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On the last part, I did say that not everyone knows that I am not a werewolf. Obviously you fall into those that don't. |
I'm making my own shortlist of possible wolves and have it narrowed down in my mind to 4. Too bad I wasn't around when the signing up was going on, I got some good cases for all 4 of them. Would love to play this game the next time around.
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Yes, I'd say bringing this game to FOFC has been a rousing success.
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Nomyths: you do have some good points there, I think some of your actions have been suspicious, but not enough so that I feel like you need to be voted against.
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Yep I agree. I was thisclose to killing him last night, and killed an innocent villager anyway. Yay for me. |
I think NoMyths has some good points. I'd like to also point out that I was an early adopter (and advocator) of hanging Qwikshot. Our only good lynching up to this point.
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Man... I have some real strong suspicions for the other roles, but just gut feelings on the wolves.
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One other point against Desnudo. His first post in this thread occured only 6 minutes before Peregrine "found" the missing persons PM in day 1. (post 75 for Desnudos post, post 80 for Peregrine's)
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Judging by the voting coming, seems to be more than just me that don't believe you aren't a wolf... |
OK, it seems like the masses are leaning towards NTN but I'm not so sure. I still am suspiscious of eaglesfan. He was on Qwik's list and I find it hard to belive all 6 people on that list are villegars. I know I am one, so that narrows it down to 5. Combine that with the fact that Qwik voted for Eaglefan it seems obvious he is trying to mess with us.
I Vote Eaglesfan27 |
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Day 1, read the posts. Airhog voted for me, so I voted for him, it's simple. Day 2 means nothing. If you read my posts, I was looking for a reason to pick someone else, but there was no one else. Day 3 I did really think Condors was a wolf. Just like every other lynching so far, I was wrong. Day 4 I haven't voted yet. |
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He was trying to get you all to think this way and hang me, an innocent villager. Don't fall for his ploy. |
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And since I don't believe for a second that most of those who have voted for me are wolves themselves. I think that you are right... most of those voting for me believe I am a wolf, or at least evil. However they are wrong. Which looks as if will be plain soon. And another victory for the wolves will be at hand. |
Here is a list of what each person has voted for that is still in the game. I included Qwikshot since his votes were important.
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Lathum, Airhog, Barkeep49, BrianD, Desnudo, dubb93, jeff061, JeffR, Jon, Mustang, ntndeacon, SirFozzie the crowd begins to gather |
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Please read the history before making random comments. I live on the West Coast, my first post was at 9 AM PST. What else do you want? |
I really don't think that EaglesFan is a wolf. His voting pattern doesn't seem consistent enough. As for NoMyths, I've previously indicated that I don't think he's a wolf, based upon the strategy he's used. However, although I'm not positively sure, ntndeacon has drawn enough of my suspicion based upon his voting pattern, that I vote for ntndeacon
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Sorry about day 4 then. I do agree that day 2 means very little. Almost everyone picked Airhog for some reason or another. Most of the possibilities in my head about who are wolves are are vague as to why they are there. Call it intuition. So I am going with the name on my list about whom I am most suspicious. Could I be wrong? Sure I could. I don't think so, but it is a possibility. Do I have other suspicions. Yes. Most of those are more vague in my mind as to why I think they might be wolves. |
I voted for Shorty the first round, too.
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hmm.. why did Qwik vote odd twice? Only vote for Eaglesfan and Neuqua..
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Here is what I think of the people I suspect Strongly
BrianD - Every vote has been for a villager. Except for the Nomyths and desnudo vote, everyone else has been proven to be a villager Jon - been very quiet, also the only person to change their vote last round Kwhit - Been extremely quiet, albeit busy at work. Didnt vote last round. Swaggs Been quiet also. Almost too quiet. BrianD's voting pattern has been extremely erractic so far. I sincerely believe that at least 1 wolf is playing quiet, since GWB's outspokeness got him killed last round, I think one of the wolves is someone no-body has really talked about much so far. |
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I don't really base things on how quiet a person is, especially considering some have a lot of work to do. However, the way I perceive things, Eaglesfan is not. I'm certainly not. However, based upon your astute analysis above, I think I'm going to change my vote Unvote ntndeacon. Vote BrianD (BTW, I apologize for the apparent rambling. My g/f's mom had emergency surgery after discovering something very bad recently. So my mind is not completely coherent.) |
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Why is that? |
I think today's vote will tell the tale more... Round 2 was a wasted opportunity with the Bandwagon, the 1st round was shooting blanks. Round 3 voting is definitely interesting..
