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Draft Dodger 08-02-2005 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny93g
the teams that are giving these contracts out may be better this year, but will hurt themself in the future......I guess you need to overspend to get players in the free agent market, but I think this will come back and bite some of these teams in the ass

BTW, Kings, Demitra, thats a great signing


agreed.
although they need another proven talent at forward (Modano?) or two to keep pressure off him. He is best when he doesn't have to do it all himself. Forsberg (*sob*) would be an interesting fit here...

TazFTW 08-02-2005 02:33 PM

A guy at Eklund's message boards is saying he heard The Ticket say that the Stars have offered Modano a 3 year $12 million deal. Hopefully that is enough to make him consider staying.

Honolulu_Blue 08-02-2005 02:34 PM

I mentioned it earlier, but it merits another mention.

If Adam Foote is making $4.5 million, Zubov $4 million, Nieuwendyk and Roberts each $2.5 million, Hatcher and Rathje pulling down $3.5 million, and Demetria at $4.5 million, I am begining to think that perhaps the players didn't get screwed quite so badly after all. Sure, they could have demanded a bit more in a no-cap NHL, but these aren't bad salaries. Unless one of these guys adopts Latrell Sprewell's family, they aren't going starve.

Draft Dodger 08-02-2005 02:42 PM

right - Foote got a freaking raise, for crying out loud. and remember, the minimum salary went up substantially to (up to 450,000 or something), so it's not like the low-end guys are going to get screwed over either.

odd. I really didn't expect this.

TazFTW 08-02-2005 02:43 PM

Kings sign Jason Labarbera. I didn't even know he was a FA. I guess this means the Rangers will have Lundqvist as the backup goalie. Unless the Rangers feel Al Montoya is the better of the two.

JonInMiddleGA 08-02-2005 02:46 PM

from ajc.com
Making the biggest free-agent signing in their history, the Thrashers signed free-agent center Bobby Holik, a two-time Stanley Cup champion who fits the bill of the big, physical two-way center they have always needed but never had.

Holik's agent Mike Gillis confirmed that the deal is for three years. The Thrashers were temporarily withholding comment. The Canadian Web site Sportsnet.ca reported that the first year of the contract would pay Holik $4.25 million.

Karim 08-02-2005 02:46 PM

NOTES -- First pick Sidney Crosby hits the American national-television talk circuit Thursday, appearing on "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno" while training in Los Angeles.

Maple Leafs 08-02-2005 02:48 PM

Sportsnet is consistently beating TSN on these signings. I don't think TSN has scooped one yet.

Karim 08-02-2005 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs
Sportsnet is consistently beating TSN on these signings. I don't think TSN has scooped one yet.


Bob's on holidays. ;)

TazFTW 08-02-2005 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bbor
If the obstruction rules are called this season the Flyers are in trouble...if they are'nt called...the Flyers may win the cup.


I agree. If they really crackdown on obstruction then those signings are going to be busts.


The Holik signing. Would he be the #1 center? I don't see Holik gelling with Heatley and Kovalchuk (provided the Thrashers are able to keep Heatley and Kovalchuk).

HomerJSimpson 08-02-2005 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW
I agree. If they really crackdown on obstruction then those signings are going to be busts.


The Holik signing. Would he be the #1 center? I don't see Holik gelling with Heatley and Kovalchuk (provided the Thrashers are able to keep Heatley and Kovalchuk).


They should. Waddell swears he'll match any offer.

JonInMiddleGA 08-02-2005 04:33 PM

from Roto Times ...
The Bruins signed free agent winger Shawn McEachern to a free agent deal on Tuesday, according to the TSN.ca. McEachern, who played the 1995-96 season with the Bruins, had 55 points in 82 games with the Thrashers in 2003-04.

re: Holik signing & lines ...Maybe, assuming I've managed to figure out who is still here & who is gone/leaving, it's Savard on the 1st line with Heatley & Kovalchuk, Holik centering the 2nd line with Kozlov & Mellanby/Petrovicky, and Stefan on the 3rd line with Vigier & Petrovicky/Mellanby?

klayman 08-02-2005 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue
I mentioned it earlier, but it merits another mention.

If Adam Foote is making $4.5 million, Zubov $4 million, Nieuwendyk and Roberts each $2.5 million, Hatcher and Rathje pulling down $3.5 million, and Demetria at $4.5 million, I am begining to think that perhaps the players didn't get screwed quite so badly after all. Sure, they could have demanded a bit more in a no-cap NHL, but these aren't bad salaries. Unless one of these guys adopts Latrell Sprewell's family, they aren't going starve.


