You didn't buy him that dress. He was an ass before he came to Edmonton, so caveat emptor. You shoulda known. And he isn't accusing the Oilers of anything. He's accusing their fans, a group you yourself acknowledge is passionate, and whom you know just completely hate him (the height of which is what right when this alleged crime would have occurred, too).

Try to get over the extremity of the analogy I made. I could just as easily say he's a crook in the past who is the victim here, but people blame him for this crime by others, because of his past.

Point is, you have no more evidence than I do (less in fact, I have Pronger's "testimony", you have, "well, where're the news reports?" blind supposition and character assassination), and you're crucifying the guy without a shred of proof. Ever heard of innocent til proven guilty? I know you're not American, but that concept can't be that foreign to you.


Dude, honestly, read this last paragraph and what I have written before this. Do you see me propping Pronger up as some paradigm of quality character? I have flat out said I don't like the guy. I know he can be an ass. On the ice and off of it. But, once again, I'm not going to blame the victim, as you are intent on doing.

You ask me to consider Pronger's quality of character? Okay, what about your fellow Oilers fans? The ones you acknowledge have so much passion. The ones you know have come up with so much hatred and vitriol towards this guy (not without provocation, but come on, you know this runs very deep). You apparently may have even had a radio station running a "burn Pronger's furniture" feature. You have here a passionate and angry mob at the height of its hatred for a specific target, and they know where he lives, and like any large group of people, there are a few oddballs.

Now, tell me, given all that, do you really think no one from that background is capable of this? Really, johnny?

You see this cuts both ways. Pronger isn't the only one with a past. So go ahead and assume he's lying. I'll assume (with much more historical evidence) that some twisted fuck arsonist from a large group of passionate individuals might have actually committed a crime wholely within his nature instead of keeping himself under control while the person he hates most tells him "Fuck you!" and hightails it outta town with all his hopes and dreams.

geez CR...

Who is this...Chris Pronger?

Here's the Nash goal from last night:



EDIT: The HD video from NHL.tv has been removed for now, as it seems to have messed up the thread. Here is the URL:

http://www.nhl.tv/team/launch.htm?hl...6&event=PHX709

That goal is fucking sweet!!

Ha. Isn't this the opening sequence of Max Payne?

Hold on here, Pronger is the one pointing the finger and accusing the Oilers' fans of burning his kid's crib...aren't the fans supposed to be "innocent until proven guilty" and not the other way around? All the "evidence" you have is uncorroborated heresay from Pronger himself and the fact that the fans are passionate. Not much of a case if you ask me.


I've acknowledged all along that this could very well have happened because everybody knows that there are fanatics of all sorts out there...no city is without them. But, I don't take everything people say for gospel especially from a guy who has gone out of his way to alienate himself from the fans of...I believe he said he gets booed in about 20 arenas. I use the sniff test...if is smells like bullshit...it probaby is bullshit. And, maybe being at the eye of the storm means the smell is much stronger, I don't know.

http://www.canada.com/topics/sports/...6-ce704477d572

Key passages:

Thanks, Simms.

While it gives more credence to Pronger not investigating this fully, nothing in the article disproves the possibility that what Pronger said was true.

That said, this only confirms Pronger is very likely continuing to be a complete ass.

Agreed.

Crosby with the dreaded high ankle sprain. For now out indefinitely, but looking like 4 weeks. He didn't make the trip after the TB game last night to Montreal for tonight's game.

So...now can we get Malkin into the ASG?

They way he went down and had to get carried off the ice, it looked a lot worse than a high ankle sprain. At least he will be back playing again this year.

DOLA

Yesterday (1/18) was the 50th anniversary of Willie O'Ree becoming the first black player in the NHL.

Article I was reading said: 52 TOTAL black players in NHL history, 14 currently.

I can come up with about about 6 right away...Laraque, Grier, Daley, Emery, Iginla, Mayers. And there are some I don't know if they count as "current" like Anthony Stewart and Shawn Belle, as I don't think they are NHL regulars at this point. And old guys I am pretty certain are no longer current - Kevin Weekes, JL Grand-Piere, Anson Carter (pretty sure he's overseas) - but they may be on a roster somewhere.

ETA - What about Peter Worrell, he anywhere? I know his twin Andreas Lilja is still around.

Brashear is another.

Shoulda had that one!

I am sure there is another obvious one or 2 I am missing

weekes is still on the devils.

johnny oduya is black, too, on the devs.

