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Lathum 08-01-2023 09:18 AM

The hypocrisy of this is staggering. we watched Trump for 4 years charge the secret service outrageous amounts to stay at his properties not to mention his daughter getting Chinese patents, etc... and now all these complicit GOP fucks are clutching their pearls because Joe may have helped Hunter, not a civil servant, based on the testimony of a convicted felon.

Thomkal 08-01-2023 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3408221)
I believe Joe participating in phone calls is a new disclosure? I don't remember reading about it and not the 20 times.

I get Joe may not have formally discussed business dealings (e.g. contractual details etc.) but participation in actual calls increases the odds that he did listen in and was a party to some details (and not just niceties as mentioned below).

Still not a smoking gun though (e.g. show me the money trail to Joe, show me the relevant text, emails etc. to Joe). Unless Joe received some $, this is still a nothing burger and, at best, a blind spot for his frakking son.

Devon Archer debate focuses on Hunter Biden ‘illusion of access’ | The Hill



It was already out there that Joe talked to him, but all indications were it was friendly nice to meet you stuff. No business deals discussed. Democrats at the meeting want the transcript of the meeting because it shows. Republicans just want to say he's corrupt because he was talking a corrupt businessman. If they ever did up email or phone conversations that show otherwise they have absolutely nothing on him

Edward64 08-01-2023 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3408227)
It was already out there that Joe talked to him, but all indications were it was friendly nice to meet you stuff. No business deals discussed. Democrats at the meeting want the transcript of the meeting because it shows. Republicans just want to say he's corrupt because he was talking a corrupt businessman. If they ever did up email or phone conversations that show otherwise they have absolutely nothing on him


It may well be no business deals discussed but I can easily see Joe being aware of the players in the room, the reason for the meeting, and Hunter prepping him with some key details & stuff to say or not to say (normal stuff in any big meeting).

I'd be surprised if there are actual transcripts but an email summary/recap is probably more likely. Yes, I'd like to see those come out if not already.

Edward64 08-01-2023 05:55 PM

Joe should get a handle on this. I assume Adams went so public because things weren't getting done through regular channels. I don't know why Joe isn't helping, I think its reasonable for NY to get more $.

NYC Mayor Adams warns Biden about spiraling migrant crisis - POLITICO
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Images of migrants forced to sleep on Manhattan sidewalks in recent days are hammering home a point New York City Mayor Eric Adams has long been trying to make to President Joe Biden.

“We need help,” Adams said Monday. “And it’s not going to get any better. From this moment on, it’s downhill.”
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Photos, videos and interviews from the street outside the midtown Manhattan hotel doubling as an intake center are circulating online and in the national media. Groups of newly arrived men resigned to sleeping on cardboard boxes have found that, as Adams has repeatedly warned the White House, there is no room for them.
I agree Congress should fix this but if it does get fixed, it probably won't happen before the elections. Heck, GOP will be enjoying watching a Blue state struggle with illegal immigration. So Joe should fix or put a bandaid on it somehow.

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The images are stark, but they’re unlikely to prompt Biden and his top aides to take immediate action as they’ve said the national immigration problem requires a congressional solution.

Adams has blamed the White House for not sending enough financial aid or acting on requests like expedited work authorization. More than 93,000 migrants have come to the city since last spring. More than half remain in its care.



Ksyrup 08-01-2023 08:36 PM

Posting this not for the content but more for the fact that it just struck me watching this that it's been 2.5 years since this video but Mitch has aged about 20 years. Wow.


Edward64 08-01-2023 09:34 PM

Mitch - 81
Bernie - 81
Joe - 80
Trump - 77

I have to believe all of them are experiencing some level of cognitive decline. The question is how significant/quickly for each. Maybe Mitch drew the short straw.

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People may experience a slow and gradual decline in cognitive abilities, while others may experience a more rapid progression. In general, the progression of cognitive impairment is faster in the later stages (moderate and severe) compared to the earlier stages (no impairment and mild).

RainMaker 08-01-2023 09:44 PM

Eric Adam's is great. He just complains about how shitty his city is and wonders if there is anyone in charge of that city who might be able to help.

Ksyrup 08-01-2023 10:18 PM

Falling a few times surely accelerates the decline.

JPhillips 08-03-2023 02:07 PM

No surprise that the GOP has been lying about what's been said about Biden,


RainMaker 08-03-2023 03:28 PM

I guess it's been reported that Feinstein's daughter has power of attorney over her. Not sure there is any precedent for that in the Senate but not very encouraging to have a United States Senator who can't make decisions for herself.

PilotMan 08-03-2023 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3408449)
No surprise that the GOP has been lying about what's been said about Biden,





But it's not their responsibility to be correct. It's your fault if you believe it, they can say whatever they want, cos first amendment!


NobodyHere 08-03-2023 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3408467)
I guess it's been reported that Feinstein's daughter has power of attorney over her. Not sure there is any precedent for that in the Senate but not very encouraging to have a United States Senator who can't make decisions for herself.


Probably a stupid question, but is the daughter allowed to vote in the Senate in her mother's name? Assuming the report is true.

Lathum 08-03-2023 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3408449)
No surprise that the GOP has been lying about what's been said about Biden,



The goalposts constantly shift with these MAGA idiots. Since there is no testimony claiming any wrongdoing they will just say it was implied and Joe obviously knew what was happening.