Do I smell another lockout brewing? :)

Draft Dodger 08-02-2005 05:30 PM

Florida signs Martin Gelinas.

do they know they can sign guys who aren't ex-Flames?

Karim 08-02-2005 05:47 PM

Amonte signs with the Flames for $3.6 million/2 years.

Honolulu_Blue 08-02-2005 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Karim
Amonte signs with the Flames for $3.6 million/2 years.


I also heard a rumor that McCarty signed a two year deal with the Flames as well.

Joe Canadian 08-02-2005 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Karim
Amonte signs with the Flames for $3.6 million/2 years.

There's Gelinas' replacement...

Joe Canadian 08-02-2005 06:02 PM

Rumors: Leafs sign Lindros & Allison...

Karim 08-02-2005 06:02 PM

McCarty is a heavy rumour. None of the on-line sites have verified the Amonte signing which was broken/confirmed by local media.

Karim 08-02-2005 06:21 PM

Gelinas got $1.8 or $1.9 million/2 years.

Karim 08-02-2005 06:24 PM

Stillman to Carolina for $5.25 million/3 years.
Zhitnik to the Island for 4 years.

sachmo71 08-02-2005 06:25 PM

Demitra for 4.5 million...what a crazy offseason!
Too bad about Hatcher, I guess. I wonder if the Stars actually did offer him something. Maybe he's forgiven Hitchcock?

Karim 08-02-2005 06:26 PM

Detroit radio saying McCarty signed for $2.2 million/2 years with Calgary. No local or on-line confirmation yet.

Karim 08-02-2005 06:28 PM

Martin Straka and Marek Malik sign with the Rangers. No terms yet. They've also re-signed Weekes.

Draft Dodger 08-02-2005 06:37 PM

talk about the dam bursting...

Simms 08-02-2005 06:38 PM

Several Dallas radio stations reporting Modano has re-signed. Apparently supported by this: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont....35a26a5e.html

Maple Leafs 08-02-2005 06:41 PM

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The Stars offer is a total of $17.5 million or an average of $3.5 million per season. Modano said there still is an offer from Boston for four years and $20 million.
So Mike Modano is worth less than Bobby Holik? Whu?

Honolulu_Blue 08-02-2005 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs
So Mike Modano is worth less than Bobby Holik? Whu?


Almost everyone is worth less than Bobby Holik. It's been that way for years! No reason some stupid new-fangled CBA should change that.

Simms 08-02-2005 06:48 PM

Eklund-fueled rumours:

- Habs in discussions for Forsberg
- Khabibulin to Chicago ("90% done")
- Allison to Toronto ("definite"; no surprise)
- Panthers pushing for Pronger (also not really new news)
- Boston going after Leetch

Karim 08-02-2005 06:52 PM

Dave Scatchard to Boston for 4 years.

Honolulu_Blue 08-02-2005 06:53 PM

Karim is ENFUEGO!!!

Karim 08-02-2005 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue
Karim is ENFUEGO!!!


I don't know what that means but if it's good, I'm that!

Karim 08-02-2005 07:05 PM

Flames press conference tomorrow at 2:30 p.m. for, as Sutter said, "two players out east", playing coy as usual.

HB, can McCarty play LW?

Honolulu_Blue 08-02-2005 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Karim
Flames press conference tomorrow at 2:30 p.m. for, as Sutter said, "two players out east", playing coy as usual.

HB, can McCarty play LW?


Well, he typically played on the right in Detroit. I don't think I ever remember him playing LW, but I am sure he could do it in a pinch.

It will be odd to see McCarty in another sweater. Just so many great moments and memories about the guy. He epitomizes hockey in Detroit. He will be good to have during your EIGHT games against the Forces of Darkness(tm). He plays very well against them. He likes to beat on their less reputable players. Score OT goals on them. Even recorded his only NHL hattrick against them.

JeffR 08-02-2005 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Karim
Flames press conference tomorrow at 2:30 p.m. for, as Sutter said, "two players out east", playing coy as usual.

HB, can McCarty play LW?


Amonte and McCarty, I guess.

Don't think McCarty's ever played on the left, but I seem to remember Chuck Kobasew being on that side before, so maybe he's the one to move over.