I am kind of pissed. I think about 80% of these posts should have used the spoiler tag. Have some respect for those of us who are waiting until summer before we watch this season of hockey.

Didn't realize Weekes was still around...backup G in NJ is the worst job in sports, isn't it?

Oduya...would not have guessed him. But he is on this list:

http://www.greatesthockeylegends.com...ck-hockey.html

How did I forget Roman Ndur!?!?!?!?! :confused:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=227906&hubname=nhl

Sources: Ferguson's tenure as GM over

TSN.ca Staff
1/22/2008 8:46:26 AM

John Ferguson Jr.'s tenure as general manager of the Toronto Maple Leafs looks as though it is coming to an end.

Sources tell TSN the Maple Leafs board of directors met on Monday and decided to make a change. A formal announcement is expected today.

Despite the fact the team has been on a bit of a roll lately with a 3-1 record in its last four games, the rumour mill has continued to churn concerning Ferguson's fate.

It's still possible that Cliff Fletcher - set to return from his vacation in Mexico - could become the team's interim general manager.

The Leafs contacted a number of hockey management types last week to gauge their interest in the job and asked Fletcher if he was interested in taking over for the rest of the 2007-08 campaign.

Fletcher, a Montreal native and Hockey Hall of Famer, was GM of the Leafs from 1991 to 1997.

I saw a report that Crosby could be out up to 8 weeks with the ankle injury.

That's a long time. It will be interesting to see if the Penguins can make the playoffs without him. This could work in the team's favor. If they can pull it together, make the playoffs, and then get Crosby back a week or two before they being, that'd be quite a boost.

Fletcher back as Leafs GM huh? Talk about desperation just to get fans off their backs.

What do Brandon Convery, Kenny Jonsson, Landon Wilson, Eric Fichaud and Jeff Ware have in common?

They were the first round picks Fletcher made during his tenure. Jonsson was the only one who made an impact in the NHL.

Three of the years they didn't even have first round picks due to trading out. Their top picks in those years (1991, 1996 & 1997)? Yanic Perreault (best of the bunch without doubt), Marek Posmyk and Jeff Farkas.

Man...I suppose it can't get much worse than Ferguson but unless Fletcher has updated blackmail material on the current batch of GMs, I don't see him pulling off any robberies like he did in the Gilmour trade from Calgary or the Grant Fuhr trade to Buffalo.

What the Pens should do is just tank the rest of the season. That way they can get another high draft pick to go along with Crosby, Malkin, and Staal. Plus they need to stockpile these young stars to replace the other ones they won't be able to re-sign in a few years.

Has anyone mentioned Tony McKegney?

Agreed. The MLSE would've been much better served to have canned Ferguson in the offseason and avoided all of this altogether.

Did you miss the earlier part of this decade when they did this? ;)

He was trying to list the 14 current players. I don't think Tony should be on that list.

My mistake. Carry on. :cool:

The Pens will be hard pressed to hold onto Malkin, Crosby, Staal, Whitney, and Fleury after their contracts expire in the next few years. So I guess they need to just keep doing what they do best: play like crap, get a top #5 draft pick, and suck some more after the pick leaves in a few years. Hmmm....sounds a lot like the Florida Marlins.

Well Crosby and Whitney are locked up for a good part of the foreseeable future. I don't think Staal will demand as much money as people projected after his year last year. He has cooled off.

Malkin will get a good bit, I'd say around 5.5 to 7 per in today's standards and I think the jury is still out on Fleury. Like you said it could be rough, but I think they could do it. Hopefully (for them) when the new arena comes, it will increase their revenue stream and allow them to spend a lot closer to the cap than they are now.

So the arena deal is for sure then? I have never been to the Igloo, but my dad has and he said it was a dive. Not to mention that a professional team, regardless of the sport, should NEVER rent a stadium in my opinion. That is soooo minor league. The Pens definately need some new digs.

Also, I thought Crosby was only signed for this year and next. Did they add some years or what?

He's locked up for a few more years, RG.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=213216&hubname

Yeah they are getting the arena. They are going to be getting revenue from parking and concessions that they weren't getting before and that should really help the team. It should be completed by the 2010 season.

Crosby just signed a 8.5 million per year that runs out in 2013.

Don't forget that then Pens also had Esposito fall to them in this past draft that could make up (assuming they can get him to live up to his potential) for losing one of their current guys.

