I think I have some time this morning... I'll try to prepare a list of colonists (+1) and their associated strengths/weaknesses.

Note: Cannot expose actual numbers... it may or may not be allowed to list each skill and enough "information" for us to guess the number. For the sake of game play we should provide information in a format that may mimic actual real life (i.e. I have never been to a gym in my life so my physical level is presumed to be...).

So are we assuming the stowaway is suicidal? If we can't survive, the stowaway cannot either.

As you evaluate Shoveler for which attributes he brings to the table, this is what you see (minus the badge that was denied to him):

Can I change my vote!

A past-it wrestler?

An internet-based game of co-operation played by 22 independent-minded people with conflciting schedules. I can't imagine anything can go wrong.

Initial list... reformat as necessary.


Science
timmae – SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), ENGINEERING (GOOD), PHYSICAL (AWFUL) studied science his whole life, "engineering type"
Raven – SCIENTIFIC (GOOD) farmer. strong science background.
Narcizo – SOCIAL (GREAT), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BAD) chemist. bit of experience running small scale facility

Doctor
Autumn – MEDICAL (GREAT) doctor and chief of staff at Boston general
Chief Rum – MEDICAL (GREAT) worked in ER (is a doctor or a nurse? never said which)
ntndeacon – MEDICAL (GREAT), ENGINEERING (BAD) EMT, but not a doctor

Sheriff
bitrock – PHYSICAL (GREAT) SOCIAL (GOOD) ENGINEERING (AWFUL) police officer. record isn't perfect, and physical capability can sometimes cloud higher-order processes.
thomkal - retired Army general. primary concerns safety-both a physical sense-a sheriff chosen and patroling the immediate area. for democracy.
shoveler - Private investigator (objective - identify stowaway)
JAG – PHYSICAL (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD), highschool football coach. experience leading and training

Engineer
Jackal – ENGINEERING (GOOD?) MIT Prof of Engineering
Grover – ENGINEERING (GOOD), SCIENTIFIC(GOOD), 2 yrs as engineer on ISS. prof. astronaut, enginer and scientist by trade. leader of ISS mission. has lived in space
saldana – ENGINEERING (GOOD) city planner
GoldenEagle – SCIENTIFIC (GOOD?) computer programmer, proposes deep analysis for scientific purposes

Leader
DanGarion – SOCIAL (GREAT) PHYSICAL (GOOD) ENGINEERING (OK) lead large group of succ. people. "well liked", Democratic (ambigous history)
fontisian – SOCIAL (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (GOOD), college history professor
Zinto - CEO
Suicane - retired politician with history of public service
Crimsonfox – PHYSICAL (GOOD?) automechanic. enjoys moonbuggies and likes to change his vote frequently

Unknown
Schmidty
Danny ENGINEERING (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), MEIDCAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BAD), SOCIAL (BAD)
SharnK20, SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD)

The extra doctor vote looks like it was a mistake as the two next to the no votes was there before the end of day tally. (post #619). The leadership mismatch appeared in the end of the day tally and not before so it could be relevant.

EagleFan - are the end of day tallies in #639 accurate.

We also need to collect supplies in order to have food. Rick Flair, Brit, Jag and Crim are capable of physical tasks. Should 3 build the dome and the other gather supplies?

See EF's note in post #643. We need to research this further!

My ranks should be 1) Scientific, 2) Social, 3) Medical.
Given what you've said I presume we're equal at science. And physical.

The extra doctor vote was likely an error in tally as Shoveler had a no vote and Schmidty didn't vote but wasn't listed. I think EF just listed 2 No Votes.

However, can we conclude the missing vote is the same individual that contacted Brit to sabotage the equipment. The stowaway that doesn't want earth to make his presence known? I think we need to take a hard look at the following group of 7, one of which had a vote dropped in the leader category.

DanGarion 6 - DanGarion (296), Grover (307), Narcizo (464), Sharkn20 (489). Chief Rum (514), CrimsonFox (611), Shoveler (613)

Was DanGarion being coy about bringing it up to EF. I don't think so.. maybe we can dismiss him?

