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Ksyrup 07-12-2007 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1500022)
Conflicting information re: Supersim in different threads, but most people seem to say it is in the PS2 and Xbox versions. Here is the most detailed impressions I've seen of the PS2 version on OS (you need to register over there to view it):

http://forums.operationsports.com/vB...d.php?t=209792


Thanks. I saw you mention OS a few times earlier, but didn't know if it was worth registering for. I'll check it out.

CraigSca 07-12-2007 09:37 AM

It's kind of frustrating in some of those impression threads. People keep asking the same already answered questions and the ones that I find interesting seem to be ignored.

If I hear one more person ask about I-AA teams (no, they're not in NG) or about a particular teams a) playbook b) ratings for their top 5 players c) hair length, I'm going to scream.

Eaglesfan27 07-12-2007 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CraigSca (Post 1500044)
It's kind of frustrating in some of those impression threads. People keep asking the same already answered questions and the ones that I find interesting seem to be ignored.

If I hear one more person ask about I-AA teams (no, they're not in NG) or about a particular teams a) playbook b) ratings for their top 5 players c) hair length, I'm going to scream.


The reaction to your humorous questions in there was priceless. Some guys have no sense of irony or sarcasm. ;)

Kodos 07-12-2007 09:57 AM

Yep. I hate the ratings questions, and guys who complain about no clear visors. Get a life!!!

CraigSca 07-12-2007 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1500046)
The reaction to your humorous questions in there was priceless. Some guys have no sense of irony or sarcasm. ;)


Yeah, I was kind of surprised no one understood when I asked for BYU's top five players and their hair/sock lengths.

MizzouRah 07-12-2007 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1499965)
FWIW, the two guys who are confirmed to have the game on OS report a lower number of fumbles that is more realistic. One of them also says the game plays better than the demo and doesn't have the noticable pause between plays. I'm finally checking out the demo tonight. I can't wait to play the retail version on Tuesday.


Great news!

I can't wait either. Not sure if I want to get the necessary tools to get the real rosters or just start with fake names.

Ksyrup 07-12-2007 12:20 PM

For some reason, with college, I couldn't care less about real players. Maybe it's because they go away pretty quickly, or that 95% of the players on 115 teams I don't know anyway.

jbmagic 07-12-2007 02:15 PM

From Operation Sports.

First Impression thread who has the retail game already.

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Stats look pretty good to me:

No QB went over 4,000 yards. QB with most TD passes (Chad Henne) was 43 but he had 11 INTs. NO QBs had 2 or 3 INTs for an entire season. Every top QB had at least 7 INTs. QB ratings look much more realistic.

McFadden went over 2,000 yards rushing but next highest RB had 1,700 yards. There were some ridiculous ypc averages for the top RBs....like 8 ypc.

Top WR had 1600 yards and 16 TDs. YPC were much mroe realistic than last year. No 20 ypc WRs.

Top OL had 34 pancake blocks but I didn't play any of the games so I can't speak to whether the insane pancake blocks for user teams will show up or not.

One thing that bothered me was tackles. Maybe it was because they sim 5:00 quarters because the leading tackler in the country had 90 tackles.

Player with the most INTs had 9. Again INTs may go up when the user is playing.

Eaglesfan27 07-12-2007 05:22 PM

Many more impressions on OS as about a half dozen people have the game over there now. Most of them sound very good. A few of my favorites that have been mentioned by multiple people: Jump balls are much more realistic. Trick formations make good use of automotion. Also, bad CPU kickers are missing even intermediate kicks wide. The game is saving all of the plays to review at the end - at least on 5 minute quarters you can go back to any play in the game and review it from 8 different angles. Also, multiple people have confirmed the delay that was in the demo with the play calling screen is gone.

Eaglesfan27 07-12-2007 05:25 PM

Dola -

Forgot my favorite 2 impressions: The CPU will punt from the 35 if it is 4th and long and they have a weak FG kicker. Also, the CPU reportedly seems to be running a good hurry up offense when they are behind and time is running low with more passing towards the sidelines.

kingnebwsu 07-12-2007 05:45 PM

Hopefully the game turns out well...I hope IGN/Gamespot posts a review on Friday (even though they're slammed with E3...lucky timing for EA?)

