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RPI-Fan 06-12-2005 07:12 PM

riz: Just to reiterate the idea from earlier...

It would be VERY nice if there was a "scout all unsigned prospects" button, or somesuch.

BigDPW 06-12-2005 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan
riz: Just to reiterate the idea from earlier...

It would be VERY nice if there was a "scout all unsigned prospects" button, or somesuch.


How about a "scout all players in system" which would send the scout out to look at all of players under contract to you and unsigned prospects including your NHL club, your affiliates, and prospects...

sabotai 06-12-2005 09:48 PM

*checks sigames.com again to see if download version is out yet*

:(

Eaglesfan27 06-12-2005 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai
*checks sigames.com again to see if download version is out yet*

:(



Ditto.

DaddyTorgo 06-12-2005 10:08 PM

not me. i'm just waitin here for someone to post that the DL version is out. although it's good that someone is checking every what...couple hours guys?

sabotai 06-12-2005 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo
not me. i'm just waitin here for someone to post that the DL version is out. although it's good that someone is checking every what...couple hours guys?


....couple of minutes. Well, not right now. They wouldn't release it late Sunday night. But when I get home from work tomorrow, if it isn't out by then....every couple of minutes.

damn lawyers...

MizzouRah 06-12-2005 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai
....couple of minutes. Well, not right now. They wouldn't release it late Sunday night. But when I get home from work tomorrow, if it isn't out by then....every couple of minutes.

damn lawyers...


I want it to come out just so we can get some really good discussion going on about the game.. I'm still learning.

Todd

sovereignstar 06-12-2005 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai
*checks sigames.com again to see if download version is out yet*

:(


Because you thought things were gonna be hammered down over the weekend?

Pumpy Tudors 06-13-2005 01:54 AM

I'm at the trade deadline, and my Devils need another scorer. Langenbrunner has been out almost all season with a torn ACL. In desperation, I brought Dave Andreychuk back for some leadership. He promptly strains his rotator cuff and is out until the playoffs. I've been going back and forth with Buffalo over Maxim Afinogenov, and every time I think we're close to a deal, they demand Jeff Friesen. I'm offering the rights to my second-best defenseman prospect, a third-round pick in the upcoming draft, a second-round pick in the following draft, and Jay Pandolfo, but they won't go for it. I've tried offering the rights to two of my prospects along with the picks, but they don't like that either. It seems like it's Friesen or nothing, and I ain't giving up Jeff Friesen. I'm going to keep working at it, though.

Pumpy Tudors 06-13-2005 01:57 AM

Dola

I love how the counteroffers come immediately right at the trade deadline. Teams can take a day or two during the season to come up with something, but since the deadline is practically RIGHT NOW, the offers have to come fast, and they certainly do. I've gone back and forth with the Sabres about 10 times already over this Afinogenov deal. Every frickin' time, they include Friesen in the deal. I'm still trying to work this out. It's frustrating, and I love it.

Pumpy Tudors 06-13-2005 02:02 AM

Double dola

Finally! It took my up-and-coming young center Adrian Foster, the rights to two prospects, and my third-round pick, but I got the deal done. All I get is Afinogenov, but I need a scorer who's got some speed, and he's got three more years on his contract. I hope he fits in with my system because I'm giving up a lot for him. I just need some scoring to make this playoff run happen. Now I need a backup goalie in case (God forbid) Brodeur gets hurt.

jbmagic 06-13-2005 02:09 AM

Pumpy Tudors

that awesome that you cant rip the computer teams.

seems like the cpu teams are smart.

its no fun, if you can trade anything to the cpu.

total pro basketball 2005 also has a smart cpu trade logic too.

Pumpy Tudors 06-13-2005 02:12 AM

Some might say that I got ripped, considering that Afinogenov has been, at best, a 20-goal scorer, but I'm going to attribute that to playing in Buffalo for 5 years. :) For a while there, I thought that they absolutely would not consider any deal that didn't include Jeff Friesen, but I finally got it done after tons of negotations. Even if Afinogenov doesn't pan out, I had a lot of fun just trying to pry him out of Buffalo.

