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And now McLaren's hurt. :(
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Dang it, where's the high-stick call.
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Hang on Flames!!
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Oh boy... :(
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dola, 3 wings fan posts in a row. that's not a good sign.
Not too happy knowing the Wings took attitude out of their vocabulary. Yzerman's injury probably sealed the coffin. |
This sucks. I hate being worried about a series in which you have home-ice advantage, and are up 3-1.
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What??? They're still playing hockey?
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The Flames? Yeah. I was as shocked as anyone. |
11 years ago today.....May 1, 1993 - Nikolai Borschevsky scores at 2:35 of overtime at Joe Louis Arena to oust the Red Wings 4-3 in the seventh and deciding game of the division semi-finals series.
It still seems like yesterday Just thought HB would enjoy that...hehe |
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Wow...11 years ago...that IS depressing:(
Not as depressing as it is for H_B...but still depressing :) Anyone hear how Stevie Y is doing? |
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Could be worse, you could be rubbing in that 1967 Stanley Cup, oh wait, none of the Leafs fans on this board were alive when they won that one. :D Seriously though, why do you guys get such satisfaction about Division Semi's and shit like that, why not win a Cup before talking all that smack. |
Crap. Now I'm worried. Still up 3-2 but now its back to Colorado. Game 7 here we come.
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WOHOO.
and my playoff beard gets a to stay a little longer... I don't know if my heart can take another close game like that. |
dola - yesterday was me wife and my 5th wedding anniversary. we went with some friends and our kids to the New England Aquarium, had an amazingly GREAT day. came home and my wife and we watched the recorded game after exchanging gifts (my wife gave me an extremely cool geneology report of our families she's been secrelty working on for months)...Sakic's OT winner was scored at 11:59 pm Tivo time...the last minute of one of the best days of my life.
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Didn't you hear, they are planning a parade through downtown Toronto if the Leafs make it to the Conference Finals. |
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Gratz on 5 yars DD...I think any best day of my life would include hockey too :) |
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That's sounds pretty awesome. Congratulations. |
Congrats on 5 years.
That's good stuff. It will be 5 for my wife and I on 9/9/2004, if we can make it another 4 months and a week. ;) Go Flames! Let's finish it in Calgary now! |
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It used to be worse,we used to have a parade whenever we won a game in the early 80's....I think between 80-83 we had 10.....total :D |
Nice steal from Recchi. Good goal.
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Memo to Leafs....The game started 12 minutes ago....how about a shot on net?
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Why is Mccabe playing with the knob of his stick on the ice instead of the blade? :D
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11 years ago? Wow. I was in college. That's terrifying.
Poor Stevie. Sounds like he's done for the year for sure. Hate to think that's how he goes out. Makes me sick actually... Well, I'm finally state-side. Watching the Philly-Toronto game at the moment. BKP (Big Keith Primeau) had an excellent goal. He's a big, whiny bitch, but that was still a nice goal. Good to see the Leafs get one right back. I want a good game. |
How long are you back in the States for?
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Anyone know which channel the arena football game is on?
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Can we call mercy rule?
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Dola...
Better game five than game seven (like last year), but geez....this is fucking embarrassing. |
Time to pull Eddie and sit Newy and rest them for game 6
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What the f^&* happened to the Leafs? The only ideas I have are that (a) they NEVER play afternoon games and have been thrown off their routine, or (b) they got seriously complacent after winning the last two games pretty easily. Either way, no matter how well Philly is playing, something's happened. The Leafs are NOT this bad.
...another question: how many toronto columnists will call for Quinn's head tomorrow morning? Let's set the over/under at 3. |
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Three weeks at least. Maybe a month. |
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What can you say, Philly is a great team. There are some teams you can get away with not bieng at your best, but not the Flyers and definetely not in Philadelphia. |
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dola: What's the deal with the 4:00 start? Kind of messed up my sports viewnig schedule. It went like this:
Hey it's the bottom of the 9th, Phils down by 2. (click) 1-0 already, what the? (click) Tie score, what happened? (click) 2-0, now what? ... Oh well, at least both games turned out how I was hoping. Not much to take from the game 5 though as neither of those teams will show up like that in game 6. |
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I never liked afternoon hockey games....and I blame the start time for the loss.....Leafs never win in the afternoon....The only time I remember winning a afternoon playoff game was against the Isles 2 years ago.....LEafs dont play afternoon games...... :mad: |
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Unfortunatly.....the afternoon start works against both teams,so it was hardly an excuse for that lay down the Leafs did. |
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Still, I can see that being an edge of maybe one goal. Doesn't really explain the other four. |
OK, in honor of the anniversary of Nik Borchesvky's OT goal, in continuation of some of the old-school Leafs talk from this thread, and in an effort to wash away the aftertaste of Sunday's debacle...