Esposito is way overrated; there's a reason why he fell in the draft, hasn't made the WJC championship in three attempts and has yet to live up to his reputation even at the junior level.

Nicklas Bäckström has scored 8 assists in the last two games! :eek:

Pens fans can now stop crying conspiracy... ;)

Evgeni Malkin will replace Sidney Crosby in the All Star game this weekend.

Dola...

Crosby is out 6 to 8 weeks.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=227909&hubname=

So, what will Fletcher do now?

I wonder if Crosby is going to be another Mario Lemieux. I always felt that Lemieux was a better player than Gretzky, but he played on some so-so to downright bad teams, and he was hurt a lot the last half of his career. For the sake of hockey in Pittsburgh and for the NHL, I hope Crosby is not injury prone.

Wow...I didn't realize there was a Penguins lovefest going on here and I was missing it.

To comment on everything above -

Staal won't be getting nearly the $ people felt he would. Same for Fleruy. Heading into the season, both could have solidified big paydays, but Fleury has been shaky (and now injured) and Staal nowhere near the player he was last season (where, admittedly, he caught a bunch of people off guard, not so this season).

Crosby is actually signed for $8.7 a year beginning next season. Still on the 3rd year of his entry level deal.


Espo will play on the wing here. He doesn't need to be "the guy" here. Hell, he doesn't even need to ride shotgun here.

Malkin has exploded the past 2 games since Crosby's injury. He was clearly the best player on the ice in Montreal Saturday night. I would be ecstatic to get him at $5.5M! Think closer to $8M. Heatley got $7.7 I think. The fear would be someone offers him a bloated RFA deal. But that can't happen until July 2009. Pens will do everything they can to lock him up in July 2008.

Crosby is hardly injury prone. This is the first extended time he'll miss in his career. And he plays a much more physical game than Lemieux played. Crosby doesn't absorb hits, he initiates them. Think Forsberg.

Whitney has been a disappointment this year. But at $4M, he'll be a bargain at the end of that deal (5 more seasons after this) if he regains his form of last season.

Calling the arena a dive...is an insult to other dives! Where my seats are, I look up, and see exposed wirings, covered with about 2 inches of dust, hanging out of the walls.

Not sure what this has to do with anything, since they'll likely have the new GM in place before the draft. Fletcher is here to trade the veterans for youth, something he was very successful at in his first run with the Leafs (although in hindsight he didn't do it enough).

Thought this was funny:
http://www.hockeydrunk.com/hockey/if...-a-high-school

Landon Wilson had a great 20 game run for the Pens in 2003. OK, great by Landon Wilson standards. Didn't he have some kind of freak eye injury (stick?puck?) early on?

I feel the need to brag; the Canucks may have the Sedin twins, well the Kostitsyn bros have arrived in Montreal!

Andrei scores against Washington

Andrei scores against Atlanta

Andrei to Sergei against the Rangers

Sergei hits David Krejci

Sergei hits David Krejci again, fights Chuck Kobasew

Last 21 games:
Andrei Kostitsyn - 21GP - 11G - 10A - 21PTS
Sergei Kostitsyn - 18GP - 3G - 7A - 10PTS

That was hilarious! It was right on with most of the cities.

I give up trying to figure out Carolina anymore. They play superb defense in a pair of back-to-back road games (both 1-0, a win and a loss), come home and get run off the ice by New Jersey, then cough up a three-goal lead on Colorado, lose to a collapsing Toronto, get blown out by Ottawa, then annihilate Edmonton, rally past the Isles at New York on Monday, then turn around and give up three (count 'em, three--two on one power play, even) shorties to the same Islanders last night in Raleigh and lose 6-3. If it weren't for the fact that the Southeast has reverted back to the SouthLeast this year, they'd be struggling to make the playoffs right now. Actually, they still are, since it doesn't look like more than one team from the Southeast is even going to make it anyway. At the break, they're .500 (24-24-4) and that 11-4-3 start is a really distant memory.

Funny (?) sidebar to the Fletcher hiring. Fans and bloggers have noticed that when Fletcher delivers his prepared remarks, Peddie's lips are moving. Nobody knows if this means that Peddie wrote Fletcher's words for him, or if he just spent so much time approving them that he had them memorized, but we all agree that he is finding new and creative ways to embarass himself.

Check below, at around the 4:45 mark and beyond.

Wow! That is absolutely ridiculous. Boy, is Fletcher setup to fail or what?