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I changed my mind (see above). |
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best wishes to her |
I firmly believe that ntndeacon is not a werewolf. It seems too easy to lynch him. I think I am going to vote with my gut on this one
I VOTE BrianD He did call out ntndeacon |
Gotta admit, Airhog is the only one we can trust right now...
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That's why I changed my mind. I took a step back and tried to observe how things were looking. There's the spite part of me that voted for ntndeacon, but an overall analysis seems to be that Brian D is a wolf.
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Gee... I have 20 minutes to decide... Although I guess I've already decided but, having doubts.. :confused:
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yeah mustang, but that doesnt mean I picked the right person.
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His recent history on gut feelings isn't so hot though. ;) I'm positive that one of the quieter people is a werewolf. However, it's impossible to pick that person out from people who are just busy in R/L. That also leaves at least a few of the more vocal ones as possibilities.
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Some good points have been made. And yes...BrianD's record has been very erratic. Too much so. Not to mention that I'm tired of defending myself against some of his accusations.
BrianD's analysis has led us to nothing but dead ends (literally). I've been suspicious that it's been on purpose. He's one of the few names still on my list with a question mark next to it based on his commentary. Now I'm willing to let others take the lead in accusing him of such, and throwing my vote in that direction. At the very least, I won't need to worry about him forcing me to defend myself yet again. So to that end: Unvote ntndeacon Vote BrianD |
Since it seems clear that I will be killed soon, I might as well tell y'all my list of possible suspects. (I wish I could just tell you that I am the Seer and out the wolves that way, but that isn't true either.) Several of these you know that I suspect already, because I voted for them. Desnudo and Jon.
I have listed my reasons for believing Desnudo was a wolf. It is more intutive with Jon. He has been one of us quiet ones. Someone mentioned that he was the only one to change his vote for yesterday. If he is a wolf, he would have known he was changing from one non-wolf to another. remember wolves don't know the cultist's identity. So then he is assuring another villager gone by joining the piling on that was happening at the time. Plus he might think that unvoting me might make me question his motives less. He was doing a nonvindictive thing by not voting for me after I voted for him. I don't have much reason for the next few except they have been quiet too. I am just a little nervous around them. Swaggs and Kwitt. Now after reading a few more posts, I see what some others are saying. I am not convinced, but I am now suspicious of BrianD as well. Obviously not all of these are wolves, and for those I wrongly suspect I apologize. But since I do not believe I will have much chance to speak after today,I might as well say my piece. i hope that after today that you will start finding actual wolves instead of innocents. Good Luck in that quest. Go villagers. Kill the werewolves. |
well it seems a lot happened since I started to count myself out. Perhaps it is time for a change of vote.
Unvote Desnudo Vote for BrianD |
You can lynch me tomorrow if I'm wrong Deacon. I'm sure I'll be high on the list. Although it seems like you're almost asking me to vote for you, I vote BrianD. You're going to think I'm a werewolf no matter I do, so I'll vote logically and hope for the best.
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The good thing is I bet either BrianD or myself will get looked at tonight by the Seer. Which would clear me and possibly implicate Brian.
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I've re-read this thread and am having doubts about my vote. I also find a few of the points about BrianD quite interesting. Therefore,
I unvote ntndeacon I vote BrianD. |
Hopefully going in a little different direction won't hurt me if I'm wrong, but I'm with ntdeacon here. I feel like I have some evidence of the others being voted for having different roles that could help us win. I have felt suspicious of the the Desnudo-Condors feud for awhile, and now that we know that Condors was an innocent I'm going to vote for Desnudo because I thought they were each trying to shift attention from their werewolf buddies.
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I'll admit that my voting has been erratic, but that is only because I didn't have any strong feelings for the wolves. The first night I moved myself away from Shorty because I didn't think he was a wolf. I was right there. I jumped on the Airhog bandwagon, which was a bad move, and I moved myself away from Qwik because I didn't believe he was a wolf. Right again. I don't think you should penalize me for not following the bandwagon on villagers.