I have Friday off so I'll see if anywhere is selling it early. EFan, are our College Hoops 2k7 days numbered? :)

WVUFAN 07-12-2007 06:05 PM

For what it's worth, I have the game (got it at a local Wal-Mart just before work), if anyone has questions. I won't be able to answer them until I get home (I'm at work right now).

Pumpy Tudors 07-12-2007 06:07 PM

I'm trying to convince myself not to go hunting for the game, but it's hard. I never find it early, but I just have fun going around town to search for it. It's pointless, though. The only places within 20 miles of me are Target, Wal-Mart, Sam's Club, EB/GameStop, Toys R Us, and Best Buy. You know EB and Best Buy aren't gonna budge. Target is a crapshoot. Sam's Club had the game out on the shelf early last year, but their register rejected the sale, so I assume that Wal-Mart's will do the same. The Toys R Us people around here are generally clueless about new video games, so that's my best hope, but they've told me in the past that they usually get their video game shipments on Mondays, so they don't even bother to look around if it's not a Monday or Tuesday.

Just for fun, I'll probably go searching anyway. Silly me. :)

Edit: Err, after reading WVUFAN's post, I guess I'm wrong about Wal-Mart. :D

WVUFAN 07-12-2007 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors (Post 1500386)
I'm trying to convince myself not to go hunting for the game, but it's hard. I never find it early, but I just have fun going around town to search for it. It's pointless, though. The only places within 20 miles of me are Target, Wal-Mart, Sam's Club, EB/GameStop, Toys R Us, and Best Buy. You know EB and Best Buy aren't gonna budge. Target is a crapshoot. Sam's Club had the game out on the shelf early last year, but their register rejected the sale, so I assume that Wal-Mart's will do the same. The Toys R Us people around here are generally clueless about new video games, so that's my best hope, but they've told me in the past that they usually get their video game shipments on Mondays, so they don't even bother to look around if it's not a Monday or Tuesday.

Just for fun, I'll probably go searching anyway. Silly me. :)

Edit: Err, after reading WVUFAN's post, I guess I'm wrong about Wal-Mart. :D


I have a friend who works there, and it didn't have a problem going through, although I'm not sure if he did something special to make it work.

Eaglesfan27 07-12-2007 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kingnebwsu (Post 1500375)
Hopefully the game turns out well...I hope IGN/Gamespot posts a review on Friday (even though they're slammed with E3...lucky timing for EA?)

I have Friday off so I'll see if anywhere is selling it early. EFan, are our College Hoops 2k7 days numbered? :)


I'd still play College Hoops 2k7, but it would be much less if this game turns out as well as it sounds like it might. Unless there are major advancements in College Hoops 2k8, I'm going to skip it and just continue my 07 dynasty.

bignej 07-12-2007 06:55 PM

I just found NCAA 08 at a C&C games in Fremont Ohio for anyone who lives nearby.

Balldog 07-12-2007 07:15 PM

I'm back in Findlay and that's only about a 40 minute drive!

bignej 07-12-2007 07:19 PM

They said they close at 8. BTW, These guys were fully aware they are selling early and seemed surprised I only wanted 1 copy.

Eaglesfan27 07-12-2007 08:55 PM

Hilarious. I'm reading the NCAA impressions thread over at OS, and I see this post from jbmagic. It is word for word exactly the same post that I put in a questions thread in Madden's Community Day on their forum:

07-13-2007, 01:31 AM #662
jbmagic
Rookie

Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 159


Re: *OFFICIAL* NCAA Impressions/Questions Thread

Is there still too many DE's taken in the 1st round?