Pens-Flyers tonight...No Sid, No Roberts, No Ben Eager. Anyone on Philly willing to go with Laraque?

Oh...they might play hockey too.

Are you making excuses already ;)

The only one I think that would fight Laraque is Cote, and I don't think he is that dumb to get his ass beat.

It will be interesting to see how the Flyers bounce back from that embarrassing 7-3 loss to NJ on Tuesday night.

Dola...at this point last season the Flyers had 27 points as compared to the 57 they have right now. What a difference a year makes.

Hahaha that lips moving thing is funny.

Great game between the Ducks and Wings last night. Definitely a playoff atmosphere.

The Wings held their own and Hasek was on his game. The Wings made the most of their chances, scoring on a 5 on 3 and and a lucky 2 on 1 where Bucheamin's stick broke.

Typical Ducks style of play. Bertuzzi ran Hasek in the early going. It was nice to see Cleary stand up to Pronger, even if he got the worse of it. Considering Zetterberg wasn't in the line-up and Cleary missed the second and third periods, it was all the more impressive.

Biggest piece of shit in the history of hockey. Except for maybe that guy that molested Sheldon Kennedy.....

yeah, I only watched the first period, but it was enjoyable. I liked that the Wings took the physical stuff right to the Ducks.

at one point, there was, what, 4 Ducks in the box? I thought I was watching the old NES Wayne Gretzky Hockey game.

Funny thing is that the players in that game look just like the ones in EHM. True story. :D

That would be Graham James. And you're way WAY off. Bertuzzi worse than Mike Danton or David Frost? What about Alan Eagleson? Gary Bettman? Dino Cicarelli? Bob Clarke? I'm sure I'm forgetting a lot more...

Are you serious? Gary Bettman? He is a turd yes, but Bertuzzi nearly killed a guy during a game. Danton did stuff off the ice so he is not relevant to Bertuzzi. Cicarelli was a scrappy player but nowhere near the level of Bertuzzi. He is garbage.

Scrappy? Yes. But he was also convincted of assault for going after Luke Richardson with his stick during a game. It's pretty rare that an on ice action actually leads to a criminal conviction.

Brian Rafalski was invited to go to the All-Star because Zubov is hurt. Rafalski declined because he'd already made plans.

It's good to see him get acknowledged. He's having a great year. Through 51 games, he's already tied his career high in goals (9) and his 43 points are only 12 off his career high. Assuming he stays healthy, he should have career numbers across the board.

The Wings will have some interesting deals to making coming up. Cleary is an UFA at the end of this season. I am sure he'll re-sign with the team, it's just a matter of how much.

Zetterberg has one year left on his deal, but I am sure the Wings will try to lock him up long term as soon as they can (post July 1, I think). I imagine the Wings will look to sign Zetterberg to something along the lines of Datsyuk's deal, but the price may have gone up since then, especially after Ovechkin's deal. I want to see the Wings lock him up long term, and they will, but anything over 6 or 7 years is ridiculous. Even that length of a deal is pushing the limits of reason.

Bettman has done a pretty good job of killing the entire game of hockey, which seems pretty bad in my opinion.

You said he was the biggest POS in the history of hockey. Danton is part of that history, and he actually set out to murder someone. Mind you, the guy he set out to murder also happens to be a creepy-ass Graham James Jr., whom is also a part of hockey's history (and present perhaps? I can't recall what became of him).

And as H_B said, Dino went to prison... that's gotta put him ahead of Bert.

I was not aware that Dino went to prison. When was that, and is he still in there? In addition, Bertuzzi SHOULD have gone to prison. I stand by my statement that he is garbage. I will just add a few others to the list.

Yes, Bettman has killed the sport. It only looks to get worse, as he wants to expand again :confused: (Las Vegas???? WTF???).

*sigh*

Then there was that Billy Tibbets guy in Pittsburgh for a while. He had all sorts of issues...

The Wings definately need to keep Zetterberg. He is a better player than Datsyuk, so he should be paid more. On a side note, whatever happened with Jiri Fischer? Did he retire?

Yeah he was a piece of work.....

I don't think he's officially retired. Every once in a while I hear something about Fischer trying to find some way to make a comeback, but I don't think it's every going to happen.

He still has a position in the Wings' organization, but I think, sadly, his playing days are done.

