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Swaggs (or anyone else), any ideas on why Hoops was acting like an X-COM on day 2, since it looks as though he was converted on night 1? Is there a lag in the conversion process?
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I'm honestly not sure.
It could've been an act or it could have been a lag period. I suppose if there is a lag period, you can scratch the list of five humans. But, as long as we get Neon Chaos and Raiders Army next, we will be in as good of position as we could hope for. |
I know many of you humans think I am an alien and my actions today would easily steer you down that path. It was not until late today that I figured out my scanner was broken. I was under the assumption that my scanner was seeking the converted member and that is why I kept saying hoopsguy was clean. Clearly I was wrong. My scanner was looking for the converter, not the convertee. At the start of the day, I was going to go after Raiders and then my scanner malfunction happened and all heck broke loose.
Neon and Raiders both voted for CW and Fouts and they are the top 2 guys on my list. |
Swaggs, well played. I am forever in your debt. I'm not sure why you didn't kill the converter, but I guess you knew for sure on Hoops.
Qwik, what can I say? I figured you for our side, but you might have been converted. Mr. Wednesday, you need to get one right. Hopefully tomorrow. My list still stands. Neon is the converter and he needs to die or they will convert someone tomorrow night. This is crunch time. One of these 3 were converted - King, Qwik, Mr. Wednesday. I figured King because he vehemently backed hoops and raiders. |
I need to get one right assuming I survive the night. Considering my track record so far, I think my chances are pretty good. :o :eek:
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Dola, I did vote for Neon_Chaos over CW. :p
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I had planned to make sure that Neon Chaos died, either, hopefully, by the vote or by over-riding the computer, if necessary. I may have made a mistake by picking hoopsguy at the last minute, but the comments leading up to the 8:00 deadline really started to rattle my confidence in my sources. In the end, I decided to go with what I knew for sure. Now I feel certain that there are a few people I can trust. |
Fouts, you don't have any insight on who else was converted do you?
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No. Once I outed myself, I was cut off from their communications. I wish I knew who the last guy was, but I don't. I do know for 100% positive that Neon is the converter. He has almost been killed like 3 times, but some of the humans keep saving him. I really don't understand it.
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kingfc22, Mr. Wednesday, I know it may not seem much. But I do think you're both human. I don't know about Qwikshot, despite him saving me... he's been acting wierd lately. RA, I'm almost positive might be an alien.
Swaggs, think what you want of me. I'm sure Fouts is loving this right now. I know I'm not dying tonight because I'm going to be reserved for the killing tommorow. Reading back a bit. I think Blade6119 let something slip when he said that hoopsguy almost fingered out two of "Them" on day 1. If I remember correctly, there were 4 "Blade's Friends" that hoopsguy was pointing out, Blade, Qwikshot, Mr.Wednesday, and you Fouts. And after Mr Wednesday voted not to hang me, he's clean in my books. If I interpret this correctly, I'm thinking that you're not the alien slave you say you are, but a full-blooded alien. But then again, we're not going to find that out now are we? |
Swaggs, you rock. I kind of wish people had legitimized my Neon claims, but this is just as good.
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Alrighty then. I guess I look really bad here. Oh well. Nothing I can do about it. In past games, I've said actions speak louder than words, and I guess ironically, those words come back to haunt me.
My actions may have seemed confusing, but that's because I am: 1. Confused 2. Paranoid I don't have anything in my defense, so what happens, happens. I'm not throwing in the towel yet. :) I am still human after all. |
The night passes..
Sleep comes hard for you.. but eventually you DO fall asleep.. and in the Morning, there's only 10 of you left. KingFC22 was ambushed during the night, and lies half in and half out of his bed, with a smoking plasma hole in between his ears. The computer has rebooted, and updates its ectoplasmic count as you all come out. THREE |
The Departed List.
Schmidty (Day 1: Group) Blade6119 (Day 2: Group) Peregrine (Night 2: Alien Front) Coffee Warlord (Day 3: Group) hoopsguy (Day 4: Blasted by Computer Override (Swaggs) KingFC22 (Night 4: Alien Front) It is Day 5. Votes are due by 8 PM. Night 4 information now is in play. |
This seems like a nicely run game. Nice work Fozzie.