JeffR 08-02-2005 08:17 PM

Sportsnet just announced McCarty in Calgary for $1.6M over 2 years.

Karim 08-02-2005 08:38 PM

Amonte - Langkow - Iginla ???
Simon - Wiemer - McCarty ???

Amonte played for Darryl Sutter in Chicago so that probably helped.

JeffR 08-02-2005 08:54 PM

I'm surprised at the length of these deals. 4-5 year contracts for guys in their middle 30's. I think some teams, the Flyers in particular, are painting themselves into a corner a few years down the road. Their young guys will want bigger deals while these worn-out (by that point) veterans making 3+ million will still be around. Clarke even gave Mike Rathje, who's no better than a #3 defenseman, a no-trade clause in his 5-year deal. Some GM's need a reminder that this isn't the NFL and those are guaranteed contracts.

RPI-Fan 08-02-2005 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Karim
Stillman to Carolina for $5.25 million/3 years.
Zhitnik to the Island for 4 years.


YES! We did something! Our first free agent move in three (real) offseasons!!!

Also, Straka is a FABULOUS pick-up for the Rangers -- great player for the "new" NHL.

Johnny93g 08-02-2005 09:04 PM

I like the Stillman addition, and the Amonte addition......dont like the Straka addition. I think Straka is done, and is probably overpaid too....

Draft Dodger 08-02-2005 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny93g
I like the Stillman addition, and the Amonte addition......dont like the Straka addition. I think Straka is done, and is probably overpaid too....


yep, Straka's done no matter what NHL this is

Johnny93g 08-02-2005 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger
yep, Straka's done no matter what NHL this is


DD, we seem to be agreeing alot these days

Draft Dodger 08-02-2005 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny93g
DD, we seem to be agreeing alot these days


I know. scary scary stuff.

General Mike 08-02-2005 09:45 PM

Come on Lou, do something :(

Booj 08-02-2005 10:32 PM

Out of all the guys the Habs were rumored to be in the running for, only Aucoin has signed... I'm not worried.... yet.

Simms 08-02-2005 10:36 PM

Eklund says Marty Lapointe to Ottawa -- "4 years, 2.1". Not sure if that's 2.1 total, or 2.1 per ... but I haven't seen it confirmed anywhere else yet, at any rate.

Maple Leafs 08-02-2005 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Simms
Eklund says Marty Lapointe to Ottawa -- "4 years, 2.1". Not sure if that's 2.1 total, or 2.1 per ... but I haven't seen it confirmed anywhere else yet, at any rate.

Seriously, could we get all these reporter types to standardize on a format for reporting contracts?

(If it's 2.1 total, Muckler is a genius.)

sterlingice 08-02-2005 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger
so, if my math is right...

Hatcher signed a 5 year deal for $6.5 Million.
He played...er, rehabbed one season at that price.
Last year didn't happen.
New salary is 4.94 million, of which he has 3 years left.
2/3 buyout is 3.31 million * 3, or $9.9 Million.

so, basically, the Wings paid $16.4 million for the 15 regular season and 12 postseason games Hatcher played. For that $16.4 million, they got 0 goals, 5 assists, 23 penalty minutes and 30 shots on net. Hatcher was a +4.

Neat


Beautiful post :D

SI

TazFTW 08-02-2005 11:06 PM

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=132175

Report:Modano inks 5-year deal with Stars


TSN.ca Staff



8/2/2005 10:16:08 PM

After speculation that he may be on the move to another city, it appears that Mike Modano will remain - and most likely finish his career - with the Dallas Stars.

According to RDS.ca, Modano signed a five-year deal to remain with the same organization that drafted him in 1988. Terms of the deal were not disclosed.

On Monday, reports indicated that Modano would sign with one of three teams that were courting the forward's services - the Boston Bruins, Atlanta Thrashers and Pittsburgh Penguins.

Drafted by the Minnesota North Stars in the 1st round (1st overall), Modano has collected 458 goals and 1106 points in 1101 career games.




sterlingice 08-02-2005 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue
The return of Osgood. Yes. Well, I can't see that ending any other way than badly, even though I think he was a fine (adequate) goalie and wasn't to blame for the Wings playoff collapses between '99-'01.


Well, on that front, both can be true. Osgood was adequate (read: 15th best goalie in the NHL, give or take) but not good enough to win a Stanley Cup by himself ala Roy, Brodeur, etc. That said, he wasn't the one who only scored about a goal a game while losing playoff series.

SI


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