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Vince 07-25-2005 06:47 PM

Well, that took longer than I expected to write up. Here's the other thing that I am worried about now...

I had a gut feeling this afternoon about Peregrine. No one seems to be listening to me, but that's ok :) (well, maybe Raiders Army said something somewhere, not sure). He was one of the three fingered by Qwikshot.

Peregrine's first reaction is to vote immediately for blade. "Piling on" so to speak. The only problem is that any sane person would probably vote for Blade, since he already had 'evidence' against him. However, he then points out that if it isn't blade, it's OBVIOUSLY Neon Chaos. I'm still not convinced on Peregrine's loyalties.

Mr. Wednesday 07-25-2005 06:47 PM

If you look at VI, there are good examples of things that were done, both real and made up, as justification for voting a particular way.

SirFozzie 07-25-2005 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie
I was going to save this until AFTER the 8:00 PM deadline, but it's quite obvious who has the votes.

I'll tell you what it is:

I didn't want people posting FULL UNEDITED PM's of mine into the game. I have been at work and at Physical Therapy for my shoulder all game, so I just got the "3 picks" 2 minutes from when I sent it.

The player DID ask permission to break this info in game. I thought Qwik meant that could he relay the information in game, not post me word for word.

Shit. Trying to figure out how to figure this out.


Ok. Came up with a partial way to solve this.

Yes, that is my words in that PM, one of that three is a Chryssalid.

In return, I now will reveal Qwik's role, as a counter balance to the "mod approval". That way, both sides have been helped significantly.

This is Qwikshot's Role.

Your role is the Jack of All Trades.

Once per night, you may break into the room of any person who has died previously, learning their role, and if they had a special X-Com Role, you have the ability to assume that role. (Note: You may only have one speciality, so if you pick up a role, you lose the Jack of All Trades ability)

Qwikshot 07-25-2005 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army
Okay. Then SirFozzie confirms that Qwik is on the level. Proof is in the pudding. I have to:

Unvote kingfc22
Vote Blade


I'm not sure if that was a slip-up, but evidently Qwik is for real.


Just because of a random event though...though I mucked things up a little.

To be honest, if Fozzie hadn't said anything except no posting of PMs, my credibility could still be questionable.

Vince 07-25-2005 06:49 PM

Well, I wonder who the aliens are going to kill tonight?

Nice role -- excellent work Qwik.

hoopsguy 07-25-2005 06:49 PM

Qwik, congratulations for serving your world. I have a sneaking suspicion that I won't be seeing you tomorrow morning if there isn't a dedicated role who can stick to you like glue.

Swaggs 07-25-2005 06:50 PM

Vote Blade6119

SirFozzie 07-25-2005 06:50 PM

oh.. BTW..

Just so I'm PERFECTLY CLEAR..

NO MORE POSTING OF PM's from me. If you paraphrase me, you better change just about every word, because I now HAVE to come down hard on it.

Vince 07-25-2005 06:50 PM

I'm going with my gut on this one (and earning some animosity because of it I'm sure). Now, if blade turns out to be the Chryssalid, I guess I'm in trouble...but it happens.

I vote Peregrine.

Qwikshot 07-25-2005 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie
Ok. Came up with a partial way to solve this.

Yes, that is my words in that PM, one of that three is a Chryssalid.

In return, I now will reveal Qwik's role, as a counter balance to the "mod approval". That way, both sides have been helped significantly.

This is Qwikshot's Role.

Your role is the Jack of All Trades.

Once per night, you may break into the room of any person who has died previously, learning their role, and if they had a special X-Com Role, you have the ability to assume that role. (Note: You may only have one speciality, so if you pick up a role, you lose the Jack of All Trades ability)



Aw geez...:) Well so much for the grunt alibi...but then again, that is fair.

Raiders Army 07-25-2005 06:51 PM

That's really nice. WTF can't you give me a role like that? :)

Anyhow, Vince makes a good point. I don't want to bandwagon on Blade, just in case he ends up a good guy.

Unvote Blade
Vote Peregrine


I'm still not convinced of your altruism. You play this game like a rookie, yet you had the insights into several other games. I also won't be a party to someone (who I just insulted his intelligence tonight) getting the axe.

Qwikshot 07-25-2005 06:51 PM

I hope there is a guard in this game...