I have a feeling that I'm going to get fired at the end of the season for making that move, though. :D

Pumpy Tudors 06-13-2005 02:14 AM

BWAHAHAHAHA! Jaromir Jagr just got traded to Atlanta! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

JeffR 06-13-2005 03:20 AM

Heh, he got traded to Boston in my game. I like to imagine the expression on Harry Sinden's face as he signs Jagr's paychecks. :D

(And the B's still aren't doing anything with him in the lineup - 8th in East in mid-2007-08, and Samsonov and Thornton want to be traded...)

Pumpy Tudors 06-13-2005 03:45 AM

My Devils missed the playoffs by one point. One point. I'll be lucky if I get to stick around for another season, I think.

Honolulu_Blue 06-13-2005 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors
Double dola

Finally! It took my up-and-coming young center Adrian Foster, the rights to two prospects, and my third-round pick, but I got the deal done. All I get is Afinogenov, but I need a scorer who's got some speed, and he's got three more years on his contract. I hope he fits in with my system because I'm giving up a lot for him. I just need some scoring to make this playoff run happen. Now I need a backup goalie in case (God forbid) Brodeur gets hurt.


I picked up Foster in my 3rd season with the Caps. I grabbed him in the waiver draft. He was a 24 year old center who was never given a shot in the NHL, but had torn up the AHL the last two season (over 80 points). He can play in the show. He doesn't have the greatest skill set, but has a fantastic set of wheels. He ended up making the NHL Rookie All-Star team.

jbmagic 06-13-2005 09:11 AM

any tips for when a prospect is ready to come to the nhl?

Honolulu_Blue 06-13-2005 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic
any tips for when a prospect is ready to come to the nhl?


It varies prospect by prospect really. Some guys (not many) can make the leap right after the draft. For most it's best to let them stay in juniors or wherever for a year or two. Monitor their progress and then bring them up to your minor league team and see what happens.

Your scouts will give you an indication if the kid is ready to play or not. Also, I tend to invite my prospects to training camp so I can see how they play against NHL level talent and give my coaches a chance to watch them up close. The feedback following camp is pretty useful, though I wouldn't take it as gospel.

I don't think there is any hard rule on this. Though you can burn guys out by bringing them up too quickly. I have been pretty lucky so far and haven't had this happen. I have seen players sort of get caught up in the minors and never really develop. Though you have to wonder if that's becasue they just were never that good to begin with or is it because I never gave them a chance. Who knows?

jbmagic 06-13-2005 09:32 AM

Honolulu_blue thanks


guys i found a tip at SI forum if you wan rating to be 1-100 instead of 1-20.

If you want 1-100, open extra_config.cfg (from the database/data folder) in notepad, and add this line to the very bottom:

"ALT_DISPLAY_VALUES"



Next time you load the game up, the range will be 1-100 Smile.



i still like 1-20 myself

Honolulu_Blue 06-13-2005 11:25 AM

I just noticed an odd, but very cool thing that I had never seen before.

I sent my scouts to look over my prospects when the year began. A report came up for a defenseman, Rob Allan, I drafted last in the 4th round. He has decent defensive ratings, but isn't projected to be anything more than a no. 5 or 6 defensemen. I couldn't pass up his 18 strength and 19 aggression, however. I love me some tough, hard-hitting blueliners.

Anyways... So, I am looking at this prospect and on the "Information" screen, under "Interested" and "Future" there is a heading called "Mental Characteristics." I have never seen this "Mental Characteristics" heading before. Is this rare? Is this only for a few players? If not, how can I see other players' "Mental Characteristics"? Allan's Mental Characteristics are listed as: Realist, Competitive, Very Agressive. Me likey!!