Brian Swartz 08-03-2023 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere
is the daughter allowed to vote in the Senate in her mother's name? Assuming the report is true.


No. That's not what power of attorney does.

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Originally Posted by PilotMan
But it's not their responsibility to be correct. It's your fault if you believe it, they can say whatever they want, cos first amendment!


Sure beats the snot out of the alternative of people being criminally liable for not believing the official line (in general, not on any one specific issue).

JPhillips 08-03-2023 04:29 PM

Everybody over sixty should have a trusted child with power of attorney. It's a guard against chaos if a sudden illness or injury occurs. I've always heard it recommended as you get older.

Lathum 08-05-2023 11:41 AM

Biden is putting his name on economic progress, but will voters just drive right by? | CNN Politics

I love this. Fuck these assholes who take credit for jobs and projects they voted against. There should be some provision that states if they take the money they have to publicly admit they voted against it.

Lathum 08-05-2023 11:43 AM

dola- I would be fine if there was a rule that if your rep votes against funding their district doesn't get any of it.

Lathum 08-09-2023 09:15 AM


RainMaker 08-09-2023 02:04 PM

Better hope it's not serious or no more judges get confirmed till 2025.

Thomkal 08-09-2023 03:12 PM

FBI announced today that they shot and killed a man in Utah today that they were trying to serve a search warrant on after he made various threats against the President, VP, and several people involved in the Trump indictments

Ghost Econ 08-09-2023 03:30 PM

Somewhere, an overweight balding guy in sunglasses, a Jason Aldean shirt and a miscolored American Flag hat is yelling something about Ruby Ridge in front of his freezer chest in the garage.

Lathum 08-09-2023 03:46 PM

These people are such fucking ghouls



RainMaker 08-09-2023 04:38 PM

Anything to keep the grift going.

PilotMan 08-09-2023 04:47 PM

Just wait until the "say his name" banter starts up

RainMaker 08-09-2023 05:16 PM

Gravy Seals



GrantDawg 08-09-2023 05:19 PM

Seems like a reasonable guy. I hear that it is ok to do crimes as long as you really believe deep in your heart the other side stole an election.

RainMaker 08-09-2023 05:55 PM

Reading through the warrant, it was Truth Social that turned him in to the FBI.

BYU 14 08-09-2023 06:07 PM

Well, at least we got a couple dozen weapons out of the hands of an irresponsible gun owner, fucking Clown, how did he think that would any other way than what he asked for?

Now on to martyrdom on Fox

Lathum 08-09-2023 07:20 PM

The spin on this is already amazing. Is it really so hard for these people to say, yeah, this guy was on our side but he was a looney who put horrible shit on social media and we disavow his actions.

This is why we will never find common ground with these people. The refuse to budge an inch regardless of how obvious the situation.

Edward64 08-09-2023 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14 (Post 3408859)
Well, at least we got a couple dozen weapons out of the hands of an irresponsible gun owner, fucking Clown, how did he think that would any other way than what he asked for?

Now on to martyrdom on Fox


Suicide by FBI

Ksyrup 08-09-2023 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3408860)
The spin on this is already amazing. Is it really so hard for these people to say, yeah, this guy was on our side but he was a looney who put horrible shit on social media and we disavow his actions.

This is why we will never find common ground with these people. The refuse to budge an inch regardless of how obvious the situation.


They can't, because too many of their supporters identify with him.

Brian Swartz 08-10-2023 04:23 AM

In just over two years, credit card debt has increased from 770B to break the 1 trillion mark for the first time. I'd say that's an unsustainable problem.

PilotMan 08-10-2023 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Swartz (Post 3408875)
In just over two years, credit card debt has increased from 770B to break the 1 trillion mark for the first time. I'd say that's an unsustainable problem.



Yeah, but both my youngest kids just got credit cards, so that alone probably accounts for it.

PilotMan 08-10-2023 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3408860)
The spin on this is already amazing. Is it really so hard for these people to say, yeah, this guy was on our side but he was a looney who put horrible shit on social media and we disavow his actions.

This is why we will never find common ground with these people. The refuse to budge an inch regardless of how obvious the situation.



The headline I saw was "Man Killed During FBI Raid After Allegedly Threatening Biden."


Pretty sure my Massie (R)-KY sold my information to get on this particular mailing list. I usually get on all the freaky lists after I've sent something to my reps.

Edward64 08-10-2023 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Swartz (Post 3408875)
In just over two years, credit card debt has increased from 770B to break the 1 trillion mark for the first time. I'd say that's an unsustainable problem.


I'm pretty sure you underestimate our ability to sustain financial gluttony.

US National Debt by Year
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2000 - $5.67T
2004 - $7.37T
2008 - $10.02T
2012 - $16.06T
2016 - $19.57T
2020 - $27.74T
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2022 - $30.82T

Nice to have national debt 5x in 22 years.

Brian Swartz 08-10-2023 07:57 AM

There's a huge difference between national debt and consumer debt. I would say both are bad in general, but the consequences of them are not the same.

bronconick 08-10-2023 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3408855)
Gravy Seals




Well, at least he walked the walk, I guess and didn't live long enough to cry at his court appearance like all the "manly" 1/6 MAGAs.

Edward64 08-10-2023 01:27 PM

It was nice while it lasted, but here comes another funding battle.

