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Ben E Lou 10-25-2005 04:04 PM
Well, we should all be getting our copies today. After all, Jonah Falcon got his. :rolleyes:

vex 10-25-2005 04:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkyDog
Well, we should all be getting our copies today. After all, Jonah Falcon got his. :rolleyes:

Yeah, his supporters aren't so...supportive.

vex 10-25-2005 04:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ISiddiqui
You do realize that sites like that exist for getting you to go out and buy a new video card, right? Too many people have 'passed' on the components only to get a 'fail' on the main video ram requirement.

I don't doubt it at all. But hey, they're outta luck if they think I'll get something like that anytime soon:)

Passacaglia 10-25-2005 05:18 PM
My computer can't even run that web site. That's a bad sign, right?

Coop 10-25-2005 05:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkyDog
Well, we should all be getting our copies today. After all, Jonah Falcon got his. :rolleyes:

Wow, what a dick!

ISiddiqui 10-25-2005 05:31 PM
Indeed... somethings are just wrong... that is one of them.

nilodor 10-25-2005 07:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Passacaglia
My computer can't even run that web site. That's a bad sign, right?

I'm in the same boat. I believe it's just the site's way at laughing at the quality of your computer. It should say, no chance buddy and have a link to download pong or something.

Celeval 10-25-2005 07:24 PM
I got a phone call from my preorder at the local GameStop, saying it'd be ready for picking tomorrow afternoon.

henry296 10-25-2005 07:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nilodor
I'm in the same boat. I believe it's just the site's way at laughing at the quality of your computer. It should say, no chance buddy and have a link to download pong or something.

I think the site is down. I also had problems connecting at all.

jbmagic 10-25-2005 07:42 PM
i surprise a lot of you are getting it right away without any first impression on how good the AI will be.

i going to wait and see first.

i probably pick it up at circuit city for 49.99 and you get a free $10 gift card.

But wont open it until i hear how good the AI is. i wil have up to 30 days for a refund.

Pumpy Tudors 10-25-2005 07:46 PM

jbmagic 10-25-2005 07:53 PM
Pumpy Tudors

they look great. any Waffles? :)

Draft Dodger 10-25-2005 08:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbmagic
i surprise a lot of you are getting it right away without any first impression on how good the AI will be.

i going to wait and see first.

i probably pick it up at circuit city for 49.99 and you get a free $10 gift card.

But wont open it until i hear how good the AI is. i wil have up to 30 days for a refund.

I agree 100%

vex 10-25-2005 08:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbmagic
i surprise a lot of you are getting it right away without any first impression on how good the AI will be.

i going to wait and see first.

i probably pick it up at circuit city for 49.99 and you get a free $10 gift card.

But wont open it until i hear how good the AI is. i wil have up to 30 days for a refund.

BS, you'll open it within an hour;)

jbmagic 10-25-2005 08:29 PM
Today. the chat room is still going on still . Lots of people there talking Civ 4

The big special day has finally arrived!!! It happens only once every 5 or 6 years, and is definitely a day worth celebrating! Release of Civilization IV is not the only event for the day also -- today is also our forum's 5 year anniversary! It's a very wonderful co-incidence.

To celebrate both events, we invite you to join our Civ4 Release & Forum Anniversary Party starting today in our IRC Chat Room.

The IRC Chat Room can be accessed using the Java chat interface, or you can use an IRC client, such as mIRC, to view it. The IRC server is at irc.irc-chat.net and the channel is #civfanatics.


or java chat room if you dont have MIRC
http://www.civfanatics.com/chat/

jbmagic 10-25-2005 08:35 PM
we need all FOFC there in the chat room now, so you guys can ask the hard questions :)

Buccaneer 10-25-2005 08:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbmagic
we need all FOFC there in the chat room now, so you guys can ask the hard questions :)

Here's a hard question, "Is the AI any good?"

:)

jbmagic 10-25-2005 08:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buccaneer
Here's a hard question, "Is the AI any good?"

