On the other hand, at least they're good enough to be frustrating. Imagine having Georgia Tech & Tennessee as your two teams to follow this year. Watching them is like watching the Wizard of Oz, varying displays of no courage, no brains, and no heart. At least GT can claim a talent gap for some of their problems, the Vols don't have that excuse very often.

cartman--Gentleman's bet on the game tonight? Texas is favored, but I'll go straight up.

I understand I am fortunate to be a UCLA fan, to follow such a great program. But that doesn't mean I have every right to my gripes about this team. For instance, UT and GT are normally both very good in football (GT is now, UT has been hsitorically). I wouldn't question you being upset at 8-4 seasons from major football teams of your schools there, but as a UCLA fan, I would have been thrilled to be 8-4 at just about any time since 1999. It's all perspective--we all have the right to be upset about how our team is doing in relation to how it should be doing.

Plus, today was about heart and getting it done when things aren't coming easy, and that, IMO, is inexcusable. That's about effort and desire, and you don't need good genetics or good basketball habits to get that.

Umm ... I wasn't questioning that.

I was very slightly offering a tiny sliver of perspective and otherwise mostly bitching about my own dismal state of men's hoops fan affairs.

And my women's hoops fan affairs ain't a whole lot better this year either, if anything they're even more like what you described.

Congrats to Maryland on an outstanding overtime win over North Carolina today with their postseason hopes quite likely on the line. Maryland withstood a Carolina run in the second half, and played outstanding in the final minute of regulation to erase a 6 point deficit. UNC didn't handle Maryland's press down the stretch very well.

UNC had a pretty major mental lapse in the final minute of overtime, trailing with 36 seconds left, the players on the court apparently didn't realize they needed to foul, allowing the clock to run down to 11 seconds before finally fouling an 85% free throw shooter.

Also, MAJOR kudos to Gary Williams for instructing Maryland to foul UNC in the final 10 seconds of a 3 point game instead of just defending and letting Ellington try a game-tying 3 pointer. You don't see that nearly often enough and Maryland executed perfectly.

I'm disappointed that UNC picks up their 3rd conference loss, I would have liked to have seen them lock up the ACC Regular season before their final game vs Duke. That seems less likely now. But really I dont think UNC played bad today, Maryland just came up huge in a critical situation at home for them.

Florida State is now in second place in the ACC. Hopefully GT, VT, or Duke can beat UNC and allow the Noles to claim first place, I doubt it happens but a guy can dream.

If FSU can win their last 4 games they absolutely deserve first place heh. at BC, vs Clemson, at Duke, vs Virginia Tech. FSU has talent but if they win those final 4 it'll be a miracle. UNC having 3 losses makes the ACC a lot more exciting since there's still 4 teams with 4 losses, that's for sure.


Carolina's game at Virginia Tech next week is going to be a lot like tonight's game I imagine. A road game against a bubble team that has talent but is inconsistent and desperately needs another quality win.

OU/Texas has been great.

Interestingly, the internet fans have been giving similar props to Sid for doing the same thing at the end of State's win against UVa (another blown 15-plus point lead!). Seems to be a trendy thing to do now. :)

With what's happened so far, the ACC is just getting murkier. Right now, it looks like five definites as FSU continues to pile up wins. BC slipped back into the "maybe" pile again with their loss at Miami, while I think VT is toast now. Maryland was thought to be done, but with the UNC win, they suddenly have to be talked about considering their early-season demolition of Michigan State is on the books (then again, so's that ghastly loss to Morgan State).

BC is in the best shape for that sixth bid. They do have the Duke and Carolina wins, but they've now been swept by Miami and still have those ugly non-conference losses, so it's a little trickier to justify them.

Miami did win, but I think they're in too deep a hole at this point. Being 10th in the conference this late in the season isn't going to cut it. If it were, then State should also be considered since they're in ninth and have a similar overall record. No one's talking about State being an at-large candidate so I think it's also a dead-letter for Miami.

Looking back over it all, I think it's going to be difficult for the ACC to get more than five in right now and definitely not more than six (barring ACC tournament chaos). Yes, the SEC and the mid-majors are struggling, but nobody in the muck that's the middle of the ACC is doing anything much right now to assert claims to possible bids lost by other conferences at the moment.

Yep. All these bubble teams have had their chances, but instead of a couple teams stepping up they're just all beating each other out of the tournament. I don't think any of them have an impressive enough resume to get in with an 8-8 conference record.



