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JonInMiddleGA 08-07-2009 01:16 AM

Ethier's third homer against the Braves in the past week, this time a 3 run shot giving the Dodgers a 5-4 walkoff win.

SackAttack 08-07-2009 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 2090287)
Ethier's third homer against the Braves in the past week, this time a 3 run shot giving the Dodgers a 5-4 walkoff win.


Ethier digs that Atlanta pitching. You guys need to go on a run and win that division away from Philly.

JonInMiddleGA 08-07-2009 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack (Post 2090290)
You guys need to go on a run and win that division away from Philly.


There's a better chance of pigs flying out of my ass than there is of that happening.

SackAttack 08-07-2009 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 2090297)
There's a better chance of pigs flying out of my ass than there is of that happening.


So are you promising to shit winged bacon if the Braves win the East?

lungs 08-07-2009 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 2090143)
In one form or another, retaliation has been around baseball longer than most of our posters have been alive. It's a far more standing part of the game than whining about it, which seems to be a relatively new phenomenon.

ON BASEBALL; Retaliation Was Once the Rule - New York Times


Just because something has been done forever doesn't mean it isn't fucking stupid.

Logan 08-07-2009 10:10 AM

God this link from Simmons, agree with him that it's a really fun read:

25 things you didn't know about baseball - MLB - Yahoo! Sports

BishopMVP 08-07-2009 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by henry296 (Post 2090228)
When will Wakefield be back for the Red Sox, that could be the end of Smoltz.

Wakefield had a setback, probably out until around September 1. Bowden is the likely candidate to replace Smoltz as he's pretty much lined up with Smoltz. Tazawa is also in AAA, but he's still learning things like how to pitch from a windup.

On the plus side, that was by far the worst pitching matchup of the series and Joba looks pretty bad.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Mac (Post 2090225)
Yeah Pedroia, you're down 13-4 and the pitcher meant to hit you. I hate the Yanks, but the Sox and their fans are such douches

I love how Sox fans are now responsible for the actions of players on the field. (And ftr, I don't blame Pedroia for being mad considering the previous pitch went over his head. It's not like he charged the mound or -god forbid- the Sox retaliated in the next inning.)

molson 08-07-2009 03:48 PM

Smoltz has been DFA'd. Now perhaps he'll kick ass somewhere in the NL, like Lugo.

Not sure exactly how much this failed experiment cost the Sox - about $8 million?

DeToxRox 08-07-2009 03:53 PM

Jason Giambi was released also and someone claimed Alex Rios off Waivers. I wonder if a trade gets worked out for Toronto which would be a god send for them.

RomaGoth 08-07-2009 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 2090641)
Smoltz has been DFA'd. Now perhaps he'll kick ass somewhere in the NL, like Lugo.

Not sure exactly how much this failed experiment cost the Sox - about $8 million?


$5.5 million, actually. At 42, I would think his playing days are pretty much at an end.

molson 08-07-2009 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth (Post 2090644)
$5.5 million, actually. At 42, I would think his playing days are pretty much at an end.


That was his base salary, but he also got incentives for every day he was on the roster. After looking it up, it looks like $125,000 for the first day, $35,000 every day after that, and then another $500k if he made it to the end of the season. So that's about $1.5 million plus the $5.5 base. It makes sense why they pulled the plug and weren't willing to let him hang around the bullpen.

RomaGoth 08-07-2009 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 2090647)
That was his base salary, but he also got incentives for every day he was on the roster. After looking it up, it looks like $125,000 for the first day, $35,000 every day after that, and then another $500k if he made it to the end of the season. So that's about $1.5 million plus the $5.5 base. It makes sense why they pulled the plug and weren't willing to let him hang around the bullpen.


Aah, didn't see the rest of it. Yeah, can see why they said goodbye to him.

Dr. Sak 08-07-2009 04:24 PM

Tonight before the Marlins game in Philadelphia, the Phillies will induct Harry Kalas onto the Phillies Wall of Fame.

Kalas to be inducted into Wall of Fame | phillies.com: News

BishopMVP 08-07-2009 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 2090643)
someone claimed Alex Rios off Waivers. I wonder if a trade gets worked out for Toronto which would be a god send for them.

That (any) team would be retarded to offer anything in a trade. He's still a decent player, but Toronto has to just let him go to be out from that contract (he is set to earn salaries of $9.7 million in 2010, $12 million in 2011, $12 million in 2012, $12.5 million in 2013, and $12.5 million in 2014). Shocking that any team even did that (watch it be the Red Sox) - absolute gift for the Blue Jays.

Remember 2 offseasons ago when SF was considering trading Lincecum or Matt Cain for Rios? Thank god that didn't happen.

stevew 08-07-2009 04:31 PM

I can't believe someone claimed Rios. Seriously a wtf moment.

Probably the Mets, cause they "like the amount of games he plays."

Young Drachma 08-07-2009 04:37 PM

Peace out, Rios. Hope JP doesn't manage to flub this one up...(who am I kidding, though?)

