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Barkeep49 07-07-2009 07:47 PM

Here's what I have:

The Jackal: clap (453, 1:55 pm)
BrianD: Pass (330, 8:23)
NTN: JAG (332, 8:31) Jackal (374, 10:26 AM) KWhit (390, 10:45 AM) king (425, 12:26 PM) thomkal (441, 1:42 pm) Tyrith (514, 3:44 PM) PB (517, 3:47 PM) Schmidty (537, 5:48)
PB: Eagle (334, 8:59 AM) isiddiqui (471, 2:24 PM) saldana (501, 3:22 PM) path (546, 6:03) ntn (560, 6:14)
KWhit: nfg (482, 2:39 PM) CR (565, 6:44) Brian (579, 7:22) Autumn (581, 7:27) DT (595, 7:39) Telle (598, 7:42)

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 07:48 PM

i'm trying to keep the hot pics of my daughter SFW - otherwise I'd toss up some of those Maxim shots in the bikini or the lil tiny outfits

Barkeep49 07-07-2009 07:50 PM

Disregard.

Telle 07-07-2009 07:50 PM

And a whole lot of sudden movement to KWhit, so let's try this again.. votes as of post #605:

1 - The Jackal - claphamsa (453)
1 - BrianD - Passacaglia (330)
7 - ntndeacon - JAG (332), The Jackal (374), KWhit (390), king (425), Thomkal (441), Tyrith (514), Schmidty (537)
4 - PurdueBrad - EagleFan (334), saldana (501), path (546), ntndeacon (560)
9 - KWhit - nfg22 (482), Chief Rum (565), BrianD (579), Autumn (581), DaddyTorgo (595), Telle (598), ISiddiqui (599), Alan T (600), PurdueBrad (602)

Autumn 07-07-2009 07:50 PM

This is a revised version of one someone posted at 522, I didn't check their work (or mine really)

8 - ntndeacon: JAG (332, 8:31 AM), The Jackal (374, 10:26 AM), KWhit (390, 10:45 AM), kingfc22 (425, 12:22 PM), Thomkal (441, 1:42 PM), Tyrith (514, 3:44 PM), PurdueBrad (517, 3:47 PM), Schmidty (537, 6:48 pm)
4 - PurdueBrad: EagleFan (334, 8:59 AM), saldana (501, 3:22 PM), path12 (546, 7:03 PM), ntndeacon (559, 7:12 PM)
8 - KWhit: nfg22 (482, 2:39 PM), Chief Rum (565, 7:44 PM), BrianD (579, 8:22 PM), Autumn (581, 8:27 PM), DaddyTorgo (595, 8:39 PM), Telle (598, 8:42 PM), Isiddiqui (599, 8:44 PM), AlanT (600, 8:44 PM)
1 - The Jackal: claphamsa (453, 1:55 PM)
1 - BrianD: Pass (330, 8:23 AM)

Yet to vote: Danny, henry296,

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 07:51 PM

ooooh - lynch

Autumn 07-07-2009 07:52 PM

Wow I guess we should have picked one of us to do that, lol.

Barkeep49 07-07-2009 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 2066766)
LYNCH as of post 602. Results in a moment.

Disregard my earlier post. I made a mistake.

Alan T 07-07-2009 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 2066773)
Disregard my earlier post. I made a mistake.


What a tease!

claphamsa 07-07-2009 07:53 PM

why are we voting kwhit?

Autumn 07-07-2009 07:53 PM

lol, funny

PurdueBrad 07-07-2009 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa (Post 2066775)
why are we voting kwhit?


Because he wasn't me.

And Jack Bauer said so.

Autumn 07-07-2009 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telle (Post 2066768)
And a whole lot of sudden movement to KWhit, so let's try this again.. votes as of post #605:

1 - The Jackal - claphamsa (453)
1 - BrianD - Passacaglia (330)
7 - ntndeacon - JAG (332), The Jackal (374), KWhit (390), king (425), Thomkal (441), Tyrith (514), Schmidty (537)
4 - PurdueBrad - EagleFan (334), saldana (501), path (546), ntndeacon (560)
9 - KWhit - nfg22 (482), Chief Rum (565), BrianD (579), Autumn (581), DaddyTorgo (595), Telle (598), ISiddiqui (599), Alan T (600), PurdueBrad (602)


Quoting this because I believe it's more up to date than mine.

I believe we need 10 votes to hit 40% so I'm guessing maybe we need at least that at this point.

