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highfiveoh 11-01-2007 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cougarfreak (Post 1584926)
Has anyone been able to run the game in windowed mode? I have tried, and it tells me I can't. My screen resolution is 1280X800.


You have to edit your shortcut target. Right click your shortcut or start menu icon and change the target to this: "C:\Program Files\Sports Interactive\Worldwide Soccer Manager 2008\wsm.exe" -small_screen

The part in bold being the key difference. Then you should be able to pick windowed mode in preferences. From there you can manually resize the window to you liking.

cougarfreak 11-01-2007 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by highfiveoh (Post 1584933)
You have to edit your shortcut target. Right click your shortcut or start menu icon and change the target to this: "C:\Program Files\Sports Interactive\Worldwide Soccer Manager 2008\wsm.exe" -small_screen

The part in bold being the key difference. Then you should be able to pick windowed mode in preferences. From there you can manually resize the window to you liking.


Edit...............nevermind, I wasn't putting the space after the wsm.exe" Thanks, I appreciate it.

cougarfreak 11-01-2007 09:22 PM

Is there such thing as a "superpack"? I remember those from my CM days.

lighthousekeeper 11-01-2007 10:54 PM

is anyone here using any 3rd party tools with '08? any recommendations?

dacman 11-02-2007 12:07 AM

Dost mine eyes deceive me? The WWSM beta patch build is newer than the FM one?!?!?!?

Young Drachma 11-02-2007 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1584891)
I think I'd like it to be part of the whole world. Will the PLA be part of European competitions? Is that sort of thing customizable?


It was last year. Canada replaces whatever European country whose structure is used to make the league and then, it enters European tournies and such. Always a nice plus.

Young Drachma 11-02-2007 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by lighthousekeeper (Post 1584879)
For those planning to play with PLA, will you just run that PLA league, or will you select other active leagues such as England Premier, etc... ?


I did last year, so I imagine I'd do the same thing year too. I don't bother to play in those countries though when I have the PLA.

BYU 14 11-02-2007 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dacman (Post 1585006)
Dost mine eyes deceive me? The WWSM beta patch build is newer than the FM one?!?!?!?


No patch for the download version yet though :(

Izulde 11-02-2007 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by twothree (Post 1584795)
It is in a sticky thread with Beta patch in the title in the Football Manager General Discussion Forum. I would provide a link but their forums are unresponsive at the moment for me.

Edit: Here is the thread

http://community.sigames.com/eve/for...1/m/2622077453


Greatly appreciated, thank you! :)

Toddzilla 11-02-2007 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1584891)
I think I'd like it to be part of the whole world. Will the PLA be part of European competitions? Is that sort of thing customizable?

Oh yeah. I tried that last year and it worked great. I simply edited Canada to be in Europe and part of UK & Ireland. Well, Canada (the country I'll use to stage the PLA when I swap with Sweden to avoid MLS rules) was seeded in the European Championship Cup, but had no matches scheduled the first year, but the teams at the top of the PLA were correctly placed in the Champions League draw (as a play-in team), VASE, and EURO cups. Plus Canada was correctly seeded in the second year.

As mentioned earlier, I have a swap with Norway that works swell. I'm gonna try Sweden one more time and then I'll be done with the database editor and can finally get to playing.

DaddyTorgo 11-02-2007 08:18 AM

wow. after all that i didn't even make it into the regular season last night.

ended up playing Gin on Yahoo for hours.

Toddzilla 11-02-2007 10:17 AM

Sigh. Sweden happens to be one of those countries that you cannot swap. I spent way too much time fiddling around to figure that out. So, my options are to use Sweden with an .edt file and live with Swedish regens OR use Canada disguised as Norway with regens that work properly.

I'm choosing Norway, so I'm going to square the edges and make it look pretty and I'll be ready to play. When I'm done, I'll put a readme in the zip file with all the changes made to the default db.

I'm kinda sad Sweden didn't work out, but I'm happy there's light at the end of the tunnel finally.

Pumpy Tudors 11-02-2007 10:27 AM

Sooooo, is the beta patch for the download version up yet?