:)

according to people that have the game or betatest it are saying in the chat room tonight, the AI is very smart and challenging.

Pumpy Tudors 10-25-2005 08:44 PM
I don't intend to get the game anytime soon, but I hope the pancake stats aren't overblown.

Buccaneer 10-25-2005 08:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbmagic
according to people that have the game or betatest it are saying in the chat room tonight, the AI is very smart and challenging.

d00d, that's been said for about every game that has come out.

If you don't think my question was hard enough, how about "I want to know about the AI before I open the game but I have no idea what I am talking about?"

jbmagic 10-25-2005 08:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buccaneer
d00d, that's been said for about every game that has come out.

If you don't think my question was hard enough, how about "I want to know about the AI before I open the game but I have no idea what I am talking about?"


lol.. the AI suck on civ3 and civ3 conquest.

you make a good point. most are fanboys in the chatroom.

be interesting to see FOFC first impressions soon.

bronconick 10-25-2005 08:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vexroid
I don't doubt it at all. But hey, they're outta luck if they think I'll get something like that anytime soon:)

Don't feel so bad. I failed the operating system check, too. That might have given it away.

Buccaneer 10-25-2005 08:59 PM
I must be really out of sync today. Oh well.

Ben E Lou 10-25-2005 09:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buccaneer
I must be really out of sync today. Oh well.
Nah, just lost on the audience.

cuervo72 10-25-2005 09:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coop
Wow, what a dick!

From what I remember hearing about this guy, he's heard that before.

Ben E Lou 10-25-2005 09:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbmagic
i going to wait and see first.
Really? I never would have guessed.

ISiddiqui 10-25-2005 09:45 PM
LOL!

Anyway, Solver and Markos sold me. The game sounds great and I can't wait to get my hands on it.

Buccaneer 10-25-2005 09:47 PM
Imran, I think you should wait for jbmagic's review.

Draft Dodger 10-25-2005 09:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buccaneer
Imran, I think you should wait for jbmagic's review.

but that's at least a 30 day wait! :confused:

Buccaneer 10-25-2005 09:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Draft Dodger
but that's at least a 30 day wait! :confused:

I think it'll be worth the wait, it's all in the coupon.

I got nothing. Been running on fumes all day.

Eilim 10-25-2005 10:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buccaneer
I think it'll be worth the wait, it's all in the coupon.

I got nothing. Been running on fumes all day.

If it makes you feel any better, I've been chuckling since your first response. :D

ISiddiqui 10-25-2005 10:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buccaneer
Imran, I think you should wait for jbmagic's review.
Why? :D

I trust Solver at Poly. Hell, he's even got YIN salavating over the game ;).

twothree 10-25-2005 10:16 PM
Some parts of the chat log from civfanatics:
Quote:
[19:51] <@Chieftess> Question for Firaxis people: How many (and/or what )scenarios are with the base game?
19:54] <+FIRAXIS_Trip> the scenarios that come with the game are: American Revolution, Greek World, Earth 1000 AD and Desert War WWII
[19:54] <+FIRAXIS_Trip> there are some maps that went in also
[19:54] <+FIRAXIS_Trip> I made a map of Europe and other ones like South America and Africa
[19:54] <+FIRAXIS_Trip> not sure if they come with the game or not, but they'll be online either way

19:55] the utility that converts BMP to map will come with the game, right?
[19:55] <+FIRAXIS_Trip> TF: no, my BMP Map Convert utility will be a seperate download
[19:57] <+FIRAXIS_Trip> for the BMP Convert it takes a few BMP images (which have to be specially prepared) and turns it into a Civ 4 map
[19:57] <+FIRAXIS_Trip> fives images
[19:57] <+FIRAXIS_Trip> Terrain type, plot type (mountain, hills, flat, water), rivers, features (jungle, forest) and resources

20:00] <@Chieftess>Â Do they have any plans for distributing extra content via download for Mod creations?
[20:01] <+FIRAXIS_Trip> definitely
[20:01] <+FIRAXIS_Trip> we'll be putting up plenty of stuff on the website
[20:01] <+FIRAXIS_Trip> I have some stuff that will be going up there
[20:01] <+FIRAXIS_Trip> fan stuff will be there as well