How do you feel about NC State's prospects now for next year?

Looking through their schedule... 5 point loss at Davidson, 3 point loss to Marquette, 2 point loss at Florida, OT loss to Va Tech, they've won 4 of their last 6 and should be an NIT team... maybe this year hasn't been as bad as it seemed like a few weeks ago? Any hope that Lowe has them heading in the right direction?

That was a pretty great game. It sucked to lose Blake for the second half, but the team played in a great way without him and Warren did his best to take over. Would have liked to win, but I don't feel nearly as awful as usual after losing...especially to them.

Nice bounce-back win for Washington today. USC is arguably a worse matchup for the Huskies than UCLA, but they overcame a rare off-night from Justin Dentmon and only 6 points from Jon Brockman to get the win, their first in the Galen Center. Combined with WSU's big upset of UCLA and Oregon State knocking off Cal, the Huskies are back to a 1.5 game lead on UCLA and Cal, and a 1 game lead on ASU (pending tomorrow's result).

Washington likely clinched their tournament berth today, and took a big step closer to their first regular season conference title since 1985. What a difference a year makes...

Fucking Miners. Fucking Memphis...

Yeah...I feel ya...Fucking Stanford, too. I'm beginning to think Mike Montgomery was the only reason we had a team worth rooting for in the first place.

So the table is set. MU/KU/OU all have a shot now at the Big 12 championship. What a finishing run this schedule provides.......

Feb. 23 Kansas at Oklahoma
Mar. 1 Missouri at Kansas
Mar. 4 Oklahoma at Missouri

Anybody can win it with a 2-0 record in the above games assuming they take care of business in their other games.

Honestly, I have no idea. Gonzalez, Tracy Smith, and CJ Williams have come a long way in the past few weeks, giving some indication that this staff is getting through and teaching the players. We've also got a strong recruiting class coming in and are still trying to lure John Wall (though I can't imagine why since he's a one-and-doner and I wouldn't want him on my team especially after what happened to the team with the last one-and-doner in JJ Hickson).

The development at the point has clearly become what Sid will be about in my opinion. His first year he had senior Engin Atsur at point and Atsur was clearly the difference-maker in getting that team into the NIT (the team collapsed without him when he went out with injury in the Michigan game that year, though they did win that one in particular). Last year, with Degand and Gonzalez at point, the team was totally out of sync and with Hickson taking time from upperclassmen who weren't very gracious about giving it up, it made for a perfect storm of bad basketball and bad chemistry. Now, the team seems to be much more cohesive and Gonzalez has really taken off the last few weeks (yesterday's first half and the UNC second half aside) and it's shown in the results (wins in three of the last four games and a competitive game on the road at UNC which is a damn sight better than what happened last year). If the new guys can come in and pick up the slack from the graduates and mesh well, there's every chance for an upper division finish, but it's still a very cautious optimism. State was projected for big things in Sid's second year and everything blew up on them, so it will be interesting to see if this next team will be different from that team in handling the increased expectations.


Right now, Lowe's opinion is only as good as his last game result (which is true of many fanbases, but State's is particularly volatile).

At this point, I think the NIT's pretty much a given as they really can't finish below .500 at this point and should be able to bag another couple of wins to remove any doubt.

Renardo Sidney commits to USC but I can't decide if this is good news or not.

It'll be interesting to see how they sort out the Big East.

Syracuse probably saved itself by playing a decent non conference schedule for once. Their conference-game-only RPI is 49, but their non-conference RPI is 4 (wins against Kansas, Memphis, Florida).

A team like Georgetown seems easily talented enough to be an tournament team (and better than any of the mid-major bubble teams), but they'd have to have pulled upset after upset after upset in the Big East to have a chance. They've played 11 games against the RPI top 50 - compared to teams like Utah State who have only played 2, or Butler, who's only played 3.

I'm not saying Georgetown deserves to be there, but it makes me a little less sympathetic to a team like Butler, who loses back-to-back to Loyola (IL), and Milwaukee.

All starts with the game on Big Monday this week

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I'm assuming the top 7 are in, though Syracuse and West Virginia could theoretically still play their way out if they bomb down the stretch.

Cincinnati and Providence have very unimpressive resumes and need to do more than just finish at .500 in the Big East(or need an impressive tournament run) to get in IMO.


Definite double edged sword there. 11 games vs the RPI top 50 makes your NCAA Tournament Case fairly easy to make. Go 3-8 in those games(as georgetown has) and you're probably not going to make the tournament. Go 6-5 and you're likely in.