House GOP weighs government shutdown escape hatch: A deal with Dems - POLITICO
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If Speaker Kevin McCarthy has any hope of avoiding a shutdown this fall, he’ll probably need help from Democrats.

But he’s not guaranteed to get it — at least not yet.

By Sept. 30, House GOP leaders have to pass a major bipartisan spending deal or a short-term patch to keep the government open
Article is basically about Dems possibly helping out McCarthy

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On each of those items, senior Republicans widely acknowledge the difficulty of corralling their hard-right wing. Some of them also worry that Democrats won’t be in any mood to help them out of a bind on rules for debate, even if it means a shutdown.
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Privately, senior Democrats aren’t ruling out such a bailout ... they’re waiting to see what the GOP puts forward or can get over the finish line themselves next month, according to two Democrats granted anonymity to discuss internal conversations.

Yeah, let the moderate factions do some traditional horsetrading.

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“At some point we’ll have to deal with the reality that America is a two-party system. If we can’t do it on our own, there may come a point in time when you want to have to deal with Democrats,” said Rep. Dave Joyce (R-Ohio), who leads the centrist Republican Governance Group and has been part of GOP spending talks.
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“Life is about horse trading. It’s about give and take, and I’m always willing to do that,” said Rep. Brad Schneider (D-Ill.), a member of the centrist New Democrat Coalition.

Schneider was one of roughly 50 Democrats who voted with Republicans the last time that the GOP needed an assist to manage their own floor. He and others helped advance a must-pass debt deal between President Joe Biden and McCarthy in May as dozens of conservatives revolted.
I'm guessing fair chance we'll end up with this ...

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Still, many acknowledge that their party will probably help support a stopgap funding bill — as long as McCarthy keeps it free of conservative poison pills, such as abortion and diversity-related measures, that the GOP has packed into several major pieces of legislation this year.

RainMaker 08-10-2023 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Swartz (Post 3408875)
In just over two years, credit card debt has increased from 770B to break the 1 trillion mark for the first time. I'd say that's an unsustainable problem.


I don't think they view that as a problem. It's a benefit.

Edward64 08-11-2023 12:12 PM

Good, dig deeper. Fair odds there's more dirt hidden away (or ignored) somewhere.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...ba2e28844093bb
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Attorney General Merrick Garland said Friday that “extraordinary circumstances” surrounding the federal criminal investigation into Hunter Biden contributed to his decision to give the top prosecutor in the probe special counsel status.
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Garland said that Weiss will continue to serve as the US Attorney for the District of Delaware as he takes on this new post. And he noted that in the special counsel position, Weiss will “not be subject to the day-to-day supervision of any official of the department.”
Good this also. Let's have an eager prosecutor/team bring out everything in court and just play it out.

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Hunter Biden criminal case appears to be headed to trial weeks after judge pushed back on proposed plea deal

Bad day for Hunter.

GrantDawg 08-11-2023 12:20 PM

Why hadn't that been done? They drag this stuff out forever, and this is going to be right in the middle of the election season. Jack Smith and David Weiss should have gotten these appointments 2-3 years ago. None of this stuff just happened yesterday.

PilotMan 08-11-2023 12:32 PM

So Hunter offered up access for 5M, while his dad was VP, but his dad had nothing to do with it. And that alone is impeachable for Joe.

But, Kushner, who was actually working in the WH, was the main point of contact for the ME and Saudi's and had a direct line to the president, gets 2B directly from the Saudi's and they bought his albatross of a building and Kushner PROFITED while he worked in the WH, but he's now out of office, so it's all ok? Like he doesn't have any sort of connections or contact anymore? Really? That's the line of demarcation?

Edward64 08-11-2023 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3408933)
Why hadn't that been done? They drag this stuff out forever, and this is going to be right in the middle of the election season. Jack Smith and David Weiss should have gotten these appointments 2-3 years ago. None of this stuff just happened yesterday.


Re: dragging it out

For the trial, I'm going to guess the "deal" that blew up was the reason why not earlier. Probably took a while to agree to and then the judge had some questions, and the attorneys didn't seem to be initially aligned. BTW how the heck does something like below happen? Isn't it all written down and all the important questions asked & answered?

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The judge asked the parties to hammer out the agreement and return later, leaving Hunter Biden to enter a not-guilty plea while it's litigated.

Lawyers for Hunter Biden had also indicated they believed that the plea agreement would settle all matters facing the president's son, but prosecutors said that other investigations continued.

"After the hearing, the parties continued negotiating but reached an impasse.
A trial is therefore in order," prosecutors said in their Friday filing.

I really don't know if it was a sweetheart deal. I read some that said yes, I read some that said no (so no surprise there wasn't a consensus). But I am glad it's going to trial and see it play out.

The special prosecutor thing was apparently a surprise and quick. Weiss asked on Tue and Garland okayed today. I do wonder if there was some "new evidence" that escalated his role ... dunno.

Looks like 2024 is going to be full of Trump/Hunter trial stuff.

Thomkal 08-11-2023 03:32 PM

So now Republicans who begged for the Special Counsel are unhappy because its the same guy who made the plea deal with Hunter

JPhillips 08-11-2023 06:00 PM

Josh Marshall has a good thread on how the legal system is tilted towards GOP expectations. On the one hand a Dem admin investigates and will take Hunter to trial. On the other, everyone just assumes Trump will end all investigations if he wins.