I thought about that as well but why would the stowaway's vote count in all the other votes but not the leadership vote? It seems, at least, as likely that someone influenced the vote to make it look dodgy and cause suspicion. Or Fonti's high social ability gave her a one-vote advantage. Or any one of a thousand possible explanations. I agree that its a data point that should be kept in mind though.

My guess is that whomever dropped the vote was able to only have that dropped vote affect one position.

Gathering supplies seems like it would be a mundane task that wouldn't require any specific skill strength. I could be wrong, but that is my initial interpretation of the task.

As for completing the biodome, I am still thinking engineering is for planning a project and physical would be used to do the actual construction. I'll admit I may be wrong with how EF is intending the skills to be utilized, but unless we get a clarification I'm really unsure how we should proceed.

Medical seems pretty straight-forward. Put people that can actually help our wounded fella in place to do that job.

As for the subsequent project or supply run. I am currently impartial to this area, however, if we choose to start another project this might be where our engineers are needed (see above, I could be wrong here). What exactly are we collecting for supplies anyhow? Martian rocks? Or was it implied that we are gathering supplies from the landing craft and bringing them to the biodome?

JAG, The offer came to me from EF ~24 hours before the end of D0 last night. I could have sabotaged the radio (hmm...) to prevent the rest of the crew from asking about my background.

Autumn, I've alluded to the reputational issues before... I was a very capable police officer, but perhaps too eager in applying my physicality. In response to the offer, I decided I would be forthright about it here. I refused the offer and did not lose my vote for sheriff.

Timmae, it was EF that made the offer, not a fellow crewmember. But what this vote total likely indicates is that someone with aspirations to be the crew leader was willing to sabotage our communications to try to cement his status and reputation. And, looking at the list, DanGarion seems the likeliest person to have done that.

But DG lost a vote... meaning he didn't take the offer?

Based on your additional information I almost think someone else took the offer and their vote strength was helped by docking DG a vote. Or am I way off base? Where's our sherriff anyways... off in sume dune buggy eating bananas? :)

You are assuming the same offer was made to others, which in this situation seems to obvious. If in this instance you are correct, why would DanGarion continue to hide behind his vague background description knowing full well that he was about to destroy the communication equipment? He had a healthy vote lead going into the end of day 0 and may have been able to lock it down by just making up a background we would support, again knowing we wouldn't be able to verify it as he was about to destroy the comm unit.

To make this assertion, we would have to assume that 1. He didn't want to win the leadership role, and 2. He absolutely had to protect his background.

Not seeing the connection here.

font, i cannot stress enough that it should be me...i doubt there is anyone better at engineering than i am...my secondary skill is social

How do we know this wasn't an offer than fontisian got to cement her status as leader and knock out the communications? I don't think DG would openly complain when it's clear he noticed one of the votes for him didn't count.

That's too obvious to me.

I think that all of us trying to become the leader need to be watched more closely. Making sure we are with multiple more trusted people on all our jobs could be a start.

Just a quick check in, as I am extremely busy in the office this morning. I read up some last night, but morning posts up to now, I won't have read.

First off, thanks for believing in me for the doctor role, and I hope Autumn and ntndeacon will work with me to keep us in tip top shape.

I believe three can work on Schmidty, correct? It only stands to reason that ntndeacon, myself and Autumn should do that.

I would, given Schmidty's injuries, want to reiterate how incredibly important a medical facility is. I'll restate what I said yesterday. We have health ratings. Everyone knows that. We now have evidence that low health can eliminate a person from working. We know we will see attacks or sabotage of some sort, and will see deteriorating health.

All the research and engineering projects in the world won't do a thing if we're all dead or dying.

I believe everyone who isn't assigned to fixing Schmidty or making the dome will gather supplies or try to build the other facility, whichever is decided. I think supply-gathering is probably mostly physical and building the facility is engineering.

Agreed that every colonists we have will be crucial to our survival. Especially with the screaming in the distance we have no idea how many will be hurt or killed and at what rate. Food first, medical next I think. This will keep the most bodies available for whatever tasks may enter in.

Vote Medical Facility

After that I think a scientific research facility is a must as we need to learn more about this planet. Simply fumbling around with earth based ideas and understanding will not help any trade up here on Mars.

