Digamma's post describing what he's done:
http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~fof/foru...&postcount=617

Wednesday, I can't emphasize this enough. You should believe Swaggs. You should believe Fouts.

I have no firsthand knowledge of Neon, but I'm choosing to trust them.

I do have knowledge about hoops and Raiders, and you can read those posts above.

A vote for Fouts would be a mistake.

Qwik, what can you tell us about Coffee Warlord?

The one addendum/edit I can make to that is that I inadvertantly left kingfc off my list at the end. I'm now pretty confident he is the one additional alien we have to worry about.

Yea, ask Qwik. The guy who was converted last night because if he wasn't he would have the same scan ability he had after night 1. Just like I was able to scan again today.

If you are human. I am the last one you want to kill, especially if CW was a bodyguard like he claims.

So these scans - do you send them to the same person or distribute the wealth?

Swaggs, if you had received a scan earlier from Digamma and then last night sent you one condemning me I would strongly urge you to evaluate the possibility that Digamma was turned last night and the aliens are counting on your support today because of these scan results.

Read my earlier post. I explained exactly who I've sent the scans to, save for the one last night.

Ok..

Coffee Warlord's room is decorated with military memorabilia. There's a neat and tidy locker and bed. There are some weights and soldier of fortune magazines. Curiously you find a cache of small weapons behind a cubbyhole.

Your verdict: Human.. some kind of solidier, you just do not know what exactly.

That's going to leave a mark.

hoopsguy, thanks for the advice, I considered that all day, up until I voted. I'm not positive about anything, but I think the words/actions of you, Raiders Army, Neon Chaos, and now kingfc22 have already told the story. I feel pretty confident that you four are the remaining aliens/converts.

I am most certain about you, in fact, but I believe killing Neon Chaos will prevent more of us from being converted. I've decided to vote for him because I think it may be possible that, once he is killed, the two of you (king and hoops) will either be released or die. That is probably too much to hope for, though.

Thanks for link, Wednesday. Sorry I missed some details earlier.

Digamma, I don't see anything there that changes my mind about you being the convert last night. I only wish that one of the people you had sent the scans to earlier could collaborate with Swaggs. Unfortunately those people are dead ...

Yes, Fouts is lying, but Digamma was not converted last night. Post #634. I scanned him, hoop's and vince. None showed up as a Chyrssalid.

With that said, I think Digamma has been lying all along. He conviently scanned CW on night 0. Didn't mention and then describes CW on post #617 AFTER CW claimed his role in post #532. Did any humans even have any actions on night 0? Night 1 Peregrine and CW were involved. Both are dead. Night 2, he "scanned" Raiders and shared it with CW again. CW the only one who could vouch for this is dead. Night 3, he "scanned" Hoops guy and says he was converted while I'm saying he wasn't. Digamma will not say who he sent this info to either.

Fouts says he was a slave, spy and then who knows what he will come up with next. Digamma supports Fouts.

Both are ALIENS!!! Come on people. Vote off Fouts tonight.

Even if you do not believe me or Digamma, Qwikshot has verified that Coffee Warlord was a soldier. Coffee Warlord advised us against, and even tried to kill Neon Chaos yesterday before he was zapped.

I would urge you to vote for Neon Chaos today, as it may be your only chance to be released from his powers.

You didn't read closely enough. The Raiders info was sent to Peregrine the night he was killed. Very inconvenient for me, but very well played by the aliens.

I think it's fairly clear who I sent my scan result to last night.

I'm not opposed to taking out Neon if people have compelling evidence to think he is the Chryssalid. But I haven't heard anything of the sort up until now.

The only evidence against him so far is:
1.) Fouts
2.) The fact that he is still alive after Coffee, Blade, and Peregrein are dead

Am I missing anything here? Any scans?

Qwik, did you pick up anything else in CWs room that would help target the aliens?

I find it interesting how the aliens work. Swaggs conviently asks what Qwik saw in CW's room. Qwik gives the company line about how he was a soldier, blah blah blah.


The aliens wanted us to kill Neon because he was innocent. But the way it played out losing CW was not a total loss because they figured we'd just kill off Neon today. And with CW claiming he was a human showing up as an ecto as a last ditch strategy keeps us on our toes. So he dies and the ecto count falls to 3. They convert a human and the ecto count goes back up to 4. Why not convert Qwik who everyone knows is a good guy and will believe him.