I now present the first installment of Hardcore Leafs Trivia. That's right. None of this pansy "Who scored in overtime..." nonsense. The following questions range from relatively easy to "are you freaking kidding me". With a few exceptions, I believe these will be next-to-impossible to look up, but I still think that the hardcore Leaf fan will have a shot at most of them. And yes, I actually know these off the top of my head. Kind of sad, isn't it? Today's theme: the Leafs back-to-back playoff runs of 1993 and 1994. TOR/DET, 1993 Each game in Detroit, HNIC would start it's broadcast with a shot of which Leaf standing silently by himself in the hallway prior to the game (5 points)? TOR/DET, 1993, game four After losing games one and two to the Wings in blowouts, the Leafs come home needing to win both games to stay in the series. The turning point of game four, and perhaps the entire series, was a thundering open-ice hit. Who threw the hit (1 point), and which Wing was on the receiving end (2 points)? TOR/STL, 1993, game one Everyone remembers Curtis Joseph's brilliant goaltending in the double-overtime Game One classic. But which future NHL starter had to come in to play goal during overtime when Joseph had to leave the game (2 points)? Which Leaf knocked CuJo out of the game and how (5 points)? TOR/LA, 1993, game one We all remember the classic Clark/McSorely fight after Marty decked Gilmour. But there was a second fight going on at the same time, which can only be seen in the background of the HNIC broadcast. Which two players were involved (3 points)? TOR/LA, 1993, game five The Leafs took the lead in the series on Glenn Anderson's overtime goal. Which King's half-hearted defensive effort allowed Anderson to be wide open to swat home the winning goal (3 points)? TOR/LA, 1993, game six This game will live in infamy for Kerry Fraser's missed call on Wayne Gretzky's high stick on Doug Gilmour in overtime. It wouldn't be overstating it to describe this game as the Leaf fans' Bill Bucker game. Still the only game in the history of sports to include all of the Sports Guy's 13 levels of losing. Sigh. Anyway, the high-stick wasn't the only reason the Leafs lost. Some fans forget that Kings OT goal actually came on the powerplay. Which Leaf was in the box for boarding at the time of the goal (2 points)? Who did he hit (5 points)? And what was the ad on the boards that he hit him into (10 points)? TOR/LA, 1993, game seven HNIC opened it's broadcast of what Wayne Gretkzy would later call his "greatest game ever" and Leaf fans would later call "the game that should never have happened, Fraser, you bastard" with a montage set to the theme song of what classic sports movie? (10 points) TOR/CHI, 1994, game two With a 1-0 victory, the Leafs take a 2-0 series lead on Todd Gill's OT goal. Gill beats Hawks' goalie Eddie Belfour through the five-hole with a slapshot from the point, despite no traffic around the net, no deflections, and no screen. After the goal, Belfour goes ballistic. Why (5 points)? TOR/SJ, 1994 What was unusual about the format of the TOR/SJ and later the TOR/VAN series (1 point)? TOR/SJ, 1994, game six With the Leafs down 3-games-to-2 and facing elimination, HNIC opened it's broadcast of game six with a video montage set to what appropriate musical selection (10 points)? Which Shark almost eliminated the Leafs, hitting the crossbar in overtime (5 points)? What song played at MLG when the Leafs scored to win the game (10 points)? TOR/SJ, 1994, game seven The Leafs beat the Sharks 4-2 to win the series. What was unusual about the final seconds of this game (5 points)? |
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Are you freaking kidding me??? I remember those two playoff runs like they were yesterday, but apparently I've forgotten enough to be able to answer exactly none of those questions. The fact that you know all the answers off the top of your head, frankly, scares me. :) |
Actually the only one I *think* I can answer is the 1-point one about the formats of the '94 series against SJ and Van, and that's only because I have a vague recollection about *some* NHL playoff series doing this...no idea whether these two were among them.