I just wanted to be the leader. There is no hiding that truth. No back room deals I was involved in.

You may be right. I might be trying to apply common sense to these tasks rather than game mechanics. A bunch of weakling engineers aren't going to be constructing anything. They must have some sort of automated assistance, did we bring along construction robots? Uh oh.. better not let the controls for those things get into the wrong hands.

Unless of course we are constructing a biodome canvas tent. If that is the case, our engineers can have at arts and crafts time all they want.

Hello all on our first day on Mars! I just wanted to thank all of you who believed in me enough to entrust your safety to me. I will do all I can to do just that-keep you safe. Congrats to all the others leaders as well, especially (President?) Fontisian. All our welcome to offer security suggestions, especially those with law enforcement/military backgrounds.

As for my skills, per Timmae's (thanks for keeping track of that!) rating system. Social-GREAT, Physical-GREAT, Medical-LOW, others-BAD.

Going through the night posts now to respond to Autumn and others

Vote Scientific Research Center

Despite the injury to Schmidty, I think we can keep him safe with our medical know-how. As I said yesterday, I wanted the SRC after we got the biodome moving. I would like to continue trending in that direction. Like timmae says, we need to know as much as possible about our alien landscape.

If you want to waste the sheriff's time you can have him check me out but honestly I think I was clear of my intentions from the start. I think we need to check out the people that voted for Font. How was she able to get one of my votes to not count?

Honestly I just thought it is weird that my vote had shown 7 on vote 618 and then all of the sudden the votes were over and I lost a vote without any votes being changed. :(

You're right, top priority.

EF, can you confirm what our voting options are today? Is this a choice between a. Gathering supplies or b. Working on a new building or c. Fixing the communicator? If fixing the communicator is a separate project, is there a limit to how many people can be assigned to this task?

For fixing the communicator, that seems like an engineering task, so if we're assigning people to that, I think that should be the priority stat, which will make it tough since they're needed for the biodome too.

My engineering skill is, obviously, my most prized asset. I'll warn you that a lifetime in the classroom and buried in books has left me with less than ideal stamina and strength, however. I do believe I should be involved, however asking me to do the labor side of it would likely not end well.

My secondary skill is science, so I'd put myself in the running to work on communications if we feel confident in the group of 3 for the biodome needing physical assets.

Congrats again! My thoughts on who should work on the biodome are one each highly rated in Science, Engineering, and Physical-we don't know what it will require, only guess, and these seem to be the best skills for that task. Engineering I wager is the most important skill.

Chief Rum seems to have the medical situation well in hand with the right three people involved. We won't be getting replacements from Earth any time soon, so bodies, healthy, being able to work bodies, are our most precious commodity right now, so we need every last one.

As for supplies/food gathering, I am of the thought that we can survive, perhaps with rationing for a day or two. Note in EF's post about that he used the word "may" not definitely will lose health.

Fontisian (LEADER) – SOCIAL (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (GOOD), college history professor
DanGarion – SOCIAL (GREAT) PHYSICAL (GOOD) ENGINEERING (OK) lead large group of succ. people. "well liked", Democratic (ambigous history)
Zinto - CEO
Suicane - retired politician with history of public service
Crimsonfox – PHYSICAL (GOOD?) automechanic. enjoys moonbuggies and likes to change his vote frequently

timmae (PRIMARY SCIENTIST) – SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), ENGINEERING (GOOD), PHYSICAL (AWFUL) studied science his whole life, "engineering type"
Raven – SCIENTIFIC (GOOD) farmer. strong science background.
Narcizo – SOCIAL (GREAT), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BAD) chemist. bit of experience running small scale facility
SharnK20, SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD)
GoldenEagle – SCIENTIFIC (GOOD?) computer programmer, proposes deep analysis for scientific purposes