Mr. Wednesday 07-25-2005 06:52 PM

Current voting sequence:
Hoops vote Blade (1)
RA vote kingfc22 (1)
Hoops unvote Blade (0)
CW vote kingfc22 (2)
Peregrine vote fouts (1)
Vince vote Peregrine (1)
Hoops vote Blade (1)
Swaggs vote Hoops (1)
Vince unvote Peregrine (0)
Peregrine unvote Fouts (0), vote Swaggs (1)
Vince vote Swaggs (2)
Neon vote Swaggs (3)
Fouts vote Blade (2)
Digamma vote Neon (1), unvote Neon (0), vote Blade (3)
Jeebs unvote Swaggs (2)
Qwik vote Blade (4)
Peregrine unvote Swaggs (1), vote Blade (5)
Vince unvote Swaggs (0)
Swaggs unvote Hoops (0)
Jeebs vote Blade (6)
RA unvote kingfc22 (1), vote Blade (7)

Peregrine 07-25-2005 06:52 PM

Vince, you were already on my suspicious list that I posted before, and you're just growing on it. You'd love me to be lynched, I'm sure. But who is more believable at this point, the suspicious Blade, the mostly absent Neon_Chaos, or me? I've been trying to stir things up and feel out who the real villains are. I believe Swaggs for the most part, but the important thing is that accusations can be useful. It makes people defend their actions and that's always a good thing, you can't let people skate by and not be questioned, like oh I don't know, the remarkably under the radar JeeberD?

Vince 07-25-2005 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwikshot
Aw geez...:) Well so much for the grunt alibi...but then again, that is fair.


I was trying to figure that out -- your claim to be a grunt had me wondering about you, since I had no option to break into people's rooms in my description :) I was halfway through a PM to Fozzie asking to break into someone's room tonight, when I realized that something had to be up.

Raiders Army 07-25-2005 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army
I'm still not convinced of your altruism. You play this game like a rookie, yet you had the insights into several other games. I also won't be a party to someone (who I just insulted his intelligence tonight) getting the axe.

Oh, I'm talking about Peregrine here, not Qwik.

hoopsguy 07-25-2005 06:53 PM

Vince, if Blade isn't our alien then I suspect you will have some company in the voting tomorrow.

Raiders Army 07-25-2005 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy
Vince, if Blade isn't our alien then I suspect you will have some company in the voting tomorrow.

Why so? You feel safe now that Blade's head is on the chopping block? I'm not defending him (although I voted with him tonight), but I would like people to open their minds a little...

This still makes me wonder about kingfc22. I am considering changing my vote back to him...

Qwikshot 07-25-2005 06:55 PM

Where is Blade? You'd think he'd say something?

Vince 07-25-2005 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peregrine
Vince, you were already on my suspicious list that I posted before, and you're just growing on it. You'd love me to be lynched, I'm sure. But who is more believable at this point, the suspicious Blade, the mostly absent Neon_Chaos, or me? I've been trying to stir things up and feel out who the real villains are. I believe Swaggs for the most part, but the important thing is that accusations can be useful. It makes people defend their actions and that's always a good thing, you can't let people skate by and not be questioned, like oh I don't know, the remarkably under the radar JeeberD?


That's the thing. I'm not entirely convinced that I'd love to have you lynched. And I know that I'm growing on your suspicious list. Thankfully, not one other person has even commented on your two (now three) mentions of 'Vince' and 'suspicious' in the same statement. Sadly, I don't think that'll be possible after tonight.

You're right -- people need to make accusations. I just don't know how to interpret them yet. What I do know is that if I was a bad guy this time around, and I was able to convert people, that you would be #1 on my list of people to convert. Now, I think we would be much better served hitting the Chryssalid this time around rather than someone converted -- but if we hit a non-Chryssalid in the group of three tonight, we KNOW that one of the other two is a Chryssalid. At least I think we do...

Mr. Wednesday 07-25-2005 06:56 PM

Add to my list,
Swaggs vote Blade (8)
Vince vote Peregrine (1)
RA unvote Blade (7), vote Peregrine (2)

Jeebs voted for Blade (kicking off a mini-bandwagon) at a point when the now-known-Grunt Schmidty was in the lead in the voting.

SirFozzie 07-25-2005 06:57 PM

Ok, I'm going to start tabulating votes now. Please don't make me any more mental gymnastics in the mean time. This could take a while..

*sighs*

Peregrine 07-25-2005 06:57 PM

The Chrysalid definitely has to be the prime target. What I'm really worried about is Sirfozzie's earlier statements that made me think we won't KNOW if we killed the Chrysalid or not. Say there are 2 aliens out of the 3, if we see one less ectoplasmic source tomorrow the Chrysalid could still be out there converting people.

kingfc22 07-25-2005 06:58 PM

doh, just got home because someone called in sick....

