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bbgunn 12-27-2017 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronconick (Post 3189613)
Good old Megan Kelly telling us how Jesus and Santa are white.

I find it interesting that here in Japan, whenever you have Santa Claus at the shopping mall or wherever for children to take pictures with, Santa is always white. You never see a Japanese Santa Claus; they always hire a Caucasian man to play the part of Santa in anything. I asked why there are no Japanese Santas, and they were incredulous. "What are you talking about? Everybody knows Santa Claus is white. Why would there be a Japanese Santa Claus? It makes no sense."

It's an interesting contrast to my experience growing up in the U.S. My parents always made a point of taking me to get pictures taken with an African American Santa Claus. It was a point of pride for them.

NobodyHere 12-27-2017 07:29 PM

I want to make a joke about how it would be natural for a black Santa Clause to sneak into people's houses at night but I won't.

Does that thought make me a terrible person?

Edward64 12-28-2017 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bbgunn (Post 3189677)
I find it interesting that here in Japan, whenever you have Santa Claus at the shopping mall or wherever for children to take pictures with, Santa is always white. You never see a Japanese Santa Claus; they always hire a Caucasian man to play the part of Santa in anything. I asked why there are no Japanese Santas, and they were incredulous. "What are you talking about? Everybody knows Santa Claus is white. Why would there be a Japanese Santa Claus? It makes no sense."


Similar to many in the US thinking Jesus was a white, dirty/blond, blue-eyed middle-eastern guy.

BishopMVP 12-28-2017 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3189673)




What's interesting to me isn't that Trump became the 1st first year president not to win in 71 years. It's that not a single conservative woman made the top 5. Actually, the last time a conservative woman made the top 5 was Condoleezza Rice in 2014.

The most interesting thing to me is that Billy Graham is still alive... and I live in South Charlotte!

Ben E Lou 12-28-2017 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP (Post 3189697)
The most interesting thing to me is that Billy Graham is still alive... and I live in South Charlotte!

I've had three close-up encounters with Billy Graham--two in 1998, and one in 2010. If you'd told me after the 2010 meeting that he'd still be alive in 2017, I'd have said you were crazy.

Pic attached for a "fun" memory: about 30 seconds after it was taken, our then-18-month-old daughter threw an epic tantrum right there on the floor at Daddy Bill's feet. :p

Edward64 12-28-2017 04:56 PM

Nice picture!

ISiddiqui 12-28-2017 04:58 PM

You know, when this thread started, I don't think I'd ever imagined we'd have a picture of Ben with Billy Graham as part of it.

Ben E Lou 12-28-2017 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3189740)
You know, when this thread started, I don't think I'd ever imagined we'd have a picture of Ben with Billy Graham as part of it.

Random, I am. ;)

The backstory is that shortly after my wife and I started dating, my roommate starting dating one of Billy Graham's granddaughters. The girls hit it off with one another pretty well and we ended up getting married 8 weeks apart in '98 and were parts of each others' weddings. Despite moving fairly far away, we've kept in touch pretty well. (It was easy when we lived in Charleston because they vacationed every year quite near us.) The photo above was from a weekend that we spent with them at Montreat. We stayed at the Grahams' former home in the village and went up the mountain one afternoon to his current home.

Random fact #2 about my ex-roommate: not only did he marry Billy Graham's granddaughter, but he also was one of my two roomies who found the body of Sara Tokars.

digamma 12-28-2017 08:55 PM

The Trumpster with a heck of an interview in the NY Times this evening.

BBT 12-29-2017 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by digamma (Post 3189745)
The Trumpster with a heck of an interview in the NY Times this evening.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/28/u...-excerpts.html

Groundhog 12-29-2017 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BBT (Post 3189755)


Maybe the worst interview yet, which is really saying something.

I like to think I'm fairly open minded and not stubborn enough to refuse to change my mind on something if presented with enough evidence to the contrary, but at this point I don't know what to say other than that if any pro-Trump types can read that interview and think this guy has any idea what he's saying, or that he's even remotely qualified to even be considered for the position he is currently in, you are just ... willfully dumb.