It is a shame. Just like Konstantinov, the Wings lose a pretty good d-man before his prime. :(

Dino's sentance was only 1 day, and it was back in the 80's, so he's out now :)

I won't get into the Bertuzzi thing because I've said my piece before, but I disagree that he should have gone to prison. Frankly, I think what Chris Simon did with his skate a few weeks ago was far worse.

I never cared for Dino, even when he played for my red wings. What Chris Simon did was inexcusable but not surprising. He has always been a goon and a thug in a league that encourages that type of thing. It is too bad that Gary "Ballsless" Bettman doesn't ban him permanently from the NHL.

*shrugs*

That's a pretty comprehensive list. Did we miss anybody? If you should be on the list and you're not, please raise your hand.

Pretty sure i heard Fischer on the radio the other day saying he now does player development with the wings.

Is that Wendel Clark's dad?

The league better look at the hit Laraque had tonight...

Does he deserve something because it was a STUPID move to hit Downie? Yes. Probably a game or two. You can't possibly think that was any worse than Randy Jones hit on Patrice Bergeron, and I believe Jones got 2 games.

And I am not one to adhere to the "he deserved it...he put himself in a bad position" argument. But for the life of me I can't figure out why Downie puts his head down.

Cote took all of 2+ minutes to prove you wrong...he is that dumb! ;)

I don't think it was worse than the Jones him but if the league wants to start cracking down on this stuff they need to start handing out stiffer penalties.

Head down or not you cant cross check a guy in the lower back 3 feet away from the boards. My issue is that if it was a Flyer, he would be suspended because of their history, and it is rightfully so, the league should take a closer look at teams that have history of illegal hits.

But this is the second time that Laraque has done something dirty, remember last game when he slide tackled Biron? Nothing happened. That was nothing but dirty and in my mind worse than the hit on Downie last night because at least with last night's hit he was trying to play the puck.

My feeling is that the sentiment is that since he did it to Downie it is alright, since Downie is already established as a dirty player.

I can't believe Cote walked away without any blood on his face. He took some shots.

My only objection to what you said...was not a cross check, he didn't use his stick (from what I am recalling in my head...no Youtube at work! :( )

I don't think Downie "deserved" it because he's a dirty player (which he is), because no one deserves a concussion.

But I am amused by Stevens after the game railing against Laraque calling it "a vicious hit." I don't remember him feeling so strongly about P Bergeron and D McAmmond.

And the Biron thing...again, shitty move by Laraque, but I also understand why he did it (which is looked like Briere tried and failed at the same last night). Biron was tough when it was Sid, but nobody wanted anything to do with Laraque when he did it.

Great quote from Laraque from the PG


If he doesn't get suspended this time, he set himself up for one the next time he does something. Pretty sure the league would point to that as intent.

I already had a mail from a Flyers fan in my office touting Cote winning that fight because he "took Laraque down at the end." :confused:

Maybe not a cross check per say but it was one of those where the hands were about 2 feet apart on the stick and he punched both hands in the lower back. Cross-check might not have been the best choice of words. I don't have access to You Tube either.



I think Therrien would've done the same thing. He is just protecting his player and standing up for him. You didn't hear Therrien say that Laraque's hit was dirty, I don't think a coach wants to call any more attention to the play. Plus Stevens and GM Paul Holmgren have sat down with Downie on a number of occasions to talk about his lack of discipline. I think he is seeing professional help because of it.

I gotta give the Pens credit though, they hung in there. They survived that early barrage of shots to make it a good game. But if they want to win games without Sid, they really need to keep the scores lower. They need the games to be more like the one against Montreal, rather than the ones against Washington and Philly. Slow the tempo down, and play off of the other team's mistakes. I know that is easier said than done when you are down as many men as the Pens are with injuries.

Finally, Cote didn't win that fight. I am surprised that he had the balls to even drop the gloves with George.

Edit...Actually Therrian did say something about the hit..

The guy I work with just has Orange and Black glasses on...I can admit they beat up the Pens physically in those first 3 meetings, but Cote didn't even land a punch (did he even THROW a punch?) and Stone handled himself well against Downie.

Of course, this is the same guy who loves to break out all the Crosby whining/diving cliches...but when I point at Downie as immature, I get the "he plays hard" line.

I get why Stevens has to draw attention to it (and Therrien won't), just funny coming from him, when it's been his team throwing those hits (not saying all intentionally) the first 40 games.