Autumn – MEDICAL (GREAT) doctor and chief of staff at Boston general
Chief Rum (PRIMARY DOCTOR) – MEDICAL (GREAT) worked in ER (is a doctor or a nurse? never said which)
ntndeacon – MEDICAL (GREAT), ENGINEERING (BAD) EMT, but not a doctor

bitrock – PHYSICAL (GREAT) SOCIAL (GOOD) ENGINEERING (AWFUL) police officer. record isn't perfect, and physical capability can sometimes cloud higher-order processes.
thomkal (SHERRIFF) – SOCIAL (GREAT), PHYSICAL (GREAT), MEDICAL (LOW), ENGINEERING (BAD), SCIENTIFIC (BAD)retired Army general. primary concerns safety-both a physical sense-a sheriff chosen and patroling the immediate area. for democracy.
shoveler - Private investigator (objective - identify stowaway)
JAG – PHYSICAL (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD), highschool football coach. experience leading and training

Jackal – ENGINEERING (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BAD) MIT Prof of Engineering
Grover (PRIMARY ENGINEER) – ENGINEERING (GOOD), SCIENTIFIC(GOOD), 2 yrs as engineer on ISS. prof. astronaut, enginer and scientist by trade. leader of ISS mission. has lived in space
saldana – ENGINEERING (GOOD) city planner
Danny ENGINEERING (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BAD), SOCIAL (BAD)

Schmidty

man that formatting need work... any of you engineers have IT experience?! lol..

Hey Brit were you able to pick who lost a vote or was it set by EF?

You failed to include my attributes, please refer to post 703, you should find everything you need there.

My medical is just above my engineering. Let's just saw both are low, they aren't ok.

Fontisian (LEADER) – SOCIAL (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (GOOD), college history professor
DanGarion – SOCIAL (GREAT) PHYSICAL (GOOD) ENGINEERING (OK) lead large group of succ. people. "well liked", Democratic (ambigous history)
Zinto - CEO
Suicane - retired politician with history of public service
Crimsonfox – PHYSICAL (GOOD?) automechanic. enjoys moonbuggies and likes to change his vote frequently
timmae (PRIMARY SCIENTIST) – SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), ENGINEERING (GOOD), PHYSICAL (AWFUL) studied science his whole life, "engineering type"
Raven – SCIENTIFIC (GOOD) farmer. strong science background.
Narcizo – SOCIAL (GREAT), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BAD) chemist. bit of experience running small scale facility
SharnK20, SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD)
GoldenEagle – SCIENTIFIC (GOOD?) computer programmer, proposes deep analysis for scientific purposes
Autumn – MEDICAL (GREAT) doctor and chief of staff at Boston general
Chief Rum (PRIMARY DOCTOR) – MEDICAL (GREAT) worked in ER (is a doctor or a nurse? never said which)
ntndeacon – MEDICAL (GREAT), ENGINEERING (BAD) EMT, but not a doctor
bitrock – PHYSICAL (GREAT) SOCIAL (GOOD) ENGINEERING (AWFUL) police officer. record isn't perfect, and physical capability can sometimes cloud higher-order processes.
thomkal (SHERRIFF) – SOCIAL (GREAT), PHYSICAL (GREAT), MEDICAL (LOW), ENGINEERING (BAD), SCIENTIFIC (BAD)retired Army general. primary concerns safety-both a physical sense-a sheriff chosen and patroling the immediate area. for democracy.
shoveler - Private investigator (objective - identify stowaway)
JAG – PHYSICAL (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD), highschool football coach. experience leading and training
Jackal – ENGINEERING (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BAD) MIT Prof of Engineering
Grover (PRIMARY ENGINEER) – ENGINEERING (GOOD), SCIENTIFIC(GOOD), 2 yrs as engineer on ISS. prof. astronaut, enginer and scientist by trade. leader of ISS mission. has lived in space
saldana – ENGINEERING (GOOD) city planner
Danny ENGINEERING (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BAD), SOCIAL (BAD)
Schmidty

Thank you for reporting this britrock, makes me feel safer about you. I would like to invite yourself, Shoveler, and JAG to become part of the security staff. Not an official game title or anything, just people that I can count on to help keep us safe. Anyone else with law enforcemen/military skills are welcome to "apply" as well.

I wonder britrock if you have any leads on who our troublemaker might be? And if any of you three have any items and/or abilities that I should know about? Alas I do not. Finally I have not gained any ability or order I can give you via my sheriff role (yet), so you might check with the GM to see if there's anything you can do along those lines.

ok, 80's watch, 90's shades, gray hairs starting in the beard, hot chicks/grandma's/little girls hide when they see you... got it.