Thomkal 12-29-2017 07:05 AM

he sure does a lot of interviews with that "failing NY Times." He just says the same talking points over and over again because he thinks if he keeps saying it it will come true. I don't think any Democrat has said there is no collusion with Russia. I hope Dems get control of the House or Senate, so they are in a better position than they are now to contain the damage he is doing.

digamma 12-29-2017 07:24 AM

There's an interesting podcast interview with NYT reporter Maggie Haberman in/on the Atlantic this week. She's a bit confounding herself and very defensive about any criticism, but she offers insights into why Trump is the way he is. It's not necessarily novel (he is an NYC developer yada yada yada), but there are a few points that go directly to this interview regarding how he thinks of the New York Times and how he convinces himself of another reality by repeating the same things again and again. There's also a really interesting tidbit on how he views his kids. Worth the half hour listen.

pbot 12-29-2017 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by digamma (Post 3189760)
how he convinces himself of another reality by repeating the same things again and again.


"Jerry, just remember, it is not a lie....if YOU believe it."

Ben E Lou 12-29-2017 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BBT (Post 3189755)

Good gracious.

Marc Vaughan 12-29-2017 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog (Post 3189758)
Maybe the worst interview yet, which is really saying something..


Out of interest what did you find 'worst' in that - I thought it was very vague and uninformed .. but didn't think it really any worse than previous ones I've seen write ups for (I haven't heard the interview itself is it online?) ..

I do realize that part of this, which terrifies me somewhat, is that I have such low expectations for Trump in interview ...

EagleFan 12-29-2017 10:56 AM

Holy hell that is a tough read. He just rambles aimlessly.

cuervo72 12-29-2017 11:18 AM

Or:

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There are people who had very good health insurance that now are paying not to have health insurance. That’s what the individual mandate. …

Because that's exactly what it did - it forced people off of good plans, and into paying for nothing.

NobodyHere 12-29-2017 02:01 PM

South Korea seizes ship that transferred oil to North Korea

I'm sure Kim will be along shortly to throw a temper tantrum over this.

Groundhog 12-29-2017 04:52 PM

Yeah, his incorrect usage of the word bipartisan really sticks out to me, from everything else in that rambling mess of incoherence. I guess if I had to circle the single worst thing about that interview, that would be it. It's like English isn't his first language.

cuervo72 12-29-2017 06:05 PM

Trump administration fires all members of HIV/AIDS advisory council - The Washington Post

Logan 12-30-2017 07:07 AM

"Let's move forward so we can get on to infrastructure!"

Trump administration kills Gateway tunnel deal | Crain's New York Business

GrantDawg 12-30-2017 12:56 PM

It just hit me watching a CNN report interviewing Trump supports in Dawsonville, Ga on how Trump is going to win re-election. It's the economy, stupid. If he can with tax's breaks and de-regulation create a economic bubble, he will cruise to victory. If the democrats win back the congress, and the economy busts, he could win re-election and secure a crazy level republican control in congress. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm getting a sinking feeling I'm right.

JPhillips 12-30-2017 01:12 PM

Don't get caught up in interviews with Trump supporters. Even with basically full employment Trump has an approval rating under 40%. Trump voters will most likely remain Trump supporters, but his win was so improbable and driven by an elderly demographic, that he needs to expand his support to win in 2020. There's no evidence of that as of now.

larrymcg421 12-30-2017 01:48 PM

The President is more likely to get credit/blame for a good/bad economy than Congress. In 2008, voters didn't blame the Dems who took control in 2006 midterms. In 1996, voters didn't credit the GOP who took control in 1994. In 1992 and 1984, the credit/blame went to the party in charge of the White House and not the one in control of Congress.

mckerney 12-30-2017 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 3189830)
"Let's move forward so we can get on to infrastructure!"

Trump administration kills Gateway tunnel deal | Crain's New York Business


His entire infrastructure plan was to give tax subsidies to companies looking to privatize public infrastructure so this isn't much of a surprise.

