Just to recap what happened yesterday in here - we were all subject to an inventory switcheroo but before that I used a seance on MrBug and he turned up good.

Also we agreed that whoever ended up with the book of the dead should keep it quiet. If it's true that mau admitted to having it in the cellar thread, the switcheroo was good in that hopefully the bad guys don't have it/don't know where it is now.

Can anyone recall the specifics of the tape recorder in regards to using the book and the parchments from the study? I was trying to remember for Autumn but I forgot to take any notes about it.

Pretty convenient. The small things are starting to add up Jackal.

There was nothing saying we only had 1 wolf in the study that day.

Why didn't you pass me the scroll back like you said you were going to in the study? Unless there is another explanation of why the demon/Deadite came out of the cellar that day then I am going to be working under the theory that you summoned it.

If someone has the summon demon parchment now is the time to come forward, otherwise I'm going to assume it existed and was then used.

Nothing in the cellar even came close to explaining why that monster emerged from the cellar.

Victim #1: Darth Vilus - Dead - Human
Victim #2: Autumn - weapon
Victim #3: Chief Rum - Dead - Getz - claimed spells
Victim #4: Danny - Somewhere outside of the cellar. Reasons unknown
Victim #5: Zinto - Claims can Tunnel
Victim #6: J23 - Dead - Evil, role wasn't listed as of the time I had to leave the cellar
Victim #7: Narcizo - Dead - Human
Victim #8: bhlloy - Dead - Human
Victim #9: MrBug - Claims can Tunnel - weapon, scanned Good
Victim #10: ntndeacon - Dead - Human
Victim #11: dzilla77 - Dead - Human, Professor's student. - spells
Victim #12: mckerney - weapons
Victim #13: dubb - Scanned Good
Victim #14: The Jackal - spells
Victim #15: mauboy - spells
Victim #16: Commo_Soldier - Dead - Annie
Victim #17: tyketime - Dead. Human.

McKerney I see you here. Are you thinking Jackal today too? If not who?

I'm at work right now so I've been and out of the thread, sorry for not replying sooner. The Jackal looks like the best target right now going on forgetting to pass the ax, though I honestly have to say I don't have a good read on anything so far this game. So I don't have a strong feeling that he's a wolf, but I feel it is better than anything else I have to go on.

Really dubb? I never said I was definitely going to pass the scroll back for sure, just that I could to prove I had it but I don't recall you asking me to. And why would a demon be summoned in a different room? I'm sorry but you are off base with the accusations on me.

I couldn't pass the ax early in the day because I had no idea if mckerney or autumn were staying. Then mckerney said he was leaving, changed his mind, and autumn left. At that time I was very busy last night packing and forgot to get a pass order in but I'll pass it tonight. I'm sorry if it looks convenient but it's not my fault people couldn't decide if they wanted to stay here or not. You have gone after autumn, tyke, and me at least and I don't recall you going like this at any wolves whereas I was going to vote CR (you'll say a convenient missed vote but I thought I had cast one and then got busy) and I voted J twice as well as cleared bug (which doesn't clear me but I had no need to do that if I was a wolf). I know you've been cleared but I don't think I've done much to suggest I'm not on the good side.

vote Danny

Dont get a good vibe from whatever he is up to if he is still alive, and I don't have a particularly strong other candidate.

I'm posting from my phone and will likely be busy around deadline. If there's anything you want to ask me dubb feel free. I hope someone comes forth with the parchment, did you have any idea what the monster looked like down there?

Jackal why did you ask me to head to the cellar and then later change your mind and decide to stay here. That P-ed me off yesterday too as I asked you several questions in the cellar only to have CF inform me you were infact not down there. I put 2 and 2 together and figured out you must have changed your mind.

Nope just what was posted up here by CF. A tree-like creature with a demonic voice.

My issue with voting Danny:

1. Are we absolutely 100% positive he is alive?

2. If he is still alive, and we kill him, how do we know if he is villager/wolf?

I am pretty sure that was what Chief turned into after he was voted for.

I agree with this. If Danny is alive there is a decent chance he is bad just because he has done a good job avoiding us the whole second part of the game(or the whole game for me). Voting him now though would force us to go searching for him.

And if he is a wolf and gets lynched don't we need someone there with a weapon to take care of the body.

Honestly at this point I think you either believe the remaining wolves are Jackal-???(Bug?) or McKerney-???.

I think Danny is probably dead, Zinto is in the clear b/c I don't see the hand thing happening to a wolf, I was scanned good by a confirmed good, Mauboy had the book of the dead and was open about it which to me says he is probably on the up and up, and Autumn has been extremely helpful with his lists/chopping up baddies.

Last night J23 made me promise him after the deadline but before the lynch result that when he showed villager that I not let Jackal slip away.

Would have been the perfect time to as a wolf make it seem like that either he or Jackal had to be a wolf and that it wasn't possible for them both to be.