RomaGoth 08-07-2009 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BishopMVP (Post 2090653)
That (any) team would be retarded to offer anything in a trade. He's still a decent player, but Toronto has to just let him go to be out from that contract (he is set to earn salaries of $9.7 million in 2010, $12 million in 2011, $12 million in 2012, $12.5 million in 2013, and $12.5 million in 2014). Shocking that any team even did that (watch it be the Red Sox) - absolute gift for the Blue Jays.

Remember 2 offseasons ago when SF was considering trading Lincecum or Matt Cain for Rios? Thank god that didn't happen.


So does the team who picks him up off waivers assume the full salary? Not sure how this works even before the trade deadline.

Travis 08-07-2009 04:47 PM

Disappointing about Rios. The guy has all the physical tools and I really thought if anybody could get him going at the plate it would be Cito and his staff. Here's hoping the switch flips for him in the next couple years and he figures out how to fully utilize the talent at his disposal. Ah the days when he looked like he'd be the perfect fit in the 3 spot to compliment Wells in the cleanup spot.

sigh.

MikeVic 08-07-2009 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP (Post 2090653)
Remember 2 offseasons ago when SF was considering trading Lincecum or Matt Cain for Rios? Thank god that didn't happen.


Yes. :( I was hoping for Lincecum!!

Danny 08-07-2009 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis (Post 2090667)
Ah the days when he looked like he'd be the perfect fit in the 3 spot to compliment Wells in the cleanup spot.
sigh.


At least he's still an ok fit in the 6th spot to compliment Wells in the 7th spot.

dawgfan 08-07-2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth (Post 2090665)
So does the team who picks him up off waivers assume the full salary?

Yes.

BishopMVP 08-07-2009 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RomaGoth (Post 2090665)
So does the team who picks him up off waivers assume the full salary? Not sure how this works even before the trade deadline.

Full salary yes. In August there is "revocable" waivers where a team can trade with the (lowest ranked) claiming team, pull the player back or just allow him to go (almost never happens). If a player makes it through unclaimed they can then be traded to any team. If the player is claimed the first time and pulled back the team can try and stick him through again (on "irrevocable" waivers), but anyone claimed there automatically goes to the new team. So as long as Toronto isn't dumb, the new team will get Rios and his entire contract on Tuesday.

Good pitchers duel in Boston, aided by the RS being 3 for last 39 RISP and hacking all night and letting Burnett stay in thru 7 2/3 despite walking 6. David Ortiz also 0 for his last 18. We've already DFA'd one baseball legend today....

DaddyTorgo 08-07-2009 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP (Post 2090759)
Full salary yes. In August there is "revocable" waivers where a team can trade with the (lowest ranked) claiming team, pull the player back or just allow him to go (almost never happens). If a player makes it through unclaimed they can then be traded to any team. If the player is claimed the first time and pulled back the team can try and stick him through again (on "irrevocable" waivers), but anyone claimed there automatically goes to the new team. So as long as Toronto isn't dumb, the new team will get Rios and his entire contract on Tuesday.

Good pitchers duel in Boston, aided by the RS being 3 for last 39 RISP and hacking all night and letting Burnett stay in thru 7 2/3 despite walking 6. David Ortiz also 0 for his last 18. We've already DFA'd one baseball legend today....


1 for his last 19

BishopMVP 08-07-2009 09:03 PM

Reverse jinx works and Ortiz singles! Then JD Drew lines out. Bottom 9.

Bad-example 08-07-2009 09:10 PM

Pulled this from USAToday regarding Monday's Giants-Dodgers game:

As a bonus, Dave Dravecky will be on hand Monday for the 20-year anniversary of his famed comeback game. He overcame cancer and beat the Reds 4-3 on Aug. 10, 1989. Then he won his next start, but it ended badly. He broke his arm and eventually had to have it amputated.

I was at that comeback game and it was amazing. Took a friend to his first baseball game that day. People were jumping out of their seats and cheering every strike Dravecky threw. Pete Rose got himself thrown out. I must say, it was a very good day.

Swaggs 08-07-2009 09:43 PM

As more and more teams deny claiming Rios, I have a sinking feeling about the Pirates claiming him. It would make no sense whatsoever, but neither did the Matt Morris trade.

samifan24 08-07-2009 10:20 PM

I can't believe a team claimed Alex Rios and his contract.

BishopMVP 08-07-2009 10:21 PM

Alfredo Aceves isn't this good.

BishopMVP 08-07-2009 10:32 PM

Yankees fans ooohing and booing on a pitch up and in when a HBP would have loaded the bases in a tied extra inning game. PING: Easy Mac.

larrymcg421 08-07-2009 10:41 PM

What kind of bullshit is this in the Braves game? Umpire calls a strike, and McCann throws out a runner at 2nd, but then the umpire changes it and says it's a walk.