PilotMan 12-30-2017 02:08 PM

Privatize roads, privatize bridges, privatize anything that moves. Nickle and dime every citizen whenever they move. Put the Trump name on all of it and keep that coin machine running.

GrantDawg 12-31-2017 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3189853)
Don't get caught up in interviews with Trump supporters. Even with basically full employment Trump has an approval rating under 40%. Trump voters will most likely remain Trump supporters, but his win was so improbable and driven by an elderly demographic, that he needs to expand his support to win in 2020. There's no evidence of that as of now.



I'm not. It just jarred me to really think about things. Really, it was more thinking about the people I know that voted for Trump (I live in Georgia, and you can't throw a cat without hitting one). There were a large number of people I know that voted for him that did not like him or trust him. Some voted based on social issues, and I doubt any democrat that is nominated is going to change their vote. More likely even those who have straight turned against him at this point could easily be motivated to go vote for him again just on abortion alone. Sad but true.

Really, most of the people I know who voted for him even though they did not like him were voting because they were convinced he'd be better for the economy. If the economy is booming, I am very afraid he is going to win.

GrantDawg 12-31-2017 11:59 AM

Btw, why are basing anything on approval ratings? His approval numbers are the same as when he was elected the first time. http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/21/politi...day/index.html

JPhillips 12-31-2017 01:03 PM

His win was incredibly unlikely and he can't count on threading the needle while losing by three million votes. He could win, but at this point he is't doing the things he needs to to increase his support.

Atocep 12-31-2017 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3189970)
Btw, why are basing anything on approval ratings? His approval numbers are the same as when he was elected the first time. http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/21/politi...day/index.html


The numbers really don't need to move much there. He won the election by 77k votes combined in those 3 states.

A lot of assumptions need to be made any time you're looking forward 3 years in politics, but Trump has narrowed his base by all measures I've seen.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...in-red-states/

If, and this is a big if, these trends hold then Trump is going to end up fighting in states Republicans shouldn't be spending time fighting for. That's not a recipe to win a national election.

JPhillips 12-31-2017 04:34 PM

There is also very little chance there will be another game changing FBI announcement one week before the election.

(Unless it concerns Trump.)

edit: I'll also add that presidents tend to get reelected, so Trump will probably go into the election with fundamentals that favor him.

Edward64 01-01-2018 10:15 AM

FWIW, here's what some of the Dow 30 says/will do about the tax cut.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/he...ill-2017-12-21
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President Donald Trump can make corporate America great, or at least more competitive, after he signed the tax bill into law Friday, according to a MarketWatch survey of the large multinational members of Dow Jones Industrial Average.

Almost all the companies that responded applauded the legislation, mostly in the broadest sense and largely in corporate-speak without specifics, saying the lowered corporate tax rate would “allow” or “enhance” the ability of U.S.-headquartered companies to compete more fairly with overseas-based companies. The new tax law lowers the maximum corporate tax rate to 21% from 35%.

jeff061 01-01-2018 11:39 AM

"As we don't have any plans to increase wages or re-invest savings from these tax cuts, our profits will go up and our shareholders will be pleased. 7 figure bonuses all around for the leadership team!".

mckerney 01-01-2018 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jeff061 (Post 3190096)
"As we don't have any plans to increase wages or re-invest savings from these tax cuts, our profits will go up and our shareholders will be pleased. 7 figure bonuses all around for the leadership team!".


Well why don't poor people just buy stocks?

BBT 01-01-2018 02:05 PM

From the Independent in the UK

Nikki Haley seemingly tricked by Russian pranksters into commenting on fictional country 'Binomo'

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The US Ambassador to the UN spent 22 minutes talking to someone she thought was the Polish Prime Minister

A pair of Russian comedians appear to have successfully tricked the US’ Ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, into commenting on a fictional Asian country.

The two comedians Vladimir Kuznetsov and Alexei Stolyarov, known as Vovan and Lexus, posted a 22 minute audio clip of their conversation with the ambassador where they get her to comment on the situation in Binomo – a fictional country in the South China Sea.

