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Is there really a world where the SC gives a sitting president absolute immunity?
I just can't see it. Should be a 9-0 decision. |
oh boy Marjorie Taylor Green just held a press conference with many of her other insurrectionists where she chided the media for calling them insurrectionists because they are all lying and should be ashamed...Jim jordan and the republican judiciary committee members put out a tweet saying that president trump did nothing wrong and the case against him is ridiculous
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Judge Cannon's ruling on protecting witnesses and documents should be grounds to have her removed from the case. Her ruling overturns and goes against how classified information is handled, which she has no say in.
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Sadly Conway is trending on twitter right now because Trump is giving a speech here at Coastal Carolina. :(
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Not getting a lot of coverage from what I can see but the false elector scheme in Michigan went on trial today, and there have been some interesting reporting there.
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fox getting prepared to not cover Stormy Daniels/Trump trial which is now starting in late march
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Kinda hard for me to judge from a non-lawyer background. I think I was mistaken also that this was the trial, but part of the pre-trial process. The Detroit newspapers seem to be covering it: Prosecutor describes elector plot as 'conspiracy' tied to Trump team |
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yes but what is your opinion as a twitter, facebook, and constant forum poster? |
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They seem to have evidence that there was a conspiracy to overturn the election results in Michigan. They flipped at least one of the false electors to testify to that. |
Sounds like they are admitting to committing crimes but feigning ignorance of the law?
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Supreme Court conferencing today. All of the filings on Trump's motion for a stay pending further proceedings in his immunity appeal have been submitted.
At this point, the Court could (1) grant the stay and expedite nothing (so no trial before election); (2) deny the stay (trial almost certain before election); (3) grant the stay, but consider the motion as a petition for cert, grant that and expedite hearing it (either holding that Trump is immune or holding that he is not and then letting the trial go and then probably have the trial before the election, but it would be close). And they could do any of those as quickly as this afternoon or as late as . . . whenever they want |
dola: Whatever they do, I hope they speak with one voice.
And I could also see a 9-0 Trump Stays on the Ballot decision out of Colorado at the same time as a short order denying the stay in the J6 case with no noted dissents. |
Does anyone really think they won’t get the five votes to stay so he can run out the clock? Garland really fucked this up.
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As much as I'd like to see him in an orange suit, I just don't see how they (or any court) can say he can't qualify for the ballot if he hasn't actually been convicted of insurrection.
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Justices Thomas and Alito are MAGA. They would he happy to delay. Justice Gorsuch is a judicial arsonist. He'd vote for delay based on some reason he came up with just to prove to himself that he was smarter than everyone else. But I still think (I'm not sure, but I think) that Justices Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett might just want Trump to go away. And letting his criminal trial go forward ASAP is a way to (possibly) do that. |
I also lean that only Thomas and Alito wants an Executive branch that has power with no consequences. I don't think the other Justices are for completely cutting out the Judicial branch from the balance of power.
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I have been listening to the Fanni Willis hearing the last two days, and the most disappointing thing I have heard is that she approached former Governor Roy Barnes to be the special prosecutor for the case and he turned it down. This all would have been quite entertaining if he had been willing to take the job. He turned it down because he had been at the end of white supremacist death threats before and he was not willing to go back to that.
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I would hope the immunity decision would be 9-0 but I don't have faith. I can definitely see them voting for the stay to allow Trump to run out the clock. |
As someone watching this from the outside, what is the play here? If Trump is officially the Republican nominee and he gets convicted of any of these things, doesn't that leave them without a contender?
Or does he have "immunity" if he becomes president again and then he can just wipe the slate of all these things? |
Being convicted does not keep him off the ballot.
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There are polls that ask if Trump is convicted will you support him and a good 50% of indies and 25% of GOP say no. I just think they'll come up with some other way to rationalize it and it would still be close. Don't know how it would work if he wins. If he's President from house arrest in Maralago or if they make the VP defacto President.
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judge in the Trump Org fraud case penalizes Trump about 355 million and he and Weisselberg can not operate a business in NY for 3 years, Trump's sons 2 years.