If you guys lynch me tonight, you'll be that much closer to having the wolves win since you'll pretty much guarantee two villager deaths tonight. |
Sure alot of late comers to the BrianD party... there are either really a bunch of undecideds and Airhog has help us out tremendously or there are wolves hanging around and swinging the vote. I guess we will find out in the next 10-15 minutes.
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A lot has happened since I was gone! I had to fly to Connecticut for a training class. Sorry I missed the vote last night. I honestly thought I'd have the time after the class to participate, but they sprang one of those company dinners on us, so I went out.
But I think I have caught up with the goings on. I feel that we can trust Airhog since we know he's no werewolf. I also agree with his points about BrianD. I think that either he or ntndeacon is a werewolf. I vote BrianD. |
You all should take special note of who started the bandwagon against me. This might help you learn from the mistake you just made.
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Well I see where the vote is going but I stand behind my theory strongly. I suspected eaglesfan earlier in the game, and today I suspect him even more. Vote for BrianD if you like but I think it is a mistake.
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Mark my words, two villager deaths tonight.
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Can we get a quick vote count?
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Well, if you are indeed a villager, it would be best to spit some final words out to help us...
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I am a villager, and I gave my analysis. Switch back to ntndeacon.
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Aha! he must be the brutal wolf :D If thats the case, it was fun playing :D
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You are 100% wrong. But, I'm voting for who I think is most likely a werewolf. I'm not going to vote based on any grudges. |
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*L* good point. You've made a case Airhog but, it is one of those things that I hate second guessing myself because then I'll always be under the 'what if'... |
my count is
Brian D - 6 ntndeacon - 2 eaglesfan27 - 1 |
Refresh.
Refresh. Refresh. |
Well, unfortunately I can't stay around to see the lynching. Dinner awaits. Talk to all of y'all later.
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Creme of Villager? |
Lots of non-voters... 4 out of 13 missing? (of course, my math could be wrong)
Why does that worry me? They thinking their vote doesn't matter? |
Who hasn't voted?
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They probably won't reply, either. |
Sitting here at work with nothing better to do, the suspense of finding out whether the villagers will find get something completely right is killing me.
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If I was a brutal wolf, I wouldn't claim two dead villagers. Think about it.
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Interesting vote swing there at the end:
ntndeacon - 2 (briand, mustang) desnudo - 1 (swaggs) eaglesfan - 1 (lathum) briand - 7 (jon, airhog, nomyths, ntndeacon, desnudo, eaglesfan, kwhit) not voting - Neuqua, KevinNU7 Your group surrounds BrianD, who is still proclaiming his innocence to the end. He is strung up on the porch of the manor with businesslike efficiency, you guys are getting used to this. After he dies, you search his room and find a medical bag and other equipment. BrianD was the Doctor! Night 5 Jon Swaggs TazFTW - Lynched on Day 2 (villager) Airhog - Duke NoMyths Qwikshot - Lynched on Day 3 (Cultist) Neuqua ntndeacon McSweeny - killed on Night 3 (Witness) Shorty - Lynched on Day 1 (villager) Kwhit Mustang BrianD - lynched on Day 4 (Doctor) Condors - killed by the Hunter on Night 4 (Villager) Eaglesfan GWB - killed on Night 4 (Hunter) KevinNU7 Desnudo Lathum Have your night actions in by midnight, please. |
And you just killed a villager who could have helped save a villager tonight.
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Darn, things are not looking good for us.
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If I don't live through the night I hope you guys see the light tomorrow. |
Edit - Post deleted since NoMyths deleted his shot.
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*sigh*
Getting irritated at the dead ain't going to help us. We're floundering in deep water, and all of the well-meaning analysis hasn't led us any closer than before. What a mess. |
Well, as I said, I suspected BrianD had a specialized role, although I thought it might have been the seer. Sorry Brian, we could have used you. :(
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Good luck guys, it is getting close.
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This just keeps getting worse.