Well, if he needs to go to a school willing to pay him, look the other way when he and/or his handlers get in trouble, "help" him out with out the academic side of things and let him play in a major conference with a respected coach, he couldn't choose a better school. ;)

Looks like Blake Griffin probably won't start tonight vs. Kansas and it's questionable whether he'll even play in the game.

From ESPN.com..........

Yikes. Just reported here in KC that Blake Griffin will not play tonight against Kansas. HUGE opportunity for KU to get a leg up on the regular season championship with a road win tonight.

For a "share" of the Big 12 regular season championship. Doesn't matter, I think we win anyway, but obviously, it's in doubt.

Sitting out for a concussion in a basketball game? You better get on that floor, son.

Oh, he wants to play. The trainer and doctor are the one's who make the call and no coach is going to go against what they have to say.

Since Oklahoma is in, the remaining games mean very little compared to getting Griffin healthy.

I'm wondering of Griffin suffered a concussion in a practice, and he aggravated it during the Texas game. The replays of the contact with Pittman don't look bad at all.

They didn't show it on TV, but Capel indicated another play (which Wilbon referred to on PTI) where Balbay's elbow got the back of Blake's head. Also, if it was Pittman, a hit to the nose can cause more damage than a similar hit to other areas (so say people who have more medical knowledge than I do). But yeah, Pittman hit him hard enough to get a bleeding nose, but it didn't look like it would have caused too much and certainly didn't look intentional or anything of the like.

I'm not sure what this game means now.

If Griffin were playing, I wouldn't give us much of a chance so a close game would mean we were better than I thought. As it is, if we win- it's a nice road win but means a lot less without Griffin in the lineup. If we lose- we don't know how good OU without Griffin is but that makes the Sooners look that much better.

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Way to play no defense, KU

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This game just has a weird ebb and flow to it (and it's clear the announcers don't know the score): OU goes on a 20-2 run and then KU goes 18-0. Feels like one of those crazy tourney games.

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That's the way the game went in Austin the other night as well. Big runs back and forth.

This really is feeling like a tourney game

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Holy crap, it's raining threes!

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Great game...

Holy crap! Again! From at least 25'!

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Looks like Kansas has this wrapped up.

Fun game- still doesn't prove much with Griffin out.

Now for the long week and Mizzou at the Fieldhouse on Sunday.

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Ok, watching Sportscenter again- ice water in the veins from Collins. Those two threes were just sick- pure clutch and sweet looking.

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Just got back. Collins is a heck of a player...to me a more polished version of Willie Warren. Aldrich also showed how good he is at rebounding, but OU relies on Griffin a lot for that, obviously so I only really know what I already knew about him.

At least we made the run at the end to get back by three a couple of times. I wish Cade Davis had made the two free throws, but it was nice to see the team pressure and cause some trouble for KU.

Gotta give it up to Bill Self in the driver's seat for a Big 12 title again. He's one heck of a coach...I really can't think of anyone I'd rather have right now in charge of my basketball team. He set the table for Weber at Illinois for a 2nd place finish and he's won one himself now.

It's a lot different game if Griffin plays. That said, you guys look really strong without the best player in the country. You're going to make some big noise come tourney time when he's back.

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Yeah, when he's out we have guys who can play. The inside isn't there as much. The thing is when Blake plays he's pretty much always on so having guys outside who are streaky aren't bad...you just find the hot hand and usually at least someone will be open. When he's not playing you're playing 5-on-5 so you're less likely to get that look outside. When you've got some inexperience like Wright and Patillo inside, you're going to look a little lost compared to Aldrich.

But, these two losses will be something the team can build on. Hopefully we can get back at you in OKC in two and a half weeks.

We'll see. Mizzou will definitely have their say. I think Texas is still lurking out there, too, as well as someone like K-State. Even Okie State has a chance to do some damage but pretty much every game they've done what's expected- they win and lose the games they're supposed to and on a neutral court, they should lose to all 5 of the previously mentioned teams.

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I'd qualify that statement. He's a heckuva player when he puts his mind to it. He's been very inconsistant at times. He'll go on huge runs and then just disappear at other times. Definitely talented though, no question.

I have to say I really enjoyed the KU-OU game last night, and not just for the obvious reason. I especially enjoyed it when it started raining 3's late in the game. Some truly clutch, downtown, in your face shooting from both teams. Griffin vs. Aldrich was a matchup I was really looking forward to seeing, however, and hopefully it'll happen in the Big 12 Tournament.