Vote Blade

Mr. Wednesday 07-25-2005 06:58 PM

At this point, with the blowing up of Blade seemingly fait accompli, I'm going to withhold my vote. I don't have any insight into any other people (aside from the suspicious troika identified by Qwikshot, who incidentally will not be off the hook if Blade is a Chrysalid as we have no guarantee that Qwik didn't get two by chance), I gain nothing by piling on Blade, and I gain nothing but additional suspicion if I vote for someone else and Blade is a Chrysalid.

Mr. Wednesday 07-25-2005 06:59 PM

Dola, I was composing that while SF said he was starting to count the vote. :o

Raiders Army 07-25-2005 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peregrine
The Chrysalid definitely has to be the prime target. What I'm really worried about is Sirfozzie's earlier statements that made me think we won't KNOW if we killed the Chrysalid or not. Say there are 2 aliens out of the 3, if we see one less ectoplasmic source tomorrow the Chrysalid could still be out there converting people.

Stop trying to second guess! Now I'm glad I voted for you! If there are 2 aliens out of the 3, then we have a 66% chance, and you're not even on the chopping block. That's good, I'd say. If there are 3 out of 3 aliens (that means you), then we have a 100% chance of getting a hit tonight. How is this bad?

Also, say we don't hit the Chysalid. At least we know who the two other suspects are.

Vince 07-25-2005 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy
Vince, if Blade isn't our alien then I suspect you will have some company in the voting tomorrow.


What I'm afraid of is that he IS the alien, and then I'm thrown up on the suspicious list because of my big mouth and me thinking out loud.

What I'm thinking is that one of the major joys of X-Com (for me) was that you'd start playing, and you'd be killing all of these Sectoids. All of a sudden, you come upon a terror mission or spacecraft, and start fighting these guys that looked nothing like Sectoids, and could fly! Or these nasty looking black things that couldn't fire at you, but could convert your soldiers into badguys (the Chryssalids)! I don't think an X-Com Werewolf game would be very good without multiple types of aliens. Because of that, I don't think we have more than one Chryssalid.

I think that a Chryssalid who could convert one of us every night would unbalance the game, so I'm thinking he either had one shot at it, or can only do it every other night or so. However, I'm pretty sure we'll have at least one less good guy after the night is over (not including a potential lynch of a good guy).

I have no idea what the point of this post is -- probably just nerves. I want to keep talking :)

Mr. Wednesday 07-25-2005 07:01 PM

By my count, we should have seven or eight for Blade, one for kingfc22, and two for Peregrine.

Vince 07-25-2005 07:02 PM

Well, not "very good..." I don't think it would be very true to X-Com if there weren't more than one alien species.

Raiders Army 07-25-2005 07:03 PM

I'm going back to my room. I'll be looking at pix of the last time I was in Teri Hatcher's van, so I'll see you guys in the morning. I'm not leaving my room and the room is locked, so don't come a'knockin you Chryssalid!

SirFozzie 07-25-2005 07:09 PM

Gonna be a bit longer. A couple PM'd me questions (what part of DO NOT make me do mental gymnastics did ya not understand, people :D) and I'm tabulating the vote/unvote/revote (some without unvotes)

Peregrine 07-25-2005 07:13 PM

Quote:

Stop trying to second guess! Now I'm glad I voted for you! If there are 2 aliens out of the 3, then we have a 66% chance, and you're not even on the chopping block. That's good, I'd say. If there are 3 out of 3 aliens (that means you), then we have a 100% chance of getting a hit tonight. How is this bad?

Good one RA, way to twist my words to make ME sound suspicious, when you're the very suspicious one. Of course it's good if we get the alien, or 2 or 3. My point is that getting the chrysalid first is key, but we may not know if we do. Even if we do eventually get the Chrysalis, the aliens want to make us lynch as many innocents out of the 3 as possible. They know I'm innocent, so nice way to set me up for a lynch tomorrow...

Qwikshot 07-25-2005 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peregrine
Good one RA, way to twist my words to make ME sound suspicious, when you're the very suspicious one. Of course it's good if we get the alien, or 2 or 3. My point is that getting the chrysalid first is key, but we may not know if we do. Even if we do eventually get the Chrysalis, the aliens want to make us lynch as many innocents out of the 3 as possible. They know I'm innocent, so nice way to set me up for a lynch tomorrow...


If anyone is a target, it's me.

kingfc22 07-25-2005 07:15 PM

still reading through thread...trying to catch up....I said I was the pilot because I was role playing from the original X-Com dynasty.