But I thought CR died in the cellar? This creature was in the cabin after the night deadline the day CR died. CR died during the day and then after the night this creature was in the cabin. I have a hard time buying it was CR.

Didn't someone scan and clear MrBug?

Jackal did.

If you think Jackal is a wolf then his scan becomes a 50/50 proposition. He either did it to cover for a wolf or to buy trust.

Ah, got it.

Well I didn't realize the creature was in the Cabin so that is my mistake.

This is the post in question.

unvote Jackal
Vote McKerney

Fine, you aren't with me then it seems you are against me.

Since I have seen the corpse in both places it has come to my attention that the creature that came up here from the cellar is in fact Chief.

I was in the cellar. CR was clearly killed in the cellar. He was not killed up here and then fell back down.

Well I know for a FACT that it is CR's corpse. You can lynch me to see if I would have a reason to lie about it, if that is what you feel you need to do.

I changed my mind in thread well before the deadline as far as I can remember. I wanted someone to remain behind to act as a link between those that went to the cellar and others. Problem is I can't remember exactly what was said about the 3 parchments and book in the study thread, but I do intend on staying in the cabin unless we are strongly compelled to move.

Huh? A little unclear on how I'm not with you here. If it's no vote yet I was waiting until I got home from work to vote.

1) no

2) from what I have gathered from other players no one is certain if he is alive but anytime people have claimed to possibly be around him recently (like bug when he went to the woods) nothing good has come of it.

I understand the concerns about the corpse hacking though. We might have to go as a group at some point to check it out but hopefully he'll be forced to come here instead.

Are you skilled with weapons dubb?

Sounds like Zinto is pretty sure about the CR/demon thing. I don't know where my parchment went but it sounded like it might be needed in combination with others to do good (instead of just summoning evil which is prob what a wolf would do). Not my problem anymore unless we want to admit to having parchments that may be use together and you need me as a spells guy. But I wouldnt cast anything like that without consensus.

Well we probably don't have the firepower for a Danny vote right now with split groups so I'll just go ahead and vote for the person here who has nothing really for or against him. I agree me and him have the least positives. Whether that makes him evil I do not know, but until
We have more info on Danny..

unvote Danny
Vote mckerney

Probably out until deadline now, will try to come back but can't guarantee, bad service

Absolutely. I'm already locked and loaded for bear, but if you would like to give me more firepower it would be put to good use.

I can't imagine how Zinto could be sure that is CR. Seems a very silly thing to waste an in game power on.

An old friend joins the party. It jumps on Zinto's face. It clasps on and pulls his nose up to look like a pig.

Hand votes Zinto

Sounds about right^

I am certain because I am awesome.

I am not saying that Jackal should be cleared because the tree monster was not summoned by him I am saying that he should not be voted for because of that.

While Jackal apparently cleared me, I am still just a villager. Whether or not he's good or bad

Can I have some money?

Neter Neter Neter

Vote - McKerney

Jackal obviously scanned me and has given me some support, so I'll lend him some right now

The hand leaps off of Zinto onto the floor and scitters around beneath your feet. You don't know where it went.

Hand unvote Zinto

Unvote McKerney
Vote jackal

Seems the hand is setting up a switch. I hate that hand.

The creature was CR that solves that but there are other reasons to vote Jackal.

mckerney - Jackal (838), MrBug (850)
Jackal - mckerney (836), Hand (852), dubb (854)

Cabin - dubb, Jackal

Alright I am going to vote for McKerney for one reason only: the hand voted for Jackal and it looks like it is trying to get us to vote for Jackal because of it.

Vote McKerney
Investigate Cabin

mckerney - Jackal (838), MrBug (850), Zinto (857)
Jackal - mckerney (836), Hand (852), dubb (854)

Cabin - dubb, Jackal

Nothing shook out like I thought it would. Can't risk a tie.

mckerney - Jackal (838), MrBug (850), Zinto (857) dubb (860)
Jackal - mckerney (836), Hand (852),

Cabin - dubb, Jackal

Unfortuanately I'm thinking villager/villager with the lack of anything. I think Mauboy is our last wolf.

Hey, I'm back.

Autumn (good guy) was unfortunately night killed last night but before he died he passed me a switch spell, which means I could trade places with anybody at night, which I figure I could use tonight on Danny and see if it does bring him in here since people are curious if he's still alive.

I did not pick anything up or find anything of interest in the cellar

DOesn't look like much happened up here today.

I'm off to play Civ.

Even though it's too early to vote, why are you voting me?

You we're the vote on Tyketime that allowed the hand to make the switch. Autumn died with just you in the room. It seemed villager/villager yesterday and if that is the case we are running out of suspects.

Autumn seemed to trust mau for revealing he had the book, it would be an odd move to kill a person who trusted you, even if Autumn has been helpful. Does that mean we need to send someone down to hack up his body?

I would like to see if switching with Danny brings him in here, we need to know if he's still around.

Autumn also thought it was odd that he revealed he had the book and was not killed for it.