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 07:54 PM

well one more on kwhit would do it i think (10/24)

Telle 07-07-2009 07:54 PM

Percentages:

4% - The Jackal
4% - BrianD
29% - ntndeacon
17% - purduebrad
38% - KWhit

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa (Post 2066775)
why are we voting kwhit?


would you rather we vote for you?

PurdueBrad 07-07-2009 07:56 PM

If I read the above right, my vote lynched KWhit as BK's original post, pre-edit, said lynch as of post 600 and now reads 602. Or are you guys reading it that the 602 lynch is wrong too?

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad (Post 2066784)
If I read the above right, my vote lynched KWhit as BK's original post, pre-edit, said lynch as of post 600 and now reads 602. Or are you guys reading it that the 602 lynch is wrong too?


nope you're wrong. we need 10/24 to hit 40%

path12 07-07-2009 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 2066713)
I am going to go with KWhit to try to introduce a third candidate, although I suspect it won't make a difference. It's a bad spot to drop a vote, but I'm afraid I don't have a choice right now. I feel better putting up someone to give us more options than to have a hand in lynching someone I admit at this point I have not been able to read up enough in thread to make a really good case for. I will be catching up tonight after golf.

VOTE KWHIT


Is it me or is it a really odd thing for Chief to throwaway a day 1 vote? Between that and something else he said earlier (I'll have to go find it but it was about not speculating or something like that...un-Chieflike) he's gotten himself on my radar.

PurdueBrad 07-07-2009 07:59 PM

Gracias, thanks DT.

JAG 07-07-2009 07:59 PM

I don't feel great about this, but Jack seems to want it and I gotta go with him.

Unvote ntndeacon
Vote KWhit

Autumn 07-07-2009 08:00 PM

Well, this will be interesting.

Barkeep49 07-07-2009 08:01 PM

Lynch occurred at 7:58. Writeup shortly.

Alan T 07-07-2009 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2066779)
Quoting this because I believe it's more up to date than mine.

I believe we need 10 votes to hit 40% so I'm guessing maybe we need at least that at this point.


I'm not going to go into specifics, but we're at 40% on Kwhit at this point and it was not enough yet. I know there are only 9 votes, but you'll just have to trust me on this one.

I'm only saying this so we don't have issues trying to do the math later on this. My guess is at 9pm ET we hit the 40% mark. I'll be interested to see if he gets lynched at 9 without any votes moving to him.

ISiddiqui 07-07-2009 08:02 PM

Seems like you were seconds too late with that write up, Alan :D.

path12 07-07-2009 08:02 PM

Yet again, it becomes clear I should read all the way through before commenting. Never mind on the throwaway vote comment.

Alan T 07-07-2009 08:03 PM

Ahh well, JAG moved his vote.. But my guess is that 40% is the required amount needed at 23 hours after the previous lynch. We were only at 22 hours+ at that point. Once again, I know the math I am throwing out doesn't match what everyone knows to be the case, but you have to trust me on this one. So the lynch with JAG's vote was 10 votes, but it should be worth at least 11.

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 08:03 PM

hmm

JAG 07-07-2009 08:03 PM

Alright, well that explains the 7:58 instead of 7:59 I was going to question.

Danny 07-07-2009 08:04 PM

I thought the 40% started at 9pm central? Damn, got caught up and didn't even get my vote in

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 08:04 PM

bah - does that mean we lynched PB or something?

path12 07-07-2009 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 2066799)
Once again, I know the math I am throwing out doesn't match what everyone knows to be the case, but you have to trust me on this one. So the lynch with JAG's vote was 10 votes, but it should be worth at least 11.


If you had yelled that part it would have been just like the show!

Autumn 07-07-2009 08:05 PM

Ah, so it was the ticking of the clock (where's Poli) that did it, not Jag's vote.

Barkeep49 07-07-2009 08:06 PM

The investigation is uneasy at first. No real leads have been made as to who might be working with the Conspiracy. Little has been done, though agents were recently called to a local hospital by doctors there. The reason why has not yet been established.

Meanwhile, back at headquarters, it is decided that KWhit simply can't be trusted anymore and so you decide to revoke Michelle Dressler's security clearance. A thorough search of her house and work leads one to believe that there is no reason to believe she was a member of the Conspiracy. Instead you lose an intelligence asset.


Quote:

You are Michelle Dressler, an intelligence expert at CTU. Once per calendar week you may issue a wiretap on a player. For 15 minutes all PMs sent/received by that player will be sent to you. However all names, including the recipient and sender will be redacted. Conditional orders will be accepted.

