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RainMaker 05-17-2017 09:21 PM

This borders on treason.

Focus turns to Michael Flynn's work for Turkey, Russia | McClatchy Washington Bureau

Thomkal 05-17-2017 09:47 PM

wow looks like Cummings letter to Pence in November pretty much seals the deal against Pence. Kinda feel sorry for Mueller, he's got a lot of headaches in his future. I expected there would be some issues with a mostly inexperienced Trump team on the world stage, but I did not expect them to get so deep and serious so quickly.

SirFozzie 05-18-2017 12:41 AM

Wow. Just..

Report: Flynn, paid to lobby for Turkey, blocked U.S. military move they opposed - Chicago Tribune

Days before President Donald Trump took office, incoming National Security Adviser Michael Flynn blocked a military plan against the Islamic State group that was opposed by Turkey, a country he had been paid more than $500,000 to advocate for, the McClatchy news service reported.

According to the report, Flynn declined a request from the Obama administration to approve an operation in the IS stronghold of Raqqa, effectively delaying the military operation. His reasoning wasn't reported, but Turkey has long opposed U.S. military operations in cooperation with Kurdish forces.

At the time, Flynn had not yet registered as a foreign agent and disclosed that he had been paid to lobby on behalf of the Turkish government. Weeks after his firing, Flynn retroactively registered with the Justice Department.

bhlloy 05-18-2017 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3160798)


Borders on?

Logan 05-18-2017 07:41 AM


A top Democrat was holding onto this letter since November, through the initial Flynn controversy, through his firing, through the fallout, through the whole immunity discussion, and it comes out now as yet another bombshell in a series of them against the administration in the past week.

This is being very well-orchestrated and I like it.

AlexB 05-18-2017 07:58 AM

http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/s...69927644340224

"With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign and the Obama Administration, there was never a special councel appointed"

Is this a tacit admission that he has himself carried out illegal acts here???

Thomkal 05-18-2017 08:14 AM

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago




This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!


Yes when you are the biggest "witch" of politics in American history...


And Roger Ailes has died.

Easy Mac 05-18-2017 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3160844)
And Roger Ailes has died.


I have many in poor taste thoughts about this.

kingfc22 05-18-2017 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexB (Post 3160841)
http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/s...69927644340224

"With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign and the Obama Administration, there was never a special councel appointed"

Is this a tacit admission that he has himself carried out illegal acts here???


Understanding how his thought process work (2-year-old logic reasoning), i'd say yes but doubt that holds water legally.

albionmoonlight 05-18-2017 08:50 AM



albionmoonlight 05-18-2017 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB (Post 3160841)
http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/s...69927644340224

"With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign and the Obama Administration, there was never a special councel appointed"

Is this a tacit admission that he has himself carried out illegal acts here???


No. He gets the most traction when he attacks Clintons and Obama. I think he's (smartly) taking every opportunity to bring them up.

Thomkal 05-18-2017 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Mac (Post 3160845)
I have many in poor taste thoughts about this.


me too, but even in the media there are many who are mourning his loss. So for those that are, I will keep those thoughts to myself

Toddzilla 05-18-2017 09:45 AM

He'll never get impeached because Repubicans always insist on carrying a baby to full term.

JPhillips 05-18-2017 09:45 AM

Pence has apparently formed his own campaign committee, a first for a VP candidate. This will allow him to solicit donations from his own donor list.

Toddzilla 05-18-2017 09:47 AM


Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3160798)

It's worse...Flynn himself told the administration that he was under an active investigation for the same and they hired him anyway. Both the WH counsel and VP were in that meeting, so they knew without any ambiguity.

Thomkal 05-18-2017 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toddzilla (Post 3160862)
He'll never get impeached because Repubicans always insist on carrying a baby to full term.



oof nice one

Easy Mac 05-18-2017 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toddzilla (Post 3160864)
It's worse...Flynn himself told the administration that he was under an active investigation for the same and they hired him anyway. Both the WH counsel and VP were in that meeting, so they knew without any ambiguity.


Yeah, but then Obama told him not to do it, so he had to do it.

Ben E Lou 05-18-2017 10:19 AM



Logan 05-18-2017 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3160869)



Smart move. Going to jail for obstruction of justice is better than being hanged for treason.

Easy Mac 05-18-2017 10:41 AM

But I thought his lawyer said he couldn't wait to testify?

SirFozzie 05-18-2017 10:50 AM

That was Comey I think. Flynn wants immunity. Sad thing though while he can put this off until the heat is off in the Senate, I bet you the special prosecuter is going... "hmm.. gimme some of that"

digamma 05-18-2017 12:24 PM

Flynn lawyer said he had a story to tell.

Ben E Lou 05-18-2017 12:29 PM



Ben E Lou 05-18-2017 01:10 PM

..and now reports that Burr has retracted his statement.

JPhillips 05-18-2017 02:27 PM

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President Donald Trump has canceled a planned visit and speech at the ancient mountain fortress of Masada in Israel after authorities told him that he could not land his helicopter on top of the UNESCO-listed site.

Unlike former presidents who have made the trip, such as George W. Bush and Bill Clinton, Trump declined to land the helicopter at a base of the historic site and then take the cable car up, preferring to cancel the visit altogether.

lol

Easy Mac 05-18-2017 02:30 PM

Do you realize how taxing it is to take public transportation?

mckerney 05-18-2017 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3160897)
lol


Didn't want to take the cable car or scared he might have to climb some stairs?