I was going to suggest this. If your physical skills are lacking, would we be better off using you to work on the communicator?

Pretty close. We'll go with the following:

Hair: Fabulous
Muscle Mass: Buff
Beard: Unkempt

I too was going to urge government over research or medical facility, but I have a new concern since I am sheriff-security. EF has not mentioned to me that such a facility exists for us to build, but if one does, it would give us a jail, ways of tracking people, and perhaps weapons? I'm not sure we can go out and explore the screaming we heard unless we have some way of defending and attacking if need be. Thoughts?

We definitely should fix the comms sooner rather than later.

see above. Right now there is little I can offer for finding or dealing with the stowaway. Just warn everyone to be vigilant of those working or walking around them and report any suspicions to me ASAP. Hence my thoughts on why I think we may need to build a security station if such a thing exists. And to fix communications as soon as possible too.

Sharkn you will need to bold your vote if you want it to be official

Me either! :D

If we think engineering will be vital to it, I'd say yes.

Also, I believe Golden Eagle said he was a computer programmer. He could be the right guy for fixing the communications system.

The last I think, including any supplies nearby from the first mission?

Sending folks out to the previous wreckage site seems careless at this point. Lets get the Biodome finished and start a subsequent project. We don't know that our communication system was disabled intentionally, it could have been damaged during the rough landing. We may have reason to believe otherwise, but no proof at this point.

As much as I would agree that a government building would be nice, at this point there really isn't a reason to prioritize that over science or medical.

Of course, I have been approaching this game from the viewpoint of my character while I notice some people are already planning for when everything goes wrong. I'm not sure which way we are expected to participate, at this point in the mission we wouldn't have any reason to suspect any immediate dangers outside of those related to surviving on Mars.

If we take the "game-knowledge" approach then we should probably look at the science facility or medical center second.

If we take the "we know how this goes" approach, then the government facility becomes a priority in my mind.

Someone may want to correct me on how to approach this game so I don't cause confusion.

Life.


Yes.


As font mentioned. She can decide who will work on biodome and Schmidty. If not, the group needs to decide.

What definitely needs a vote is what to work on next and if you will collect supplies or focus on next build (automatically giving you what you vote to build today but at the cost of food for two days).


Will be online later. Been a rough night, having a couple issues at home with a sick daughter and an issue myself.

I can also help with Physical tasks. I'm not in football shape, like Coach over there...but as a farmer, I am pretty active and certainly stronger than most of you. I don't get to the gym, but I spent a lot of time chopping wood, lugging around heavy equipment and reaping what I sow.

Hope everyone feels better quickly EF!

I've had some clarification from mod about my security station question, so I will:

vote government facilities

I definitely think research/med center are important, but we may be needing a way to protect/investigate sooner rather than later.

Off for a bit.

Fontisian (LEADER) – SOCIAL (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (GOOD), college history professor
DanGarion – SOCIAL (GREAT) PHYSICAL (GOOD) MEDICAL (BAD), ENGINEERING (BAD) lead large group of succ. people. "well liked", Democratic
Zinto - CEO
Suicane - retired politician with history of public service
Crimsonfox – PHYSICAL (GOOD?) automechanic
timmae (PRIMARY SCIENTIST) – SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), ENGINEERING (GOOD), PHYSICAL (AWFUL) studied science his whole life, "engineering type"
Raven – SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), PHYSICAL (GOOD) farmer. strong science background.
Narcizo – SOCIAL (GREAT), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BAD) chemist. bit of experience running small scale facility
SharnK20, SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD)
GoldenEagle – SCIENTIFIC (GOOD?) computer programmer, proposes deep analysis for scientific purposes
Autumn – MEDICAL (GREAT) doctor and chief of staff at Boston general
Chief Rum (PRIMARY DOCTOR) – MEDICAL (GREAT) worked in ER
ntndeacon – MEDICAL (GREAT), ENGINEERING (BAD) EMT, but not a doctor
bitrock – PHYSICAL (GREAT) SOCIAL (GOOD) ENGINEERING (AWFUL) police officer. record isn't perfect, and physical capability can sometimes cloud higher-order processes.
thomkal (SHERRIFF) – SOCIAL (GREAT), PHYSICAL (GREAT), MEDICAL (LOW), ENGINEERING (BAD), SCIENTIFIC (BAD)retired Army general. primary concerns safety
shoveler - Private investigator
JAG – PHYSICAL (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD), highschool football coach. experience leading and training
Jackal – ENGINEERING (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BAD) MIT Prof of Engineering
Grover (PRIMARY ENGINEER) – ENGINEERING (GOOD), SCIENTIFIC(GOOD), 2 yrs as engineer on ISS. prof. astronaut, enginer and scientist by trade. leader of ISS mission. has lived in space
saldana – ENGINEERING (GOOD) city planner
Danny ENGINEERING (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BAD), SOCIAL (BAD)
Schmidty