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That year, the NHL had a rule where any series prior to the finals between a western team and an eastern team would be 2-3-2, to cut down on travel. This basically affected only Toronto and Detroit, since they were the only two "east" teams still stuck in the Western conference. |
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In the final 3-4 minutes of the game, Gretzky completed his hattrick and put the Kings up 5-3 (I think) to seal the game and the series. Which Leaf's skate did he bank the puck off of to get the puck past Potvin? |
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(Who redeemed himself, a somewhat, by scoring to make it 5-4 with a minute left.) |
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Somehow, I knew you'd know that. :) |
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#1- I was only 13....I think Felix Potvin...or Pat Burns....but Burnsy wasnt a player... #2- Wendel Clark...and im gonna say he hit.....Ray Sheppard #3- Easy....Guy Hebert #4- I have no idea.....Dave Ellett and Charlie Huddy? #5 Glenn Anderson....got the penalty with like 20 secs left in the third....it was a bs call......I have no idea who he hit...ill guess Darryl Sydor....and I cheated to get the ad....It was upper Deck.....I think....or Target....But I think it happend where the Upper Deck ad was.... #6- Cant remember...again...I was 13.....Rocky #7- Damn...could be anything......Did he think the Net was off?..... #8- 2-3-2.....I still dont like that format #9- no idea which song.....um....Living on a prayer?......Igor Larinov hit the post...and passed when he had a open net.....And I have no idea what the music played when we won.....we are the champions? #10- Clock problems? |
No no no. You are all wrong. The correct answer is who gives a F***. :D :p
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Clark hit.....Paul Ysebart?
Foligno took Josephs head off with his skate...and Clark did it again in game 7 Andreychuck in the fight...with Pat Conacher Garpenlov hit the post then..... I dont know the others...and I call myself a Leaf fan...... :confused: |
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Hey Klayman, here's some recent Flames Playoff trivia: Who had an eagle on the 15th hole in 1997... |
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ML....Your knowledge of useless trivia continues to amaze:)
Your wife must look at you like a deer (or dear :) ) caught in the headlights....or something similar to how Bryan Mccabe looked like last night. |
Some media outlets are reporting that the Canucks are not going to renew Brian Burkes' contratc for next season.
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And in other breaking news....the sun will rise in the east tomorrow.
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And people will call for the head of Pat Quinn and that Sundin should be traded for some Canadian player and if we package Antropov,Kidd and Clarke Wilm we should be able to get Sakic and Forsberg out of Colordo. But only do that trade if Colorado throws in a 1st round pick. |
c'mon bbor....no way in hell Colorado would do that deal.
Swap Ponikarovski for Wilm, though, and we're golden. |
bbor, no guesses at all on the Leafs trivia? I'm speechless...
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we'll give you Wendel Clark for Sundin. how's that? |
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Hell, that could be anybody. My question is which Leaf has the best chance of beating or tying that record this weekend? :) |
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Busy at work...gonna take a run at those questions tonight....some of those are brlliant...the only 1 that came directly to my mind was Garpenlov....I can STILL hear the ringing post behind Potvin. |
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Johan Garpenlov? What the hell are you people trying to do me here? Why are you bringing up Johan Garpenlov? We stand on the presipice of the end of an era of Wings greatness and you people are bringing up Johan Garpenlov hitting the post against the Leafs. You are horrible people. Isn't my current pain and anguish enough for you people??? BTW, my favorite Garpenlov memory was a game agains tthe Whalers where Pat Verbeek attacked him and Steve Yzerman had to go to Garpenlov's defense, which resulted in Yzerman getting a "Third Man In" penalty and getting kicked out of the game. |
in non-Toronto/Detroit news...Paul Kariya says he's ready to play game 6. hopefully his definition of "ready" is not the same as Rob Blake's.
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An easy question, but a natural follow-up.... Just seconds after the sound of iron finished echoing, who scored the OT-winner for the Leafs in that game? |
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It was Mike Gartner who got credit, I believe. |
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That would be game 6... |
WOW! The crowd in Calgary is electric tonight.
Go Flames! :) Todd |
I decree that all Leaf overtime goals are memorable......i like Randy Wood's ot goal....as well as Cory Cross.......heres the question...what teams were they against.....what year....and what did it make the series(ex. 2 game to 1)
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Wood was against the Hawks. Couldn't tell you anything else about it, tho. Sometime in the early-mid 90s SI |
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Well, you know. If the Senators had heart... Never mind. Randy Wood... I'll have to think about that. Damn, I'm slipping. Edit: If Wood was against the Hawks, I guess it must have been the 1995 series. |
By the way, for those of you who were reading the trivia and wondering "What the hell is it with this guy and the HNIC opening music montage?"... well, see, it's like this.