Big Fo 11-02-2007 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors (Post 1585138)
Sooooo, is the beta patch for the download version up yet?


Downloading it right now.

Neuqua 11-02-2007 02:01 PM

Just downloaded and printed out Marc's Tips and Hints and am going to read over it a few times in preparation for the real patch.

Haven't played the FM/CM series in a couple years so I am very much looking forward to diving back in.

Big Fo 11-02-2007 02:04 PM

Hmm, according to the change list the WWSM digital download patch might be more recent than the normal FM beta patch? On that change list printed out before the match engine stuff goes up to v648, on the change list I'm reading after patching it goes up to v651.

Toddzilla 11-02-2007 02:10 PM

PLA2008=Done.

hxxp://rapidshare.com/files/66994627/PLA_2008.zip

see readme.txt for info

now it's time to nap

dacman 11-02-2007 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Fo (Post 1585270)
Hmm, according to the change list the WWSM digital download patch might be more recent than the normal FM beta patch? On that change list printed out before the match engine stuff goes up to v648, on the change list I'm reading after patching it goes up to v651.


Yep! Beat ya to it -- http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...&postcount=355

The peeps on the SI boards would be going nuts if they knew -- board confidence fixes, captaincy fixes, and 2 more rounds of fixes to the match engine are in the WWSM beta patch.

DanGarion 11-02-2007 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GoDukes (Post 1584294)
Irvine, CA


Wish I could just go there and pick it up. That's like a 10-15 trip from my house!

DanGarion 11-02-2007 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua (Post 1585263)
Just downloaded and printed out Marc's Tips and Hints and am going to read over it a few times in preparation for the real patch.


Where exactly did you find that?

BigDPW 11-02-2007 03:58 PM

I am debating about downloading WWSM versus just getting it from Amazon... I have gone both routes before and don't really recall any negatives of the download...

Before I jump in an download am I forgetting something about why I would not want to do so?

- FM Genie Scout works with it right?

Neuqua 11-02-2007 03:59 PM

I just did a search here at FOFC and it came up.

Young Drachma 11-02-2007 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toddzilla (Post 1585273)
PLA2008=Done.

hxxp://rapidshare.com/files/66994627/PLA_2008.zip

see readme.txt for info

now it's time to nap


Good work, Todd.

DanGarion 11-02-2007 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua (Post 1585311)
I just did a search here at FOFC and it came up.


I think I found it on the SI site.

Called Football Manager 2008 FAQ - Includes hints and tips. Seems pretty useful.

Pumpy Tudors 11-02-2007 04:48 PM

The SI forums are a nightmare to navigate, but within 3 minutes of visiting there today, I discovered that people are applying the WWSM beta patch to the download version, and now the game is asking for the CD, so they can't play the game. Urp.

Young Drachma 11-02-2007 04:54 PM

Yeah I read that too and didn't install it, as a result.

sabotai 11-02-2007 05:17 PM

I installed the beta patch for the download version and haven't had any problems.

BigDPW 11-02-2007 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai (Post 1585332)
I installed the beta patch for the download version and haven't had any problems.


Can you provide a link for the patch you installed...

Big Fo 11-02-2007 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDPW (Post 1585339)
Can you provide a link for the patch you installed...


This link worked for me

lighthousekeeper 11-02-2007 07:03 PM

When trying to startup a new game using the PLA_2008, I get an "array out of bounds" error. I selected a bunch of playable leagues (ENG, ESP, ITA, MEX, SCO)

MikeVick7 11-02-2007 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai (Post 1585332)
I installed the beta patch for the download version and haven't had any problems.

+1

DanGarion 11-02-2007 09:25 PM

How the hell do you register a player if he's ineligible?

And does someone have access to an English version of the manual?

Toddzilla 11-02-2007 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lighthousekeeper (Post 1585352)
When trying to startup a new game using the PLA_2008, I get an "array out of bounds" error. I selected a bunch of playable leagues (ENG, ESP, ITA, MEX, SCO)

Strange...I fired that bad boy up this afternoon and haven't had an issue at all.

At what precise point does the error come up?
What are all of the countries you're playing?
Can you get around it or is the error an infinite loop?