A couple of other notes/observations:

• His stretch of fantastic play late in the first half is an example of just how good Tyshawn Taylor can be someday. He's the next Mario Chalmers.
• No matter who you're rooting for, Willie Warren is just fun to watch. Mad athletic ability on that kid. He could become a truly dominant factor in the conference in a year or two.
• I'm quite impressed with Capel as both a coach and a recruiter. Griffin was an easy grab, with big brother already on the team, but he's definitely got the chops to bring in other talent and use them properly. I look for Oklahoma to remain a force in the conference as long as Capel is there.

No love for Providence upsetting Pitt tonight? That win may go a long way into getting eight teams from the Big East in the tournament (UConn, Pitt, Marquette, Louisville, Nova', Syracuse, West Virginia, and Providence).

With the win against Florida tonight, LSU has already clinched a SEC regular season title. I don't think we are talented to make any real big noise in the NCAA tourney, and next year will be a very big rebuilding year. But I don't think I have seen a better college basketball coaching job ever than what Trent Johnson has done at LSU this year. And if he wins SEC coach of the year, which he probably will, he would have won coach of the year honors in three separate conferences. Will be interesting to see how good of a team he can build at LSU with the talent he will have access to in recruiting.

Merely a sidenote, but Sidney's commitment ceremony has to be one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen. Awful lot of work to do all that for a kid that hasn't even passed his standardized test yet.......

Renardo Sidney goes to great lengths to reveal choice of USC - Los Angeles Times

Something's not right with Blake Griffin. They're reporting on KC sports radio that there's a pretty good chance he won't play this weekend. A mild injury shouldn't keep a player out for this length of time. Anyone know if he has a history of concussions that might be increasing the level of concern with his injury?

That game was horrible. Did you see how many dumb turnovers pitt had? They were just fumbeling the ball for shits and giggles, and on top of that they were missing 8 foot jumpers, and they still could have won the game at the end.

Very frustrating and dont get me started on the way the refs called that bad boy :) I dont see Pitt playing that bad again as that was their game this year where everything went wrong. Glad that got that out of their system now.

I've said this to a few of my friends...Pitt plays a very physical game and if they run into the wrong kind of refs (ones that call everything) in the tourney they are going to be in trouble.

I wouldnt be too concerned. Some kids take longer with that stuff than others. If you are borderline on the trainers test 2-3 days in a row or show mild improvement its usually a "no go".

Your dead on about past concussions though. If he has a history this year, they will play it safe even more.

Unfortunately for Pitt I think your dead on here. I think being at Providence helped a few of those calls though, and im hoping those are the ones that wont be called in the tourney at a neutral site.

My guess is that he had a minor one earlier in the year in practice that we didn't know about and that the latest concussion has caused them to be cautious. His parents seem to be on-board with holding him out, so I'm guessing that the conservative route of treatment is warranted for one reason or another.

Concussion aren't (or shouldn't be considered) minor injuries.

Perhaps that's my opinion alone, but yeah.

You're absolutely correct. It's just that usually, players are able to play again much quicker in basketball than football for obvious reasons.

The confusion lies in the injury that was shown on TV. It wasn't that tough of a shot unless there was another shot earlier in the game or earlier this season that already created some issues that were only compounded by the shot in the Texas game. It just feels like there's something we don't know, but obviously it's not required that we know it.

That happens to Pitt every year it seems like.

I don't know about a history, but apparently his dad said it looked like three blows to the head in the Texas game that might have combined for the concussion. I assume you watched the KU game, but he didn't pass the concussion mental test before that one. But, I mean, with a concussion, they're not going to let you test it out in a contact situation like they might even do for a knee injury.

More recently it's been lack of offense in the tourney rather than foul trouble. 2 years ago it seemed like Gray and Kendall missed every bunny possible against UCLA and last year shots weren't falling against Michigan State. I think that foul trouble this year in the tournament would be a big problem, but I'm more worried that they match up against a team with great guards who can a) draw fouls off the drive and b) score against a Pitt D that has lapses.

How bout that screen on Nolan Smith? Holy cow. Someone has to be back there to call that. Unfortunately, Duke beats Maryland.

Another game, another win for Mizzou. They plastered a KSU team that had won 8 of 9 games coming into last night. They're making it look easy right now.