The lynch timer resets with this post.


Final vote count:
The Jackal: clap (453, 1:55 pm)
BrianD: Pass (330, 8:23)
NTN: JAG (332, 8:31) Jackal (374, 10:26 AM) KWhit (390, 10:45 AM) king (425, 12:26 PM) thomkal (441, 1:42 pm) Tyrith (514, 3:44 PM) Schmidty (537, 5:48)
PB: Eagle (334, 8:59 AM) saldana (501, 3:22 PM) path (546, 6:03) ntn (560, 6:14)
KWhit: nfg (482, 2:39 PM) CR (565, 6:44) Brian (579, 7:22) Autumn (581, 7:27) DT (595, 7:39) Telle (598, 7:42) ISiddiqui (599 7:44) Alan (600 7:44) PB (602, 7:44)

JAG 07-07-2009 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 2066799)
Ahh well, JAG moved his vote.. But my guess is that 40% is the required amount needed at 23 hours after the previous lynch. We were only at 22 hours+ at that point. Once again, I know the math I am throwing out doesn't match what everyone knows to be the case, but you have to trust me on this one. So the lynch with JAG's vote was 10 votes, but it should be worth at least 11.


Right, if it wasn't 40% at 22+ hrs the lynch wouldn't have occurred at 7:58pm CST it would've been at 8pm CST.

ISiddiqui 07-07-2009 08:07 PM

Ouch... sorry KWhit :(

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 08:07 PM

oops - sorry KWhit.

Given that, is anybody interested in pursuing the other half of that dynamic?

Danny 07-07-2009 08:09 PM

that sucks, so I never got my vote in because of that.

PurdueBrad 07-07-2009 08:09 PM

Sorry if I'm dense, how did the lynch occur at 7:58 if no vote occurred then?

PurdueBrad 07-07-2009 08:10 PM

Sorry KWhit.

claphamsa 07-07-2009 08:10 PM

so DT why were u so sold on him? im still curious!

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad (Post 2066815)
Sorry if I'm dense, how did the lynch occur at 7:58 if no vote occurred then?


I is guessing "unknown mechanics"

JAG 07-07-2009 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2066813)
oops - sorry KWhit.

Given that, is anybody interested in pursuing the other half of that dynamic?


I don't think I would go into this further at this point, until wolves have their night kill and day 2 gets underway.

Autumn 07-07-2009 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad (Post 2066815)
Sorry if I'm dense, how did the lynch occur at 7:58 if no vote occurred then?


I'm assuming that at that time the percentage required to get a lynch dropped to the point where the votes we already had were sufficient.

Autumn 07-07-2009 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG (Post 2066823)
I don't think I would go into this further at this point, until wolves have their night kill and day 2 gets underway.


I think day 2 starts immediately. I don't know what that means about night kills though.

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 08:16 PM

yeah - my understanding was day 2 starts immediately and the wolves will get their night kill just...whenever

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 08:17 PM

Sorry KWhit.

Danny 07-07-2009 08:18 PM

Vote Chief Rum

I know no kill has happened, but I want to get a vote in soon this time since I feel bad for missing it.

Danny 07-07-2009 08:19 PM

My reason for this vote is for the reasons stated by another player on the last page and CR usually avoids suspicion early. It definitely is subject to change.

KWhit 07-07-2009 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2066732)
this is not a bad vote


Great job.

:confused:


Thanks for causing that run on me.

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 08:21 PM

sorry - my reasoning was sound though...and somebody had to get lynched.

i feel bad...never like to lynch a villager. wishes everyone could stay alive all game

Thomkal 07-07-2009 08:29 PM

OOF we're not off to a great start. That ability really could have come in handy.

Tyrith 07-07-2009 08:30 PM

My gut is to vote for CR at this point. I think we should take the standard kill out of the D1 KWhit voters.

BrianD 07-07-2009 08:41 PM

I'm really curious why DT pushed us all toward KWhit? As soon as practical, I'd like to know what you thought you knew.

For the voting record, I did not have an active vote for PerdueBrad at lynch time. The official count showed my vote for him as well as for KWhit.

Autumn 07-07-2009 08:43 PM

Given that it was DT (no offense intended) who started the run on KWhit, I'm not sure that the KWhit voters will tell us much. Perhaps if Purdue or NTN is a wolf, that would, but otherwise the clear force behind KWhit's lynch was DT, and nobody could have foreseen that.