Posing as the Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki, they spoke to Ms Haley in the days after Poland was one of 35 countries to abstain on a UN vote to reject Donald Trump’s declaration of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital as “null and void”.

The UN General Assembly voted 128-9, excluding the abstentions, in favour of the motion.

She said: “Let me start with very much thanking you for the support we received on the vote today. We will never forget it”.

Previous Mr Trump suggested he would cut off financial aid to those who voted for the motion.

The pranksters then moved the discussion to the situation in Binomo.

Mr Stolyarov, who was posing as Mr Morawiecki, said: “You know Binomo” to which Ms Haley replied “yes, yes”.

“They had elections and we suppose Russia had its intervention”, he continued.

Ms Haley then replied: “Yes, of course they did, absolutely.

“We’ve been watching that very closely, and I think we will continue to watch that as we deal with the issues that keep coming up about the South China Sea.”

He then asked her what the US was planning to do about the island to which Ms Haley responded that she needed to “find out exactly what our stance is on that” and get back to them.

The comedians also questioned her about Ukraine, with whom Russia has been engaging in a proxy war since 2014, and expressed support for the former President of Georgia, Mikheil Saakashvili, who was arrested in Kiev earlier this month.


NobodyHere 01-01-2018 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney (Post 3190103)
Well why don't poor people just buy stocks?


Well why do you think they're poor?



On a more serious note I wish some of my coworkers, especially the younger ones, would think about investing more. I think some are intimidated by the market and others just think it's a scam.

Atocep 01-01-2018 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3190186)
Well why do you think they're poor?



Because they're buying iPhones

Thomkal 01-02-2018 12:50 PM

So Trump took credit for there being no airline deaths in 2017. Social media set him straight:

Social media users mock Trump for taking credit for air-travel safety record | TheHill

PilotMan 01-02-2018 02:41 PM

I really hope this guy takes credit for shitty landings, not that I personally need it, but some people need someone to blame.

Thomkal 01-02-2018 02:46 PM

Hatch announces retirement from Senate | TheHill

Mitt Romney likely to get the seat.

Bee 01-02-2018 02:47 PM

If he wants to take credit from something, he can take credit for my wife (who is a democrat) and I fighting less about politics, since we both think he's an idiot.

Thomkal 01-02-2018 02:52 PM

LOL Bee

CrimsonFox 01-02-2018 03:35 PM

They think this will cause problems since Romney hates Trump but meh I don't think it will change anything since ROmney has no testicles.

I do wonder tho. If ROmney had beaten Obama, would we have this horrible trump/ryan/mcconell problem we have today?

ISiddiqui 01-02-2018 03:40 PM

Do we know if Romney has any testicles or not? Just because he flip flops for votes doesn't mean that he won't let personal hatred guide his record.

CrimsonFox 01-02-2018 03:43 PM

Do you REALLY think he will do anything? Like, say...vote with Democrats?

ISiddiqui 01-02-2018 03:44 PM

I mean McCain did a couple times. His hatred of Trump likely didn't hurt there.

larrymcg421 01-02-2018 03:51 PM

Romney will have more freedom than just about any other Republican. If he gets that seat, the Tea Party will not be able to threaten him. Any primary challenge will be easily laughed off. Will he use that freedom? That's a different story.

ISiddiqui 01-02-2018 03:55 PM

Romney may also see himself as a sort of "savior of the Republican Party". The question is whether he is thinking about primarying Trump in 2020.

stevew 01-02-2018 03:57 PM

Replacing an 83year old senator with a 71 year old senator doesn't exactly seem like a youth movement.

JPhillips 01-02-2018 03:57 PM

Romney will say some mean things about Trump and join with Rubio to vote for anything that comes up.

Now if the Dems somehow win the Senate, then I could see him being a real thorn in Trump's side.

CrimsonFox 01-02-2018 04:01 PM

maybe a dem will beat romney again XD

larrymcg421 01-02-2018 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3190357)
maybe a dem will beat romney again XD


Not in Utah. Nope.

