Indeed. He is, to me, an example of a very big name that was still left on the board. I don't agree with the person(s) who said we don't have any big names left right now. I still can think of some others. Even Polo is a big name, and certainly an intriguing and well thought choice for Diplomat.

As was Marco Polo. One of the few I hadn't even thought of, honestly.

Thanks.

Yeah there are tons of American Air people that I would look at, but Glenn is near the top. Only other person that I was highly considering from the U.S. would have been Chuck Yeager (people know his test pilot feats, but not as many know about his military career or involvement in the cold war).

I'll leave my comments there, as I don't want to comment about non-americans that can still be chosen

Hmm. Yeager didn't even cross my radar. Good thought Alan.

Ok, I need to get my next pick ready

I was going to take yeager in the 3rd, but Glenn is a really, really good choice too.

I love the Polo pick.. who here doesn't honestly know the name Marco Polo from childhood games? Wow.. great pick.


Napolean is solid too, very solid.

I think there are still a lot of great choices out there. It will be interesting to see the people that veer away from American-centric names.

I would of picked Gil Thorpe myself.

Apathetic Lurker picks:


2.12 Josef Stalin, Leader/Ruler, Russia, 20th
3.1 Sir Arthur Harris, Air Chief, Great Britain, 20th

Crap. I had Machiavelli as my next pick.

Nope, I took Marco Polo as Italy Chief Diplomat, Machiavelli may not be taken there.

3.2 Dalai Lama, Religious Leader, China, Post-20th
(big hitter, the Lama)

oops, I'll fix that

I'm going to hold up and not pick until larry rewinds the picks. Machiavelli cannot be taken for Italy and Chief Diplomat

can we petition Tibet to be the country of the Dalai Lama?

I already had my pick up when I saw it.

I looked it up to be sure.
It is officially part of China now.

I am ok with it either way, I will change it if everyone thinks I should.

Yup, Tibet is not a recognized country by the UN.

Fixed. It didn't conflict with surtt's pick.

I am aware of all that, hence my use of the word petition.

Man I can't believe I didn't think of the Dali Lama. Buddha, however, was certainly a great pick.

have we discussed yet (seriously) how we assign countries to people? is it where the person was born? the citizenship they held? what's the determinant?

We've generally taken a fairly lassiz-faire approach to that sort of thing.

gotcha

idk that it applies to what i'm thinking, was just curious

Someone (larry?) correct me if I'm mistaken.

You can pick birth, or if someone spent most of their life in a country, and is known for that country, then you can use that also. As long as there is some connection to that country, so someone doesn't pick FDR for Bangladesh, then I'll leave it up to the voters.

lol ok

Sorry. Forgot Abe was right before on this way in the Sepentine. Pick will be coming soon.

Yeah, I was wondering that too?

???

Strike that. Somehow missed him in the third pick.

Couldn't believe my good luck there for a very good reason :).

BK - he was picked way long ago. like...top 5

lol

You can't have my picks BK.

Now he has to settle for John the Above Average instead!

Added my answer to the birth question in the first post so everyone can see it.

Wasn't originally planning on pick this category, but after I thought Alexander was free, this name popped into mind and it seems like a better pick here than any of the people who had been on my board:

Ghengis Khan - Millitary Leader Mongolia (Pre-20th)
Just as Alexander stretched the boundries of the West, Khan stretched the boundries of the east.

Or Ed the Slightly Better then Normal?

Oh so you suck. He was next for me.

ass - he was on my list to try to pick up later as i figured he'd drop

oh - well i guess i wouldn't have gotten him then - LOL

Obviously his being Mongolian doesn't really block anyone in the category, but I'm just fine with that.

BTW, the Stalin pick hasn't gotten much discussion. I'm going to be interested to see how voters react to someone like Stalin. Clearly he was a fantastic ruler/leader, of a certain style. But he's also one of history's villains, and since this is a Building Country Draft, will that matter? Or will his ruthless effectiveness matter more?

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