I think it's good to throw a candidate out there though and see what Chief has to say. I'm more curious about EagleFan who still hasn't reappeared. I assumed he was thrown in jail or some such, knocked out, interrogated.

nfg22 07-07-2009 08:46 PM

hmmm...DT...hard loss but I follow on faithfully. That ability is really only good if we find a wolf...then it doenst even matter much because it lasts for fifteen minutes....thats a short window.

ISiddiqui 07-07-2009 08:47 PM

Yeah, I am curious about Eaglefan too. Maybe when he reappears he can give us a clue. Didn't the lynch writeup say something about agents going to a hospital? Could it be Eaglefan?

JAG 07-07-2009 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2066825)
I think day 2 starts immediately. I don't know what that means about night kills though.


The thread title still says day 1. The lynch time is reset but I would be surprised if there was no night kill before we had another chance to lynch.

nfg22 07-07-2009 08:50 PM

I think the day will reset at 9 cst

henry296 07-07-2009 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG (Post 2066788)
I don't feel great about this, but Jack seems to want it and I gotta go with him.

Unvote ntndeacon
Vote KWhit


So I'm assuming that b/c BK said the lynch was at 7:58 CST, this vote didn't count. Is that correct or is a system clock issue and this was vote #10?

JAG 07-07-2009 08:52 PM

Well hell, now it says day 2, nevermind.

henry296 07-07-2009 08:52 PM

I think the thread title will change after the night kill, but the next 23 hour mark is based on the time so it will be at 8:06 EST after Barkeep finished the write-up.

JAG 07-07-2009 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry296 (Post 2066880)
So I'm assuming that b/c BK said the lynch was at 7:58 CST, this vote didn't count. Is that correct or is a system clock issue and this was vote #10?


I imagine it's correct, that any votes after the lynch time of 7:58pm CST did not count. Looking at the final vote tally in Barkeep's post, my vote was given on ntndeacon so that seems confirmed actually.

henry296 07-07-2009 08:55 PM

Thoughts on the Day

1. EagleFan - I will be interested to see when he comes back what happened. My theory is that some has a day action that impacted him, but I would be sure that it was a conspirator, perhaps a special ability with Jack Bauer.

2. Availability - Ended up working later than normal and didn't get on until around 9 PM EST. Hopefully as the lynch times move, it will allow me to get a vote in the middle of a "day". As for today, I would've lynched Kwhit too.

henry296 07-07-2009 08:57 PM

The lynch happend 22 hours and 58 minutes after the start of the day with only 9 of 22 total votes and 9 of 24 possible votes.

I wonder if someone gets too votes and I think Alan T referenced, let me find it.

Autumn 07-07-2009 08:58 PM

Man, this thing is giving me a headache. Okay, so it's day 2, we survived a day without a wolf kill, unless this EagleFan thing was their kill or action. Or maybe we got a block, i don't know. Good deal if we get a day in without them killing anyone though, even if we did off a villager.

Autumn 07-07-2009 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry296 (Post 2066888)
The lynch happend 22 hours and 58 minutes after the start of the day with only 9 of 22 total votes and 9 of 24 possible votes.

I wonder if someone gets too votes and I think Alan T referenced, let me find it.


But it seemed important that it was at the 58 minute mark. I wonder if the mods had the day starting two minutes earlier than that.

I suppose it could be possible that there's a voting thing going on too, Alan was seemingly referencing something cryptic.

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD (Post 2066864)
I'm really curious why DT pushed us all toward KWhit? As soon as practical, I'd like to know what you thought you knew.

For the voting record, I did not have an active vote for PerdueBrad at lynch time. The official count showed my vote for him as well as for KWhit.


I referenced earlier that based on PM's that people had sent to me I had 3 suspects. KWhit was one of them. There was another choice besides KWhit (as you can see from my talking it thru earlier) and i am happy to go that way tomorrow, but I don't want to dominate discussion completely, I'd like to see what thoughts others have on the subject of who to go after.

henry296 07-07-2009 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 2066793)
I'm not going to go into specifics, but we're at 40% on Kwhit at this point and it was not enough yet. I know there are only 9 votes, but you'll just have to trust me on this one.

I'm only saying this so we don't have issues trying to do the math later on this. My guess is at 9pm ET we hit the 40% mark. I'll be interested to see if he gets lynched at 9 without any votes moving to him.



This is Alan T's post I referenced. He mentioned 9 votes but more than 40% which isn't true unless perhaps someone's votes could count twice?