20:32] <@Gogf> Colonel: Do you guys at Firaxis already have name selected for Civ IV's first expansion pack?
[[20:34] <+FIRAXIS_Trip> Expansion Pack name? no comment
[20:34] <+FIRAXIS_Trip> :)

[20:39] <@Gogf> Calinator: I've heard that there are no longer eras. If this is the case, at which point in the tech tree does the architecture in your cities change?
[20:40] <+Sirian> Calinator: There are eras. They work a bit differently now, though.
[20:40] <+Sirian> You can start in different eras. Later era starts will give you some extra units and all techs from earlier eras. (This is popular in MP!)
[20:41] <+Sirian> The eras will bring graphical changes too, but they no longer restrict your tech choices. You can have unresearched techs from the Ancient era and yet have arrived in the Industrial Era. First tech researched in an era moves you to that era.

Info was obtained from...

http://www.civfanatics.com/chat/civ4...iraxis_QA.html

Buccaneer 10-25-2005 10:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ISiddiqui
Why? :D

I trust Solver at Poly. Hell, he's even got YIN salavating over the game ;).

Maybe jb ought to give yin his coupon, that will be about the time when yin will call Civ4 the worse Civ game ever.

jbmagic 10-25-2005 10:31 PM
Good News from the chat so far
http://www.civfanatics.com/chat/civ4...iraxis_QA.html

Quote:
FIRAXIS_Trip> Navies are more important now because the AI is better at landing troops now

<+FIRAXIS_Trip> the AI is better also which makes it more challenging

+FIRAXIS_Trip> the AI is also more engaging when it comes to diplomacy

FIRAXIS_Trip> if you attack someone while having open borders it will cancel the agreement and move your units outside
[20:07] <+FIRAXIS_Trip> no more ROP exploitation like in Civ 3

Bee 10-26-2005 06:13 AM
I'm not sure which is more entertaining...Bucc's comments or SkyDog's obvious envy of Jonah...

:D

Ben E Lou 10-26-2005 06:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bee
I'm not sure which is more entertaining...Bucc's comments or SkyDog's obvious envy of Jonah...

:D
Good ol' Jonah....

I'm glad that Firaxis saying that the AI is better has put jb at ease.

Bee 10-26-2005 06:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkyDog
Good ol' Jonah....

I'm glad that Firaxis saying that the AI is better has put jb at ease.

Well..hey, it's straight from the source. They should know. :D

Toddzilla 10-26-2005 07:45 AM
Alrighty boys, lets try this again...who's got the game yet ;)

Ben E Lou 10-26-2005 07:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ISiddiqui
You do realize that sites like that exist for getting you to go out and buy a new video card, right? Too many people have 'passed' on the components only to get a 'fail' on the main video ram requirement.
Yup. Check this out. Simcity runs super-fast on my system, yet I fail the "recommendations."


CPURecommended: Pentium III or Athlon equivalentYou Have: 2 processors running - Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz

PASS
CPU SpeedRecommended: 1.0 GHzYou Have: 3.2 GHz

PASS
Operating SystemRecommended: Windows 98/2000/XP (NT & 95 not supported)You Have: Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)

PASS
System RAMRecommended: 512 MBYou Have: 2.0 GB

PASS
Video CardRecommended: Direct 3D 128 MB DirectX 7 compatible video cardYou Have: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 (GeForce FX 5200)

FAIL: Sorry, your video card does not meet this recommended requirement. Upgrading to a more powerful video card will make all your applications look better. Click the 'We Recommend' button to see some great options.