RainMaker 08-11-2023 10:46 PM

Human traffickers might have killed a 3 year old. Cross country bus trips in this heat are not a good idea for little kids.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/11/u...bbott-bus.html

Atocep 08-12-2023 01:34 PM

Texas: What about the unborn child's rights?

Also Texas: An unborn child doesn't have rights under the US Constitution

Texas questions rights of a fetus after a prison guard who had a stillborn baby sues | AP News

Edward64 08-12-2023 01:47 PM

There's a chance they'll get away with that specific argument on a technicality. But yeah, poor defense strategy.

Texas fights compensation for prison worker who lost her baby | The Texas Tribune
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The state’s argument relies largely — but not exclusively — on the timing of the tragedy. Issa lost her unborn child seven months before the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in the famous Dobbs decision.

“This Court need not weigh into the difficult question of whether, post-Dobbs, an unborn child possesses constitutional rights under the Fourteenth Amendment,” wrote Benjamin Dower, with the attorney general’s special litigation office, in a January filing. “Even if he or she does, that right was not clearly established on November 15, 2021.”

The change in tune when it’s the state accused of wrongdoing is striking, said Mary Ziegler, a legal historian focused on abortion and fetal rights at University of California, Davis. She said she didn’t understand why the state opted to fight the lawsuit instead of taking the opportunity to say, “We don’t treat unborn children like this in the state of Texas.”

flere-imsaho 08-12-2023 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Swartz (Post 3408885)
There's a huge difference between national debt and consumer debt. I would say both are bad in general, but the consequences of them are not the same.


:+1:

And anyone who equates them at any other than a wholly superficial level does nothing but betray their financial illiteracy.

Edward64 08-12-2023 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3406472)
Timely article that provides more details on the impetus. Lots to unpack in the article. The article made it sound that Caribbean leaders were reluctant to support a prior intervention but is okay with one now (no real details on the politics).


re: Haiti

Glad UN & US could find a country that will (likely) accept the assignment. It's evident there isn't a lot of "will" here so I predict failure.

The US wants Kenya to lead a force in Haiti with 1,000 police. Watchdogs say they'll export abuse | AP News
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Now the U.S., as this month’s president of the U.N. Security Council, is preparing to put forward a resolution to authorize a mission in Haiti led by Kenyan police, who have relatively little overseas experience in such large numbers and don’t speak French, which is used in Haiti.
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Kenya’s interest was announced on Saturday, with its foreign minister saying his government has “accepted to positively consider” leading a force in Haiti and sending 1,000 police officers to train the Haitian National Police, “restore normalcy” and protect strategic installations.

Article said the Kenyan police don't have a great reputation at home. I'm sure Kenya isn't doing without some $. Wonder what they are getting.

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For more than nine months, the U.N. had appealed unsuccessfully for a country to lead an effort to restore order to the poorest nation in the Western Hemisphere.


I wish Haiti had a lot of oil or rare earth metals. Whole different story then.

flere-imsaho 08-13-2023 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3408947)
So now Republicans who begged for the Special Counsel are unhappy because its the same guy who made the plea deal with Hunter


Oh, it's worse:

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Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.) does not think much of the appointment of U.S. Attorney David Weiss as special counsel for the Justice Department’s investigation into Hunter Biden, the president’s son.

Attorney General Merrick Garland “knows Weiss will protect Hunter,” Blackburn scoffed in a social media post on Saturday.

But Weiss’ appointment is exactly what she and other congressional Republicans requested. Special counsel is the same designation Garland gave Jack Smith, currently prosecuting former President Donald Trump.

Last September, a group of 31 Senate Republicans, including Blackburn, asked specifically for Weiss to be appointed to oversee the probe to “provide additional assurances to the American people that the Hunter Biden investigation is free from political influence.” Weiss had already led the investigation into his business dealings, which began under President Donald Trump.

Republicans on the House side sent a similar letter in April 2022, although they did not name Weiss specifically. Blackburn and two other Republican senators reiterated their request for a special counsel two months ago.

flere-imsaho 08-13-2023 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3408956)
Josh Marshall has a good thread on how the legal system is tilted towards GOP expectations. On the one hand a Dem admin investigates and will take Hunter to trial. On the other, everyone just assumes Trump will end all investigations if he wins.


Republican Presidents destroy the economy. Democratic Presidents build it back up.

Republican Presidents run up debt. Democratic Presidents bring the budget deficit down.

Republican Presidents piss off allies across the world. Democratic Presidents diplomatically bring them back into the fold.

Republican politicians, and specifically Republican Presidents, are nothing but a problem for this country.

Thomkal 08-13-2023 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho (Post 3409007)



"fake news, fake news!" even though a copy of the letter is out there.

Edward64 08-16-2023 06:17 PM

Joe, the good news is recession is off the table.

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Fed economists are in fact no longer projecting a recession, according to the minutes, which Fed Chair Jerome Powell divulged in his post-meeting news conference last month.

The bad news is because the economy is so strong (projected 3Q annualized GDP is 5.8%) that Fed may be hesitant to take the brakes off the inflation fight. Meaning, rates/beatings will continue until inflation/morale improves.

A tad worried for Joe right now. The Fed was projected to start decreasing rates in early 2024. If not, the economy/inflation may become a big issue next year.

Thomkal 08-16-2023 06:53 PM

I'm sure House Republicans will want to impeach Powell now

RainMaker 08-17-2023 05:18 PM

New York Dems at it again.