CrimsonFox 01-02-2018 04:14 PM

they said that in alabamy

larrymcg421 01-02-2018 04:19 PM

If Romney gets embroiled in a child fucking scandal, then I agree that he will lose Utah.

albionmoonlight 01-02-2018 05:19 PM

Roy Moore was always a weak GOP candidate. It just was that Alabama was red enough that it didn't matter.

Romney, in Utah, is a very strong candidate.

Atocep 01-02-2018 05:50 PM

Not much of a story, but rather funny.

Roy Moore's Jewish lawyer voted for Doug Jones, raised money for his campaign

PilotMan 01-02-2018 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3190354)
The question is whether he is thinking about primarying Trump in 2020.


Someone is going to, and once that door opens, it may be a long list to come for him.

RainMaker 01-02-2018 06:13 PM

Romney is incredibly popular in Utah. Trump didn't even get 50% of the vote in that state.

Thomkal 01-02-2018 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3190362)
Roy Moore was always a weak GOP candidate. It just was that Alabama was red enough that it didn't matter.

Romney, in Utah, is a very strong candidate.


Is Evan McMullin likely to run? He's about the only one I can think of off the top of my head that might have a chance against him.

larrymcg421 01-02-2018 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3190378)
Is Evan McMullin likely to run? He's about the only one I can think of off the top of my head that might have a chance against him.


McMullin will almost certainly be campaigning for Romney. They are allies. Romney never officially endorsed McMullin in 2016, but McMullin's staff was filled with Romney guys and he used Romney's donor lists.

And even if he did run, McMullin would have no shot. Romney got 89% and 93% in two GOP primaries there.

JPhillips 01-02-2018 08:34 PM

McMullin has already called fro Mitt to run.

Jas_lov 01-02-2018 08:46 PM

I thought General Kelly was supposed to stop these stupid tweets.

PilotMan 01-02-2018 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jas_lov (Post 3190389)
I thought General Kelly was supposed to stop these stupid tweets.



NobodyHere 01-02-2018 08:54 PM

I think the tweets are the only thing I enjoy about the Trump Presidency

Thomkal 01-02-2018 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3190334)
So Trump took credit for there being no airline deaths in 2017. Social media set him straight:

Social media users mock Trump for taking credit for air-travel safety record | TheHill


I guess he won't take credit for this:

Coal mining deaths double in 2017 | TheHill

BBT 01-03-2018 03:35 AM

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ngerous-216202

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There was the matter of Mexico and his promise to build that “big, beautiful wall,” presumably to keep not just Mexicans but all of their citizens out of the United States too. And the threat to blow up the North American Free Trade Agreement. And then, a month earlier, seemingly out of nowhere, Trump had volunteered that he was considering a “military option” in Venezuela as that country’s last vestiges of democracy disappeared. Amid the international furor over his vow to rain down “fire and fury” on North Korea in the same golf-course press conference, the news that the president of the United States was apparently considering going to war with its third-largest oil supplier had gotten relatively little attention. But the leaders from Argentina, Brazil, Colombia and Panama invited to the dinner remembered it well.


So, it turned out, did Trump. After the photo op was over and the cameras had left the room, Trump dominated the long table. His vice president, Mike Pence, was to his right; Pence had just spent nearly a week on a conciliatory, well-received tour of the region, the first by a high-ranking administration official since Trump’s inauguration. To Trump’s left was his secretary of state, Rex Tillerson. “Rex tells me you don’t want me to use the military option in Venezuela,” the president told the gathered Latin American leaders, according to an account offered by an attendee soon after the dinner. “Is that right? Are you sure?” Everyone said they were sure. But they were rattled. War with Venezuela, as absurd as that seemed, was clearly still on Trump’s mind.

By the time the dinner was over, the leaders were in shock, and not just over the idle talk of armed conflict. No matter how prepared they were, eight months into an American presidency like no other, this was somehow not what they expected. A former senior U.S. official with whom I spoke was briefed by ministers from three of the four countries that attended the dinner. “Without fail, they just had wide eyes about the entire engagement,” the former official told me. Even if few took his martial bluster about Venezuela seriously, Trump struck them as uninformed about their issues and dangerously unpredictable, asking them to expend political capital on behalf of a U.S. that no longer seemed a reliable partner. “The word they all used was: ‘This guy is insane.’”