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Excellent works, Swaggs... :)
So we're going after Neon today, right? |
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So, we're at 6-3 now.
Today is still vital to our chances. |
I know I'm gone today, you guys have made up your minds. Sticking with my vote yesterday.
Vote Fouts |
I'm leaning against Fouts now...I've been going down the wrong path. Checking hoops room didn't reveal any new details, so I'm guessing he wasn't the boss.
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I see no reason to change my vote from yesterday.
Vote Neon Chaos |
The most obvious thing to assume, right now, would be that the aliens united behind Fouts to protect Neon_Chaos; if you presume that Neon_Chaos is the Chryssalid, the votes would work out exactly right with Qwikshot being the conversion in Night 3. The only question, then, would be why make our job easier by blowing up kingfc22? As confused as he was, he would have been a suspect today. That's two alien killings that don't make a whole lot of sense to me.
The worst case scenario for us is that they managed to get us voting for two humans, in which case they would have been able to split their vote without it becoming obvious. |
I'm fully prepared for some sort of mind job here.
Sorting back through things, here's what we have: Confirmed Roles Swaggs--computer hacker digamma--PSI-Amp operator Qwikshot--Jack of All Trades (some speculation about conversion) Unconfirmed Roles Fouts--Spy. Has credibility because of his battle against hoopsguy. Neon--alien converter. No real defense. Voted against Fouts and with hoopsguy. Info known about these players: RaidersArmy--began his life as a human. After a trip to the doctor as a youth, he emerged not quite human. He hates his own skin. JeeberD--Not much known about him. Votes with digamma and Swaggs. Thought to be a good guy. Vince--Thought to be a good guy. Mr. Wednesday--Here's where it gets interesting. Wednesday voted with hoopsguy yesterday. Unfair as it may be, Wednesday may also be implicated by the Blade/hoopsguy back and forth yesterday. Alien? At the end of the day yesterday, I was pretty convinced kingfc was a bad guy. I was wrong. We know there are three of them out there. Neon seems the most obvious target. We also know something isn't right with RaidersArmy. My third guess, at this point, would seem to be Wednesday. |
The score right now is 7 - 3. If we make a mistake and they convert another, there will be absolutely no room for error. I think, though, that we'll have a pretty good idea of who's who at that point.
Vote Neon_Chaos |
digamma, I voted with hoopsguy because I couldn't square his actions on Day 2 with being alien. I was wrong, now I don't have any idea why he acted as he did in fingering Blade.
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Might not the aliens have killed king just to make it look like those voting for Fouts aren't aliens? Basically they killed someone that they knew was human yet we weren't sure about to try and make themselves look innocent...
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Breaking down what I know on the factions of yesterday's vote:
Fouts: Mr. Wedensday (human) kingfc22 (human) hoopsguy (convert) Neon_Chaos (accused by Fouts) Raiders Army (accused by Digamma) Qwikshot (human into Night 3, jack-of-all-trades, ? since) Neon_Chaos: JeeberD Swaggs (human, computer operator) Digamma Fouts Vince |
Kingfc22 was a human agent and had a protective role. He very likely died protecting one of us.
Plasma shot as the cause of death makes me a little nervous. Vince, can the aliens use weapons? |
I'm pretty sure (from reading GB's dynasty) that the aliens use plasma rays. In fact, that's how we X-Com folks wound up with the technology...we stole it from them.
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kingfc22 dying makes no sense. If Neon and I are aliens, why would we try to take out someone who voted with us? I am still not convinced of Fouts and digamma's innocence. I'm not sure about Neon, but right now I know what I am, and it seems as if Swaggs is on the level since he killed an alien and there supposedly wasn't a conversion last night. I'll vote with whomever Swaggs votes for.
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I believe kingfc22 was protecting one of us from the aliens last night. He either died instead of one of us or was identified by the aliens as someone that could help us, so he was killed. |
Ah, that makes sense.
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I don't have all the answers. You said that you picked up Coffee Warlord's ecto level on your scanner a few days. What else do you know? |
And, will you finally explain your doctor's visit?
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That's about it. I know Fouts and digamma were talking in a strange language. Other than that, I chose to sneak into Jeeb's room last night, and he was snoring.
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Again, to my knowledge, I haven't had any nighttime conversations with Fouts.
