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Barkeep49 05-13-2009 09:40 AM

Indeed. He is, to me, an example of a very big name that was still left on the board. I don't agree with the person(s) who said we don't have any big names left right now. I still can think of some others. Even Polo is a big name, and certainly an intriguing and well thought choice for Diplomat.

Coffee Warlord 05-13-2009 09:41 AM

As was Marco Polo. One of the few I hadn't even thought of, honestly.

Abe Sargent 05-13-2009 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 2020109)
Indeed. He is, to me, an example of a very big name that was still left on the board. I don't agree with the person(s) who said we don't have any big names left right now. I still can think of some others. Even Polo is a big name, and certainly an intriguing and well thought choice for Diplomat.


Thanks.

Alan T 05-13-2009 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 2020094)
Forgot to mention, he's United States 20th Century.



Yeah there are tons of American Air people that I would look at, but Glenn is near the top. Only other person that I was highly considering from the U.S. would have been Chuck Yeager (people know his test pilot feats, but not as many know about his military career or involvement in the cold war).

I'll leave my comments there, as I don't want to comment about non-americans that can still be chosen

Barkeep49 05-13-2009 09:45 AM

Hmm. Yeager didn't even cross my radar. Good thought Alan.

Abe Sargent 05-13-2009 09:46 AM

Ok, I need to get my next pick ready

Abe Sargent 05-13-2009 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 2020121)
Hmm. Yeager didn't even cross my radar. Good thought Alan.


I was going to take yeager in the 3rd, but Glenn is a really, really good choice too.

Alan T 05-13-2009 09:47 AM

I love the Polo pick.. who here doesn't honestly know the name Marco Polo from childhood games? Wow.. great pick.


Napolean is solid too, very solid.

lordscarlet 05-13-2009 10:03 AM

I think there are still a lot of great choices out there. It will be interesting to see the people that veer away from American-centric names.

Galaril 05-13-2009 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 2019818)
In a bad way. I think there are WAY better athletes that personify the nation. Jesse Owens, Mark Spitz and Mary Lou Retton come to mind.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 2019820)
dola- there's also the Jordan and Woods guys


I would of picked Gil Thorpe myself.

larrymcg421 05-13-2009 10:23 AM

Apathetic Lurker picks:


2.12 Josef Stalin, Leader/Ruler, Russia, 20th
3.1 Sir Arthur Harris, Air Chief, Great Britain, 20th

Noop 05-13-2009 10:26 AM

Crap. I had Machiavelli as my next pick.

Abe Sargent 05-13-2009 10:28 AM

Nope, I took Marco Polo as Italy Chief Diplomat, Machiavelli may not be taken there.

Surtt 05-13-2009 10:28 AM

3.2 Dalai Lama, Religious Leader, China, Post-20th
(big hitter, the Lama)

larrymcg421 05-13-2009 10:28 AM

oops, I'll fix that

Abe Sargent 05-13-2009 10:29 AM

I'm going to hold up and not pick until larry rewinds the picks. Machiavelli cannot be taken for Italy and Chief Diplomat

Lathum 05-13-2009 10:31 AM

can we petition Tibet to be the country of the Dalai Lama?

Surtt 05-13-2009 10:31 AM

I already had my pick up when I saw it.

Surtt 05-13-2009 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 2020213)
can we petition Tibet to be the country of the Dalai Lama?


I looked it up to be sure.
It is officially part of China now.

I am ok with it either way, I will change it if everyone thinks I should.

Abe Sargent 05-13-2009 10:33 AM

Yup, Tibet is not a recognized country by the UN.

larrymcg421 05-13-2009 10:33 AM

Fixed. It didn't conflict with surtt's pick.

Abe Sargent 05-13-2009 10:33 AM

Siddhartha Buddha, India, Religious Leader, Pre20th

Lathum 05-13-2009 10:34 AM

I am aware of all that, hence my use of the word petition.

Barkeep49 05-13-2009 10:35 AM

Man I can't believe I didn't think of the Dali Lama. Buddha, however, was certainly a great pick.