Will teams draft more intelligently and consider their own rosters (For example will a team with a young potential star QB still take a QB in the first round or two?)

jbmagic 07-12-2007 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1500454)
Hilarious. I'm reading the NCAA impressions thread over at OS, and I see this post from jbmagic. It is word for word exactly the same post that I put in a questions thread in Madden's Community Day on their forum:

07-13-2007, 01:31 AM #662
jbmagic
Rookie

Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 159


Re: *OFFICIAL* NCAA Impressions/Questions Thread

Is there still too many DE's taken in the 1st round?

Will teams draft more intelligently and consider their own rosters (For example will a team with a young potential star QB still take a QB in the first round or two?)



yep

I didn't see it get answer where you posted it at, so I posted that great question in the NCAA Impressions Forum.

CraigSca 07-12-2007 09:56 PM

Wait. I don't get it. What draft are we referring to in NCAA? Is that a new feature in 08? Do they also have the Grand Slam Challenge?

MizzouRah 07-12-2007 09:56 PM

The cut and paste master!

Emiliano 07-13-2007 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by WVUFAN (Post 1500384)
For what it's worth, I have the game (got it at a local Wal-Mart just before work), if anyone has questions. I won't be able to answer them until I get home (I'm at work right now).


Impressions? Come on, I know you're still up playing it... :D Which version do you have, PS3?

bignej 07-13-2007 05:41 AM

OK so after spending an hour putting in Ohio State's roster I fired up a game. (editing takes longer it seems). Here are a few impressions from my OSU-MICH game:

- Graphics are alot better and the games moves really smooth(as if that says anything)
- To see play art before the snap, you hold right trigger and flick the right stick up(sort of annoying)
- Plays will auto-motion receivers and backs before the snap
- I fumbled(and lost) the ball twice and threw 4 picks, I feel like I have to relearn how to play offensively.
- Running is fun but I hope the fumbles were a fluke, I don't want to have to remember to press the protect ball button everytime I run. Also I couldn't switch hands when running down the sideline.
- Chad Henne killed me, Maybe AA level was a little optimistic.
-No sacks from 10 yards away that I could tell(and I was sacked about 5 times)
- Only 1 pass interference was called all game and that was legit when I picked it off and ran it back.

One Play stood out in particular for me: Henne threw into the endzone and the reciever jumped up and had it at the peak. I hit sticked him low and the guy flipped(looked like I broke his neck). First time I actually jumped out of my seat for a video game hit in a long time. That was nice.

I played 1 dynasty game, againts FCS Midwest, and won 70-0. Best thing about that was I started simming when I was up 30-0 in the 2Q. The computer subbed in all of my backups without me telling it to(I was really worried about this)

bignej 07-13-2007 05:46 AM

To touch on the recruiting, u select 35 guys by searching or the old method to your target list. I'm sure it was the sheer # of recruits, but it seemed a little slow. I always got into a rythm in recruiting in older versions but this seemed like an awful lot of work. You can select Recruiting assistance, offer assistance, and visit assistance(i think that was the third). It alows you to create a prospect before preseason recruiting initially if thats your thing.

If anyone has specific Q's on gameplay please ask, I am going from memory and I was drinking heavily.

BYU 14 07-13-2007 08:21 AM

Anyone that got an early copy have a PS3 version?

MizzouRah 07-13-2007 11:33 AM

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To see play art before the snap, you hold right trigger and flick the right stick up(sort of annoying)


Nooooooo!!! I was hoping that wouldn't be in the final version.

Ironhead 07-13-2007 12:03 PM

I am going to go ahead and buy the the 360 for this game and then get All Pro 2k8 in a month or so.

Does anyone have any recommendations on where I should buy it? I do not plan on buying an extended warranty from the store so that doesn't have to play into it. Since I am going to be dropping over $450 for the 360 and NCAA is there a store that would bundle it with a free year of Xbox Live or something along those lines?

Thanks for any suggestions.

kingnebwsu 07-13-2007 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1500412)
I'd still play College Hoops 2k7, but it would be much less if this game turns out as well as it sounds like it might. Unless there are major advancements in College Hoops 2k8, I'm going to skip it and just continue my 07 dynasty.