The 2nd round of the Border War occurs on Sunday. Winner of the game takes the lead in the conference and has the inside track on the #1 seed for the Big 12 tournament. For the record, Mizzou won in Lawrence in 1969, 1979, 1989, and 1999. I'd hate to see a trend like that end in 2009.

I think John Pelphrey is in some serious trouble at Arkansas. He may not get another year. There are real signs he has lost control of his team and may be in over his head. This is worrying. I really like him, but there are LOT of bad signs at this point (well beyond the 1-12 in the SEC problem).

I think he's going to be a good coach, but he was clearly not ready for the step up.

That's what happens when your first 6 choices say no.

Care to elaborate? I honestly hadn't heard that there were behind-the-scenes problems.

Marquette's Dominic James out for year with broken foot - ESPN

Damn shame about Dominic James. That kid is fun to watch.

Mostly rumors, really, but they are coming from reliable sources. Basically, Pelphrey has been inconsistent in his discipline, allowing some players to show up late to practice, indefinitely suspending others, etc. Trouble getting kids to go to class in several cases. A lot of freshman problems because the team is mostly freshmen, but the handling of the problems has led to some other things. There are also people that have seen a player and assistant have to be restrained from each other. Many reports of one particular assistant being a big problem/distraction and affecting recruiting, but Pelphrey is loyal to him to a fault.

Then of course you have the dismal performance on the court since conference season started and repeated recruiting failures, not addressing needs for the future. It is pretty bleak at this point.

Big East has had some tough injuries to good players this season. Hopefully, it won't keep their teams from doing well in the tourney.

Clutch win for Washington tonight against ASU - the Huskies are back to a 1.5 game lead in the Pac-10. One more conference win clinches a share of the conference title.

This season has been a very pleasant surprise after the disappointments of the last 2 years for the program. Looks like Romar may have the program on track to be a yearly Tournament team again.

Interesting old footage. This is from an "ABC Game of the Week" in 1961. Jack Buck is the young announcer doing the game. Needless to say, the situation in the MU/KU game got a bit out of hand........

YouTube - 1961 MU-KU basketball brawl

I love that they get the band to start playing the national anthem to try to calm everyone. Looks like it worked about as well as expected too.


Also, 1961 must have just been the year for fighting in college basketball. UNC and Duke had it out after Art Heyman fouled Larry Brown(yes, that Larry Brown) hard underneath the basket. There's a couple solid punches thrown at midcourt at the 30 second mark. No announcer unfortunately.

YouTube - UNC-dook basketball fight 1961

Washington clinches at least a tie for the Pac-10 crown with their win over Arizona today. A win against WSU or one more loss from both Cal and UCLA will clinch the UW's first outright Pac-10 title since 1953 (they tied for 1st in the conference in 1984 & 1985).

LSU wins at Kentucky 73-70 to win the SEC title. Overcomes 10-point deficit in the 2nd half. LSU is now 25-4, 13-1 in the SEC. First win at Kentucky in 20 years for LSU.

LSU could be a dangerous team in the tournament, not to win, but to make a little run. They lack size inside and have no real bench, but they have some talented starters, play tough defense, and have a couple of real scorers. Given the right draw they could make a run, get past the first weekend, and upset somebody. They are a very tough team.

LSU wins the SEC outright with a 73-70 win at Kentucky, a game-winning three-pointer with nine seconds left.

Who do you trust? The refs? Or your lying eyes?

dear god thats awful

There were a couple other egregious walks in televised games today. Officials nationwide seem to be leaning towards "letting them play" more than ever this year, might be making the refs lazy though.

Darren Collison might be the worst offender at this in the nation, but the "palming" of the ball is getting out of hand

The one at the end of the Duke game was particularly bad and played a big part in the outcome of the game.

Yes, this one was horrible. If you want to blow the whistle for a foul, blow it. But letting the guy walk through defenders across the court? Ridiculous.

"Interesting" call in the UCLA-Cal game right before half time as well today. I'm sure under the letter of the law it might have been intentional, but if they are going to start calling those, then there will be 7-8 a game. Cal coach was pretty pissed and the announcers seemed pretty unanimous that it was a horrible call.

One thing I've always wondered, why are intentional fouls at the end of the game not called intentional fouls? Can there be more intentional than grabbing a player around the waist when he receives an inbound pass? Does the intentional foul in the rulebook relate to a scoring opportunity?

