usually put 2 and 2 together. A friend of ours came by and saw my car and asked my gf "So Imran is a NASCAR fan now?" I'm positive he has no clue about any driver in NASCAR (well perhaps with the exception of Junior... but everyone has heard of him). |
Can I come out of the closet as a liberal NASCAR fan? I started gambling on it a few years ago and next thing you know, I'm kind of enjoying it. But I'm a farmer and live in the country so I was a bit predisposed......
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I hear there are a few of us around, but not all that many apparently ;). The guy who introduced the sport to me (and indicated that Truex would be a fine driver for me to follow due to our shared New Jersey roots) is a left-of-center person as well. Though he is from the suburbs of Atlanta. |
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I'm in a NASCAR pool at a local bowling alley. Given some of the racial attitudes among a few members, I'd love to see Daniel Suarez and Bubba Wallace do well :) |
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:lol: You and me both, brother! Kyle Larson being half-Japanese is kind of fun as well. |
I could probably wall paper a room or two with the number of flyers I have received in the mail for the election in the past month. Ready for it to be over.
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This incident with the Syrian fighter jet is yet another example. The Russians are pulling back and throwing out warnings. It's not big news right now, but it's the bedrock for something else than we've see before in this conflict. It's a path to a bad place. |
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He has now died. :( |
Looks like Trump has gone to DEFCON2 with the media. Spicer held the daily press briefing with no audio/video allowed.
CNN's Jim Acosta unloads on White House over off-camera briefings - Jun. 19, 2017 |
Aaaaand Spicy's gone.
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Guess that makes Huckabee-Sanders next man up?
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She is probably the lucky winner indeed. |
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Good for him, man. This isn't North Korea. |
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And the media is going right along with it. There's no law saying that they have to attend these no recording briefings. But they will. They will piss and moan about it. But they won't actually do something that could change it. |
Not feeling good about Ossoff's chances tonight. The PredictIt money has shifted against him the past few days and now has him at only .47
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I'm very confident in a Handel victory as tribalism matters most of all in American politics. A district that's traditionally so Republican is very unlikely to elect a Dem.
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Eh, that's a very lukewarm district at this point. I'd be surprised if Asshat managed to screw it up honestly, Handel isn't exactly what you'd call an inspiring candidate. |
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It's still a very Republican district. Trump is just a bad fit for it. Price won re-election by 23 points while Trump only won it by 1 pt. |
To state the obvious, it all comes down to who can turn out their supporters. Ossoff's base is definitely more motivated, but I don't think he wins on his base. I'll be interested to see what the fall off in voters is from the special election. I didn't look it up, but isn't it usually 40% or so?
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It has been overwhelmingly GOP since Carter in House and Presidential elections with the notable exception of Trump/Clinton. Maybe that matters more than partisan history, but I doubt it. edit: You have a lot of people that consider themselves life-long Republicans that will have to vote for a Dem for an Ossoff victory. That could happen, but it's unlikely. |
The Senate process on the healthcare bill is going to cause immense damage to our system. Once norms are broken they are very difficult to restore. Secret legislation with very short voting windows is going to become the new norm for both parties.
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Bad news for the Dems today. It's been raining all day. It's not pouring at least. |
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It's a very lightweight fluffy set of Republicans though. These are not, generally, Reagan Repubs. More Goldwatery. For them to make the jump isn't really much of a switch. (Hell, as lousy a candidate as Handel is, she wouldn't have been a leap for probably 1/3rd of Ds either) |
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District under a flash-flood warning until right after the polls close-mostly affecting Democratic parts of the district-how did the R's arrange that with God? :) |
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There probably will be an increase in voters for the runoff. 140k have already voted early. Total voters last round was 193k. |
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And now it's pouring in downtown Atlanta... has been for a few hours. I think this gives it to Handel. |
If that's you're excuse for not voting, then you deserve what you're stuck with.
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Welcome to the reality of GOTV?
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Wouldn't the bad weather be more likely to hurt Handel? Her base is older and not as motivated. And I thought Ossoff banked a lead in the early vote.
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The bad weather is worst in the Democratic areas of the district. Although some Republicans have tweeted concern that 400 north will be jammed for those GOPers coming home from work to get to their polling place. |
Well usual thinking is that less turnout benefits the Republicans while more turnout benefits the Democrats - because the general Republican base (old, rich, etc) is more willing to vote regardless
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The impact of the weather may be overstated here. This is a district that does not rely as heavily as most for black voters to supply the core (D) votes. Black voters & lower income voters (which often have significant overlay) are the demographic groups that seem to generally be most impacted in turnout by rain/snow.
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So South Carolina has become an interesting contest all of a sudden-Democrat was ahead until just recently-now falling behind quickly. Georgia still too close to call at this point with Handel very slightly ahead.
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PredictIt has Handel at .89 cents right now.
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