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By the fall, it was clear to those who had hoped it might be otherwise: The grownups might be in the room with Trump, but they couldn’t always deliver. “I invested in McMaster,” said the European official, “but I see in retrospect he is scared to come out and oppose some of the views of Trump. He is nowhere as strong as all my previous counterparts.” In the first few months, many of Trump’s critics overseas had kept their mouths shut, fearing a Trumpian eruption or Twitter blast. Now, they started speaking up as German Chancellor Merkel did after that disastrous May summit in Brussels. In private, there was talk—not necessarily realistic—of how Merkel and France’s energetic new centrist leader, Emmanuel Macron, would have to fill the West’s leadership void. The Latin Americans who met for dinner with Trump in September told the former U.S. official afterward that maybe they should invite the Chinese into the region instead.

CrimsonFox 01-03-2018 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 3190358)
Not in Utah. Nope.


Mormon church president just died. Think that'll change things?

BishopMVP 01-03-2018 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3190362)
Roy Moore was always a weak GOP candidate. It just was that Alabama was red enough that it didn't matter.

Romney, in Utah, is a very strong candidate.

I also think Romney would be a good senator from Utah for the rest of the country. And I think he'd be a pretty good senator from Massachusetts if he'd gone that route. He just needs to end any national delusions.

Ben E Lou 01-03-2018 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3190391)

At this point, the two of them just need to tweet out pics of their junk and be done with it.

bob 01-03-2018 08:13 AM

So what's going to happen to everyone's paychecks in 2018? Previously, we all had filled out W4 forms with allowances that at least somewhat matched exemptions.... but now that exemptions are gone, are W4s invalid?

Maybe not the best place to post it, but this thread has been a catch all for the tax law changes.

NobodyHere 01-03-2018 09:31 AM

Bannon: 2016 Trump Tower meeting was 'treasonous'

albionmoonlight 01-03-2018 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob (Post 3190428)
So what's going to happen to everyone's paychecks in 2018? Previously, we all had filled out W4 forms with allowances that at least somewhat matched exemptions.... but now that exemptions are gone, are W4s invalid?

Maybe not the best place to post it, but this thread has been a catch all for the tax law changes.


Great question. I REALLY don't want to be surprised by the changes. I put my info into some of those really simple "calculate your taxes under the new law" things online, and I got that we'll be paying ~$1,000 more (my fault for working for a living instead of having rich parents and a trust fund). That's doable, but I'd like to have that taken out over the course of the year.

My fear, though, is that the IRS won't do it because they want everyone to think that they got a tax break, so they won't actually withhold enough.

Ben E Lou 01-03-2018 12:31 PM

So teh Donald just unloaded on Bannon.


HomerSimpson98 01-03-2018 12:33 PM

Im having a hard time separating reality from reality TV-like bullshit.

This is surreal.

Ben E Lou 01-03-2018 12:48 PM



ISiddiqui 01-03-2018 12:50 PM

Breitbart helped elect Trump. Turning against Bannon is going to kill him with his base.

albionmoonlight 01-03-2018 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikSand (Post 3148636)


huge goober


Boehner retires. Paul Ryan will retire. Bannon and Trump & his kids will all MAGA cage fight each other to death.

McConnell will end up being the last GOP man standing when this is all said and done. Long live the Goober.

JPhillips 01-03-2018 01:11 PM

That statement has Kushner all over it.

RainMaker 01-03-2018 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3190471)
Breitbart helped elect Trump. Turning against Bannon is going to kill him with his base.


I think Breitbart's reach is over-exaggerated. It's still pretty small time. I'd wager most of the people who voted for him don't know what Breitbart or don't have any allegiance to Bannon.

