Just finished the PSu interview for Senior Asst. Dir of Res Life. I think I did well, but we'll see.

Congrats, hope the best for you.

Well I really hate to pile on, but it does seem like britrock is the most likely suspect at this point. If he comes up good (which I'm rather doubting), I'd say take a look at fontisian tomorrow. She led the way for indicting him, not only with her vote but her analysis.

I kind of have the feeling I'm a likely target for the wolves' night kill tonight. Because, as fontisian stated, I'm "so town". Seems like a smart move to kill the villager most of the other villagers seem to agree is indeed a villager, rather than taking out someone they can talk the village into thinking is a wolf.

vote britrock88

I would think my power is a stealth order--to redirect another player's night power.

I understand why this is a runaway, but I don't like seeing the conversation grind to a halt. I'm telling you, deadline will hit in 6 hours, and everybody but the 1-2 Bad players left will be disappointed.

Don't get lazy! Think about the implications of what I'm saying if it so happens that it turns out to be true!

I'm not concerned much about dying in the sense that Good can likely afford a couple mislynches at this point, and my power is a hard one to use for Good's benefit. But the void of D3 will sting worse when D4 rolls around.

I don't foresee a ton happening in the thread for the rest of the day. And, unfortunately, given my surprise at Autumn turning up bad, and with the confluence of events that at least semi-clear the majority of the remaining players, I don't have a lot of places to recommend the village look come tomorrow.

I do find it's notable that Font has not been around since I showed up in the thread this morning. I also find it notable that JAG has pretty much ridden Font's coattails today (as good as her case for me may look). If Autumn can do so well in impressing a part of the village, so can the other good WW players still around.

Don't get lazy, says the guy who has done no analysis today...:p

I was actually going to look back at font earlier today just for the heck of it.

Explain why you thought Larry Dallas as a role blocker would likely be town. Why would a town captain prioritize that role over the follower role or BG? Especially when it would be just as likely to hit a fellow town member. Why wouldn't evil want to have that role under control to try and stop scans or prevent a night kill from being blocked by seduction?

Even though most of you are my village-mates, do I really owe it to you? I've offered a few counter-arguments regarding my own case, but this position is really a catch-22. Self-critique implicates me; self-exoneration implicates me.

Great question. I kind of interpreted the role-blocker as a corollary to the BG; instead of preventing a NK, the role-blocker could be used to control the powers of an outed Neutral or Bad-adjacent such as a cultist. It's not as powerful as a BG-type, sure; and I suppose the role-blocking is more likely to backfire in a game such as this where most players have roles with powers of some kind. But it was my feeling at the time--I've obviously been caught out since.

Just out of curiosity, I went back to compare Autumn and my descriptions of the roles (comparing yourself to Autumn is a recipe for self-loathing in WW, for sure). Here's Autumn's take on his role:


...and here's my take on mine (let's give me the benefit of the doubt for making an uncontroverted claim):


I gave an honest assessment. I thought Wayne Arnold would have been useful to Bad in the same way (and perhaps to even greater effect) that JAG thinks Larry Dallas would have been useful to Bad. Now I just happen to be stuck having bought Autumn's play wholesale and honestly claiming a role that I would have expected to be drafted by Bad. So it goes.

I really regret that I'm going to be the only person in the thread until I'm lynched, everyone's gonna say "Oh, shit!" when they see the result, and you'll be left to search in the shadows for the remaining Bad players--while taking my comments at face value for perhaps the first time.

I'm here, I just don't really know where else we are going to go today. There's pretty strong circumstantial evidence that makes almost everyone else other than Tarcone look decent.

If you're a villager who wants to win, then yeah, you should. In your position, I would put out everything I could think of so the rest of the village could look back the next day knowing you were giving an honest assessment.

You asked Font a question about her wishy-washy claim of the extra vote power that I'm pretty sure is yours. Put some pressure on her to answer you on that.

JAG is an interesting one. The Bud Bundy role is one that is one that you wouldn't have thought a wolf captain would pick, one thing that bugs me is what if the wolf captain could pick players rather than roles? Do we have it confirmed anywhere that the draft was based on roles?