I'll take a look into it...sorry mate.

sabotai 11-02-2007 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo (Post 1585349)


That's the one I used as well.

Neuqua 11-02-2007 09:46 PM

8 pages in... So when do the actual impressions start?

:)

WSUCougar 11-02-2007 09:51 PM

Heh...no doubt.

lighthousekeeper 11-02-2007 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toddzilla (Post 1585377)
Strange...I fired that bad boy up this afternoon and haven't had an issue at all.

At what precise point does the error come up?
What are all of the countries you're playing?
Can you get around it or is the error an infinite loop?

I'll take a look into it...sorry mate.


I was able to click past the error and haven't seen any negative repurcussions since. *shrug*

Toddzilla 11-02-2007 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lighthousekeeper (Post 1585386)
I was able to click past the error and haven't seen any negative repurcussions since. *shrug*

SWEET!

In my experience, this typically happens when the game is trying to seed a cup competition and one of the teams has a bad value for it's "last division" or "last position." They can usually be clicked through, thank goodness.

If you notice a wonky result, let me know and I'll fix it. Thanks for pointing it out.

Young Drachma 11-02-2007 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toddzilla (Post 1585377)
Strange...I fired that bad boy up this afternoon and haven't had an issue at all.

At what precise point does the error come up?
What are all of the countries you're playing?
Can you get around it or is the error an infinite loop?

I'll take a look into it...sorry mate.


Same thing happened to me when I tried earlier today. I loaded England, France, Spain, Italy and the PLA.

Young Drachma 11-02-2007 11:05 PM

Oh ok. I read why it happened. Thx.

twothree 11-03-2007 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua (Post 1585384)
8 pages in... So when do the actual impressions start?

:)


Right now, all we have is the industry standard "beta-release this, earn some revenue, and fix it later" PC program. I believe most people know not to form an impression before the first official patch is released. ;)

Cringer 11-03-2007 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors (Post 1585326)
I discovered that people are applying the WWSM beta patch to the download version, and now the game is asking for the CD, so they can't play the game. Urp.


This is what I am getting. Seeing if trying it again works. I see that the link a few posts above here has the same name, but when I started downloading it it is 50 MB bigger. I thought the download yesterday being only 28mb was odd.

Cringer 11-03-2007 01:10 PM

Dola-

It's working now. Woohoo. Thank goodness.

path12 11-03-2007 04:59 PM

Just got WWSM from Amazon today. Patched, started unemployed and ended up at TOP-Oss in Dutch first division. Woo-hoo!

GoDukes 11-03-2007 11:52 PM

As far as graphics go, SI has really screwed the pooch.

Unable to edit the default skins attributes colors.

Championship level jerseys are worse than previous years.
Cannot, no matter what I do, get the templates off in the background.

I've had the game for a week, and still don't have it ready to play yet.

Big SI fan, but really bummed out by this.

lighthousekeeper 11-04-2007 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoDukes (Post 1585990)
As far as graphics go, SI has really screwed the pooch.

Unable to edit the default skins attributes colors.

Championship level jerseys are worse than previous years.
Cannot, no matter what I do, get the templates off in the background.

I've had the game for a week, and still don't have it ready to play yet.

Big SI fan, but really bummed out by this.


so you can't play the game because the graphics aren't editable enough?

*insert Maximum Futbol joke here*

lighthousekeeper 11-04-2007 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sabotai (Post 1585381)
That's the one I used as well.


Patch works well for digital download version. One nice tweak in the patch is the balancing of own-player evaluations. Before the patch, all players on my team were regarded by my assistance as "best player on the squad". Now there's more variability in evaluated talent level.

GoDukes 11-04-2007 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by lighthousekeeper (Post 1585994)
so you can't play the game because the graphics aren't editable enough?

*insert Maximum Futbol joke here*



No, I like to have my attributes colors a certain way, and dont want the game to look like crap on my screen.

I don't think it's too much to ask.

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2007 01:00 AM

NICE! My board just doubled my transfer budget!

Passacaglia 11-04-2007 05:53 AM

Amazon has said "Carrier notified to pick up package" since Thursday evening. Don't carriers pick up packages from there all the time?


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