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JeeberD 06-25-2009 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 2057802)
Columnist Peter Vescey's NBA sources indicate the Rockets are "leaning toward" trading Tracy McGrady, Carl Landry and Aaron Brooks to the Suns for Leandro Barbosa and Amare Stoudemire.

Stoudemire has been disgruntled in Phoenix for a while now, and ESPN's Ric Bucher reported on Thursday that he will indeed be traded. The Suns would acquire two solid young players in Landry and Brooks, while gaining financial flexibility with T-Mac's expiring $22 million contract. So far nothing is official, but stay tuned throughout what promises to be a hectic draft day.


I would hate to lose both Landry and Brooks in the deal, leaving us with Kyle Lowry as our sole PG. And it might give us the most injury prone frontcourt in the league with Amare and Yao. Yet the possibility of this trade excites me for some reason. Ah well, in Daryl Morey I trust...

Arles 06-25-2009 05:29 PM

Local Phoenix radio just said there's no interest from the Phoenix side in the Houston deal and that it's completely false. They did say there's some interest in a Golden State deal that would involve Biedrins, #7 and one other player (Belinelli or Wright).

Arles 06-25-2009 05:32 PM

They also just said this rumor - Suns move Ben Wallace's expiring contract + picks/cash to New orleans for Tyson Chandler. Sounds like Wallace will do a buyout - which would save the Hornets $3-4 million this season and over $13 million next season. Chandler would be a better fit in the Suns uptempo offense than Shaq.

Not sure I buy it, but it is interesting.

Icy 06-25-2009 06:33 PM

Draftexpress says that the trade of Sergio Rodriguez to Sacramento from Portland is done. Does it mean they want an Spanish there to help Rubio to adapt to the NBA quicker?

whomario 06-25-2009 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles (Post 2058468)
Local Phoenix radio just said there's no interest from the Phoenix side in the Houston deal and that it's completely false. They did say there's some interest in a Golden State deal that would involve Biedrins, #7 and one other player (Belinelli or Wright).


Now thereīs reports of both Wright and Belinelli in adition to Beans and the 7th pick, which would actually be good value all things considered :eek:

Hope Nash stays. If nothing else weīd get 1 or possibly 2 more years (pending on how his body keeps up) of vintage 7 seconds or less. And Wright and Biedrins better be prepared to get a lot of Pick and Roll passes all of a sudden, which both could be pretty good at from what i k now.
Plus the 7 might end up being Curry. Seriously, this team would really intrigue me.
And at 14 maybe Terrence Williams or Earl Clark ?
Plus Belinelli isnīt bad either, could end up being a solid 20 minute guy on a good team.

definitely an interesting idea :popcorn:

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Originally Posted by Icy (Post 2058543)
Draftexpress says that the trade of Sergio Rodriguez to Sacramento from Portland is done. Does it mean they want an Spanish there to help Rubio to adapt to the NBA quicker?


doubt it. Rodriguez wants to play, canīt see him going into veteran-mode and be a assistant coach in uniform ... I mean, Udrih is still there as well. But maybe Udrih will be traded ? (doubt it though, is overpaid and just not close to starting material. His per-minute production is highly subpar ... )
Doesnīt mean they wonīt draft a PG (Evans, Flynn), just that i canīt see them trading for Rodriguez because they want to take (and keep) Rubio.
Rubio might actually fall to the Wolves, who then could snatch him AND another player at 6 without doing another trade.

btw via draftexpress :

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7:35

No team or agent has any clue what is going to happen. That's the bottom line. Everyone is calling everyone and no one can really say what is going to happen.


those last 2 days have been crazy :eek:


Rubio could also go at 3, Presti apparently didnīt give any indicationa dn they did hire a law firm in spain. But who knows, right now itīs wild guessing all arround :D

Icy 06-25-2009 07:00 PM

Ouch, things look bad for Rubio, even if he is picked at #5, his contract won't be enough profitable to pay his release clause, so he might decide to stay in Spain.

