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Chief Rum 05-21-2013 02:12 PM


Vote as of post #348:

Melisandre (bulletsponge): Cersei (Narcizo)
Gregor Clegane (Julio Riddols): Stannis (Autumn), Robb Stark (Coffee Warlord)

Chief Rum 05-21-2013 02:19 PM

King Renly Baratheon (path12) has named Ser Loras Tyrell (murrayyyyy) the Warden of the South.

Coffee Warlord 05-21-2013 02:44 PM

Hey Chief, can you put the reference materials (lands, their values, etc) on page 1 for us?

Chief Rum 05-21-2013 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 2824734)
Hey Chief, can you put the reference materials (lands, their values, etc) on page 1 for us?


Sure... after lunch. :D

Narcizo 05-21-2013 02:54 PM

It is clear that the die is cast for today unless Lord Renly wishes to contest the voting. A deal has been reached between the Starks and Stannis - so be it. I have no doubt that Clegane will flee from justice and his few lands will be forfeited to my son. There are far worse results to the day's events. Clearly the North are willing or have been recompensed to allow Stannis free access to the powers of the sorceress. Nor do they fear a rogue, rampaging Mountain ravaging their lands. My Lord Stark's sense of justice is reminiscent of his father's. One only hopes that the end results are not the same.

path12 05-21-2013 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2824639)
If I were Renly, I would have some grave concerns about Melisandre. I'm not Renly, I can't tell him how he should feel.

But to suggest that Melisandre is some pastor giving a sermon twice on Sundays is a delusional viewpoint held only by Stannis. Not even his own bannermen will subscribe to that notion, although they liked are too cowed to speak their concerns publicly.


I certainly have concerns about Melisandre as I honor the Seven rather than this red God, and mean to keep an open mind about how to proceed.

However, I also have grave concerns about your Mountain, and feel it is appropriate for him to pay for his crimes.

VOTE SER GREGOR CLEGANE/JULIO RIDDOLS

Narcizo 05-21-2013 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2824519)
I suppose I'm a simple man. I find a sword more threatening than a priestess.


If that is true then you truly are a simple man. A sword, or a thousand swords, are a known quantity. Your priestess, most decidedly, is not.

If she is the simple holy woman you purport, then release her from your service - allow her to conduct her missionary work in our lands if she wishes. Do so and I will gladly move my vote to Clegane.

Coffee Warlord 05-21-2013 03:11 PM

So, to inquire, since I'm confused again. :)

When you send an emissary they are gone the remainder of the CURRENT day, have PM rights the entire day, lose PM rights at I'm assuming nightfall, and return at the start of the next?

Julio Riddols 05-21-2013 03:42 PM

You all have much more to fear from me as a rogue wandering these lands than you do as a protector of the throne. Do as you wish.

claphamsa 05-21-2013 03:55 PM

VOTE SER GREGOR CLEGANE/JULIO RIDDOLS

Autumn 05-21-2013 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols (Post 2824764)
You all have much more to fear from me as a rogue wandering these lands than you do as a protector of the throne. Do as you wish.


Well, since the throne is where we would all sit, I am not sure that is the case. You think highly of your King if you think that he will set you free to wander. I expect Lannister greed will say otherwise.

Narcizo 05-21-2013 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2824768)
Well, since the throne is where we would all sit, I am not sure that is the case. You think highly of your King if you think that he will set you free to wander.


The decision does not have to be left to my son. Ser Clegane can choose to quit his court as a fugitive of the realm.

Chief Rum 05-21-2013 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 2824757)
So, to inquire, since I'm confused again. :)

When you send an emissary they are gone the remainder of the CURRENT day, have PM rights the entire day, lose PM rights at I'm assuming nightfall, and return at the start of the next?


Emmissaries begin their work immediately upon being sent.

I expect most of the time, the PMing between the emmissary and the target King may begin immediately, so as a result, I require that the emmissary be immediately unavailable to read his own faction thread or PM his King (if he is a Hand). I don't want diplomacy to be slow simply for waiting for a deadline, so an emmissary's work starts right when he is sent.

That said, sometimes a King may not be around, or the emmissary isn't sent until later in the day. The emmissary has the rest of this day and the next day to return to camp. So an emmissary can decide at the first deadline after he is sent that he needs to continue dialogue with the target King, and stay on until he feels his business is done. At that point, he returns to his camp, and his normal duties resume. He would still be eligible to be used that day by his King.

If the emmissary's duties take him all the way through the next day as well, he will automatically "return to camp" at the second deadline, regardless of whether or not he completed his dialogue with the target King. He would not be eligible to be used by his King ins ome other way if he is away the entire day as an emmissary.