Can you please explain how the option to fix the communication fits in with this?

A.Is this something we can assign any people we want to it or is there a limit?
B. Does assigning people to fixing the communicator prevent us from doing some other task (like we can't make a new building and fix the communicator, or will it make us less efficient at a task? Or do we not know?)

Thanks, sorry for not being clear before and hope you and your daughter feel well soon.

timmae, thanks for your work on the big list. When you get a chance, you can add I am lousy at everything besides social and physical. We would be at a big disadvantage assigning me to a task in any of the other categories.

We know power and food are the two most important things. We don't know the odds of not having enough food for today and tomorrow, but its a possibility of we work on a building. We have a good chance at finishing the biodome which would probably help us handle food going forward without needing to waste time scrounging around for it. We also don't know what happens if we have food shortages, maybe some health is lost, people starve, lower efficiency at tasks? So do we take that risk for the benefit of a new building a day earlier, and additional sabotage, of people or the biodome or something that hasn't yet come up? Going for food seems like a low risk strategy, but lower reward and possibly is unnecessary and wasteful if it turns out we don't need to do it. Making a building would give our saboteur a new thing to worry about and provide some potentially nice benefits, but we run the risk of losing personnel by doing it, or weakening us for future days.

Based on Thomkal's statement from above, I'm tempted to go government because it will potentially give us options for defending ourselves and offensively gathering intel. Without those options, we may not be able to defend our structures of primary importance.

there's a chance that not collecting supplies will hurt us, but if we have a medical facility established that is less of a problem. This seems two birds with one stone.

Except you can't bandage up starvation. Also, we won't be able to use the medical facility if we don't have power. I think weneed to be able to protect our key infrastructure before we do anything else.

Vote Government

If someone has a chance, can you please put together an unofficial vote tally?

There are so many things that affect health... lack of food, disease, air quality (in enclosed spaces), attack, who knows what else. When we start having medical probalems and losing people we won't have manpower or time to build a medical facility. What are the things people need in crisis? Food. Shelter. Medical care. Government/Police. Probably in that order.

what's wrong with a giant cf? I that that'd be SWELL!

Thanks.

Vote: Scientific Research Centre

vote Scientific Sartre

vote scientific sartre

I am going to put my name in one list, seems that nobody counts on me cause I am new but... I will try anyway :)

Science
timmae – SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), ENGINEERING (GOOD), PHYSICAL (AWFUL) studied science his whole life, "engineering type"
SharnK20, SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), SOCIAL (AVERAGE), ENGINEERING (BELOW AVERAGE), PHYSICAL (AWFUL), professional gamer that used my life to develop your skills
Raven – SCIENTIFIC (GOOD) farmer. strong science background.
Narcizo – SOCIAL (GREAT), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BAD) chemist. bit of experience running small scale facility

Doctor
Autumn – MEDICAL (GREAT) doctor and chief of staff at Boston general
Chief Rum – MEDICAL (GREAT) worked in ER (is a doctor or a nurse? never said which)
ntndeacon – MEDICAL (GREAT), ENGINEERING (BAD) EMT, but not a doctor

