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Schmidty 06-25-2009 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic (Post 2058741)
Uhh... I would not do that if I were Minnesota. But it would be interesting for the all-Spanish team. ;)


Portland would be Icy's new favorite team.

Dr. Sak 06-25-2009 09:06 PM

Oh snap...MBBF just got wood.

Mizzou B-ball fan 06-25-2009 09:07 PM

Woohoo! DeMarre picked at #27 by the Grizzlies! Halfway between Vanderbilt and Mizzou. :D Guaranteed money. Good for him.

Schmidty 06-25-2009 09:07 PM

I don't know why, but I never look forward to the second round. It's more boring than the 6th and 7th rounds in the NFL draft. It just seems so rare that a player becomes anything more than bench player after being selected in the 2nd round. I know my perception is probably wrong, but it just feels that way.

Of course, this year, the Pistons have 3 2nd rounders, so I might pay a little more attention. (Draft Goran Suton please).

Mizzou B-ball fan 06-25-2009 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 2058746)
Oh snap...MBBF just got wood.


Don't hate. :D

DaddyTorgo 06-25-2009 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty (Post 2058750)
I don't know why, but I never look forward to the second round. It's more boring than the 6th and 7th rounds in the NFL draft. It just seems so rare that a player becomes anything more than bench player after being selected in the 2nd round. I know my perception is probably wrong, but it just feels that way.

Of course, this year, the Pistons have 3 2nd rounders, so I might pay a little more attention. (Draft Goran Suton please).


Michael Redd?

sterlingice 06-25-2009 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty (Post 2058750)
I don't know why, but I never look forward to the second round. It's more boring than the 6th and 7th rounds in the NFL draft. It just seems so rare that a player becomes anything more than bench player after being selected in the 2nd round. I know my perception is probably wrong, but it just feels that way.

Of course, this year, the Pistons have 3 2nd rounders, so I might pay a little more attention. (Draft Goran Suton please).


I think NFL 6th rounders have a better chance of being on the team after year 1 than 2nd round NBA players

SI

jbergey22 06-25-2009 09:16 PM

Ellington was a steal there. Maybe the wolves will change their mind and trade Rubio and keep Lawson. Draft Danny Green in the 2nd round and they may be on to something.

k0ruptr 06-25-2009 09:16 PM

Are Wolves fans cheering because they didn't take another PG?

wade moore 06-25-2009 09:16 PM

As the local CAA homer that only knows some about the NBA..

How will Maynor fit in at Utah? What is their PG situation like? Does he have the chance to contribute over the next several years?

jbergey22 06-25-2009 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 2058762)
As the local CAA homer that only knows some about the NBA..

How will Maynor fit in at Utah? What is their PG situation like? Does he have the chance to contribute over the next several years?


Not as a starter as Utah has one of the best PGs in the NBA. Utah is a good fit though as sloan does a great job of finding roles for his players.

wade moore 06-25-2009 09:18 PM

Duh - Deron Williams. So no chance he starts (I think he was doomed if he started anyways).. but what's their depth like?

k0ruptr 06-25-2009 09:18 PM

Darko to the knicks?

which would be his 6th nba team. Still early in his career, hes got a good chance to get to half of the NBA

wade moore 06-25-2009 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22 (Post 2058765)
Not as a starter as Utah has one of the best PGs in the NBA. Utah is a good fit though as sloan does a great job of finding roles for his players.


Good to know. I enjoyed watching him in college. I have questions about how he'll work in the NBA - namely I'm not sure about his shooting. But he has the athleticism, size, and "court vision" to succeed as a PG.

jbergey22 06-25-2009 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr (Post 2058760)
Are Wolves fans cheering because they didn't take another PG?


LOL

They keep bringing them in and one of them has to turn out right?

jbergey22 06-25-2009 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 2058769)
Good to know. I enjoyed watching him in college. I have questions about how he'll work in the NBA - namely I'm not sure about his shooting. But he has the athleticism, size, and "court vision" to succeed as a PG.