Hope that makes sense.

Coffee Warlord 05-21-2013 04:45 PM

Perfect.

To summarize:

Emissary is sent out immediately. Will be gone for one of two durations, to be determined by the emissary himself.
1 - Until the end of the CURRENT day.
2 - Until the end of the FOLLOWING day.

saldana 05-21-2013 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols (Post 2824710)
Suddenly when a man who is trained to murder does what he is trained for he becomes a threat to the realm? Don't be naive, Robb Stark. Stannis may be plying you with wealth and warriors, but do not let his mistress pull the veil over your eyes. He has no desire to be slowed in his desperate reach for the crown, and the witch will certainly make sure he keeps his focus. She has a lot to gain by this. I, on the other hand, have nothing to gain. Perhaps past crimes should not be of such great concern when the intent of all those who reach for the crown is to seize it for themselves. You can be a stepping stone or you can forge your own path without the old man's ravings clouding your mind.


perhaps the trepidation of others to allow your standing to persist is based upon the fact that you have no regard for the throne or the authority that stems from it.

you were arrested by Ser Beric Dondarrion and Thoros of Myr, were you not? and was not this arrest ordered under the law by the rightful Hand of King Robert?

but instead of respecting the King's Justice, you ran Dondarrion through...your loyalty is not to the realm or the throne.

vote gregor clegane/julio riddols

saldana 05-21-2013 04:48 PM

so for those of you who are able to comprehend the fine art of reading and writing (looks at Davos), you will have gleaned from the rules that certain "services" of an informational nature can be at your disposal...

JAG 05-21-2013 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 2824791)
Perfect.

To summarize:

Emissary is sent out immediately. Will be gone for one of two durations, to be determined by the emissary himself.
1 - Until the end of the CURRENT day.
2 - Until the end of the FOLLOWING day.


I think there's an in between case as well:

Quote:

The emmissary has the rest of this day and the next day to return to camp. So an emmissary can decide at the first deadline after he is sent that he needs to continue dialogue with the target King, and stay on until he feels his business is done. At that point, he returns to his camp, and his normal duties resume. He would still be eligible to be used that day by his King.

I think that means the emissary must stay until deadline of the first day they were sent. They can return as soon as the first deadline after the day they were sent. They can choose to stay into the second day and return before that day's deadline, and if they do so they are eligible to be sent on another mission that day. They can't stay beyond the second deadline after they have been sent and if they stay that long, they can't have been sent on another mission during that second day.

Coffee Warlord 05-21-2013 04:57 PM

Nice catch.

See, gentlemen? That's the sign of a quality Hand.

Coffee Warlord 05-21-2013 04:59 PM

And if anyone in the Lannister thread just noticed, I did in fact mis-click on your thread (noticed right away and didn't see anything). My apologies.

Darth Vilus 05-21-2013 05:29 PM

Vote Ser Gregor Clegane/Julio Riddols

Coffee Warlord 05-21-2013 05:44 PM

Headed home, communications will be limited for the next few hours. Don't burn the realm without me.

Julio Riddols 05-21-2013 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana (Post 2824792)
perhaps the trepidation of others to allow your standing to persist is based upon the fact that you have no regard for the throne or the authority that stems from it.

you were arrested by Ser Beric Dondarrion and Thoros of Myr, were you not? and was not this arrest ordered under the law by the rightful Hand of King Robert?

but instead of respecting the King's Justice, you ran Dondarrion through...your loyalty is not to the realm or the throne.

vote gregor clegane/julio riddols


And you are an authority on loyalty?

hoopsguy 05-21-2013 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 2824801)
Nice catch.

See, gentlemen? That's the sign of a quality Hand.


Roose/JAGs reading is how I interpreted it as well.
I quoted your post because it was shorter.

Chief Rum 05-21-2013 06:45 PM

A Stark emmissary has been seen arriving at the House Baratheon of Dragonstone camp.

murrayyyyy 05-21-2013 06:47 PM

I trust King Renly's judgment with his vote... I shall follow my King...

VOTE SER GREGOR CLEGANE/JULIO RIDDOLS

Julio Riddols 05-21-2013 06:52 PM

Fitting you would be behind your king, Loras.

Danny 05-21-2013 07:15 PM

Any updated vote count?

Julio Riddols 05-21-2013 07:18 PM

I think it is something in the realm or everyone voting for me.

hoopsguy 05-21-2013 07:20 PM

I will not unite with others against Ser Gregor. I'm sure this is no great surprise.