As for the next 6 weeks...while it would seem that is the correct way for them to play, their D is so rediculously bad, I don't know that they have a chance that way. Scuderi has played out of his mind, and still probably shouldn't be in the top 4 of a contending team. Gonchar is elite offensively, and while he gets railed against often, he's adequate in his own end. But he's not a #1 guy. Whitney, the next time he hits someone, will be the first time. I know hitting isn't everything...Lidstrom never nails anyone, but Whitney is no Lidstrom in his positional game. Letang has been surprisingly solid in his own end, but he's 20. Sydor...he's way better than at the beginning of the season, but he was so terrible than, he's still hovering around average right now. And Orpik is the only physical guy we have, but positionally he's pretty awful as well.

As much as people keep saying we need another wing to play with Sid, we need a top pairing Dman that much more. Even if they bring Eaton back next season. That allows Eaton to play on the 2nd pair and Scuderi on the 3rd.

Does anyone think Laraque's hit was any worse than Erksine on Antropov last night?

I should have known before clicking on that who it would be but I just didn't for some reason.

SI

With the hat tip to Deadspin, here's a commercial for a Pittsburgh area car dealership, featuring Colby Armstrong, Maxim Talbot, Sergei Gonchar, and Evgeni Malkin.

Good stuff. :)

Good stuff indeed :) It reminds me of a couple of the Blue Jackets commercials for a car dealership as well, which weren't as bad as those above, but they're still painful to watch.

Rick Nash:



Jody Shelley:

Kris Beech is currently listed on the Penguins roster! For those of you scoring along at home, this is the same Kris Beech (aka the next Ron Francis) who has been through Nashville, Washington, Columbus, Vancouver and Washington again since leaving Pittsburgh in 2004.

I have a good feeling this time...we're going to win that Jagr trade after all!

Started watching a replay of the skills competition.... What a joke this has become.

1st: Didn't the 2nd guy going for the East in the puck slalom actually miss on the 2nd to last slalom, he mishandled and that I though brought it through the last one.

2nd: Where did the extra point come from after the first competition. It was supposed to be worth 2 points, one for each leg. The East wins both legs and after commercial it is 2-1 East. Then they never explain where that point came from.

3rd: The fasted skater competition was a joke as it seemed that not one person knew what was going on. They explain that it seems to be the stick crossing the line that counts but in the one heat not only did the one player cross first but his stick corssed first as well but the other player was given a faster time.

4th: They don't even know what the rules are for the finals in this event as they first send out the local guy for the East and then pull him back for a Bruin that gives a half-assed effort and gets his ass kicked.

5th: What is with that camera angle for the shootout? Yeah, use the behind the skater angle as a replay angle but let me see the entire thing as it first happens as you can barely see the goalie until the skater shoots with the behind the skater camera. Don't even get me started that the camera is being carrired by someone who is skating and not even a camera like in the NFL that is strung along the top.


This looks like a minor league event they way it is handled.

are you new to the NHL?

Well, nothing says professional like having one of the premier events of the year on Versus :(

SI

At least they did it on a weekend this year, and on a weekend where there is no football.

How could they not get it on NBC?

SI

And if I'm not mistaken, they extended the Versus deal for another 3 years. Minor league operation indeed... F'ing Bettman. Much more important to get those extra few million than actually having national exposure.

Nice fun finish to the game itself. Nice for Savard to get the winner back in Atlanta too.

And although I'm not a fan of the mics-on-players gimmick, I have to admit that I thought Legace came across very likable & I enjoyed hearing him.

Heh, also got a kick out of Bettman being roundly booed during the MVP presentation.

Hey Suburban, I thought you might like this... ;)

:confused: Nothing opening up...probably cause I'm at work, and everything here is blocked!!!

Except FOFC! :)

It's a You tube clip thats why...

This suspense is going to kill me all day.

Does this involve Kris Beech??
Is it bigger than a bread box?

Right on. How much longer is Bettman in office anyway? When will the NHL get a clue and get rid of this idiot? I hope they don't do what MLB did: Bud Selig extends 3 years. Of course, Selig is the owners'/players' puppet. Dance, Bud, dance!!!

I hate both of them. :mad: True story.

Wow are you going to be pissed when you finally see it.

Given my irrational hatred for the Red Wings, I could never have said this two years ago, but it's OK now:

I love Manny Legace.

Legace was a lot of fun to listen to on Saturday night. So was DiPietro, although DiPietro seemed to be trying a little too hard with his jokes. My favorite was when he said that one of the players was using a Bowflex, and then Mike Emrick asks him to explain "for the people at home" what a Bowflex is.