She Disagrees With Roe v. Wade. Brooklyn Dems Just Picked Her for Supreme Court. - THE CITY

Edward64 08-18-2023 09:27 AM

This article surprised me. I assume the focus group was conducted fairly as it was by a "liberal-leaning polling firm" HIT Strategies.

Personally, I think Joe has been okay on the economy and certainly not "pathetic". (It can become pathetic if inflation/markets don't get under control but I'm not there yet)

'Pathetic': Voters of color slam Biden's performance on the economy - POLITICO
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In a focus group last week, eight men of color who voted for President Joe Biden in 2020 were asked to describe their feelings about the economy.

The answers were bleak.

“Discouraged,” one said. “Pathetic,” complained another. “Pessimistic,” said a third.

The signs of dissatisfaction with Democrats didn’t end there. Respondents were also asked about the rise in crime and border issues. Democrats got zeros across the board.
Perhaps most troubling of all, some respondents indicated that they preferred the economy under former President Donald Trump.

“Our economy is the lowest it’s been in god knows how long,” said a Hispanic respondent who lives in New Jersey. “We keep [sending] money to Ukraine and other countries rather than helping ourselves.”

The responses underscored a harsh reality for the Biden campaign as it braces for what is expected to be a bruising reelection bid. The president has to sell his record on the economy — in which he has a credible case to make — and it simply isn’t resonating with voters of color who supported him in the first place. In fact, they don’t see much progress as having been made at all.

GrantDawg 08-18-2023 10:04 AM

New campaign phrase for 2024, "It's the grocery store, stupid." When prices on everyday items are inflated so much over just three years ago working people feel that pain the hardest.

Sent from my SM-S916U using Tapatalk

PilotMan 08-18-2023 10:06 AM

You mean the capitalists aren't liking capitalism when it affects them?

Edward64 08-18-2023 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3409248)
New campaign phrase for 2024, "It's the grocery store, stupid." When prices on everyday items are inflated so much over just three years ago working people feel that pain the hardest.

Sent from my SM-S916U using Tapatalk


I like it. You've got a future as a strategic campaign advisor ... or a marketing strategist, I hear InBev has a couple openings in the US.

RainMaker 08-18-2023 02:43 PM

Biden has been pretty bad and the polls show it. One of the few good things he did was get us out of Afghanistan.

Lets be honest, his campaign (and Dems in general) is just that the other guy is worse. It's been working and probably will work as long as Trump is the face of the Republicans. But doing anything above that would go against their donors and just not going to happen.

Edward64 08-18-2023 10:21 PM

Nice move Biden. But am a little confused on our alliances in APAC.

From what I understand, South Korea wants to join the Quad but its the US that is hesitant. Maybe this paves the way to SK joining the Asian NATO with Japan, Australia, India & US. I think India is likely the weak/hesitant link and SK will be more aligned with our interests.

At Camp David, Biden hails ‘new era of partnership’ between U.S., South Korea and Japan - POLITICO
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President Joe Biden on Friday signed historic agreements with the leaders of South Korea and Japan, bridging the fraught history between the two countries with promises of strengthening each nation’s economic and national security interests.

In what was a clear message to China, Biden welcomed Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida and South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol for the first trilateral meeting between the three countries that wasn’t held on the sidelines of an international gathering.

And while we're at it, Philippines should be next to join the party. They were aligning more with China under Duterte, but BongBong Marcos now seems to understand the China threat and has invited US back.

Edward64 08-29-2023 07:04 AM

Good step in the right direction. Much more to do but have to start somewhere. Pharma, Providers and Payers all need to be worked on.

(I'm still waiting for a easy to find, fully transparent and upfront pricing (best estimate, range etc. is appropriate) for all hospital procedures and doctor's services)

Merck, Amgen, AbbVie products among first 10 drugs selected for Medicare price negotiations - MarketWatch
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Medicare on Tuesday announced the first 10 drugs selected for price negotiations, launching a historic and highly contentious process with big implications for pharmaceutical companies, taxpayers and patients.
None of below drugs applies to me but good to see Diabetes and Insulin is the list. I assume these are heavily prescribed drugs.

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The selected drugs are the Bristol Myers Squibb Co. BMY, -0.71% blood thinner Eliquis, Boehringer Ingelheim’s heart failure drug Jardiance, Johnson and Johnson JNJ, -1.18% blood thinner Xarelto, Merck & Co. Inc. MRK, -1.16% diabetes drug Januvia, AstraZeneca AZN, +0.57% heart failure drug Farxiga, Novartis AG NVS, +0.55% heart failure drug Entresto, Amgen Inc. AMGN, +0.07% rheumatoid arthritis drug Enbrel, AbbVie Inc. ABBV, +0.50% blood cancer drug Imbruvica, Johnson and Johnson psoriasis treatment Stelara, and Novo Nordisk NVO, +0.57% insulin Fiasp.

Lawsuits are inevitable.

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The manufacturers of the selected drugs have until Oct. 1 to sign agreements to participate in the program ... is the subject of at least eight lawsuits filed by drugmakers and industry groups.
Every little bit helps, and before you know it, we've got $500B in savings.

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The federal government is expected to save nearly $100 billion over 10 years through the negotiation program, which will broaden to include additional drugs in future years, according to the Congressional Budget Office. That’s helping to pay for an overhaul of the Medicare prescription-drug benefit that will slash costs at the pharmacy counter for many enrollees, policy experts say.