Then Swaggs on post #714 says if you don't believe myself (swaggs), digamma, then you should belive Qwik. Interesting that he left Fouts off this list as to not draw any more attention to the fact that he is aligned with them.

We know that someone was converted on night 1.
We know that Blade was an alien who bled black and was killed on day 2.
I have every reason to believe that Blade was an original baddie, combining Qwik's info from Qwik the other source that posted in this thread, along with Blade's careless comments in another thread on this board (which are admittedly a little less conclusive, since they could have only been referring to day two).
I'm told that the Chryssalids in X-COM are black.
Blade bled black.
CW claimed that Blade was not the master Chryssalid, and used that to conclude that Qwik's scan pointed to Neon_Chaos.
CW claimed to be a human with an alien taint that was picked up by the scanners.
Qwik's reported results from investigating CW's room are consistent with this claim, but we don't know if Qwik was converted overnight (given his known role, it would have been an obvious choice).
Several people today have been trying to bandwagon us onto Neon_Chaos, although I'm not sure how many of them have actually cast a vote for him.

Wednesday, I believe the vote stands 5-4 right now, with all votes in but Jeeber and Qwik.

Everyone has voted who has made an accusation.

I really figured that converting Qwik was too obvious - thought they would go with someone else. This is the first time in the game that I've felt like my head was spinning. Up until now I've felt like I was able to hone in on one or two bad guys - but the remaining ones have gotten a lot more deceptive today in pulling people along for the ride. Whoever they converted last night must have really helped to close ranks.

I think we made a mistake in killing CW last night, and I haven't been able to decipher shit today. There's so much conflicting info...

Therefore, I have to go with what now seems like good info from Qwik last night.

Vote Neon Chaos

Hopefully this is the right guy to go after and I come home tonight to a dead alien...

DAY 4
Raiders - Fouts
Raiders - UNVOTE Fouts (0)
Digamma - Hoops
Neon - Fouts (1)
Hoops - Fouts (2)
Vince - Neon
King - Raiders
Fouts - Neon (2)
King - UNVOTE Raiders
Digamma - UNVOTE Hoops
Digamma - Neon (3)
King - Fouts (3)
Swaggs - Neon (4)
Mr. W - Fouts (4)

I must have missed one, because right now I have a 4 - 4 tie.

Camp Fouts:
Me
kingfc22
hoopsguy
Neon_Chaos

Camp Neon_Chaos:
Swaggs
Digamma
Fouts
Vince

Oops, add Jeebs to the top of camp Neon_Chaos.

Jeeber just voted and now it's 5-4

Raider's if you vote Fouts...Qwik is the decider. That should make things a lot clearer after today.

If we lynch Fouts and he is an alien. This game is over as we having a clear pecking order (Digamma, Swaggs, Qwik).

or Digamma, Swaggs, Jeebs

Okay, after seeing all of this, I'm still not sure of the troika of me, hoops, and Neon. I'm sure that at least one is an alien (odds are), but I'm almost sure that kingfc22 is not an alien.

Here's the twist and why I've held off voting: Why vote with the trifecta of hoops and Neon? If I think one of them may be an alien (converted or not), then why would they vote for Fouts, whom I suspect as well? Is it a plan within a plan? With the votes so close right now, I'm going with my gut.

Vote Fouts

I will check in right before I leave for my meeting, but digamma and Fouts are pushing too hard for Neon. Vince is now a suspect in my mind, but he may have been duped. I'm just not sure because the lines have been drawn.

Raiders is either voting Fouts or we are going to see some last hour switching going around here - neither one will surprise me.

I like to do this because at least Qwik (the most logical choice) will make the decision to do the killing. How apropos.

RA, what is your reasoning for voting for not voting for Neon Chaos? Based on what Coffee Warlord told us and what Qwik told us (both about the three potential Chrysallids (sp?) and about Coffee Warlord's room last night)?

I am least certain about your status as an alien, but so far the voting (other than Mr. Wednesday) is falling just as I suspected it would--the aliens are voting as a bloc.

I thought I sort of made it clear. dig and Fouts are pushing too hard...also, I heard them talking last night in a "strange language". While I couldn't scan either, it would seem as if they are aliens.

Then again, maybe I'm too paranoid. That's what happened yesterday with Coffee, so is this the same mistake? I just have a bad feeling about how quickly Fouts came with this information and a "voting bloc", which is one of the reasons why I just want to vote for someone entirely different. But at least this way, there is a decision tonight and Qwik will make it.