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I don't know why you are so fixated on me. If they listen to you and vote for me, they will be making another tragic mistake. I don't vote based on grudges, but I'm starting to think you are afraid I'm going to figure out something about you. |
There isn't a Duke of the Werewolves is there? I'd suspect Airhog if there is... :p
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man, we've been pretty terrible haven't we? I'm still convinced the 6 that Qwikshot listed are all innocents
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I never said my assumptions were correct, I just made them. So far Im batting 0 for 0 and nothing I said has seemed to be correct.
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You did say you were the Duke.. :D You were right there... although, you also did say you were a werewolf so... :( |
Here is an updated table of who alive has voted where...
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The Dead Can't Speak :p |
Yeah but I lied about the werewolf bit. All of my other posts after that have been my thoughts.
My personal thoughts is that at least 2 werewolves voted for BrianD. I don't think that the werewolf is ntndeacon either. Only because everyone swung over so easily. I dont think my argument was THAT convincing. My thoughts on who I think is a suspect now Khwit - Too quiet, and since he hasnt voted much, its hard to draw a bead on him Lathum - keeps calling out eaglesfan27, has flown under the radar. could definately be a werewolf except that he makes himself obvious since him and swaggs were the only two dissents from the brianD vote Desnudo - BrainD was his only voted that actually went towards a lynching mustang - felt no need to switch voting over to ntndeacon. Smart move if he was a werewolf, especially if both of them are villagers Swaggs - been quiet, and hasnt stuck out any. |
I dont think that anyone who voted for brianD will be killed. Since most of the BrianD supports are likely suspects except for myself. And that 5 others who have shadows of doubt cast on them.
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but I've been wrong so much, maybe you people should do the exact opposite of whatever I say :D
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First we have Quik's list. Now we have Airhog's. Well, at least we know Airhog's not siding with the werewolves. But, so far his judgement has been... well... it's been about as good as the rest of ours!
As far as my inclusion on the list: I told you why I have been so quiet the past couple of days. Before that I was very active. It was a situation out of my control. |
Well, Crud! In hindsight, if the choices were Brian and me I would rather me gone. At least he could watched over someone else. Well, mmaybe we can get a wolve tomorrow.
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I stood by my original vote and saw no reason to shift to BrianD as I didn't think he was a werewolf. I thought about it but, I made a case earlier in the day and seemed people were in agreement but, shifted in the last few minutes. I decided to stick with my instincts in the end. Can't speak for anyone else that flip-flopped. |
It seems odd that so many people would choose to switch on the dime. I hope the seer finds something tonight.
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Not to mention the 2 that didn't vote. Which they were either busy with real life items or didn't feel that voting on either would matter. |
It should be clear why I voted how I did, but I will say it anyway. I was preserving my hide with my vote. I did see the points others were making, and jumping on a lifeline I took it. I did think he could be a werewolf, and since I knew that I was a bad choice for werewolf, I went with what would save me.
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This logic strikes me as odd. The whole post is pretty contrived, wouldn't you say? It seems he's trying his damnedest to make us understand why he voted for Desnudo, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. We have thrown out some theories that a wolf would probably vote with the pack to avoid standing out. So maybe ntndeacon is a wolf who decided to step out on a limb, vote for somebody different, and try to justify his vote. It just seems like he may be trying too hard with this post. |
Out of curiousity, how many wolves does everyone suspect that there are?
I think there are 3. |
I was initially guessing there are 4. If that is true, we are very close to losing this game :(
However, I'm starting to think there might only be 3. |
3 or 4 with probably 1 cursed.
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I was trying hard. I was under the gun already at this point. I knew that I had not contributed much to the discussion either. |
I think there are 3 too. I think the brutal wolf was one of the two original wolves. And one of the first two nights a cursed got picked.
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Of course, all these comments may be for nothing depending on the results of the night turn...
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I'm hopeful that it's just the original three. It would take pretty long odds for them to get that lucky.
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I think the bodyguard only had to get lucky the first night. With Airhog's ravings, it was pretty easy to see that Nequa was going to get eaten the second night. So basically a 50/50 shot on cursed. I do think we started with three originals though. Two regulars and the brutal.
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I think there are 3, but here is an interesting thought, maybe the cursed one is trying to get eaten because he see's the werewolves are doing so well?
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