When HNIC has a good music montage at the start of the game, the Leafs' chances of winning go up exponentially. When it's something else -- such as Ron MacLean trying to sound poetic, or the dreaded "fans milling around outside" shot that the CBC thinks we find so fascinating -- the Leafs usually lose. Perfect example: Sunday's game against Philadephia. Instead of a montage, we get MacLean waxing poetic about Bobby Clarke and Keith Primeau and the beating heart of a captain. No music. Right then, you knew we were dead. Combined with the afternoon start, and my wife might as well have babbled though the Tkachuks, because the Leafs were done. Compare that to Game Seven against the Sens. HNIC leads off with a rocking montage set to The Trews "Not Ready to Go". The Leafs go on to blow Ottawa out of the building. By the way, I'm declaring "Not Ready to Go" as the official song of the 2004 Leafs playoff run. Yes, I have the authority to do this. It will go up there with the official songs of 1993 (Boys are Back in Town, by Thin Lizzie), 1994 (the answer to San Jose question in the trivia pack), and 2002's (Hero, from the Spider Man soundtrack*). *Yeah, yeah, I know. I didn't say they all had to be good songs. |
Close enough.....Randy Wood scored the ot winner in game 6 against Chicago in the 84-95 playoffs.....LEafs were trailing 3 games to 2....and it extended the series to 7.....the Gardens went nuts that night....as did I....and our hearts were broken in a 5-2 game 7 loss....
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Hatcher showing his true colors.
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speaking of Hatcher and colors, am I the only one really distracted by the Home Depot commercial where they are scanning all the hockey players to match paint colors, and there's a guy from the Stars wearing #2? |
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Why is the goalie in that commerical wearing the number six? What goalie has ever worn #6? Didn't anyone involved in the commercial know that? Nobody thought to point out that? Come on people, I don't ask for much! |
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84-95, man that was a long series ;) SI |
Wow.....Is H_B still alive?
Cory Cross' OT goal was amazing....I remeber thinking"who the hell shot that?" it was way too good a shot for Cross to have taken. |
Congrats to the Flames.
It is going to be really hard not to root for them being a Western conference guy and despising Colorado. I am bummed, but, hell...I will get over it (faster than I did from 99-01 and last year). I would susspect that there will be 3 coaching positions available this summer. I like Barry Smith and hope that he stays. I don't know what to think about Lewis. Again, congrats to the Flames and their fans. They were the better team. |
Damn....Gelinas again.
Poor Cujo:( |
The Wings just didn't seem to have that fire that they had a few years back. That was when you just felt like when they got to OT they said "OK, this is our time!" I think they need to take a hard look at Lewis and see if he's really the man for the job. Two straight early playoff exits says a lot with the guys on this team.
Please don't let Steve be finished... |
I jumped up and down when Gelinas scored just now. I can't stand the Wings, and it was great to see them go down again. I hope the Sharks FINALLY close out the Avalanche, and I really want Philly to lose, but I don't see that one happening. My dream final four this year would be Calgary, San Jose, Tampa Bay, and Toronto. At least then I wouldn't have anybody to hate.
Great stuff tonight. I wish I'd noticed Kiprusoff earlier in the season, because I would've watched a whole lot more Flames games. Unlike Giguere's regular season last year (which was good but not great), Kiprusoff has kept this stuff up all season long since he took over the job. I hope he can keep this going for years to come, because they could build something great in Calgary around him and Iginla. |
Huzzah! The evil Wings are dead!!!
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And all is right in the world tonight. God bless Martin Gelinas.
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I would be willing to bet that Lewis will indeed be gone. Let's face it, this was Scotty's team. I think Lewis was put into a position to follow up the greatest hockey coach ever. That's a big order to fill. I realize that he was probably the best guy to take the reigns but it is obvious he can't get a team to give that extra 1 percent when it counts. |
Will Cujo bear the brunt of this failure again?
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Sorry, H_B, Hurst, and all the Wings fans out there. It really sucks when you have high hopes and they don't pan out (KU basketball every year, last year with the Cubs, the year Randy Johnson went to the Astros, practically every season with the Oilers, a couple of years with the Rockets before and after the title), so I'm going to spend the next 24 hours not bagging on Wings fans. That night when your team that you thought could win the title gets bounced once and for all, the only thing left is shock and that crappy feeling that you really can't come back now because it really is over. :(
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I don't see how fans could blame him, if he does. The Flames just wanted it way more than the Wings did, and sometimes that's enough.
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That seems kindof unfair considering he gave up 3 or less goals every game this series. SI |
He was even better in last seasons play-offs and they still blamed him.
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Good word. I was watching NHL tonight and listening to Ferraro talk about the Flames D. One thing he mentioned, that I kinda noticed during the series was that Calgary did an excellent job of keeping the Wings on the outer edge of the offensive zone. When Kiprusoff did give a rebound, there weren't any Wings to follow up with another shot. |
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