Hrm. Seems as if I don't have to work until 5. Ah well -- never hurts to be 4 hours early on your first day back :)

What if I tell you that I have scanned them and can vouch for them? I have also scanned hoopsguy and know that he was an X-COM Agent when he entered the base, but he has no prior memory from anything prior to night 1.

If you trust me on this one, I will scan you tonight and clear you.

Trying to keep score here...

• You think that one of you, hoops and Neon are an alien. (Still not sure why you keep grouping yourself in with the 'think they're an alien' thing).
  
• This group of people, whom you think has at least one alien, are all voting for someone.
  
• You are going to wilingly vote for someone that you think an alien is voting for.
  
• You also think that I am suspicious because...well, I don't know why. You didn't really say. I mean, I'm voting for someone you think could be an alien...

RA, what is going on?

Update to my list

Mr. W - human
King - human
Hoops - human
Raider's - human
Jeeber - confused human
Vince - confused human

digamma - alien
fouts - alien
Swaggs- alien
Qwik - possible convert


Neon - too easy of a target


This is how I break it down.

Cool, I've made the 'good guys' list.

What does 'too easy of a target' mean? That he can't be an alien because he's too obvious a choice?

It looks like a stand-off until we get Qwik's vote.

Wednesday or Raiders, anything we can do to convince you? The other three seem pretty set in their ways.

outside of Qwikshot, Mr. W seems to be the other 'floater' with me. The three of us aren't really part of either group (though I've allied myself with digamma and co. based upon my vote).

I'd say something to try to convince him, but I've done about all I can. I just want to reiterate that I am basing my vote on NOTHING that has transpired today.

Vince

Just a gut feeling along with digamma and fouts pushing WAY too hard for him. That is also why I added Swaggs to the alien list.

Right now, I don't believe CW's conclusion yesterday. I've been through my whole bit about being fairly certain that Blade was a full-time baddie, and that the only possible way to reconcile hoopsguy getting converted in night 1 with his behavior in day 2 is some sort of delayed reaction, which I don't buy. I'm getting strong vibes of the whole invented visions thing from VI that are strongest from Fouts, so that's which way I'm going right now.

I only hope that we're not getting set up with a false choice here between two good guys.

Ok.. remember: I will start tabulating votes at 7:30. I will do ONE final check at 8:00 for last minute votes, etcetera.

If it's a tie, you will know right at 8:00. If there is a majority, I will post shortly after it with the results.

Have to say, this has been absolutely NEAT. I'm enjoying this immensely. However, I'm not so sure that players appreciate the hell I've been putting them through :D

Jerk :)

Win or lose, this has been tremendous fun.

I don't think appreciate is the right word. :)

Are we still tied?

Yup. Until Qwik votes, or someone flips sides. Unless we've made a mistake in counting, but both of us that counted came up with a tie.

I'm out for an hour and a half or so. Hopefully Qwik can realize that Coffee was telling the truth and that things don't add up for hoops, Neon and king and the gang.

Wednesday, read back over everything and see if you can make sense of things.

I can only tell you that I'm absolutely certain that hoopsguy was converted. I'm trusting Fouts about Neon, but I think there's plenty of other evidence there.

What happens with a tie?

I vote Fouts

I doubt his credibility.

From the beginning:

If there is a tie, then the NEXT vote from someone who hasn't voted yet, or the next person to switch their vote.. breaks the tie.

of course, the tie is now broken. 24 minutes to go.

We're back to my basic problem... if hoops was converted in night 1, why was he still acting like an X-COM in day 2?

I don't see a whole lot of evidence about Neon. We've got Qwik fingering one of him and Blade; well, Blade turned out to be a baddie. CW was convinced that Blade wasn't the baddie that Qwik fingered... that could be true, but I'm having a hard time squaring the evidence with that, between the stated X-COM alien colors (I've been assuming that this is metadata that somebody who's been playing X-COM is expected to know) and the strong likelihood that Blade has been a baddie from the start.

Everything after that is a mass of finger-pointing that has devolved into opposing camps.

Now, do I trust Qwikshot or not? He's an obvious candidate to have been turned last night, but there are more people I question on the Neon_Chaos side than on the Fouts side, plus I don't trust Fouts myself.

Home from work - it has been pretty stressful the last couple of days fighting traffic and worrying about some bombshell emerging while I'm on the road that invalidates all of the logic behind a vote.

This is by far the most quiet we have been at this juncture - wonder what Fozzie is saving for us? He seems to delight in the late-breaking news in these games.