whomario 06-25-2009 07:01 PM

no big surprise yet,

1)Griffin
2)Thabeet (what happens to Gasol ? Neither can move to the 4 spot, Gasol is a starter)
3)Harden (makes sense, they needed a 2 guard)
4)Evans (makes sense again, heīs gonna be good right away and fits next to Martin who doesnīt need the ball terribly much to score a ton)

Now the Wolves. Definitely gonna be a good and intriguing duo here at 5,6 for them. Rubio should be a lock for them to take, canīt pass on him with 2 picks here. Then Curry makes most sense ... Or they draft big and take Hill.

whomario 06-25-2009 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Icy (Post 2058558)
Ouch, things look bad for Rubio, even if he is picked at #5, his contract won't be enough profitable to pay his release clause, so he might decide to stay in Spain.


heīs stated yesterday though that heīs going to make it happen, no matter where picked. He looks pleased enough as well.

Icy 06-25-2009 07:06 PM

Finally.
Not a bad thing as it's a team rebuilding from zero with all those picks, so he could be the starter and have a ton of minutes. He said he didn't like the city weather but... anyway let's see what happens with his contract buyout.

On the other hand, i'm so happy about Sergio Rodriguez going to Sacramento, as he had no future in Portland. Let's see if he can finally show why he was for some time the most promising Spanish player.

MikeVic 06-25-2009 07:08 PM

I can't get to nba.com, fantastic.

whomario 06-25-2009 07:11 PM

What the ... ? Now this is a combination of picks that makes no sense at all if they donīt trade one of them ?
Not only do they take 2 PGs but also 2 PGs that lack a good outside shot so playing both together would be kind of a bad idea...

DeToxRox 06-25-2009 07:11 PM

Rubio's sponsors will pay his buyout.

Icy 06-25-2009 07:12 PM

Umm another guard? maybe Rubio will end in the Knicks by a trade as he wanted?

sterlingice 06-25-2009 07:14 PM

The all PG team they are making will be fun to watch ;)

SI

sterlingice 06-25-2009 07:16 PM

Knicks fans are so funny

SI

Big Fo 06-25-2009 07:16 PM

Knick fans thought they were getting Curry, tough luck.

Eaglesfan27 06-25-2009 07:16 PM

I love seeing Golden State doing that to the Knicks.

spleen1015 06-25-2009 07:17 PM

I was hoping Flynn somehow dropped to the Pacers.

Eaglesfan27 06-25-2009 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo (Post 2058439)
I like Lee and have never been a Carter fan but if Turkoglu resigns that will make a pretty nice starting five. I didn't know anything about Anderson but looking at his stats he seems like a decent rebounder and shooter who is 6'10''.

The ESPN.com trade machine says this is good for +7 wins next year so I'll focus on that instead of my dislike of Vince Carter. At least he only has two years left on his contract. With no Battie and Gortat likely on his way they'll have to get another big man at some point.



I would say better than a pretty nice starting 5. I think that would become the best starting 5 in the league. Nice move for Orlando.

miami_fan 06-25-2009 07:17 PM

NICE! Well, Don Nelson won't require him to play defense either so he is in good shape

Swaggs 06-25-2009 07:17 PM

Is Matt Millen the GM of the T-Wolves?

bhlloy 06-25-2009 07:17 PM

haha. hahaha. hahahaha. I don't actually dislike the Knicks but that was pretty funny. I think that's Karma for telling everybody for the last month that you plan to take a guy at a certain position.

whomario 06-25-2009 07:17 PM

Lol @ New Yorkīs collective uproar over the Warriors taking Curry :D

Curry meets Nelly-ball = :popcorn:

DeToxRox 06-25-2009 07:17 PM

Hill is the 3rd best player in the draft IMO, and the Knicks have him fall to their laps. If they pass on him, oh boy.