Yup, Sloan carried a deep bench last year in which I believe 9 players averaged more than 18 minutes per game so he will get his chances. Plus Deron is injury prone. I like Maynor a lot as well. Too bad it was such a deep PG draft of he could have gone much higher.

sterlingice 06-25-2009 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22 (Post 2058775)
Yup, Sloan carried a deep bench last year in which I believe 9 players averaged more than 18 minutes per game so he will get his chances. Plus Deron is injury prone. I like Maynor a lot as well. Too bad it was such a deep PG draft of he could have gone much higher.


Yes, to Minnesota ;)

SI

yacovfb 06-25-2009 09:27 PM

As a Pitt fan and a fan of NCAA ball, it's now been confirmed to me that the NBA is indeed a joke. May all the executives not taking Blair or Young get canned sometime in the next 5 years.

Swaggs 06-25-2009 09:29 PM

Hard to believe that Young and Blair go undrafted (in the first round) out of Pitt. I can understand the questions about Blair, with his injury history and size (both height and weight), but Young seems like the perfect combination of size/skill/athleticism to be a solid NBA wing.

k0ruptr 06-25-2009 09:29 PM

Patty Mills also falls to the 2nd... interesting.

sterlingice 06-25-2009 09:30 PM

Man, I'd love to have Blair at this point.

SI

k0ruptr 06-25-2009 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 2058781)
Man, I'd love to have Blair at this point.

SI


+1

k0ruptr 06-25-2009 09:34 PM

Chase Budinger has a shot to be a decent 2nd rounder it seems as well.

RainMaker 06-25-2009 09:34 PM

Not drafting Blair is just crazy. He'll be able to step in and give you rebounds right away. Not a starter or anything but a guy who can give you 10-15 tough minutes a night. Teams in the draft are more worried about taking a shot at getting a star instead of drafting a good role player.

jbergey22 06-25-2009 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr (Post 2058780)
Patty Mills also falls to the 2nd... interesting.


I think this was expected

jbergey22 06-25-2009 09:35 PM

Agree with you guys on Blair/Young. Blair could be a beast against certain matchups and Young can do it all.

mckerney 06-25-2009 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22 (Post 2058714)
Well obviously Lawson is getting traded and Ive been seeing rumors of Rubio going to the Knicks for Nate Robinson/Jordan Hill. It will all work out give him a chance.


This draft was a disaster as soon as Harden and Evans went before the 5th pick, leaving the Wolves stuck with Rubio. Rubio lasting to 5 is the worst thing that could have happened, couldn't be less excited about drafting him. Dammit I wish he'd gone earlier, that trade with the Knicks would be absolutely terrible? What does Hill do for this team when they've already decided to build around 2 PFs who can't play another position very well?

Passing on Mullens at 18 will probably turn out to be another in a long line of mistakes by the Wolves in the draft. Besides having no one at the 2 or 3, they don't have anyone to start and center right now.

Swaggs 06-25-2009 09:36 PM

It is pretty amazing that, year after year, there are 40 or 50 underclassmen that leave early and think that they will be first round picks.

RainMaker 06-25-2009 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr (Post 2058780)
Patty Mills also falls to the 2nd... interesting.


He's a moron for coming out early. Hope he falls to the end.

Atocep 06-25-2009 09:37 PM

Blair has scared teams off because of knee injuries and I've read that doctors were actually unable to find either of his ACLs in pre-draft exams.

jbergey22 06-25-2009 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney (Post 2058793)
This draft was a disaster as soon as Harden and Evans went before the 5th pick, leaving the Wolves stuck with Rubio. Rubio lasting to 5 is the worst thing that could have happened, couldn't be less excited about drafting him. Dammit I wish he'd gone earlier, that trade with the Knicks would be absolutely terrible? What does Hill do for this team when they've already decided to build around 2 PFs who can't play another position very well?


Its not a disaster. They are getting the best PG in the draft(Flynn). They stole Ellington who will be just fine as a SG. They will get a higher 1st rounder next year for Lawson and teams are apparently making offers left and right for Rubio.

sterlingice 06-25-2009 09:38 PM

I love this 2 minute clock

SI

sterlingice 06-25-2009 09:39 PM

THAT WAS AWESOME!!

Knicks fans: "AWWWWWWWW! Why Darko?!?!?!?"