ISiddiqui 01-03-2018 01:24 PM

Where do you think the fake news gets generated from? Now, there is a chance that Fox News doesn't reiterate Breitbart articles if Bannon is turning on Trump, but we'll see.

RainMaker 01-03-2018 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3190478)
Where do you think the fake news gets generated from? Now, there is a chance that Fox News doesn't reiterate Breitbart articles if Bannon is turning on Trump, but we'll see.


Infowars, Federalist, there's a million of these sites and Twitter feeds around. Heck they started a giant fucking conspiracy theory over some guy posting crap on 4chan the other day.

RainMaker 01-03-2018 01:39 PM

I'll still never understand having access to all the information you could ever want and spend your day watching cable news instead.



Thomkal 01-03-2018 01:50 PM

:::makes some popcorn and gets ready to enjoy the Trump/Bannon sideshow.

Ben E Lou 01-03-2018 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3190482)
I'll still never understand having access to all the information you could ever want and spend your day watching cable news instead.

My observation/hypothesis is that he's more interested in what people are saying about him than in the information.

RainMaker 01-03-2018 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3190491)
My observation/hypothesis is that he's more interested in what people are saying about him than in the information.


He has the NSA!

Ben E Lou 01-03-2018 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3190492)
He has the NSA!

:D :D :D

To be more specific, I mean, "what is the news saying publicly about me so that everyone can hear it???" I think that's a huge deal for him.

AlexB 01-03-2018 02:57 PM

Obviously no way of knowing how much/if any of these are true, but stories of the extra TV in his room rings true.

10 explosive revelations from new Trump book - BBC News

Also would tie in with the timeline of his tweets in Rainmaker’s post if he watches TV immediately before/after working 9-5 (and clocked in 15 minutes late!)

Thomkal 01-03-2018 03:16 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/03/politics/manafort-lawsuit-robert-mueller-authority/index.html Manafort sues Mueller

bronconick 01-03-2018 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3190482)
I'll still never understand having access to all the information you could ever want and spend your day watching cable news instead.





He's not bright. TV news spoon feeding him is about as complex as he's capable of.

NobodyHere 01-03-2018 04:17 PM

North Korea accidentally hit one of its own cities with a missile, report says

Thomkal 01-03-2018 06:06 PM

Not a good day for Donald:

Trump signs order disbanding voter fraud commission

PilotMan 01-03-2018 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3190516)


Well it wasn't his fault. It was all because the states weren't participating, so that's all their fault. They have fraud and he tried to fix it, but the dark state wasn't interested, so he's still the best there ever was.

Abe Sargent 01-03-2018 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3190420)
At this point, the two of them just need to tweet out pics of their junk and be done with it.



That's one way for Bannon to defeat Trump Junk!

Atocep 01-03-2018 07:27 PM

From the exerts from this book, Trump is dumber than anyone imagined and those theorizing that he didn't actually want to win seem on point.

Conservatives actually elected a reality TV star that wasn't trying to win the election.

Thomkal 01-03-2018 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3190520)
Well it wasn't his fault. It was all because the states weren't participating, so that's all their fault. They have fraud and he tried to fix it, but the dark state wasn't interested, so he's still the best there ever was.


:::vomit::: :)

JPhillips 01-03-2018 10:49 PM





Wait, I thought it was all lies.

NobodyHere 01-03-2018 10:56 PM


Julio Riddols 01-03-2018 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3190400)
I guess he won't take credit for this:

Coal mining deaths double in 2017 | TheHill


He can say he brought back coal mining deaths.

SackAttack 01-03-2018 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3190541)




Wait, I thought it was all lies.


If you read the linked article, though, it's not 'just' a non-disclosure agreement. It's apparently also a "non-disparagement" agreement.

In other words, "you're not allowed to disclose what happens, but neither are you allowed to say anything that would make us look bad."

So they can go after him and say "he's a lying liar who lies, and he's in breach because he's passing off his defamatory lies as inside baseball, so he's doubly in breach."

Which doesn't matter a whit to the truth of what he's saying, but it gives them some cover to go after him while still pushing back against his specific claims.


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