He's been pretty vocal in thread in support of Autumn and his game, what if the master plan was to draft Autumn and JAG (two very strong players) and then have them run misdirection?

I don't feel good about this theory, just throwing stuff out there to start some conversation.

Sorry, the Bud Bundy role isn't one you would think a wolf captain would pick

I would prefer to go by the route of vote analysis; that's a little harder to do when a duke steers the lynch result away from the lynch vote. That said, Autumn was a candidate, so...

#553 Autumn comes out in defense of font and mau and makes Abe his vote to push him into the lead, I'm still feeling pretty good about Abe based on yesterday

I think font's game is really really weird. I don't know if that's wolfy or not, but it's definitely different. It's worth noting that she claimed the double vote without revealing a role (which I know is not the case, just in case anyone has really not been paying attention) in error, and the explanation for it was wishy washy and impossible to disprove. I just don't see a wolf being that vocal and all over the place, but it's possible I'm wrong.

Somebody remind me why mau isn't a candidate again? In general, his play style fits the wolf profile more than anyone still participating in the game, even britrock. Very quiet and even when posting very little of substance.

Voting for Autumn, getting almost voted out D1 by Autumn and Jackal.

Here bhlloy, from the bottom section of the rules:

D2 voting in a nutshell:


Remember when the D2 lynch was a 4-1 Font runaway? Seems like ancient history. JAG had voted/unvoted Abe before Telle brought Mau to within 2.

Font shows up in a big way at about 4:30 to show her non-alignment with Jackal. In the next couple hours...

Font votes Abe (4-2-1)
Mau votes Cheeki (4-2-1-1) -- refreshing to see new candidates considered this late in the day :D )
Bhlloy flips from Mau to Abe (4-2-1-1)
Autumn flips from Font to Abe (3-3-1-1)

In a world with BadFont, it's a pretty nice bus by Autumn if he's able to hang a first vote on an apparent runaway, only to manufacture a tie within 3 hours of lynch.

Mau flips from Cheeki to Autumn (3-3-1-1) -- some interesting messing around behind the leaders. Plus this:


1) There already was a 2-person race: Abe and Font.
2) Mau was 2 votes off the pace.
3) Isn't the play here to vote Abe?
4) Is this a sneaky way to bus a fellow Bad?

Cheeki flips from Font to Autumn (3-2-2-1)

Your summary as of 8:19pm:


JAG votes Abe (4-2-2-1) at 9:20 -- where's his vote been?
Telle flips from Mau to Autumn (4-3-2) at 9:40


...crickets.

Final tally:


And let's just assume arguendo that Bad knew the extra vote was stuck on Abe, as I had disclaimed it and Font/Bhlloy were the other possible owners of the power.

Brit, do you have a lynch order after you? People you think are town? Reads in general?

Mau had a very strange interaction on D1 with Jackal if they're partners.

Yeah, went back and read through the vote periods. Feel really good about Mau now

I think Abe, cheeki and Mau are looking pretty good based on voting patterns. Cheeki has claimed the duke role which presumably a wolf captain wouldn't want to choose based on the description, although how incredibly awesome a play would it be for a wolf to duke it to a wolf to build trust?

Telle voted font day 1 and Autumn day 2, but at a time that Abe was well ahead and that vote was never in immediate danger of lynching Autumn so didn't need to move. Not clearing her based on that.

If we think Abe and Mau are good then JAG has been on a villager both days

Finally, font. Her vote got Jackal lynched day 1 but we have no idea if she actually meant it or not. Day 2 she's on a presumed villager. Claimed a power that she didn't have but didn't claim the role. Given how I know I have my power I'm massively skeptical her explanation of that holds water. Had a funny feeling most of the game about her and not getting better with recent events... but still don't think a wolf is that brazen, loud and forward. Started the run on Abe day 2 and britrock day 3 (worth noting that I followed her as the second both times)

++: Abe, Cheeki
+: Bhlloy, Telle
=: Font (I think you're Terri)
-: JAG, Mau
null: Tarc

You have questions outstanding. ;)

Thanks

Will get to the questions soon.tm.