DaddyTorgo 05-13-2009 10:38 AM

have we discussed yet (seriously) how we assign countries to people? is it where the person was born? the citizenship they held? what's the determinant?

Barkeep49 05-13-2009 10:40 AM

We've generally taken a fairly lassiz-faire approach to that sort of thing.

DaddyTorgo 05-13-2009 10:43 AM

gotcha

DaddyTorgo 05-13-2009 10:44 AM

idk that it applies to what i'm thinking, was just curious

Barkeep49 05-13-2009 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 2020241)
We've generally taken a fairly lassiz-faire approach to that sort of thing.

Someone (larry?) correct me if I'm mistaken.

larrymcg421 05-13-2009 10:46 AM

You can pick birth, or if someone spent most of their life in a country, and is known for that country, then you can use that also. As long as there is some connection to that country, so someone doesn't pick FDR for Bangladesh, then I'll leave it up to the voters.

DaddyTorgo 05-13-2009 10:49 AM

lol ok

Barkeep49 05-13-2009 11:01 AM

Sorry. Forgot Abe was right before on this way in the Sepentine. Pick will be coming soon.

Galaril 05-13-2009 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2020237)
have we discussed yet (seriously) how we assign countries to people? is it where the person was born? the citizenship they held? what's the determinant?


Yeah, I was wondering that too?

Barkeep49 05-13-2009 11:08 AM

Alexander the Great (Greece) Military Leader Pre-20th

Abe Sargent 05-13-2009 11:08 AM

???

Barkeep49 05-13-2009 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 2020296)
Alexander the Great (Greece) Military Leader Pre-20th

Strike that. Somehow missed him in the third pick.

Barkeep49 05-13-2009 11:09 AM

Couldn't believe my good luck there for a very good reason :).

DaddyTorgo 05-13-2009 11:09 AM

BK - he was picked way long ago. like...top 5

DaddyTorgo 05-13-2009 11:09 AM

lol

Abe Sargent 05-13-2009 11:10 AM

You can't have my picks BK.

Alan T 05-13-2009 11:10 AM

Now he has to settle for John the Above Average instead!

larrymcg421 05-13-2009 11:11 AM

Added my answer to the birth question in the first post so everyone can see it.

Barkeep49 05-13-2009 11:11 AM

Wasn't originally planning on pick this category, but after I thought Alexander was free, this name popped into mind and it seems like a better pick here than any of the people who had been on my board:

Ghengis Khan - Millitary Leader Mongolia (Pre-20th)
Just as Alexander stretched the boundries of the West, Khan stretched the boundries of the east.

Coffee Warlord 05-13-2009 11:11 AM

Or Ed the Slightly Better then Normal?

Coffee Warlord 05-13-2009 11:12 AM

Oh so you suck. He was next for me.

DaddyTorgo 05-13-2009 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 2020306)
Wasn't originally planning on pick this category, but after I thought Alexander was free, this name popped into mind and it seems like a better pick here than any of the people who had been on my board:

Ghengis Khan - Millitary Leader Mongolia (Pre-20th)
Just as Alexander stretched the boundries of the West, Khan stretched the boundries of the east.


ass - he was on my list to try to pick up later as i figured he'd drop

DaddyTorgo 05-13-2009 11:13 AM

oh - well i guess i wouldn't have gotten him then - LOL

Barkeep49 05-13-2009 11:13 AM

Obviously his being Mongolian doesn't really block anyone in the category, but I'm just fine with that.

Barkeep49 05-13-2009 11:15 AM

BTW, the Stalin pick hasn't gotten much discussion. I'm going to be interested to see how voters react to someone like Stalin. Clearly he was a fantastic ruler/leader, of a certain style. But he's also one of history's villains, and since this is a Building Country Draft, will that matter? Or will his ruthless effectiveness matter more?

Abe Sargent 05-13-2009 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 2020312)
Obviously his being Mongolian doesn't really block anyone in the category, but I'm just fine with that.


Untrue


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