Dutch 08-30-2023 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3409287)
Biden has been pretty bad and the polls show it. One of the few good things he did was get us out of Afghanistan.

Lets be honest, his campaign (and Dems in general) is just that the other guy is worse. It's been working and probably will work as long as Trump is the face of the Republicans. But doing anything above that would go against their donors and just not going to happen.


This is assuming, of course, that enough voters are influenced by TV and social media enough to believe that the higher costs of living, inflation, chaotic immigration, and the exodus of corporations and people from high tax states to lower taxes states over the last couple of years was all instrumented by the GOP.

I think the Dems hade positioned their strategy very well to pull that off.

Ghost Econ 08-30-2023 10:25 AM

To the surprise of no one, the GOP have decided a shutdown is OK. I'm sure Edward64 will have some illuminating take on how Dems are to blame while trying to appear neutral, but this is literally the GOP's best play as we push towards 2024. Their base will eat it up and undecideds will only remember how the government shut down under Biden and anything negative associated with it is his fault. Like how prices keep rising because Conservative business owners finalized realized they can get away with it because the President will be blamed. They get the bonus of record profits and hurting their political opponents.

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Edward64 08-30-2023 10:35 AM

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To the surprise of no one, the GOP have decided a shutdown is OK. I'm sure Edward64 will have some illuminating take on how Dems are to blame while trying to appear neutral, but this is literally the GOP's best play as we push towards 2024. Their base will eat it up and undecideds will only remember how the government shut down under Biden and anything negative associated with it is his fault. Like how prices keep rising because Conservative business owners finalized realized they can get away with it because the President will be blamed. They get the bonus of record profits and hurting their political opponents.

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Not at all about blame, and yes about neutral (I'm a moderate independent, I see fault on both sides). Just another one of those reading comprehension handicaps, making assumptions that makes you a ...

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SirFozzie 08-30-2023 10:49 AM

Following up on the Jacksonville shooting and DeSantis being booed and the 942nd push for "Surely this will allow for a meaningful conversation on gun control" (to fail like the previous 941), just had a thought.

Saw an article that talked about how the United Kingdom's Prime Minister was issuing a crackdown on "Zombie Knives" (ie, very large knives up to machetes, stuff you would see in a Zombie Movie.

And before you go "libruls wokemindvirus.." this is no Left-Wing fantasy. This is the leader of the Conservative party, who are fighting culture wars all over the place, doing this.

Now, here's my thought. This is two different worlds, when it comes to weaponry. In the UK, a right-wing party is proposing a crackdown on big knives, where here in the US, people are pushing "Hey, I want to carry my AK-47 into a crowded store, and you can't stop me" policies.

Just... two different worldviews.

Edward64 08-30-2023 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 3410240)
Just... two different worldviews.


I saw below article on a UK machete attack (they didn't call it zombie knife though). I'll be honest, the first thing that came to mind was ... it would be good to have a concealed carry right then ...

Moment knife thugs armed with huge machetes brawl in street in front of crowds of revellers at Notting Hill carnival - with final day 'marred by violence' as eight are stabbed and police officer is sexually assaulted | Daily Mail Online


Lathum 08-30-2023 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 3410240)
Following up on the Jacksonville shooting and DeSantis being booed and the 942nd push for "Surely this will allow for a meaningful conversation on gun control" (to fail like the previous 941), just had a thought.

Saw an article that talked about how the United Kingdom's Prime Minister was issuing a crackdown on "Zombie Knives" (ie, very large knives up to machetes, stuff you would see in a Zombie Movie.

And before you go "libruls wokemindvirus.." this is no Left-Wing fantasy. This is the leader of the Conservative party, who are fighting culture wars all over the place, doing this.

Now, here's my thought. This is two different worlds, when it comes to weaponry. In the UK, a right-wing party is proposing a crackdown on big knives, where here in the US, people are pushing "Hey, I want to carry my AK-47 into a crowded store, and you can't stop me" policies.

Just... two different worldviews.


My wifes sister born and raised in the US. Met a guy in England and got married. Has lived there for about 15 years and now has 2 daughters Said they were thinking of moving to the US since he doesn't have much family there but between Dobbs, the MAGA right and the gun violence said no way they would ever move back.

NobodyHere 08-30-2023 01:35 PM

McConnell appears to freeze again during news conference

You know, if your McConnell keeps on freezing up again and again it might be time to just reformat it. I hope they saved the product key.

Ksyrup 08-30-2023 01:41 PM

It's on a ... what predated the 5.25" floppy?

Ghost Econ 08-30-2023 02:02 PM

Punch card

Flasch186 08-30-2023 02:20 PM

The Biden Presidency - 2020
 
I’m sure those on the right are all over my Facebook wall about how this is elder abuse and there should be a cap on age to serve…..




Hmmmm


My Facebook must be broken


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albionmoonlight 08-30-2023 02:24 PM

I realize that these people all bring it on themselves by hanging on too long.

But watching McConnell, Feinstein, etc. publicly humiliate themselves like this is so sad.

They should be retired and sitting in a garden surrounded by grandkids.

Ghost Econ 08-30-2023 02:31 PM

The sad thing is we almost need McConnell to hang on for eternity because his replacement is almost certainly going to be massive shitbag who will just try to fuck things up worse.