I'm gonna play it pretty much just like that :)

MizzouRah 07-13-2007 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironhead (Post 1500894)
I am going to go ahead and buy the the 360 for this game and then get All Pro 2k8 in a month or so.

Does anyone have any recommendations on where I should buy it? I do not plan on buying an extended warranty from the store so that doesn't have to play into it. Since I am going to be dropping over $450 for the 360 and NCAA is there a store that would bundle it with a free year of Xbox Live or something along those lines?

Thanks for any suggestions.


I would try a local Gamestop or EB Games.

Logan 07-13-2007 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironhead (Post 1500894)
I am going to go ahead and buy the the 360 for this game and then get All Pro 2k8 in a month or so.

Does anyone have any recommendations on where I should buy it? I do not plan on buying an extended warranty from the store so that doesn't have to play into it. Since I am going to be dropping over $450 for the 360 and NCAA is there a store that would bundle it with a free year of Xbox Live or something along those lines?

Thanks for any suggestions.


Starting Sunday, Circuit City will be giving a free year of XBox Live with the purchase of any 360 system.

I'm in Marlboro...we can meet up at the CC in Freehold and buy the system at the same time :).

Eaglesfan27 07-13-2007 01:46 PM

The impressions on OS are insane. I'm not sure I've ever had such a high level of anticipation for a console football game.

rowech 07-13-2007 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1501043)
The impressions on OS are insane. I'm not sure I've ever had such a high level of anticipation for a console football game.


I've tried to find the links you're talking about but with no luck. Can you post a link?

Mizzou B-ball fan 07-13-2007 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rowech (Post 1501053)
I've tried to find the links you're talking about but with no luck. Can you post a link?


http://forums.operationsports.com/vBulletin/index.php

Eaglesfan27 07-13-2007 02:06 PM

It's almost a thousand post thread (in just a few days) and you need to be logged in to view it:

http://forums.operationsports.com/vB...211312&page=92


A few of my favorite tidbits from it that immediately come to mind:

- A guy was dominating with his HB (I forget which one) and was running well with him as well as throwing little screens to him. The computer started putting 8 and 9 men in the box in obvious running situations and started double teaming him when he was spread out wide.

- When the computer has a lead, it is actually running down the play clock earlier than ever.

- People are getting decent results on All American with default sliders! They are getting very good results with just a few minor slider tweaks The only one that is routinely being adjusted is interceptions are being turned way down (which is one of flaws that remains.) However, with interception slider at 15, people are saying it is much better.

- The computer is actually sticking with the run if it is working and has run 40-50 times for a few hundred yards against one guy.

- Simmed stats look great. One other guy posted and besides the one's jb copied, there were ones in which rushing QB stats looked good, passing stats looked great, and defensive stats looked very solid.

- Some of the stories about mid air collisions sound amazing. One guy was running down the sideline with his FB and accidently hit the hurdle button and was nailed by a DB who flipped him over, but the FB had the presence of mind to reach out with his hand and put the ball inside the pylon for the TD.

- Players are slipping in rain and snow and people say that fatigue really seems well done, particularly in inclimate conditions.

- The biggest common complaint is too many interceptions which appears to be fixable with sliders, alternate uniforms which I frankly don't care about, and the lack of class editing which I also don't care about as starting rosters don't need to be perfect for me.

Oh yeah, the fake punt run play actually worked for someone for a 1st down. That play never worked in the past.

- Also, the Florida playbook sounds like it is quite fun to run as well as a few of the other more imaginative teams. Among many other interesting plays there is a WR option pass play.

Logan 07-13-2007 02:13 PM

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and the lack of class editing which I also don't care about as starting rosters don't need to be perfect for me.

Not to nitpick, but this is something that has always bothered me. They know they get eligibility wrong, it's a foregone conclusion every year...why not just let us fix it? A couple years back I had to create an alternate Brian Leonard just so I could play with him for the right number of years.