Why can I see this for Allan, but not for any other of my prospects/players? Any thoughts? I love stuff like this.

Also, this kid is entering his 4th season in the OHL. He's dropped the gloves 20 times and has won 20 times. The undisputed Heavy Weight Champion of the OHL. I will have a place on my team for this kid in the future. Write it down.

Honolulu_Blue 06-13-2005 11:35 AM

Dola.

Ok, I just started looking at my other prospects and it seems I have this "Mental Characteristics" category for some, but not all. I guess some fellas just aren't all that special.

One is very troubling. I traded up in the first round of this past draft to grab goalie, Todd Dube. He looks fantastic and it was time to get a blue chip goalie prospect into the system.

His Mental Characteristics:
Unambitious
Realist
Mercenary
Strong Character
Relaxed

While, I think a relaxed goaltender isn't a bad thing. And I like the strong character bit, but the unambitious (lazy?) and mercenary attributes have me a bit nervous...

FrogMan 06-13-2005 11:38 AM

these mental characteristics exist in FM2005. Fwiw, the ambitious one often means a player may want to move to a team that will give him a chance of winning trophies and cups and championship. It happened to me, where an ambitious striker absolutely wanted to move out of town because he said he didn't think we could achieve as much as he wanted to. The opposite characteristics, unambitious, would then not reall mean a lazy player, but more one that doesn't really care if the team wins many trophies. Good? Bad? I'm not too sure...

FM

Ajaxab 06-13-2005 11:39 AM

I know that in FM the 'temperamental' guys are the ones to avoid if at all possible as they can become team cancers pretty quickly. If the team chemistry is as crucial as it seems to be in EHM (seems to be even moreso than in FM), then it would be especially important to run from these guys.

superbama 06-13-2005 11:42 AM

*waits for D/L to become available*

chrisj 06-13-2005 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue
Ok, I just started looking at my other prospects and it seems I have this "Mental Characteristics" category for some, but not all. I guess some fellas just aren't all that special.


You'll only see the mental characteristics on players who are regens - not for anyone who was included in the game.

Honolulu_Blue 06-13-2005 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisj
You'll only see the mental characteristics on players who are regens - not for anyone who was included in the game.


Gotcha. That was actually what I thought, especially since they have become much more prevalent in later drafts.

DaddyTorgo 06-13-2005 01:38 PM

i didn't think i was going to die without it, but now i think I might.

*waiting for d/l*

MizzouRah 06-13-2005 01:58 PM

die another day daddy torgo.. you're stronger than us weak people... :)

DaddyTorgo 06-13-2005 02:03 PM

i'm confused...i've been up since 4am...wtf does that mean Mizzou?

Booj 06-13-2005 02:17 PM

I think he means you're stronger because you've waited while the people who have the game stopped waiting a while ago... :)

DaddyTorgo 06-13-2005 02:47 PM

ah okay. i thought that's what he meant :)

sabotai 06-13-2005 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar
Because you thought things were gonna be hammered down over the weekend?


You should learn to read the rest of the posts before replying.

sachmo71 06-13-2005 04:34 PM

Quick question...do we now have a 2-D match engine in EHM 2005?

sovereignstar 06-13-2005 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai
You should learn to read the rest of the posts before replying.


What the hell are you talking about? The fact that other guys are being impatient over the weekend?

sabotai 06-13-2005 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar
What the hell are you talking about? The fact that other guys are being impatient over the weekend?


I said this in a post before your reply

"Well, not right now. They wouldn't release it late Sunday night"

Obviously I didn't think it was coming out over the weekend. You tried to "zing" me and failed miserably. Like I said, before you try to make someone look stupid, you should read the rest of the posts or else you'll end up looking like a fool.

sovereignstar 06-13-2005 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai
I said this in a post before your reply

"Well, not right now. They wouldn't release it late Sunday night"

Obviously I didn't think it was coming out over the weekend. You tried to "zing" me and failed miserably. Like I said, before you try to make someone look stupid, you should read the rest of the posts or else you'll end up looking like a fool.