Sheriff
bitrock – PHYSICAL (GREAT) SOCIAL (GOOD) ENGINEERING (AWFUL) police officer. record isn't perfect, and physical capability can sometimes cloud higher-order processes.
thomkal - retired Army general. primary concerns safety-both a physical sense-a sheriff chosen and patroling the immediate area. for democracy.
shoveler - Private investigator (objective - identify stowaway)
JAG – PHYSICAL (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD), highschool football coach. experience leading and training

Engineer
Jackal – ENGINEERING (GOOD?) MIT Prof of Engineering
Grover – ENGINEERING (GOOD), SCIENTIFIC(GOOD), 2 yrs as engineer on ISS. prof. astronaut, enginer and scientist by trade. leader of ISS mission. has lived in space
saldana – ENGINEERING (GOOD) city planner
GoldenEagle – SCIENTIFIC (GOOD?) computer programmer, proposes deep analysis for scientific purposes

Leader
DanGarion – SOCIAL (GREAT) PHYSICAL (GOOD) ENGINEERING (OK) lead large group of succ. people. "well liked", Democratic (ambigous history)
fontisian – SOCIAL (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (GOOD), college history professor
Zinto - CEO
Suicane - retired politician with history of public service
Crimsonfox – PHYSICAL (GOOD?) automechanic. enjoys moonbuggies and likes to change his vote frequently

Unknown
Schmidty
Danny ENGINEERING (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), MEIDCAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BAD), SOCIAL (BAD)

Updated the most recent list with Shark's info...

Fontisian (LEADER) – SOCIAL (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (GOOD), college history professor
DanGarion – SOCIAL (GREAT) PHYSICAL (GOOD) MEDICAL (BAD), ENGINEERING (BAD) lead large group of succ. people. "well liked", Democratic
Zinto - CEO
Suicane - retired politician with history of public service
Crimsonfox – PHYSICAL (GOOD?) automechanic
timmae (PRIMARY SCIENTIST) – SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), ENGINEERING (GOOD), PHYSICAL (AWFUL) studied science his whole life, "engineering type"
Raven – SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), PHYSICAL (GOOD) farmer. strong science background.
Narcizo – SOCIAL (GREAT), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BAD) chemist. bit of experience running small scale facility
SharkN20, SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD)ENGINEERING (BAD), PHYSICAL (AWFUL), professional gamer that used my life to develop your skills
GoldenEagle – SCIENTIFIC (GOOD?) computer programmer, proposes deep analysis for scientific purposes
Autumn – MEDICAL (GREAT) doctor and chief of staff at Boston general
Chief Rum (PRIMARY DOCTOR) – MEDICAL (GREAT) worked in ER
ntndeacon – MEDICAL (GREAT), ENGINEERING (BAD) EMT, but not a doctor
bitrock – PHYSICAL (GREAT) SOCIAL (GOOD) ENGINEERING (AWFUL) police officer. record isn't perfect, and physical capability can sometimes cloud higher-order processes.
thomkal (SHERRIFF) – SOCIAL (GREAT), PHYSICAL (GREAT), MEDICAL (LOW), ENGINEERING (BAD), SCIENTIFIC (BAD)retired Army general. primary concerns safety
shoveler - Private investigator
JAG – PHYSICAL (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD), highschool football coach. experience leading and training
Jackal – ENGINEERING (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BAD) MIT Prof of Engineering
Grover (PRIMARY ENGINEER) – ENGINEERING (GOOD), SCIENTIFIC(GOOD), 2 yrs as engineer on ISS. prof. astronaut, enginer and scientist by trade. leader of ISS mission. has lived in space
saldana – ENGINEERING (GOOD) city planner
Danny ENGINEERING (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BAD), SOCIAL (BAD)
Schmidty

I suppose I could work on it. If anyone can fix it around here, it is probably me.

My engineering is not bad, is below average :popcorn:

I can help as well

timmae, you can update and say that my physical is average.

How are we defining these ranges we're putting up. Or what designations are we using, and I will just figure it out from a range breakdown I'll put together off screen.

Debatable at this point, I would guess that starvation lowers health and medics raise it, but we don't know.