Stepping away for an hour or so to run a few errands

I think if the game isn't over by tomorrow my two to look at next would be tarcone (completely wasted day, but might as well get him gone) and font

I rarely post anything of substance, never have probably never Will! My game consists of reads and gut feelings.

I'm not piling on brit. Someone has to die and his pleas are as any wolf would do but I'm getting a small vibe of townie.

Who to make #2? Font? Bhlloy?

++: Bhlloy, Cheeki
+: Abe, Telle
=: Mau
-: JAG, Font
null: Tarc

A few edits. Would really like Cheeki to take a leading role, if possible.

Why wouldn't you consider JAG who already has a vote (and you could actually push as a #2)?

EF, if you need a replacement for tarc, I can pressure someone into doing it.

'bout to head out and do some shopping. Should be back in 90 minutes or so.

Dola

I don't know that I ever recall the village going 1-2-3 with wolves on D1-3, so here's hoping!

Um, I think I should be clear from the way Autumn treated me. So, Day 1, he pointed out an inconsistency and voted for Jackal, and this eventually killed Jackal, even though Autumn moved to save him at the end. Autumn's a smart guy, and he wouldn't start the next day by trying the same play with his other teammate and potentially killing them as well. Also, autumn put a lot more effort into calling me a wolf d2 than he did for Jackal d1.

Back! Should be getting some good lasagna eats in a few minutes

I had an awesome pizza earlier.

With the ruunaway on brit, should we test theory on double vote? I'll switch over to brit if it's the consensus and have don't move over TO a random person w out votes cast on if we believe she's a double vote?

No, we know who has the double vote

Bhlloy has it, yeah.

Alright, D3 looks decided so let's tee up D4...

Font-dont

I was correcting my typo in my post not telling you to not vote font lol. I suck on the phone.

Ah, k, I obviously missed that. I thought I saw font say she possibly had it.

?

Oh, this makes sense, ok.

Kind of annoying that on the night work's slow, there's nothing to do.

I don't think I will be, but if I'm NK'd the remaining townies should watch the next 10 minutes closely

I'm around if anyone wants to talk to a dead townie.

Oh yeah, I'll ask Font again: do you have a night action? Were you surprised to see your N1 action redirected to JAG?

Don't let Font off easily, guys. She's basically shrugging her way through false-claiming the double vote power.

Hi brit

I don't have a night action.

That I know of, anyway.

Okay.

I still feel very strongly that Font is the neutral leader and has some win condition around drawing a kill

Thanks. That's useful in its own way.

I tend to agree.

Good luck tomorrow, town!

I'd be kinda interested in font revealing her role to be honest, especially after already claiming my ability. But if people think that gives a wolf a potential out and don't think it's a good play, I'm ok with that too

I will if the game doesn't end and I don't die.

Wouldn't be surprised if I'm the NK target with the double vote as numbers dwindle. Unless the wolves think they have a good handle on the seer or a more important role

That would be good font. Others let us know if you strongly disagree

Damn, we misread that one. Got to be tarcone tomorrow

GG everybody!!!

Wow.

Damn. Going to take a while to process this one.

Take a huge step forward Telle - we had pretty much cleared Abe so we'd have spent days going round in circles if that hadn't happened

3 for 3!

GG! Go town!

The Cast

1) cheekimonk - Vinton Harper: While you seem vanilla in every manner, you do have one important power. You may change a vote from one player to another. You may only use that power one time but you MAY gain a secondary ability afterwards.


2) Autumn - Larry Dallas: May target a player each night to prevent that person from performing an action. Drafted by the wolves.


3) JAG - Bud Bundy; you may absorb an ability from a player one time during the game. Pick that character (not player name but a role name) and you will be given whatever ability that player had the next night.


4) Abe Sargent - Colonel Wilhelm Klink: Will learn the role of the first player that cast a vote on him during any day. Drafted by the wolves.


5) tarcone - Irwin “Skippy” Handelman: You are always love-sick, hoping that someone looks your way. If you are scanned you will latch onto that player and cause any subsequent scans to yield the exact opposite of what they would have been told. You will be notified that you were scanned, but not by who.