I think it is too much of a judgment call. If a guy slaps someone on the arm, that happens all time time during the course of a game. But when a guy bear hugs a guy at the end of the game, that should be called intentional, and I have no clue why it isn't.

I think when it is called plays a big part of it. The Cal player didn't even attempt to go for the ball, he just sort of tapped Drago as he drove to the basket. Didn't even look up at him, just was looking down and grabbed his jersey.

Bug's description is dead on. The Cal player was pretty much blatantly intentionally fouling Drago. I don't think it was a bad call (by the letter, the call was correct), so much as a bad rule, and bad enforcement.

It's a bad rule because the use of the term "intentional" sets up two things. One, refs judging intent (no refs should have to do that, and particularly not the piss poor refs of the Pac 10). Two, the leeway given refs seem to allow them to differentiate between intentionals like the one committed on Dragovic, and the ones at the end of games, i.e. "strategic intentional fouls". The problem with the rule, of course, is that doesn't define either type as different from one another. As an example, the announcers pointed to just one of these "strategic" late game fouls in the same game and noted that the Cal defender on that play (player fouled Shipp from behind and had no play on the ball whatsoever) was called for a normal foul and that was it. There was about a minute left in the game. And yet that late game foul had less to do with making a play on the ball than the one against Drago. Yet, the first half one was called intentional, and the second was a normal foul.

As the announcers said, that rule should just be removed. There is no real value to having it in the game. Keep flagrants and what not, the overtly physical fouls, but ditch this one, it's just a rule that can cause problems.

BTW, that early intentional pretty much allowed UCLA a seveon-point possession. While it was certainly a key play, I disagree with announcers saying it was "given" to UCLA. Drago still had to make a great physical play to still get the ball in the hoop, and Roll still had to make the three. Only the free throws came "easy", and those are missable as well, of course.

Basically, if Montgomery is pissed about the play, well, how about he teach his players to play some D, and not allow Drago a wide open lane on the baseline, and Roll to be left alone behind the arc?

5 hours until the Border War. Should be a lot of fun.

There's actually a great slate of ranked vs. ranked games this afternoon. Pull up the chips and beer for 6 hours........

12:00 EST #10 Marquette @ #6 Louisville
2:00 EST #8 Mizzou @ #15 Kansas
4:00 EST #9 Michigan State @ #20 Illinois

Ok, I am pissed.

The KU-Mizzou game is nowhere to be found here, not even on ppv (not that I'd do that). CBS has some stupid ass SEC game at 2 and I'm not going anywhere because we've got sleet falling everywhere in a city that can't drive in rain, much less anything colder.

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Ah man.. it's on CBS here!

It is listed here: Watch Online tv sports news and entertainment for free at channelsurfing

But, sometimes they show ESPN360 games that are blacked out if your cable company doesn't allow for it.

SI - We have the same issues here occasionally as our CBS station is also the Raycom station and pre-empts games all season. Next week, I'll miss Pitt-UConn 2.

I saw another comment on palming and Sam Young for Pittsburgh was called for palming on 2 straight possessions yesterday.

Rick Pitino's suit is awesome. :)

Interesting- ever used that site before? I might have to try it out. It's the best shot I've seen so far.

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channelsurfing is great. Lots of people here have used it. Bookmark it.

I don't use it as much since I moved back to Morgantown, but when I lived in North Carolina, I used it all of the time to watch WVU.

Like I said, the only problem I have ever had is when they put up a link to an ESPN 360 game. ESPN 360 only works with certain cable/ISP companies and I have never had much luck with it.

Good luck, should be a great game. We are playing our best ball of the year, with consecutive wins over UCLA, Arizona, and ASU. I still have to give the nod to the Dawgs, though.

Looks like I may luck out with channelsurfing.

Sure as hell beats that SEC suckfest I'd get otherwise

Thank you much to all :D

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woohoo, using channelsurfing.net to watch mizzou/kansas instead of getting stuck with two unranked SEC teams that I couldn't care less about.

While it's just a PAC-10 title, I'd like for UCLA to at least clinch a tie of the title still

what a start for Kansas. It seems they'd be winning no matter what but Missouri is looking ridiculously bad on offense.

Yep.. Kansas looks great, but we are shooting like shit right now.

Time to stop the little stupid stuff. No more out of bounds, no more long falling 3's with 30 seconds left on the shot clock. Keep this lead large- don't do the stupid stuff like in the first game.

Still, we're playing great right now, taking advantage of Mizzou not being able to hit the ocean

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