The question being about re-election almost makes this seem like an Onion video.


Ksyrup 08-30-2023 02:38 PM

This was just McConnell pretending to be as bad off as Biden mentally to avoid a question he didn't want to answer. Brilliant!

thesloppy 08-30-2023 03:00 PM

He's strokin'! That's what he be doing.

RainMaker 08-30-2023 03:10 PM

Really cool that the country is run by people who would be in a nursing home if they were anyone else.

cuervo72 08-30-2023 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by thesloppy (Post 3410277)
He's strokin'! That's what he be doing.


Mitch McConnell Mitch McConnell Mitch McConnell Mitch McConnell OOOO SHIT Mitch McConnell


/thinks wistfully of Fritz

cuervo72 08-30-2023 03:36 PM

Damn, I mean it's a pretty good thread post if I remember it 20 years later.

Edward64 08-31-2023 06:55 AM

Sanjay Gupta thinks stroke or seizure is less likely (able to walk away), see about 5 min mark.

He said long list of possibilities but offered up like "parkinsonian and meds were wearing off". He had a good insight. He said his aides didn't seem surprised by it implying this may be happening more than just the past 2 episodes.

IMO time to give McConnell & Feinstein the gold watch retirement party.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN39Ukn3788

Edward64 08-31-2023 04:02 PM

Cleared for duty

Capitol physician medically clears McConnell after health scares prompt new questions over his leadership position | CNN Politics
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“I have consulted with Leader McConnell and conferred with his neurology team. After evaluating yesterday’s incident, I have informed Leader McConnell that he is medically clear to continue with his schedule as planned,” Dr. Brian Monahan, the attending doctor for the Capitol, said in a statement released through McConnell’s office.

“Occasional lightheadedness is not uncommon in concussion recovery and can also be expected as a result of dehydration,” added Monahan. McConnell’s office has previously said that his freezes were due to lightheadedness and dehydration.

McConnell, who has served for 16 years as the GOP leader, the longest of any Senate leader in history, has repeatedly made clear he’s staying in his job until the end of next year when the 118th Congress ends – something his confidantes say hasn’t changed even after his recent health scares.

Lathum 08-31-2023 04:04 PM

Dude is legit gonna die in the chamber...

Edward64 08-31-2023 04:15 PM

I'm assume the Capitol Dr. and his Drs. are legit. You'd think they should recommend him sit down for any press conferences though.

JPhillips 08-31-2023 05:41 PM

There's no reason to think that overall McConnell isn't in control. Any calls for staff or family to step in are silly because it seems clear that McConnell doesn't want to resign or change his duties and until that changes he's going to stay where he's at.

NobodyHere 08-31-2023 08:49 PM

So why did Nikola Motors, which scammed investors out of billions of dollars recently, is now getting millions in dollars of government grants?

NIKOLA SECURES $41.9 MILLION GRANT, ACCELERATING ZERO-EMISSIONS INFRASTRUCTURE FOR HEAVY-DUTY HYDROGEN FUEL CELL ELECTRIC TRUCKS IN CALIFORNIA

Thanks Dark Brandon.

molson 09-06-2023 10:54 AM

The $10k student loan forgiveness shot down by the Supreme Court got a ton of attention but what's going on right now seems to be flying under the radar and is even more impactful for hundreds of thousands of borrowers.

The rules about who qualifies for loan forgiveness changed, to where the main qualifier seems to be months you owed (whether you paid or not), and what kind of payment plan you were on (though I'm still unclear on that one). Thousands and thousands of people are having six figures of debt wiped out overnight. A bunch of people I know got the "golden email" (as they're calling it on reddit), and then, a few weeks later, poof, all gone.

I still have about $40k left, haven't gotten a golden email, am unclear on the rules, but I think I'm not eligible because I've never been on a income-based or standard repayment plan. At least my interest rates are still low. I started over 6 figures of debt after law school and was able to get some public service-based grant forgiveness grants here and there.

Still though, after this recent flurry of new forgiveness, the Biden administration says the total will be 3.4 million borrowers got some kind of forgiveness, $116.6 billion in total forgiven.

This is all something that would a have a very mixed reaction if it was emphasized more by the administration as an accomplishment, a lot of people aren't a fan of it obviously, but, shit, Obama talked so much about student loans but Biden acted and changed a lot of peoples' lives.

Lathum 09-06-2023 11:42 AM

None of Bidens accomplishments are ever highlighted by the media because it doesn't generate clicks. Just the infrastructure bill alone should have him miles ahead of Trump who never passed anything even close.

The reality is every media mogul wants Trump to win. It is good for business because he provides a 24-7 news cycle. So instead of highlighting things like infrastructure, record job growth, CHIPS act, climate bills, et...they highlight things he can't control like inflation, high gas prices due to corporate greed, his age, etc...

Atocep 09-06-2023 11:57 AM

The praying Bremerton coach here that sued to get his job back and won at the Supreme Court resigned after 1 game.

It wasn't about the job. It was about being a right wing celebrity and landing speaking engagements that pay him far more than the coaching job does.

Brian Swartz 09-06-2023 02:16 PM

When was the last Presidential election in which something like the infrastructure bill was a major determining factor?

GrantDawg 09-06-2023 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Swartz (Post 3410906)
When was the last Presidential election in which something like the infrastructure bill was a major determining factor?

I would say Obama-care helped Obama in his re-election.