I want to believe you are good, RA, because I know you've vowed revenge on those who made you what you are. |
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I was wondering why my posterior was sore this morning... :( |
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In a nutshell, my father was a separatist. He was an alien supporter and took me to a doctor and my blood was tainted. Now, if I'm targeted and die, I can kill somebody (human or alien) that night due to my tainted blood (sort of an eye for an eye thing). The problem is that whomever I kill, I won't be sure if they're an alien or not. I'm pretty sure Fouts is an alien and may be a double spy. I'm somewhat inclined to believe at least part of his story that he was a slave to the aliens (the part I'm not inclined to believe is that I'm an alien). |
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Jeebs has it correct Swaggs -- plasma weaponry is what the aliens brought to earth, and we 'stole' it from them.
As for my vote, I need no indication today...same vote I've had for three days now. I vote Neon_Chaos. |
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They're down 7-3. Take out one of the supporters of Neon and then we're only up 6-3. They have us vote out Neon, 5-3. They convert another tonight and it's 4-4...game over. I'm thinking Neon's the patsy in this and the easiest target of opportunity. The only problem that I have is who do I point my gun at? Fouts? The stronger I go against him, the less sure I am that he's a bad guy. Swaggs is safe in my mind. He's the only one? |
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What more evidence do you possibly need against Neon Chaos.
He was one of the three identified as the possible converter by Qwikshot. The other two died (Peregrine and Blade) and he was the third. There has been a conversion since. Coffee Warlord tried to convince us to kill him before we lynched him. Afterwards, he tried to shoot him. Fouts named him. He was correct in naming hoopsguy as the converted. While I'm at it... I Vote Neon Chaos. |
Looks like we are finally gonna do it. I was sure we were done for. Goodbye alien converter!
I vote Neon_Chaos |
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I thought King might have been the converted, but now I can see I was wrong. Why would they kill King? To show me as being able to get it wrong? Qwik, you would have done better to vote for Neon right away. Now you are suspected of being converted. It actually makes sense that they would convert you. It would be too risky to leave you with that ability. You could have become the bodyguard, if I read the role correctly. |
Vote Neon_Chaos
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Good one. Cut him loose, cut him loose. :) |
Vote Neon_Chaos
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I can understand thinking kingfc22 was converted... he was even more confused than I was and am, judging by his voting and comment pattern yesterday.
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Any idea whether this may cause you to show up as ectoplasmic on the sensors. I'm hopeful we might only be dealing with two aliens besides your mixed blood. |
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I definitely thought kingfc22 had gone bad. And, of course, that's why I viewed him last night. Like Peregrine, though, he was X-Com through and through. |
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He's telling the truth. He's alien and when he dies, he'll take one of us with him. Some sort of acid blood. I'd rather not be in the room when he goes. |
Yeah, I know he's telling the truth. I had the same result in my scan. I just am wondering how he counts in the numbers--because he began his life as a human.
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Raiders this (along with posts #517 and 473) are why I have been voting for Neon_Chaos for three days now.
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I think he'll probably count as one of the ectoplasmics. The bigger question, in my opinion -- where do his loyalties lie? What is his victory condition? Can we win with him still alive? I think we have to go Neon today, RA tomorrow. If we can afford to keep him alive, sweet -- but he's prime suspect #2 on my list right now. |
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I agree. There's something very fishy about RA... |
Here's how I have it right now;
Known bad guys - Neon, RA Known good guys - Fouts, Swaggs Suspected bad guys - Qwik Suspected good guys - Digamma, Vince, Jeeber I don't know - Mr. Wednesday |
Fouts, can you confirm or deny that there is a lag period between the conversion and becoming a full fledged ecto? What happened with hoopsguy? Was he immediately converted?
The lag time things worries me badly. |
I think he was just acting. I have no knowledge of this, but I've got a pretty strong feeling that's just what he was doing.