SirFozzie 05-18-2017 02:54 PM

And now we have Trump telling aides that once all this nonsense about an investigation is over, he wants to bring Flynn back into the White House to make up for the great wrongs done to him.

I can't even...

Easy Mac 05-18-2017 02:55 PM

yes you can

miami_fan 05-18-2017 03:28 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/18/politi...ner/index.html

SirFozzie 05-18-2017 03:39 PM

NO!

NO!

NEXT QUESTION!

Thomkal 05-18-2017 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 3160903)


wow he looks like he's 90 in that pic

Thomkal 05-18-2017 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 3160900)
And now we have Trump telling aides that once all this nonsense about an investigation is over, he wants to bring Flynn back into the White House to make up for the great wrongs done to him.

I can't even...


Uh wow

mckerney 05-18-2017 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 3160903)


Night Trap is rereleasing soon so I suppose it's his time again.

SirFozzie 05-18-2017 05:21 PM

They may have to redo the AHCA vote in the House, because the MacArthur amendment would wipe out any deficit reduction, making it a 60 vote threshold in the senate. It hasn't been sent to the Senate yet because once it gets there, fixes cannot change the threshold.

House May Be Forced to Vote Again on GOP's Obamacare Repeal Bill - Bloomberg

mckerney 05-18-2017 07:54 PM

Trump Team Planning Possible Retaliation for Classified Leak Allegations | Foreign Policy
White House officials concoct “ludicrous” revenge plan targeting former Obama administration.

Quote:

President Donald Trump’s inner circle is war-gaming how best to respond to the Washington Post’s bombshell report that he shared classified intelligence with the Russians about an Islamic State plot, sensitive information reportedly passed to the United States by Israel.

One option under consideration? Attack former President Barack Obama and his administration over their handling of sensitive data, in particular through one information-sharing program regarding cybersecurity threats.

According to a source with knowledge of a White House meeting that took place Wednesday morning, Trump’s team is considering launching an investigation into a Department of Homeland Security program that shares information on cyberattacks in an effort to coordinate globally on countering digital threats, insinuating that it inappropriately opened up streams of sensitive data to Russia and other nonallies. Another option under consideration is placing a story in the media about the program, similarly accusing it of sharing sensitive information.

The White House told Foreign Policy that it was not aware of any such meeting or discussions with Russia to participate in that information-sharing program.

The program in question, known as the Automated Indicator Sharing capability, allows companies to provide information about potential cyberattackers, like IP addresses and emails, to the U.S. government and international partners. The Department of Homeland Security is working on expanding the program to sharing “characteristics of cyberattacks” to help “identify and block adversary methods that we’ve never seen before,” wrote Scott McConnell, a department spokesman, in an email to FP.

The administration’s approach in this instance is a “bag of crazy cats,” the source with knowledge of the meeting said.

JPhillips 05-18-2017 08:58 PM

Nobody cares about the people that aren't President.

Trump will never understand that.

NobodyHere 05-18-2017 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3160928)
Nobody cares about the people that aren't President.

Trump will never understand that.


Eh, I don't know about that. His base will take any opportunity to blame Obama for something, real or imagined.

JPhillips 05-18-2017 09:59 PM

He's polling 40% or less. His base isn't enough.

PilotMan 05-18-2017 10:33 PM

Here's the viewpoint on all of this from KY-land:

Quote:

Trump is setting a trap that will investigate both parties and especially Hillary and her dealings with the Russians. The guy is a genius. Sessions recused himself from the Trump case, so Mueller can do all the data collection. Sessions will then open the Hillary case and expose all her "pay to play" schemes with the Russians and others, based on data Mueller collects. The dumbass liberal media is falling for it and enabling Trump to finally put Hillary in jail. Well played, 'Duckie', well played. Don't you love it when a plan comes together. Remember, you heard it hear first!

mckerney 05-18-2017 10:40 PM

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Remember, you heard it hear first

Well, I'm convinced.

RainMaker 05-19-2017 01:16 AM

Can't figure out why Kentucky is where it is.

SirFozzie 05-19-2017 01:27 AM

It seems like it's got to the point where they know they can't convince the President his plans are stupid, so they leak them to the press to show Trump it's a bad/stupid idea.

thesloppy 05-19-2017 01:30 AM

I love how dude thinks that justice is somehow first come, first served and that putting Hillary in jail would apparently let everybody else walk. Either that or he thinks getting impeached in order to put Hillary in jail is Trump's endgame.

Julio Riddols 05-19-2017 03:29 AM

It saddens me just how many people fall into that "You heard it hear first!" category. This nation has an absurd number of imbeciles poisoning the well.

Easy Mac 05-19-2017 06:54 AM

NY Times - In Video, Erdogan Watches as His Guards Clash With Protesters

How is this not getting more press and how has it not even received any response from Trump? Can you imagine the outrage if this happened on Obama's watch, yet there's literally no mention of this near Fox's front page.

Neon_Chaos 05-19-2017 07:31 AM

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles...otesters-in-dc

Thomkal 05-19-2017 10:34 AM

Lock him up?

Attention Required! | Cloudflare

(anthony weiner admits to sexting a minor)

Easy Mac 05-19-2017 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3160968)
Lock him up?

Attention Required! | Cloudflare

(anthony weiner admits to sexting a minor)


If he had been locked up before, we wouldn't be in this mess.

Thomkal 05-19-2017 10:47 AM

Very True


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