Qwikshot 07-25-2005 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22
still reading through thread...trying to catch up....I said I was the pilot because I was role playing from the original X-Com dynasty.


I figured that.

Peregrine 07-25-2005 07:17 PM

Qwik, they'll probably kill you tonight, or possibly convert you if we aren't successful today. I'm just pointing out that we're 2 missed lynches away from being even with the aliens, assuming they kill someone the next two nights.

SirFozzie 07-25-2005 07:19 PM

hoopsguy: Blade6119
Raiders Army: Peregrine
Coffee Warlord: Blade6119
Peregrine: Blade
Vince: Peregrine
Swaggs:Blade6119
Neon_Chaos: Swaggs
Fouts: Blade6119
JeeberD: Blade6119
digamma: Blade6119
Qwikshot: Blade6119
KingFC22: Blade6119

With the relevation of Qwikshot's information from his pocket recorder, voting quickly turns ugly against Blade6119, who glares at the computer. "Damn thing is off, I could prove my innocence if it was on.."

But then he focuses a glare on all of you and waves of pure hatred seem to radiate from his body. He raises his chin, and says.. "Computer.. do your worst. I'm not afriad to die.. you all are afraid to Live! Live like we were going to!"

The Sonic Cannon pops out of the recessed ceiling, and fires. He has time for one last laugh and then gets blown into the wall, trailing black ichor everywhere he goes. He raises his head, spits black blood, and dies.

Before your eyes, his body quickly dissolves, until there's nothing left but black ichor, bubbling away. That's never happened before........

Ranks of the Dead:

Schmidty (Blasted by All: Day 1)
Blade6119 (Blasted by All: day 2)

JeeberD 07-25-2005 07:20 PM

Sweetness!

Qwikshot 07-25-2005 07:20 PM

WOOHOO!!!

Vince 07-25-2005 07:21 PM

So that's good, right? I don't know many people with Black Ichor running through their veins.

Mr. Wednesday 07-25-2005 07:21 PM

Excellent!

Peregrine 07-25-2005 07:22 PM

Nice work, one down.

Mr. Wednesday 07-25-2005 07:22 PM

Dola, I gather from the previous discussion about X-Com that black ichor suggests that Blade was a Chrysalid.

Vince 07-25-2005 07:26 PM

Yeah, that would indicate that he was either a Chryssalid or a Chryssalid zombie.

In the game, if a Chryssalid attacked one of your men enough, he'd turn into a walking zombie...but that zombie was actually just a host, and after a few turns it would turn INTO a Chryssalid.

Blade's statement "You all are afraid to live..." makes me wonder if he wasn't the converted zombie, though? And if a converted zombie would register as a Chryssalid to the 'look' that Qwik got? If Blade had been converted, then we might not even have the original Chryssalid in that group of three. If Blade WAS the original Chryssalid, we're still completely and totally unsure of whether or not either of the other two (Peregrine or Neon Chaos) are cleared now.

kingfc22 07-25-2005 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwikshot
You've heard that scream once before.. in Buenos Aires, on a terror mission. That's the sound of someone being turned into a Chryssalid-Zombie!

You have a chance to identify the Chryssalid player.

(I will not tell you which one of the three is the Chryssalid, I just will tell you that one of the three IS or IS NOT the Chryssalid)


The way I take this is that Qwik would learn of the converted player. I think that the original 4 are still around. If this ability allowed Quik to look for ANY alien (not sure if all aliens are Chyrssalids or not) the odds would be much better that he would "hit" and would nearly ensure an alien death..

SirFozzie 07-25-2005 07:33 PM

If you hadn't figured it out, we are in Night 2. All actions to me before 7 AM.

Qwikshot 07-25-2005 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22
The way I take this is that Qwik would learn of the converted player. I think that the original 4 are still around. If this ability allowed Quik to look for ANY alien (not sure if all aliens are Chyrssalids or not) the odds would be much better that he would "hit" and would nearly ensure an alien death..


Correction, I can't tell what the aliens are...I can only tell what special role dead comrades were and if it's a good one, convert to it.

But I'll be dead by tomorrow but I'll try to take a few with me. {sharpens his blade}

Neon_Chaos 07-25-2005 07:59 PM

Wow. Take long trek to work and all this unfolds while you're away. And to think that I almost got killed! However, good job guys, we seem to have bagged ourselves an alien! :)

I think it's pretty obvous that Blade was an alien... I have to rethink everything I've thought about and hypothesized... Jeez. :(

Fouts 07-25-2005 08:02 PM

One for two so far. Not bad, lets keep this up. Who's next Qwik?


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