Kodos 07-13-2007 02:13 PM

Man.... I can't wait for Tuesday...

rowech 07-13-2007 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1501061)
It's almost a thousand post thread (in just a few days) and you need to be logged in to view it:



Well, that explains why I wasn't seeing it.

Eaglesfan27 07-13-2007 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 1501071)
Man.... I can't wait for Tuesday...


Me neither. A few of the other things that I forgot to put in the other post but have been excited to read:

- With 6 minute quarters on AA, guys are ending up with 10-7, 14-7 type games and even a few 6-3 games in the snow (which most people don't like as the snow is overdone and makes it impossible to see the sidelines.)

- 3rd and long is hard to convert and long passing is really difficult. Even on short and intermediate passes, QB's with lower accuracy ratings are missing guys in all directions. Finally, QB's aren't perfect with their throws.

- On AA with mild slider tweaks, experienced players are getting beat by the CPU. One guy just had Colt Brennan complete almost 70% against him and shred his defense for over 300 yards.

Pumpy Tudors 07-13-2007 02:28 PM

Well, I'm definitely going to be hunting a little bit this weekend. I'm sure I'll strike out like I do every year, but I'm going to give it a shot. I've tried one Wal-Mart and one Toys R Us. No sight of the game at either place. I'm going to try another Wal-Mart tonight or tomorrow, and I'll probably end up checking out Target and FYE as well.

Ksyrup 07-13-2007 02:34 PM

Against my better judgment, I might stop at Target and Wal-Mart on the way home. I'd really like to get it now because the family doesn't come home until Monday. After that, we're going on vacation in a couple of weeks - I'll probably wait for my birthday in mid-August.

MizzouRah 07-13-2007 02:45 PM

Thanks EF for all the impressions!!

Tuesday can't come quick enough. :)

rowech 07-13-2007 02:46 PM

Too long for me to read through (threat at OS) not having read from the start....did anyone mention anything about the little glitches between calling plays, etc. Are they gone in the final game?

WVUFAN 07-13-2007 02:53 PM

There's no glitches between plays so far.

This game, at AA, is HARD. Good lord. I'm in the second year of a dynasty (I simmed first year stats), and Va Tech just spanked me(I'm WVU) 34-14. Completely stopped my offense.

Eaglesfan27 07-13-2007 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rowech (Post 1501104)
Too long for me to read through (threat at OS) not having read from the start....did anyone mention anything about the little glitches between calling plays, etc. Are they gone in the final game?


Several people have said it is gone. One person says he sees it. Another says it is there, but it is less noticable. Shrug.

Eaglesfan27 07-13-2007 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah (Post 1501103)
Thanks EF for all the impressions!!

Tuesday can't come quick enough. :)



I'm just summarizing what other people said. I can't wait to form some of my own impressions. I can't wait for my upcoming 3 day weekend next week :)

Kodos 07-13-2007 02:59 PM

Is Walmart where people have been finding it? I may have to swing by...

Eaglesfan27 07-13-2007 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 1501120)
Is Walmart where people have been finding it? I may have to swing by...



I've heard of several from Walmart, several from Circuit City, and the majority seem to be mom and pop stores. I'm actually contemplating going 15 miles out of my way after work to check out a mom and pop store... I'll probably just call them instead to see what they say.

Edit: Most people who are getting it from places other than mom and pop stores, seem to have a connection at the store.

Ironhead 07-13-2007 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 1500957)
Starting Sunday, Circuit City will be giving a free year of XBox Live with the purchase of any 360 system.

I'm in Marlboro...we can meet up at the CC in Freehold and buy the system at the same time :).


Sounds like a plan - I have a wedding to attend in Red Bank on Sunday evening but could do it in the morning. I am thinking about doing a little hunting for NCAA after work.

nilodor 07-13-2007 03:16 PM

Check out this article on 5w-g about rosters for the 360. Especially Fairdales comment at the end. Sounds like they will get something figured out but it'll be difficult.

http://www.5w-g.com/?p=233


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