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Why would I become the bodyguard...I can't protect myself...trying to figure out why I'm still alive is like asking why Peregrine and King were whacked...no rhyme or reason. |
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Yeah they are converted right away, and that was a great show by hoops. He had to keep up the looks of still being all over blade, but once we all got on that bandwagon it was too late for them to save him. Hoops led the charge for blade's death by trying to keep his image up. |
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I was just saying as the jack of all trades, the aliens couldn't risk that you could become the bodyguard. It is a great move, if that is how it works. |
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Surely there is a better position to help the troops than guard? I'm still trying to find something bigger to help in figuring out who's who...I concur that Neon is probably a baddie, but I did that before. I got Blade, but I was wrong about him being the chrysallid. |
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Strange how you are making sense now that you are an alien. Back when you were human I couldn't figure out why you made all the wrong moves. Have you joined the hive? And I would think you would have picked a role by now. This confirms for me that you are the converted. |
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I can only pick the role of someone dead...and only if the role is useful. As of now, Jack of Trades is still more useful than anything I've come across. Have I joined the hive? No. Glad I am making sense now, but I made sense before. I got Blade that was a right move. I mucked up on CW. But I believe the aliens would not have gone for such a high profile person, they would've gone for someone quieter. Meanwhile, I knew when I came out with my ability (thanks to Sir Fozzie, which was only fair), that I would become a target for death, conversion or discredited because I was still around. |
I can only assume a role of a dead person...should I just become a grunt?!?
/That's/ foolish talk. |
Qwik, you can prove your innocence tomorrow by telling us what kingfc22's role was.
There are multiple people that know what it was. |
Also, whose room did you check last night and what did you find?
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CW was the bodyguard, that is a guarantee. Why wouldn't you want to be the bodyguard? That is why they converted you. |
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Because I was looking for a better role. |
Screw this, if I'm in the axis of evil, I might as well go:
Unvote Neon_Chaos Vote Fouts As per Vince, I'm a goner tomorrow, so I'm voting for Fouts. My vote won't make a difference anyhow. I see this: Fouts digamma Vince JeeberD All against me. So fuck it. What do I have to lose? |
For the record, RA, I've never said I'm against you. I've said all along that I believe you want to get back at the ones who made you who you are. If you know something, you should tell us.
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Did Michael do anything to you, you should tell...did he moonwalk? Did he have his sequined glove...telling with make you feel better. :p |
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Neon Chaos tonight. Me tonight or tomorrow. Don't worry, dig, I won't take you out when I die and that's a promise :) |
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BTW, that's a Triumph reference :)
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Qwik, did you find anything last night in anyone's room?
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I've got some misgivings about voting for Neon right now, but unfortunately I don't have time to do anything about it. I'll be away until after the vote is tallied.
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Ok.. Hoopguy's room reeks and oozes with slime that's everywhere. you don't want to know where it came from. This room looks to be a refuge for the aliens. There's a board with pictures of all the X-com soldiers!!! You see Coffee Warlord's photo slashed out, Peregrine with a malicious "X" over his face, several others you recognize like Mr. Wednesday but the majority of it has been destroyed, on purpose? The room seems to have not been used recently. Your verdict: Alien.. some kind of minion. you just do not know what exactly. Take it as you were. |
That reference to Mr. W could be huge -- thoughts, guys?
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Alrighty....
Unvote Fouts Vote Mr. W |
I have no idea why they would be referencing me, unless it's a desperate attempt to deflect attention away from someone else.
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I'm sticking with Neon Chaos for today.
Raiders Army, perhaps the medic can remedy your problem. |
Hope I'm still alive when I get back. I'm one of the good guys, even if I haven't been much help when it's come to the voting.
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I'm only stating what I saw, I'm neither accusing nor ignoring, I'm just reporting what I saw. |
What's one more change?
Unvote Mr. W Vote Neon_Chaos *sigh* Heheh...Fozzie's gonna have trouble counting my vote. :) |
Unvote Neon_Chaos
Vote Neon_Chaos |
Alrighty fellas, I'm off to play CoH and such...I'll see you after the vote.
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Unvote Richard Nixon
Vote Milton Berle Wait...they're both dead...let's move along. |
Wait, this is X-Com...when's Coffee Warlord II report for duty? :)
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Speaking of which, where has GB been? |
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I was wondering that myself when this game started. Haven't seen him in ages. |
Hoopsguy II is ready as an alternate - I want to frag some aliens!
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Hey guys, have to go out and pick up my car from the shop, I'll be back shortly after 8 to tabulate and tell what's going to happen..
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