MikeVic 06-25-2009 07:19 PM

I wanna see Curry playing Nelly-ball.

Big Fo 06-25-2009 07:22 PM

lol at the little kid giving the thumbs down and his dad twisting his wrist into a thumbs up

Schmidty 06-25-2009 07:23 PM

The Knicks just drafted Mikki Moore.

bhlloy 06-25-2009 07:23 PM

That's a nice pick. Knicks fans are morons.

It is unreal how many busts there are in the NBA draft. When ESPN shows the first round picks from the last 5 years, it's like a who's who of crappy players and unheard of again Euro's. No wonder so many of these teams are picking high every year.

miami_fan 06-25-2009 07:24 PM

Who is better, Chris Bosh or Jordan Hill?;)

MikeVic 06-25-2009 07:29 PM

Thought he didn't want to play in Canada, otherwise I like the pick.

bhlloy 06-25-2009 07:32 PM

I think DeRozan could be a poor man's DWade, but he will need a lot of time to develop. He really didn't perform for SC at all until the last month of the season, and that was against college level defenders.

DeToxRox 06-25-2009 07:35 PM

Yeeesh. Jennings at 10?

sterlingice 06-25-2009 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 2058611)
Yeeesh. Jennings at 10?


Not saying it's a good pick, but what really is out there now?

SI

Atocep 06-25-2009 07:36 PM

Hollinger's draft rater has Jordan Hill and DeRozan as the two biggest busts in this draft. It rated Hill in the mid-20s, so not too huge of a bust but still a disappointment. It has DeRozan rated 54th, though.

It'll be interesting to see how they do.

DeToxRox 06-25-2009 07:36 PM

Detroit should take Maynor 15 if he is available but they'll take Mullens. So yeah, I am ready for a wasted pick.

DeToxRox 06-25-2009 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 2058613)
Not saying it's a good pick, but what really is out there now?

SI


Eric Maynor. Kid will be a stud.

Samdari 06-25-2009 07:38 PM

Don't congratulate the Knicks too much for that pick. Somehow, Hill is going to Minnesota for Rubio, probably with David Lee once the Knicks can sign him.

Atocep 06-25-2009 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 2058617)
Detroit should take Maynor 15 if he is available but they'll take Mullens. So yeah, I am ready for a wasted pick.


I honestly can't see how Maynor could go ahead of Ty Lawson.

MikeVic 06-25-2009 07:46 PM

Terrence Williams is the guy that carries a Barbie backpack and has Spongebob socks right?

Schmidty 06-25-2009 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 2058617)
Detroit should take Maynor 15 if he is available but they'll take Mullens. So yeah, I am ready for a wasted pick.


Good Lord, I hope that guarantee to Mullens is just a rumor. The guy is a stiff and a tool.

I'd take Earl Clark happily.

spleen1015 06-25-2009 07:50 PM

Larry Bird is a dumbass.

Eaglesfan27 06-25-2009 07:51 PM

I'm surprised that Hansbrough went that early.

DaddyTorgo 06-25-2009 07:51 PM

lol look - we have shitty PG's but we're going to take a big white stiff!

Schmidty 06-25-2009 07:51 PM

Bird's a racist.

miami_fan 06-25-2009 07:53 PM

Troy Mruphy, Mike Dunleavy........was there any doubt that Hansbrough would be the pick there?

DeToxRox 06-25-2009 07:53 PM

Ugh. Joe D just don't take Mullens or Daye. Please.

Schmidty 06-25-2009 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 2058644)
Ugh. Joe D just don't take Mullens or Daye. Please.


+1

spleen1015 06-25-2009 07:53 PM

There was mention locally that the Pacers were looking to trade for later picks with Chicago. I really hope that's what this is.

DeToxRox 06-25-2009 07:55 PM

The Pacers are petitioning to the NBA to include diving for loose balls as an official stat.

Schmidty 06-25-2009 07:56 PM

Damn. I would have liked Earl Clark.


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