Brian Swartz 09-06-2023 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3410403)
So why did Nikola Motors, which scammed investors out of billions of dollars recently, is now getting millions in dollars of government grants?


The criteria for TCEP are:

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Freight System Factors – Throughput, Velocity, and Reliability;
Transportation System Factors – Safety, Congestion Reduction/Mitigation, Key Transportation Bottleneck Relief, Multi-Modal Strategy, Interregional Benefits, and Advanced Technology;
Community Impact Factors – Air Quality Impact, Community Impact Mitigation, and Economic/Jobs Growth;
The overall need, benefits, and cost of the project
Project Readiness – ability to complete the project in a timely manner;
Demonstration of the required 30% matching funds;
The leveraging and coordination of funds from multiple sources; and
Jointly nominated and/or jointly funded.

Nowhere in there is 'investors like them' or 'positive influence on public ethics' or 'being nice to their mother'. It appears the program is focused on the economic impact.

Brian Swartz 09-06-2023 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg
I would say Obama-care helped Obama in his re-election.


I would agree. I would also say that's not an analogous situation. Nothing in the infrastructure bill has/had anything approaching the same impact on any aspect of people's lives that's nearly as important to them.

GrantDawg 09-06-2023 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Swartz (Post 3410910)
I would agree. I would also say that's not an analogous situation. Nothing in the infrastructure bill has/had anything approaching the same impact on any aspect of people's lives that's nearly as important to them.

People don't care about jobs? Between this and CHIP's, that is a lot of jobs that have been brought home. I know this state is seeing a huge number of them.

Lathum 09-06-2023 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Swartz (Post 3410910)
I would agree. I would also say that's not an analogous situation. Nothing in the infrastructure bill has/had anything approaching the same impact on any aspect of people's lives that's nearly as important to them.


Right. Not many voters use roads and bridges.

Brian Swartz 09-06-2023 02:36 PM

The total number of jobs created/saved by those programs combined is estimated, at the high end, to be nearly a million a year. That's perhaps a hair over one half of a percent of US employment. How is that comparable to health care, which has been and continues to be a topic of tense debate for decades and which is an issue of major concern for a significant numer of people? Then you factor in inflation, which impacts everyone and highly impacts generally the same people who are highly impacted by rising health care costs.

The impact of inflation alone dwarfs the impact of those programs by orders of magnitude. I'm not saying that's a fair assessment of Biden's job performance. I'm saying it's a political reality.

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Originally Posted by Lathum
Right. Not many voters use roads and bridges.


Of course they do. That's not the point. Virtually no voters for President vote for the candidate who will do the best job on roads and bridges though. Whether they should or not is beside the point. Taxes, health care as mentioned, Social Security, scandals, abortion/gay marriage/etc., general economic conditions, other culture war stuff, foreign policy at certain times ... these drive narratives and debate. Infrastructure does not, and the last time it even arguably did is probably Eisenhower.

Lathum 09-06-2023 02:39 PM

Which was my exact point. Media focuses on the negatives Biden can't control instead of the positives he made happen.

Brian Swartz 09-06-2023 02:44 PM

I was more responding to GrantDawg, but I would say that's not a 'media' thing but a 'voter' thing. It's not the media's job to laud Biden's accomplishments. Voters and other media consumers could focus on those issues, and the media would follow suit. But they don't.

Edit to add: Many, Presidents have been elected for positives they don't control, and not elected for negatives they don't. That's just ... the nature of a mostly democratic system.

GrantDawg 09-06-2023 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Swartz (Post 3410913)
The total number of jobs created/saved by those programs combined is estimated, at the high end, to be nearly a million a year. That's perhaps a hair over one half of a percent of US employment. How is that comparable to health care, which has been and continues to be a topic of tense debate for decades and which is an issue of major concern for a significant numer of people? Then you factor in inflation, which impacts everyone and highly impacts generally the same people who are highly impacted by rising health care costs.

The impact of inflation alone dwarfs the impact of those programs by orders of magnitude. I'm not saying that's a fair assessment of Biden's job performance. I'm saying it's a political reality.

I see this many times in assessing what voters actually look at things. Jobs good. Inflation bad. They will blame him for inflation, but give him credit for the jobs. Just like they will ignore the fact inflation is a global problem and we have actually had it better than most of the world, they won't recognize that it ia minor up tick in the number of jobs because they see the huge projects and big factories being built around them.
Most people don't read the news or think deeply about these things. The may at best read headlines, at least unless the article is about Joe Jonas' divorce. But they do see big factories being built, large bridges going up, and road improvements. What they see versus what they hear. What they feel versus what the reason.

Brian Swartz 09-06-2023 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg
Just like they will ignore the fact inflation is a global problem and we have actually had it better than most of the world, they won't recognize that it ia minor up tick in the number of jobs because they see the huge projects and big factories being built around them.


This is probably true in areas where those things are concentrated, but that's not most places. You can't have factories and bridges going up everywhere with the number of jobs being discussed (and a lot of the jobs aren't even of that type). I can't tell you a single thing that's happened anywhere near me as a result of those programs. That doesn't mean it isn't happening in some places, I know it is. It does mean that this visceral, visual/experiential impact is not the one most people will have.

I can't find anything indicating a better than break-even assessment on Biden even when the jobs issue is isolated and it's not about the broader economy (where it's sharply negative).


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