I do feel that every day we allow Melisandre to continue to walk among us represents a grave threat. One that is likely to be equally true for kings as it is for peasants. I'm surprised that the desire to strike at House Lannister has obscured the more immediate danger. There are ways to defend against a sword, against a poisoner, against a treasonous lover. But magic from afar - none of us can withstand this type of attack at this time.

VOTE MELISANDRE/BULLETSPONGE

Coffee Warlord 05-21-2013 07:20 PM

Holy shit! Five minutes have gone by without a PM!

Danny 05-21-2013 07:23 PM

I have gotten like 4 letters today from various people vying for my allegiance / cooperation. Who knew someone so low to the ground would be in such high demand.

Danny 05-21-2013 07:23 PM

I also assume I am not allowed to reply to those messages.

Coffee Warlord 05-21-2013 07:24 PM

You are. You get 1 free reply to PM's.

Coffee Warlord 05-21-2013 07:25 PM

Per PM. So someone uses their daily PM to you, you get to respond to it. If 5 people PM you, you get to respond to all 5.

Zinto 05-21-2013 07:32 PM

Clearly, I believe that Ser Gregor has done no worse then members of the other "kings" bannerman.

Melisandre has burned any non-belivers of her red god as a sacrifice. Who will avenge their deaths? Or are they not important enough?

I am sure you have all heard the rumors about Roose Bolton and what he has done to his small folk. Rape, flaying, torturing and murdering. Clearly the false kings have no concern over the lives of their small folks or they would look into their camps instead of trying to point out the flaws in the others. If justice must be served then Bolton and Milisandre must be dealt with also.

VOTE MELISANDRE/BULLETSPONGE

Danny 05-21-2013 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 2824884)
Per PM. So someone uses their daily PM to you, you get to respond to it. If 5 people PM you, you get to respond to all 5.


Damn, now I don't have a valid excuse for my rudeness of not writing back.

fontisian 05-21-2013 07:40 PM

VOTE SER GREGOR CLEGANE/JULIO RIDDOLS
I'll follow my liege.

claphamsa 05-21-2013 07:53 PM

Posted for my faction. But dell sucks fat sack. So I am comp less till the am. And I too old and cranky to surf on my iPad. So I won't around much...

Chief Rum 05-21-2013 08:00 PM

A Lannister banner has been spotted fluttering in the Baratheon of Storm's End camp. It seems King Renly has a visitor.

MrBug708 05-21-2013 08:04 PM

The Lannister's have long held too much power in this land

Vote The Mountain/Julio Riddols

But will Joffrey Lannister side with his Father's bannerman fellow bannerman and let deeds go unpunished.

Danny 05-21-2013 08:06 PM

I actually care not who is voted out between gregor and mellisandre.

DaddyTorgo 05-21-2013 08:20 PM

I have returned, and before the pleasures of the flesh in this city tempt the man that I was before I became a eunuch, I have deigned to grace you all with my presence for this period.

hoopsguy 05-21-2013 08:21 PM

I have a thought - why would Joffrey care a whit about the "enemy of the realm" status if he is the blackheart that you all think him to be? If you are determined to relentless attack him and his house, why would he yield one of his men to the will of the attacking houses? What will you do tomorrow, vote Clegor again? Do you expect a different result? Perhaps you should seek a ruler who is more pliable instead ...

Joffrey, I would carefully consider this with Clegor before he makes his own decision. There are obviously a number of ways this situation can play out, but only with careful cooperation and trust does Clegor remain in House Lannister come the morrow.

Coffee Warlord 05-21-2013 08:24 PM

Well, he could be a wolf, after all...

Coffee Warlord 05-21-2013 08:26 PM

Wait a minute, I'm a wolf!

hoopsguy 05-21-2013 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 2824930)
Well, he could be a wolf, after all...


You have a keen sense of irony. I would smile, were it in my nature.

Lathum 05-21-2013 08:28 PM

VOTE SER GREGOR CLEGANE/JULIO RIDDOLS

Danny 05-21-2013 08:33 PM

While I am no fan of Gregor's primal ways, I am still a Lannister and since neither Gregor's or Mellisandre's death will benefit my own goals, I will abstain from the vote.

hoopsguy 05-21-2013 09:08 PM

Upon further review, it does not appear there is time pressure for Gregor/Joffrey/Jamie to reach a consensus on the Enemy of the Realm decision. The deadline for that announcement is mid-day tomorrow, not tonight's deadline.

Julio Riddols 05-21-2013 09:10 PM

This is bollocks.


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