Video Card Features - Minimum attributes of your Video Card

Video Card 3D Acceleration: Required - Yes , You have - Yes
Video RAM: Required - 128 MB , You have - 256.0 MB

Video Card Driver Version (DirectX)Your driver version number is: 6.14.10.7801
 FYI: Make sure you have the latest driver for your video card. Click 'Free Driver Update' and we'll direct you to your video card manufacturer.
DirectX VersionRecommended: 7.0You Have: 9.0c

 PASS
Sound CardRecommended: YesYou Have: SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio

 PASS
Sound Card Driver VersionYour driver version number is: 5.12.1.3630
 FYI: Your sound card driver version is provided for your information, but it is not part of this analysis. But proper sound card driver versions are important to the proper operation of your product.
Free Disk SpaceRecommended: 1.6 GB plus additional space for saved games, Windows swap file and DirectX 7 installYou Have: 187.0 GB

PASS
CDRecommended: 4X speed CD-ROM or DVD-ROMYou Have: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S

 PASS, but the Speed could NOT be analyzed.

It runs with no crashes or slowdowns or any other noticeable performance problems on my laptop, too. I'm booting it up right now to see if it even passes the "minimum requirements..."

ISiddiqui 10-26-2005 08:13 AM
Skydog, and of course you've noticed right next to it the "We Recommend" button ;). Wonder how much of a commission they get on video cards?

Ben E Lou 10-26-2005 08:25 AM
Yup, as suspected, I am UNABLE to run SimCity 4 Deluxe Edition on my laptop. ;) (Hmmm..I thought I had 32MB of video RAM...)

CPUMinimum: Pentium III or Athlon equivalentYou Have: 2 processors running - Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz

PASS
CPU SpeedMinimum: 500 MHzYou Have: 3.1 GHz

PASS
Operating SystemMinimum: Windows 98/2000/XP (NT & 95 not supported)You Have: Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)

PASS
System RAMMinimum: 128 MB (256 MB for Windows XP/ME)You Have: 479.4 MB

PASS
Video CardMinimum: Direct3D 32 MB DirectX 7 capable video cardYou Have: Intel(R) 82852/82855 GM/GME Graphics Controller (Intel(R) 82852/82855 Graphics Controller)

FAIL: Sorry, your video card does not meet this minimum requirement.

Video Card Features - Minimum attributes of your Video Card

Video Card 3D Acceleration: Required - Yes , You have - Yes
Video RAM: Required - 32 MB , You have - 64.0 MB

Video Card Driver Version (DirectX)Your driver version number is: 6.14.10.3619
 FYI: Make sure you have the latest driver for your video card. Click 'Free Driver Update' and we'll direct you to your video card manufacturer.
DirectX VersionMinimum: 7.0You Have: 9.0c

 PASS
Sound CardMinimum: YesYou Have: Conexant AC-Link Audio

 PASS
Sound Card Driver VersionYour driver version number is: 6.13.10.8240
 FYI: Your sound card driver version is provided for your information, but it is not part of this analysis. But proper sound card driver versions are important to the proper operation of your product.
Free Disk SpaceMinimum: 1.6 GB plus additional space for saved games, Windows swap file and DirectX 7 installYou Have: 20.0 GB

PASS
CDMinimum: 4X speed CD-ROM or DVD-ROMYou Have: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-L532A

 PASS, but the Speed could NOT be analyzed.


Celeval 10-26-2005 09:35 AM
Huh. They don't do it for everyone, since the two laptops and desktop in our house pass all of them (they're not really latest and greatest).

GrantDawg 10-26-2005 10:56 AM
I'm taking up a collection to buy this for me. Please give. Think of the children!! (that I can ignore while playing this game).

spleen1015 10-26-2005 11:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toddzilla
Alrighty boys, lets try this again...who's got the game yet ;)

I have it.

sachmo71 10-26-2005 11:10 AM
interesting response.

have you played it yet?

Flasch186 10-26-2005 11:12 AM
i have it!!!

good bye, nice knowing ya!!

spleen1015 10-26-2005 11:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sachmo71
interesting response.

have you played it yet?

Nope. :D Rebooting now after installation.

Pumpy Tudors 10-26-2005 11:22 AM
how the AI

spleen1015 10-26-2005 11:30 AM
It runs impossibly slow on my desktop. I am going to install it on this laptop and see what happens.


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