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I asked Chat GPT to make a treatment for a movie about such a wacky scenario, as a comedy. The president is portrayed as the good-guy protagonist - I did another one to make the president the bad guy, but, it was a little too on the nose and kind of depressing.
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I wonder if Trump is tired of all this winning yet?
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Damn, this is going to cost the Saudis some real money.
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With interest (5% for each year after the fraudulent valuations), and the defamation award, I think he needs to put up $500 MILLION to appeal, and he can't do any relationship with a bank chartered or registered in New York State. Which is pretty much like, all of them?
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Or the RNC. |
Ma and pa redneck will pay for it tho
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That's a lot of digital trading cards. |
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That loathsome son of a motherless whore and that bitch are the most apt tandem ever. Hellspawn and hellspawn. My #1 goal in life remains to live long enough to piss on that bastards grave. |
Somehow I knew that would be your reaction, Jon.
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ma and pa redneck don't know nuthin 'bout no newfangled online whatchacallit... |
why didn't they just object to all this shit since it has nothing to do with trump?
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My immense hatred for Barnes is not news to anyone. There really isn't anyone on the planet I despise more. |
This isn’t true
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His $400 shoes have.got this. |
Peter Navarro looking to go to jail even earlier than expected:
Judge threatens ex-Trump aide Peter Navarro with contempt in records fight - POLITICO |
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You missed a couple zeros. I can see a rich guy buying it to ingratiate himself with Trump in anticipation of his win. Cheaper than a lunch with Warren Buffet. Quote:
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Everything trump releases crashes in value within 6 months. His supporters eat this shit up and then no one else wants to buy it and it ends up not being worth anything. These shoes won't be any different. |
But I sold my kidney to buy all of Trump's NFTs!
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I'm kind of surprised that Truth Social still exists. I would have thought they would have missed a key infrastructure-related invoice by now.
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They're getting loans from a Russian bank tied to Putin. They can probably operate at a loss for a long time considering foreign investment in the company is likely not about turning a profit. |
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He stole the documents because he thought he'd get paid to return them.
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What? lol
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That's a pretty common offense around here to steal stuff from Home Depot and then bring it to the customer service desk and get a refund.
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Ha, everything is a business transaction with him-pay your dues NATO members or we won't protect you anymore. i had the right to sell them to the Saudis or whomever because they were mine
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Hannity always gives softballs to try to help him create some wiggle room to make an argument and he just continues to not only swing and miss but dig himself into a deeper hole. |
It's still amazing the extent to which he just had to (1) Not incite J6, and (2) not steal a bunch of stuff on his way out the door and he'd be sitting pretty and probably very very likely to win in November.
The own goals are kind of astonishing. |
Live look in at Trump and Hannity
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Not sure where to post this. Hard to believe these two upstanding humans would produce someone capable of committing crimes. I look forward to the GOP outrage.
Rep. Lauren Boebert’s son Tyler arrested, faces 22 charges after alleged thefts |
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Her political career is over. She was ignored by the other candidates in the last debate in Colorado, which means they don't see her as a threat at all. |
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For sure. This actually gives her a chance to back out gracefully and for a legitimate reason, but she is too stupid to take it. |
The Supreme Court is going to hear arguments on the Presidential immunity issue. Oral arguments on April 22, and a decision is expected in June.
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Dola: Whatever their decision, there is now a next to zero chance that any of Trump's criminal trials will happen before the election.
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Yeah. Very little chance the opinion comes out prior to the end of June and the Justice Dept. will pull the plug rather than have a trial during the Fall.
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This is what happens when you wait 2 and a half years to charge him.
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Yup. Garland owns a lot of the blame.
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Hail Caesar!
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Like father, like son
https://www.newsweek.com/lauren-boeb...-tyler-1874680 Im sure they'll blame the LGBTQ+ community. |
He was caught on surveillance wearing a sweatshirt with his Mom's restaurant on it. Just galaxy brain stuff.
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"He once met a trans person, so he couldn't stop himself. An illegal immigrant introduced them."
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Right up there with the Anthony Weiner's :) |
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This is also an insane indictment just to satisfy Fox News people who fucked up and left an unencrypted live feed open on the internet. Indictment of Florida journalist raises troubling questions - Columbia Journalism Review Just remember that next time we hear about how Trump will shut down the press. Biden will too! |
I’m disappointed in the Court. I thought it had more respect for the law than to become a party to Trump’s delay tactics. I was wrong.