6) britrock88 - Wayne Arnold: You are a bully. You may pick one person a night to do your bidding. If you are on the wolves, you may pick another player to perform your kill for you. If you are on the village, you may pick one player a night and “aim” their power at someone else. You won’t know the result of the power that you moved.


7) The Jackal - Natalie Green (leader of the wolves); Has brutal ability.


8) bhlloy - Jeffrey Murdock; You may seem off to everyone, as you are always spouting out nonsensical theories so no one knows exactly what to think of you. You have a choice to make by the end of the day Monday. What ability set do you want? Set 1: cunning if a wolf or extra vote if a villager. Set 2: ability to change a player’s vote if a wolf or vanilla if a villager. Chose set 1, gets extra vote.


9) Chief Rum - Les Nessman: May follow a person each night to see what they are up to. There is a 10% chance that he will not see anything.


10) Telle - Terri Alden (neutral); a night attack against her will result in the death of the attacker; there is a 50% chance that she sees any action against her as an attack and will also kill that person; if a person performing an action on her is not killed they will lose their ability for one night.


11) Julio Riddols - Rosalind “Roz” Russell: May protect one person per night. Will fight off any attack against that person. May not protect the same person on back to back nights. May self protect (subject to the same rule of no back to back night protection). Drafted by the village.


12) mauchow - Major Frank Burns (leader of the village); scan a player to see what they are up to; 50% chance that he will see any action as an evil action. Can perform a night attack on one of his scanned targets, loses his scan ability after using an attack


13) fontisian - Potsie Weber: You have a dark secret, you may use a one time night kill ability.

This was quite the wtf game.

I scanned him two nights in a row and found him up to no good tonight so not entirely true.

Lol. Nice.

Depending of course who he nk tonight. Who was the order?

I find cheeki's duke highly amusing.

"Not that wolf. This wolf!"

Lol!

font, the reason I laughed about the Chief thing is that he was pretty much doomed day 1 due to multiple orders to kill him, so he was definitely dead. Thought it was funny then seeing a vote on him after he was dead. "They really want to get rid of him." :)

Yesterday was the oddest of days. Autumn and Abe didn't have a backup plan to Autumn making the kill.

The thing is, Abe was followed by mau but since Abe did absolutely nothing he wasn't outed. With that said mau decided to watch him again tonight since there wasn't a kill last night so he would have found him.

I was hoping for a tie day zero. It would have led to another team (the two who were tied). That was the day zero tie breaker. Every day after that was much worse, both would have been killed.

So I had mauchow right at least. If you look back today, I had a realization about halfway through he was likely the village leader/seer and tried to back off without drawing any attention.

Other than that I was wrong about a ton of things. Font being the main one. Also I cleared Abe after pushing him day 2.

Ironic that the duke saved one wolf over another as well, and we actually had two wolves up day 2. This was the best played village game I can remember.

Telle played brilliantly. I had no idea she was the neutral.

Wow... I am totally not up to speed since I've been busy having to attend to a family matter, but I just got an email that I had a PM saying that someone tried to night kill me and I killed that person instead. And now it looks like that was the last wolf so the village won and I made it to the end so I won too! Whoo-hoo! :)

I can't believe we had them both nailed D2 (eventually, after moving off font).

Yeah, the safe kill was cheekimonk, and he was my backup order in case something randomly happened to Telle, but I knew that I couldn;t let Burns remain around for too much longer, so I was Burns hunting, knowing I could hit the crazy gun nut (that's teh name of "kill someone that targets me" role generally)

Presumably it was Telle hence the death of Abe

Yes, I read that he was duking it away from Abe, oh, but to the other wolf so it's all good. :)

Ok so I haven't read anything except these last few finale posts since I left work at 4 today... I had made that comment about how I'm likely the night kill because I assumed I would be the night kill, and I was hoping that by saying that out loud like that the remaining wolf would avoid me in order to make me look guilty for spouting something like that and thus I would get to live longer and hopefully make it to the end for my win...

Sooooo... how did that all go down in-thread? Of course, I will go back and read when I have a chance.