I would love to hear you suspect Jackal. If Mau is innocent then you have to believe that Danny is good. If you are good then so is Bug. Commo was good so that makes his scan of me good. That leaves Zinto by my count.

I'm not saying I don't think mau isn't bad, just trying to talk it out. I haven't been in the cellar so I have no idea of the discussion between mau and autumn down there, just what he said when he came up. But mau does seem the likeliest person.

What leads you to the mau being good = Danny being good? I'm still very curious about Danny but I guess it doesn't help to vote for someone that we don't know is alive or where they are if they are.

I'm not going to kill the only guy who thought I was good.

I know Dubb was cleared so early on - there has to be a conversion and if there is one he's the highest likely candidate due to be cleared so early. He's been jumping on people early and often and typically incorrectly. He's getting way too much leeway with it all. I'll be able to discuss more later hopefully. I know there is more that will hopefully clear me a little bit, too.

Considering we are down to five no harm in revealing this isn't possible. I'm roled. If this was your play for the day you are in trouble.

This was the second time Autumn and I were downstairs together - just the two of us. Why didn't he die the first time? To lynch me because he didn't come up this time is the wrong move.

Dubb, you're Bruce Campbell's character then? Good. Who has the necromonicon or whatever it's called? We need to pass it to Dubb and I'm sure something will trigger once he has it in his hands. We've got something banging on the house outside and it doesn't sound good at all. Perhaps the book will put that to an end before it hurts us.

I will be in and out today.

As far as who to go today, if it's true Bruce can't be converted then I'd be fine leaving him out as a conversion, so that would leave Bug as a possibility there or Jackal. Zinto I'm leaning towards good because of the hand thing, although having two votes as a wolf could be damn powerful if Zinto is a wolf.

How do you know there are five left? This sounds like you know more than you lead on.

I've been running under the assumption that Danny has been dead for days. With the trees surrounding us and the cabin boarded up I cant imagine a game mechanic where Danny is alive.

And I thought I read somewhere someone saying they checked on Danny with a spell and got nothing but I guess that may have been Mau talking about the switch spell.

I never cast the switch spell because I had two people already wanting to vote me before the night ended so I put a stop to the spell so that I could see what was going on in here rather than be wherever I may have ended up.

I was actually thinking I'd get lynched last night since I would have been an easy target to say, "let's just kill him". So I didn't expect to get to come up to the main cabin last night.

So you're acting under the assumption that it's Zinto, Dubb, Bug, mau, jackal remaining? What if it's Danny outside that's banging outside the house? SOMETHING or SOMEONE is banging on the house. Maybe they're not allowed inside the house and our best option is to definitely stay inside. Does anybody have any ideas what it could be if it's not Danny?

It's the trees man. Haven't you seen the evil dead? The trees are out of control.

I saw one of them. Not super familiar anymore.

I am going to be super busy tomorrow except from approximately 2:30ish till 3:30ish so hopefully I will be of some use then.

*BOOM BOOM BOOM BACK TO THE OUTSIDE*

Dubb has been cleared, I tend to believe him when he says he is roled, and to vote him at this point with a questionable person would be folly.

Zinto has the possession angle going for him - it's certainly possible a wolf team did that to themselves to cause distraction or shift suspicion, but it's enough for now to give him a pass.

Danny.. we don't know if he's in the game or not. I would have to think he will be forced into the same place as us if he is.

VOTE MAU

Well, I forgot Bug, but that one is obvious. Another conversion target that should definitely not be voted before mau.

vote jackal
I still think I am being set up. I didnt kill autumn he was nk'd. In all reality if i wwas a wolf i would claim to have killed autumn and called him a wolf. If bug is dead this is likely the last day which i would have bought the extra day to confirm my story downstairs thus probably winning. . and I cant shake the feeling that we are the last four remaining players so this vote is key.

The vote made by the hand looks like it could have been made to create the illusion that it was clearing jackal. Reading back zinto pointed out that it looks like the hand wants you to vote jackal...a daring yet stellar move by jackal if he's the last wolf.

I'm typing through my phone so I am probably not making my point very clear with this. I will. Be out for the afternoon so feel free to add to this and I'll catch up later.

I can only see 3 reasons why dubb is alive at this point:

A) His role grants him some sort of protection and the wolves know it by scan or by attempting to kill him before

B) He has been converted to a wolf

C) Wolves can only kill people in the same room as them and as such mau was downstairs yesterday

I find C by far the most likely of the three, so I doubt I'll be convinced to move my vote.

Not that dubb would even be my next target, that was just a roundabout way of saying why I tend to agree mau is the likeliest wolf.

I wonder if we voted for the hand if we could get rid of it

Not that I'm suggesting this course of action right now, obviously don't want to give a free NK opportunity

I vote for "A" and to a lesser extent I vote "C". I would also throw in the fact that I was really doing their work for a while so they had little reason to off me while I was on a wild goose chase.

The night Bholly was killed. What room was Mau in? What room was Jackal in? If they were in a room alone or with just one other I would say C could be damning of them.