Swaggs and Digamma were both trying to use Quik as a reason for voting off Neon, yet Quik votes for Fouts. Hmmmm....

I am getting nervous here.

I was hoping for Qwik to confirm my thoughts here. Anything else to add before something big happens?

Just this, Swaggs - there is no way the aliens converted both Qwik and King last night. Are you sure that you aren't being steered wrong by Digamma/Fouts? I really didn't think you were with those guys, but understand why you are voting your way if you are faithfully representing it on the board.

I am certainly beginning to wonder that myself. :(

I think we should have a pretty clear direction after tonight, as long as we don't completely blow the game right now. :eek:

Although the possibility of Qwik still being in the open (but confused), and you (night 1) and king (night 3) converted remains viable -- aside from the whole behaving human on day 2 thing.

Just so you know, I am basing my decision on what I saw last night.

Mr. W. I can assure you that I was not converted, unless this happened without my knowledge. I am here to blow up aliens and save humanity.

4 minutes to go.

Are we having fun yet? :D

For better or for worse, I'm staying the course.

wed be having a lot more fun if i wasnt dead

I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum.

And I'm all out of gum.

You're Blade. You're supposed to die. :)

(Couldn't resist)

Wednesday, we have seen a lot of strange stuff so far this game. I don't know how to convince you that I have acted in our best interests every step of the way after the firestorm today. But if there were two-day conversions, then wouldn't the guy that was converted last night still be fighting his masters? Do you see anyone that fits that description when looking at the voting patterns? You seem to have the best data on that in the group.

Blade, I miss you.

tick-tock.. tick-tock.. tick-tock... BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIINNNGN! Time's up ladies and gentlemen!

Right now, I'm too fried to think about it, so I'll wait until later (assuming I survive the night). Plus, time's up.

Coffee, next game of warewolf/whatever you better sign up for...its pay back time(again, just like the other thread...god, your always watching my posts
:p )

Come on computer. Do your job.

Fouts:
Mr. Wedensday
kingfc22
hoopsguy
Neon_Chaos
Raiders Army
Qwikshot

Neon_Chaos
JeeberD
Swaggs
Digamma
Fouts
Vince

As Fouts hears the last vote against him, he sinks down to his knees, trying to keep the tears from his eyes. "I just want to live.. see my family... just wanted to live.."..

The Sonic Cannon drops out of the ceiling.. Fouts doesn't look up at the gun, even as he hears it track towards him......

That's an ominous start. :eek:

I miss yelling t you too....god you made me angry..too damn smart for your own damn good, you suspected two of us right off the bat...you jackass, your on my hate list with cw! :)

This is going to be one of those where I refresh a bunch of times before realizing it has gone onto a new page. :)

All Hell Breaks Loose.

"COMPUTER, OVERRIDE CURRENT TARGETING PARAMATERS! AUTHORIZATION CDG ALPHA 976!" Swaggs yells..

Everybody's jaws drop as the Sonic Cannon turns AWAY from Fouts.


"Override accepted. Alternate Target?" The computer states, calmly..

Swaggs points at hoopsguy, who is gawking at Swaggs. "Alternate Target is hoopsguy!"

"Affirmative. Target Acquired.."

And the Sonic Cannon turns to face hoopsguy. He starts to protest.. "But that's not FAI...."

And the SOnic Cannon fires. Sending him flying into the wall, where hoopsguy lands with a heavy thud.

There's a pause of a second or two.. then hoopsguy's whole body starts moving. Hints of something black and slimy inside starts to appear.. a black figure about half the size of Hoopsguy slithers out..

And the Sonic Cannon fires again.

This time, the creature slumps to the ground... you hear a hissing sound.. as it looks like the skin the baby creature wore is being dissolved.. from the inside.

No more then a minute later, all that's left of both hoopsguy's skin and the creature that inhabited him is a puddle of black ichor, hissing away as it attempts to eat away at the metal below.

You all thought you were immune to shocks by this point. But you're all wrong.

As you stare at the body, the computer speaks again.

"Illegal Backdoor access identified, controlling X-Com weaponry in lockdown status. Rebooting core AI personality to remove backdoor code. Estimated time of core repair: 0430 hours.

Hmmmm. Very interesting.

Blade - please be very careful with information you post - trying to keep game balance here. It would be pretty easy to re-read my posts with what you have typed to gain unfair advantage.

Well done, Swaggs.

