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Toddzilla 10-26-2005 12:04 PM

Just got back from EB Games with it - saw that it recommends 512 MB RAM, so I made a quick stop at *shudder* Best Buy for a memory upgrade but they DONT CARRY PC-133 MEMORY - so I'm installing it now with minimum memory req's (256 MB).

w00t

ISiddiqui 10-26-2005 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015
It runs impossibly slow on my desktop. I am going to install it on this laptop and see what happens.


What are the specs on your desktop?

cuervo72 10-26-2005 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg
I'm taking up a collection to buy this for me. Please give. Think of the children!! (that I can ignore while playing this game).


You should consider the game an excellent means of teaching children the city names of ancient Sumeria.

Godzilla Blitz 10-26-2005 01:54 PM

On a whim I just went over a picked up a copy of the Special Edition at my nearby Gamestop.

Loading now, but most likely won't be able to play until late this evening.

Eilim 10-26-2005 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Godzilla Blitz
On a whim I just went over a picked up a copy of the Special Edition at my nearby Gamestop.

Loading now, but most likely won't be able to play until late this evening.


I despise you... May your capital city forever be attacked by raging barbarian hordes. :p

Ben E Lou 10-26-2005 02:00 PM

I picked it up at lunch and just installed it on the laptop.

Vince 10-26-2005 02:00 PM

Man, Amazon.com hasn't even shipped my copy yet.

Though I'm going to be out of town all weekend, and it won't matter, this still bugs me.

ISiddiqui 10-26-2005 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince
Man, Amazon.com hasn't even shipped my copy yet.

Though I'm going to be out of town all weekend, and it won't matter, this still bugs me.


Same here, Amazon hasn't shipped ANYONE's copies from what I've read. I think I'll go out and buy it and cancel my Amazon order.

Godzilla Blitz 10-26-2005 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Eilim
I despise you... May your capital city forever be attacked by raging barbarian hordes. :p


Given that I didn't play Civ III that much and only got decent at Civ II, I expect that my capital city will have lots of unwelcome barbarians pounding on the gates. :)

MikeVic 10-26-2005 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72
You should consider the game an excellent means of teaching children the city names of ancient Sumeria.


In grade 8, part of my History class was actually playing the game and recording what techs you needed to advance. Such a fun day when you knew it was off to the computer lab to play some Civilization (the first one). :)

Eilim 10-26-2005 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog
I picked it up at lunch and just installed it on the laptop.


If/when ya get a chance, mind sharing how well it performs on your laptop? I might actually leave the house a few times the next few weeks if it runs on my laptop and is not limited to my desktop machine.

fantastic flying froggies 10-26-2005 02:25 PM

And please do tell us if the AI is any good...

Ben E Lou 10-26-2005 02:33 PM

Definite performance issues on the laptop. Graphics problems, specifically. When I zoom in, the whole screen goes black. Zooming out, I can see the greens and tans of the grasslands and plains. :(

Pumpy Tudors 10-26-2005 02:35 PM

I can live with the screen going black if the AI is good.

Passacaglia 10-26-2005 02:37 PM

Okay, just got back from buying the game. I'm going to limit myself to 1 hour per day, though. I do a lot of binge playing of Civ, then when I get back to the game, I lose the feel for what I had been doing. If I play just an hour a day, I'm likely to stay immersed for a longer amount of -- hey, what am I doing talking to you jerks?

Passacaglia 10-26-2005 02:43 PM

Wow, I wasn't expecting 2 CDs. Oh, and the guy before me got the last copy of the Limited Edition. Did I miss out on much by not getting that?

Pumpy Tudors 10-26-2005 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia
Oh, and the guy before me got the last copy of the Limited Edition. Did I miss out on much by not getting that?


You missed out on the enhanced AI

ISiddiqui 10-26-2005 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia
Wow, I wasn't expecting 2 CDs. Oh, and the guy before me got the last copy of the Limited Edition. Did I miss out on much by not getting that?


The preorder edition had the different box (the "bible box"), a hot-key guide (in color), a tech tree poster, and a spiral bound manual.

Samdari 10-26-2005 02:45 PM

There is no Pumpy Tudors pic on this page yet.

Ben E Lou 10-26-2005 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors
I can live with the screen going black if the AI is good.

:D

moriarty 10-26-2005 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors
I can live with the screen going black if the AI is good.


This cracked me up for some reason. Who cares if i can't see anything, just as long as the AI is good damnit!

edit - Skydog beat me to it, should've stuck with the simplistic smiley.

Pumpy Tudors 10-26-2005 02:47 PM

I'm not going to post a Pumpy Tudors pic, but I will post a pic of a former co-worker in this thread soon, just for kicks.

Ksyrup 10-26-2005 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors
I can live with the screen going black if the AI is good.


I just snorted Coke out of my nose. Too bad I wasn't drinking anything at time.

ISiddiqui 10-26-2005 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog
Definite performance issues on the laptop. Graphics problems, specifically. When I zoom in, the whole screen goes black. Zooming out, I can see the greens and tans of the grasslands and plains. :(


So if you don't zoom in all the way, is it ok? :D

Pumpy Tudors 10-26-2005 02:51 PM

I'm sorry, I am thisclose to making another AI comment, but I'm going to hold back. I know it's getting old for everybody, but it hasn't gotten old for me yet. I'll just keep them in my head for now.