So your thinking is that government will allow us a security force of some kind?

for whoever is updating this table, here is how i would portray myself

saldana – ENGINEERING (GREAT),SOCIAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (OK), MEDICAL (BAD), SCIENTIFIC (BAD)city planner

Thanks fellas... I'll use "below average" in lieu of "bad" for all. I can also update info for those that do not have anything listed as well. I apologize if I missed a post here or there. That list is:

Zinto
Suicane
Schmidty

It can be descriptive attributes that I can then assume certain classification on if you like. EF has put the kibosh on this list so I assume what we've done thus far is within the rules of the game.

Yeah, my Medical and Engineering are below average, my only BAD/Awful is Science!

social is my highest, science is my lowest. others in between

For sake of what I know thus far...

Great 8-10+
Good 5-7
Bad (now to be Below Average)2-4
Awful 0-2

I can tweak or add to this as possible. Also if someone else obtains pleasure form this sort of task I am fine with having others take ownership. Either way is cool with me.

shoot... Bad could be 3-4. I can include an ok for 5 but that seems redundant. We really just need to know who's great and who's awful. :)

i was told we may not reveal our numbers and doing this crosses that line I think. So we shouldn't do this.

Changed my stuff

Fontisian (LEADER) – SOCIAL (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (GOOD), college history professor
DanGarion – SOCIAL (GREAT) PHYSICAL (GOOD) MEDICAL (BAD), ENGINEERING (BAD) lead large group of succ. people. "well liked", Democratic
Zinto - CEO
Suicane - retired politician with history of public service
Crimsonfox – PHYSICAL (GOOD?) automechanic
timmae (PRIMARY SCIENTIST) – SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), ENGINEERING (GOOD), PHYSICAL (AWFUL) studied science his whole life, "engineering type"
Raven – SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), PHYSICAL (GOOD) farmer. strong science background.
Narcizo – SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), SOCIAL (OK), MEDICAL (OK) PHYSICAL (BAD) chemist. bit of experience running small scale facility
SharkN20, SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD) ENGINEERING (BAD), PHYSICAL (AWFUL), professional gamer that used my life to develop your skills
GoldenEagle – SCIENTIFIC (GOOD?) computer programmer, proposes deep analysis for scientific purposes
Autumn – MEDICAL (GREAT) doctor and chief of staff at Boston general
Chief Rum (PRIMARY DOCTOR) – MEDICAL (GREAT) worked in ER
ntndeacon – MEDICAL (GREAT), ENGINEERING (BAD) EMT, but not a doctor
bitrock – PHYSICAL (GREAT) SOCIAL (GOOD) ENGINEERING (AWFUL) police officer. record isn't perfect, and physical capability can sometimes cloud higher-order processes.
thomkal (SHERRIFF) – SOCIAL (GREAT), PHYSICAL (GREAT), MEDICAL (LOW), ENGINEERING (BAD), SCIENTIFIC (BAD)retired Army general. primary concerns safety
shoveler - Private investigator
JAG – PHYSICAL (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD), highschool football coach. experience leading and training
Jackal – ENGINEERING (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BAD) MIT Prof of Engineering
Grover (PRIMARY ENGINEER) – ENGINEERING (GOOD), SCIENTIFIC(GOOD), 2 yrs as engineer on ISS. prof. astronaut, enginer and scientist by trade. leader of ISS mission. has lived in space
saldana – ENGINEERING (GOOD) city planner
Danny ENGINEERING (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BAD), SOCIAL (BAD)
Schmidty

This isn't Nam. There are rules, Smokey.

Dude...

What's a pederast, Walter?

That would be your project for the day. Instead of building a facility or government you would fix the communication.

No numbers being shared so that is a plus. It may be counter-productive to share some of this information to others though... When someone knows your weakness, they may have an advantage on you...

Unless you think everyone can be trusted....

Cue evil laughter...

Of course we don't know who is telling the truth and who is lying...

I think this is pushing the boundaries of the rules a bit. While saying great/good/bad/awful is probably fine, I'm not sure we should be publicly assigning a numeric value to each.

I would advise against going down this path. Strongly. Not only for rules but for game balance and role playing. Some of these roles think they are better than they really are... ego is a b*tch...

So how valuable is fixing the communication with back home? That's a bit of a wild card, though we're told it's important.

Autumn, this is the post from Thomkal where he suggests some possibilities we may have with a govt center.