Oh WOW!!!

Now do you guys believe me?

Now I can get back to work tomorrow :) Very fun time, all. Will keep following it from a distance.

Hmmm I don't know whether to be upset that Fouts avoided death after he fooled us in Werewolf V or happy that the good guys got one. :)

Nice save Swaggs. Of course, now I'm linked with the aliens and that sucks. :(

I pick upset, Thomkal.

"That's not fair!" is almost word for word what I said as I read it - OK, a little more profane.

Just woke up. I can't believe I skinned the cat AGAIN. I would have hoped that after yesterday I wouldn't be a target today, specially with the digamma-hoopsguy-raiders squabble.

All hells breaks loose indeed.

Glad I'm not dead though. Looks like Swaggs has the 'duke' role.

However, with hoopsguy turning out to be an alien, I'm going to be on the axe again... TOMMOROW. Great. Just great. :(

The Departed List.

Schmidty (Day 1: Group)
Blade6119 (Day 2: Group)
Peregrine (Day 2: Alien Front)
Coffee Warlord (Day 3: Group)
hoopsguy (Day 4: Blasted by Computer Override (Swaggs)

We are in night four. Actions due by 8 AM

Hmmm. Worried about tomorrow already?

What about tonight?

Hoops, Raiders, Neon and Qwik are the only ones to vote for both CW and Fouts.

What? You think the aliens are going to even touch me? I'm the easiest guy to put the blame on. :(

I'm certain they will not get you tonight.

And I agree with you. Which is why it sucks. I should have just been killed back with CW, prove myself to be human, at least I won't have to go through another day of being wrongfully accused again.

OOOOOOOkay. This was interesting. I go to my meeting

*Off-topic* Which by the way, I'm wearing a uniform that was fitted for me when I was 149 pounds, and I'm now 15 pounds heavier, so the whole thing sucked*

and hoopsguy is an alien. Weird shit. Anyhow, I'm pounding some back since I held my beer gut in for about two hours and I'll review this stuff later.

BTW, why did you want me to switch my vote Swaggs? To prove I was human or to save your special power?

Nice work, Swaggs.

Hopefully, the good guys last through the night.

Yup. :)

Just a reminder. If you leak Night Information that I've given you tonight before Morning, I will turn the base's weaponry on you :D

In case I die tonight (which would make sense since I "outted" myself), just want to review where my thoughts are for whoever is left.

These guys all voted for Neon Chaos today:
JeeberD
Swaggs
Digamma
Fouts
Vince

• I believe these five are certainly human. If they have a gut feeling, dream, or whatever, you should take it very seriously and act accordingly. If anyone has any type of protective skills, they should be used on one of the other four members.
• Fouts is an interesting character, but he has steered us correctly so far. I believe he may have selfish motives for wanting to survive, but that he certainly wants us to win, and them to be killed (so he can be released).
• Fouts gave us a list of names in a prior post. He correctly named hoopsguy (converted), and also named Raiders Army (receives images) and Neon Chaos (converter). Neon Chaos was also named on the three man list that Qwikshot gave us as a "possible" converter (Blade and Peregrine, both deceased) were also named. Since someone else has been converted since Blade's death, I think we can now safely assume that Neon Chaos is an alien.
• While I am not 100% sure of Raiders Army, his voting history, along with being on Fouts' list makes him a very good bet to be an alien.
• Through my computer hacking skills (my now, unfortunately, well known role), I knew that hoopsguy had been converted. I do not want to "out" anyone else, but at least one member of the bloc that voted against Neon Chaos is also verified to be a human.
• The group of Mr. Wednesday, kingfc22, and Qwikshot most likely contains the converted alien. Of the three, I know Mr. Wednesday was a human a few days ago. Kingfc22 appeared to be the most likely choice, but Qwikshot's odd behavior and his (to me) surprising vote (since he had been the one to give the three man list that included the converter) tonight makes me uncertain. Hopefully we will learn more about these three tomorrow.

I think that we should lynch Neon Chaos tomorrow because the pattern suggests that he may be able to convert again tomorrow night. We cannot let that happen. The results of his vote should be telling, unless the aliens are willing to sacrifice him.

After that, whoever is left, we will needs to get rid of Raiders Army, unless we find conclusive proof that he is human.

If we stay disciplined against Neon Chaos and Raiders Army and do not buy into any of their schemes, the remaining soldiers should be in excellent shape to save the world again.

Good luck fellas!