Blah blah fuckety blah. Save the sad smiley for something important next time.

sabotai 06-13-2005 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar
Blah blah fuckety blah. Save the sad smiley for something important next time.


Geez man. Who put sand in your vagina today? Settle down.

klayman 06-13-2005 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sachmo71
Quick question...do we now have a 2-D match engine in EHM 2005?


Snap shot views only. It's a very jerky picture of the action, but a better picture than EHM 2004 gave you. And this opinion comes from only watching a couple of replays of goals. I let my head coach manage my team, so I don't watch the play by play at all, where the 2d match engine might be completely different.

Booj 06-13-2005 05:15 PM

Riz,

When I export the game report to HTML on my Mac, the score is wrong (both cases the score was 3-1, and it showed up as 2-1) and whenever there is supposed to be a team name (next to goals, penalties or on top of the stats (faceoff, etc...) it is blank.

I assume this is because I have a Mac... but I'm not totally sure.

I would post this on the SI forums, but I can't get a username with my gmail account.

MizzouRah 06-13-2005 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Booj
Riz,

When I export the game report to HTML on my Mac, the score is wrong (both cases the score was 3-1, and it showed up as 2-1) and whenever there is supposed to be a team name (next to goals, penalties or on top of the stats (faceoff, etc...) it is blank.

I assume this is because I have a Mac... but I'm not totally sure.

I would post this on the SI forums, but I can't get a username with my gmail account.


I had a 3-0 game that showed up as 3-1 in the HTML.


Todd

MizzouRah 06-13-2005 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo
ah okay. i thought that's what he meant :)


Blah.. I was referencing Die Another Day - you know 007? :) ..and the fact you've waiting longer than me paying $5.99 for two night shipping to get the game now.. that's having patience. ;)

DaddyTorgo 06-13-2005 05:28 PM

well it's less about having patience and more about like...having enough else to do

MizzouRah 06-13-2005 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo
well it's less about having patience and more about like...having enough else to do


That's always a good thing as well.

jbmagic 06-13-2005 11:04 PM

i still playing the gold demo...waiting for the DD download or when it comes here to the states.


in the meantime, i am playing the NHL league. how do i bring up minor league players to my NHL roster.

i goto the LA kings minor league AHL and ECHL, and i know the players in green, i can bring to my NHL team. but i dont see how to do it.

thanks

RPI-Fan 06-13-2005 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic
i still playing the gold demo...waiting for the DD download or when it comes here to the states.


in the meantime, i am playing the NHL league. how do i bring up minor league players to my NHL roster.

i goto the LA kings minor league AHL and ECHL, and i know the players in green, i can bring to my NHL team. but i dont see how to do it.

thanks


When you go to "Action..." on their profile screen, there should be a "Move To..." option, where you would select LA Kings.

jbmagic 06-13-2005 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan
When you go to "Action..." on their profile screen, there should be a "Move To..." option, where you would select LA Kings.




thanks so much.

i was going crazy trying to find it :)

klayman 06-13-2005 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan
When you go to "Action..." on their profile screen, there should be a "Move To..." option, where you would select LA Kings.


Another way, which gives you a more complete picture on your teams, is at the roster screen use the view button and select Roster Management. This will allow you to move your players between all your farm clubs while still showing you where everybody is. (Waiver rules still apply of course)

MizzouRah 06-13-2005 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klayman
Another way, which gives you a more complete picture on your teams, is at the roster screen use the view button and select Roster Management. This will allow you to move your players between all your farm clubs while still showing you where everybody is. (Waiver rules still apply of course)


Yes, that's a great screen.


Todd

Bee 06-14-2005 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MizzouRah
I had a 3-0 game that showed up as 3-1 in the HTML.


Todd


I reported something similar from the demo (maybe even in this thread, I don't remember). Hopefully it gets fixed in the next patch.

B


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