SI

RainMaker 06-25-2009 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 2058796)
Blair has scared teams off because of knee injuries and I've read that doctors were actually unable to find either of his ACLs in pre-draft exams.

A team doesn't need him for 5+ years. Just draft him and use him as a backup PF who is real cheap for a couple years till his knees go. At the end of the 1st round you're only talking about a million or so dollars in guaranteed money. Much cheaper than a veteran who will want a few million.

For instance, he'd be a nice fit on Cleveland. But they chose a guy who won't be in the league for 3-5 years. Makes no fucking sense when you need to win this year. Although Cleveland is a bad example as they are one of the dumbest franchises in the league.

DeToxRox 06-25-2009 09:46 PM

Summers is actually I pick I like. That's what we need down low.

Atocep 06-25-2009 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 2058802)
A team doesn't need him for 5+ years. Just draft him and use him as a backup PF who is real cheap for a couple years till his knees go. At the end of the 1st round you're only talking about a million or so dollars in guaranteed money. Much cheaper than a veteran who will want a few million.

For instance, he'd be a nice fit on Cleveland. But they chose a guy who won't be in the league for 3-5 years. Makes no fucking sense when you need to win this year. Although Cleveland is a bad example as they are one of the dumbest franchises in the league.


Oh, I agree. I think he'd be a great fit for a team like San Antonio. However, I think a lot of GMs would rather look like dumbasses drafting a young guy with a lot of upside that busts than draft a guy like Blair, though.

sterlingice 06-25-2009 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 2058802)
For instance, he'd be a nice fit on Cleveland. But they chose a guy who won't be in the league for 3-5 years. Makes no fucking sense when you need to win this year. Although Cleveland is a bad example as they are one of the dumbest franchises in the league.


I thought Cleveland was a good landing spot but I guess I was wrong. Why pick someone who can help you now when you can pick a bust overseas?

SI

k0ruptr 06-25-2009 09:48 PM

Following the yahoo chat blog thing, a fan asked who the clips would draft #1 next year and JE Skeets says, Blair, he probably will still be there.

I Lol'ed at that.

sterlingice 06-25-2009 09:49 PM

Again, that was awesome.

Stu (to Thorn): "Why did you trade away what is still one of the most electrifying players in the league in Vince Carter?"
Some fan in the crowd: "Because he sucks!"

SI

sterlingice 06-25-2009 09:51 PM

Notice how quick that pick was?

Spurs: "Crap? Blair's still on the board? Get the bald dude to the podium, stat!"

SI

RainMaker 06-25-2009 09:51 PM

That's a steal for the Spurs.

I really like the Spurs next year.

miami_fan 06-25-2009 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 2058804)
Oh, I agree. I think he'd be a great fit for a team like San Antonio. However, I think a lot of GMs would rather look like dumbasses drafting a young guy with a lot of upside that busts than draft a guy like Blair, though.


Or you can wait til the 2nd round and get him there

sterlingice 06-25-2009 09:53 PM

Damn, Spurs are going to be a huge problem in the Southwest this season

SI

jbergey22 06-25-2009 09:54 PM

Portland just drafted the worst player in the draft.

k0ruptr 06-25-2009 09:54 PM

Spurs have made some damn good moves. give Blair 10-15 minutes a game next to duncan, and you get Richard Jefferson?

Atocep 06-25-2009 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 2058811)
Or you can wait til the 2nd round and get him there


Well, San Antonio didn't have a first round pick I just thought they were a perfect pick. I was mostly targeting teams like the Lakers, Cleveland, and Chicago who could have used him. I picked San Antonio because I think he fits with what Pop wants out of his backups pefectly.

miami_fan 06-25-2009 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22 (Post 2058815)
Portland just drafted the worst player in the draft.


He is headed to Sacramento

Arles 06-25-2009 09:55 PM

Agreed, SA has had a great offseason so far

jbergey22 06-25-2009 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr (Post 2058816)
Spurs have made some damn good moves. give Blair 10-15 minutes a game next to duncan, and you get Richard Jefferson?


I like Blair but Ive been wondering if Jefferson is a good fit for that style.

jbergey22 06-25-2009 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 2058818)
He is headed to Sacramento


Well congrats to the Kings on that one. Cant believe with some of these decent players left that stiff got drafted.


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