Flasch186 10-26-2005 02:57 PM

im just going to say wow, the AI during installation is AWESOME. It basically did almost everything for me, a few clicks and it, the AI, knew exactly where to put everything.

I havnt played the game yet because the AI during the installation was so good, I decided to see if it was AS good during removal. I am pleased to announce that it is and I will now enjoy the AI during installation again.

Thank you

Butter 10-26-2005 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors
I'm sorry, I am thisclose to making another AI comment, but I'm going to hold back. I know it's getting old for everybody, but it hasn't gotten old for me yet. I'll just keep them in my head for now.


I'm tired of making the comments, but I'm not tired of reading 'em yet.

Passacaglia 10-26-2005 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186
im just going to say wow, the AI during installation is AWESOME. It basically did almost everything for me, a few clicks and it, the AI, knew exactly where to put everything.


Not for me -- I had to physically type out the directory I wanted to put it in! Stupid AI.

Pumpy Tudors 10-26-2005 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69
I'm tired of making the comments, but I'm not tired of reading 'em yet.


In that case...

PING: Skydog

Does the AI get better if you zoom out?

Ben E Lou 10-26-2005 03:11 PM

I have a small driver update available. Trying that now.

Several people are reporting this at Apolyton and Civfanatics, though.

Laptop is rebooting as I type.

gstelmack 10-26-2005 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog
Laptop is rebooting as I type.


This would have been much funnier if you had written:

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog
Laptop is rebooting as I ty


Eaglesfan27 10-26-2005 03:18 PM

Due to hurricane aftermath and its effects on shipping, I was told by 3 different stores that it won't be available until at least Thursday and possibly as late as Saturday. Oh well, at least I have this weekend off to hopefully enjoy this once I get it :)

ISiddiqui 10-26-2005 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog
I have a small driver update available. Trying that now.

Several people are reporting this at Apolyton and Civfanatics, though.

Laptop is rebooting as I type.


So the laptop was a no go originally? Yikes... I got the same graphics card VRam numbers you got!! Though AoE III demo worked fine and had the same reqirements, dammit!

Coffee Warlord 10-26-2005 03:26 PM

So where's the Alright Boyz thread for Civ?

moriarty 10-26-2005 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord
So where's the Alright Boyz thread for Civ?


Everyone must be too busy playing or staring at the black screen.

cuervo72 10-26-2005 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors
I can live with the screen going black if the AI is good.


Super Fog-of-War

Hurst2112 10-26-2005 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack
This would have been much funnier if you had written:

that was funny and wasn't lost on me.

Passacaglia 10-26-2005 03:39 PM

Anyone else getting a "failed to initialize renderer" error message when they try to launch the game?

Ben E Lou 10-26-2005 03:39 PM

Seems to be working fine on desktop. Still black screen on laptop. Multiple reports of same issue at Apolyton and at CivFanatics. I'm not going to fool with the laptop any more for now.

Ben E Lou 10-26-2005 03:42 PM

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...hreadid=140619
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=133108

ISiddiqui 10-26-2005 03:44 PM

I hear there are problems with ATI cards on Poly, but not with your chipset. Hmm... hoping it'll work with mine!

Godzilla Blitz 10-26-2005 03:59 PM

Took a break from work and worked through 20 minutes of the tutorial. Didn't play enough of Civ III to compare this to that, but on the surface of things there seem to be significant differences and enhancements.

No clue on the AI yet, as the only enemy I've encountered is a pride of lions. The Civ IV lion AI is on the spot, though.

Bee 10-26-2005 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia
Anyone else getting a "failed to initialize renderer" error message when they try to launch the game?


Sounds like an AI problem...

Bee 10-26-2005 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Godzilla Blitz
The Civ IV lion AI is on the spot, though.


That settles it, I'm heading out to buy the game.

Godzilla Blitz 10-26-2005 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui
I hear there are problems with ATI cards on Poly, but not with your chipset. Hmm... hoping it'll work with mine!


I've heard high-end ATI cards only. Mine is a 9800 Pro, and my game works fine.

moriarty 10-26-2005 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Godzilla Blitz
... on the surface of things there seem to be significant differences and enhancements.


20 minutes and that's all you came up with. I read that in 3 seconds on their press release. Now get back to playing and write a real report damnit. :p

Flasch186 10-26-2005 04:24 PM

its good

MikeVic 10-26-2005 04:26 PM

Why is Canada behind one day??? I want to play today damnit! Can someone let me romote into their computer so I can watch you play for the next 3 hours?

saldana 10-26-2005 04:51 PM

in case anyone misses me, i will be spending the evening kissing my wife's ass to get her to let me by the game on the way home from work tommorow(unless i can con her into going to get it for me after dinner, in which case you most likely wont hear from me for several days.)

Fouts 10-26-2005 05:00 PM

Just picked this up. Got lucky as Gamestop had 4 left, no strategy guides left tho. :(


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