MizzouRah 08-07-2009 10:45 PM

For some reason, I love that Madonna song, "Holiday" ;)

ThunderingHERD 08-07-2009 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 2090803)
What kind of bullshit is this in the Braves game? Umpire calls a strike, and McCann throws out a runner at 2nd, but then the umpire changes it and says it's a walk.


I turned the game off in frustration a few minutes ago and I still have no idea what went on there or what possible justification there could be for changing the call.

stevew 08-07-2009 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs (Post 2090772)
As more and more teams deny claiming Rios, I have a sinking feeling about the Pirates claiming him. It would make no sense whatsoever, but neither did the Matt Morris trade.

Different regime. I know we were linked to him. Too much money but he would work in left. Hopefully not us though.

JonInMiddleGA 08-07-2009 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 2090803)
What kind of bullshit is this in the Braves game? Umpire calls a strike, and McCann throws out a runner at 2nd, but then the umpire changes it and says it's a walk.


I'm gonna take a wild guess & figure that's when Bobby got tossed.
And according to the box score, Jurrjens was ejected after he had been relieved?

DeToxRox 08-07-2009 11:44 PM

Just to be that guy:

It's an A-Bomb for AAA-RODDD

SackAttack 08-07-2009 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderingHERD (Post 2090810)
I turned the game off in frustration a few minutes ago and I still have no idea what went on there or what possible justification there could be for changing the call.


I wasn't aware a balls-and-strikes call COULD be changed except on a swing appeal.

DeToxRox 08-07-2009 11:49 PM

As far as Rios goes, I wouldn't be shocked if the Tigs put a claim on. He'd be perfect here sans the contract, he is what we need. I wonder if they'd take Magglio back and some other stuff and they can just cut Maggs before he hits his options.

Dreaming on my part.

DeToxRox 08-07-2009 11:50 PM

Dola hat trick: MLBTR is saying it looks like it's the White Sox who claimed Rios. Interesting.

SackAttack 08-07-2009 11:51 PM

I'd be shocked if the Jays don't just pull a Padres and say "Great, you can have him!"

Jas_lov 08-07-2009 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 2090822)
Just to be that guy:

It's an A-Bomb for AAA-RODDD


What an incredible game that was. Big win in the series for the Yankees and they have a good advantage tomorrow with Sabathia vs. Bucholz the day after both bullpens were used up in a 15 inning game.

larrymcg421 08-07-2009 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 2090821)
I'm gonna take a wild guess & figure that's when Bobby got tossed.
And according to the box score, Jurrjens was ejected after he had been relieved?


Yep, that's when Bobby got tossed. If Jurrjens did get tossed (I missed it), then it was after he was relieved.

ISiddiqui 08-08-2009 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 2090822)
Just to be that guy:

It's an A-Bomb for AAA-RODDD


I hate it that A-Rod hits all his homers in non-clutch situations ;)

BishopMVP 08-08-2009 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jas_lov (Post 2090830)
What an incredible game that was. Big win in the series for the Yankees and they have a good advantage tomorrow with Sabathia vs. Bucholz the day after both bullpens were used up in a 15 inning game.

Ehhh... it was close but I don't know if I'd call it incredible. The Red Sox were just horribly inept on offense and the Yankees weren't much better. Other than JD Drew's catch there really weren't many good plays.

Bullpen wise I don't even know at this point either. I guess we send down Tazawa and recall Doubront maybe? or a Hunter Jones? There's absolutely no way they can pull Buchholz before 6 no matter how bad he's doing.

And I was planning to go to bed early for an 8am playoff soccer game tomorrow. Sooooo depressing haha.

BishopMVP 08-08-2009 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 2090834)
I hate it that A-Rod hits all his homers in non-clutch situations ;)

A-Rod can't hit in the clutch just like Tony Romo can't play in the playoffs. :)

larrymcg421 08-08-2009 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack (Post 2090825)
I wasn't aware a balls-and-strikes call COULD be changed except on a swing appeal.


It seems like the umpire was claiming that he said "ball", but accidentally motioned strike. If so, he made two mistakes, because that was clearly a strike.

ISiddiqui 08-08-2009 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP (Post 2090837)
A-Rod can't hit in the clutch just like Tony Romo can't play in the playoffs. :)


So are you claiming that Tony Romo can play in the playoffs ;).

Otherwise that statement makes no sense. :p

SackAttack 08-08-2009 12:22 AM

Sigh. I hope whoever that asshole is who ran onto the field on a 1-2 count, he "trips" and "falls" down a staircase or two.

Asshole.

stevew 08-08-2009 12:25 AM

Like I said a few weeks ago. Once the starters are gone, pitchers duels are over and you're just seeing inept offense.

larrymcg421 08-08-2009 12:41 AM

Braves managed a comeback and we're now in extra innings in LA.

cartman 08-08-2009 12:58 AM

Rangers beat the Angels 11-6 in Anaheim to pull within 3 1/2 of the division lead, and 1 behind the Red Sox in the wild card.


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