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They actually went with covid shutdowns causing him to commit crimes. |
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lol they are a creative bunch. |
Crooked judge Cannon about to push trumps trial back in the docs case.
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There aren't going to be any more trials of Trump. He's won this round.
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He will never face any real punishment for his crimes. Not sure why anyone is surprised at this point.
Can’t wait for the crimes that will highlight his second presidency because he knows he will get away with it and that is exactly where we are headed |
Trump's delays are over. He officially has to pay the 83+ million for the Carroll defamation case or else post bond. The judge said no to any delays and that he has had since January to organize his finances because this was always a possible outcome. No more delays.
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A London judge ordered trump to pay his legal fees for his failed attempt to sue someone. Came to $300000. Ya know he soooo hates people saying things about him and being told what to do. Billionaires are sick people. Even tho they have all this money they are psychos about getting rid of even one dollar.
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He doesn't have as much money as he wants us to think, at least not liquid. It is going to be a great day when he has to start selling property. |
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$92 million bond paid by probably Orban, Musk, or the RNC after Lara Trump became co-chair today. |
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yup...as much as billionaires are pussies about giving up just one cent, I am surprised anyone wants to pay his fees. |
He'll just get a "loan" from the Saudis or one of the banks he uses for money laundering. It's really not a big deal.
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judge in the Georgia disqualify DA Willis has ruled in part for each side-didn't see any of the conflict of interests trump was making, did not find witness testimonies compelling but for the sake of propriety either Willis and her whole team steps down or assistant DA Wade who had the relationship with her-not heard what Willis has decided on this:
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The irony of the comparison in levels of impropriety between what Wade & Willis did vs. what the case is actually about is yet another signifier in the decline and fall of American democracy.
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Dola: Wade officially resigned.
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I feel there's an unambiguous dichotomy between the coverage of Willis/Wade's impropriety and that of the impropriety found in the case that's actually being prosecuted, to say nothing of the greater universe of impropriety attributed to Trump and his ecosystem. And I think that's a problem for society and for democracy. And I wish I could figure out how to solve it.
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The problem with trumps degeneracy is that it’s been normalized because there is constant barrage. There are literally hundreds of things he has said and done that would disqualify anyone else but we just shrug it off as Trump being Trump.
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It's not just that - it's that the 2-party system is so big and ingrained into our society that calling out "one side" for what they are is automatically seen as being biased. Journalism is no longer about telling the truth no matter who it hurts - it's about clicks and maximum engagement. So the media is required to "both sides" everything and normalize Trump because Trump is going to be one of the two major parties' nominee. And you can't risk losing money for your investors by telling 49.9% (or 50.1%) of Americans that the politician they adore (or at best, will hold their nose and vote for because of the R behind his name) is a POS and a danger to the country. But yes, the Sideshow Bob nature of Trump is also a pretty compelling reason to keep covering him because of the clicks he generates. |
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I'd actually like to see deep fakes of Biden saying things trump has said just to prove the point. |
Trump officially told the courts this morning that he can't raise the money to appeal his NY case. More than 30 companies have said no to the loan. He's begging an appeals court for a pause on the judgement.
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It does seem weird that no one is willing to front the bond.
This guy has a ~50% shot at becoming President, and he's said that he'll hold the office like a vengeful dictator. Seems like at least one company/Saudi Arabian sheik/Russian oligarch, etc. would be willing to take the bet of him winning and being on his good side. |
So I have no idea what this whole bond thing is about?
What is it? How does it work? And why were people so shocked that he paid the one for the other case? |
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Someone gets a money judgment against you. You can appeal, but while the appeal is pending, they can start collecting from you (and would pay you back if you win the appeal). But if you post a bond, then they cannot start collecting from you. To get the bond, you put up, like, 10% of the judgment amount and/or some collateral and the company puts up a bond with the court for the full amount. Then, if you lose the appeal and your assets have suddenly vanished overseas, they can collect their money from the bond company (who can then sue you for it, but if it has gotten to that point, good luck). |
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