I'm still very confused why the lunch was before the 23 hour mark unless it is based on votes cast and not total available.

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2066889)
Man, this thing is giving me a headache. Okay, so it's day 2, we survived a day without a wolf kill, unless this EagleFan thing was their kill or action. Or maybe we got a block, i don't know. Good deal if we get a day in without them killing anyone though, even if we did off a villager.


EF is okay.

henry296 07-07-2009 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG (Post 2066883)
I imagine it's correct, that any votes after the lynch time of 7:58pm CST did not count. Looking at the final vote tally in Barkeep's post, my vote was given on ntndeacon so that seems confirmed actually.


I should've known to look at the official vote tally... sorry for asking.

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nfg22 (Post 2066872)
hmmm...DT...hard loss but I follow on faithfully. That ability is really only good if we find a wolf...then it doenst even matter much because it lasts for fifteen minutes....thats a short window.


yeah

Autumn 07-07-2009 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2066894)
EF is okay.


Do you know what happened to him then? Or rather was it the result of bad guys or good guys?

Autumn 07-07-2009 09:14 PM

I'm out for a while, possibly the night.

Barkeep49 07-07-2009 09:14 PM

Just to clarify as I created some confusion, the lynch was recorded as officially happening exactly 23 hours after the start of the game.

JAG 07-07-2009 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2066907)
Do you know what happened to him then? Or rather was it the result of bad guys or good guys?


The fact that DT mentioned he was unconcerned about him disappearing earlier today and that he continues to say he's ok leads me to believe that it's related to EF's or someone else's power that PMed DT and said they would target EF. I don't think speculation about this will be useful at this point, DT presumably knows and if it's advantageous for us to know he'll tell us. Let's see what happens when EF returns.

henry296 07-07-2009 09:21 PM

Thanks for clarifying... some one Kwhit then had 2 votes to hit the 40% mark.

henry296 07-07-2009 09:26 PM

Just double checked and Day 0 ended at 9:59 last night so that explains the confusion.

The Jackal 07-07-2009 09:44 PM

Just checked in, sorry to see you go KWhit. I'll see what happens tonight before making any choices, but I don't have much to add at this point.

hoopsguy 07-07-2009 09:50 PM

Moderator switch - I'm around for the next couple of hours, BK should be back to hang with all the real night owls later tonight.

kingfc22 07-07-2009 09:58 PM

DAY 1 FINAL



Eaglefan 1 – BrianD (292)
Path 1 – nfg22 (305)
Jackal 1 – PB (328)
BrianD 1 – Pass (330)
Ntn 1 – Jag (332)
PB 1 – Eaglefan (334)
Jackal 2 – Saldana (343)
Path 2 – Tyrith (347)
UNVOTE Eaglefan 0 – BrianD (358)
Ntn 2 – Path (360)
PB 2 – Jackal (366)
Jackal 3 – Brian D (370)
Ntn 3 – Daddy Torgo (371)
UNVOTE PB 1 – Jackal (374)
Ntn 4 – Jackal (374)
UNVOTE Path 1 – Tyrith (388)
Jackal 4 – Tyrith (388)
Ntn 5 – Alan (389)
Ntn 6 – Kwhit (390)
Jackal 5 – Telle (391)
UNVOTE Jackal 4 – Telle (411)
PB 2 – Telle (411)
Ntn 7 – Kingfc (425)
Jackal 5 – Ntn (431)
UNVOTE path 0 – nfg22 (439)
Ntn 8 – nfg22 (439)
Ntn 9 – Thomkal (441)
UNVOTE Jackal 4 – BrianD (443)
PB 3 – BrianD (443)
Jackal 5 – claphamsa (453)
PB 4 – Autumn (459)
UNVOTE ntn 8 – Daddy Torgo (463)
PB 5 – Isiddiqui (471)
UNVOTE ntn 7 – Alan (474)
UNVOTE Jackal 4 – ntn (475)
Kwhit 1 – ntn (475)
UNVOTE ntn 6 – nfg22 (482)
Kwhit 2 – nfg22 (482)
UNVOTE ntn 5 – path (496)
UNVOTE Jackal 3 – saldana (501)
PB 6 – saldana (501)
UNVOTE Jackal 2 – PB (511)
UNVOTE Jackal 1 – Tyrith (514)
Ntn 6 – Tyrith (514)
Ntn 7 – PB (517)
Ntn 8 – Schmidty (537)
PB 7 – path (546)
UNVOTE KWhit 1 – ntn (560)
PB 8 – ntn (560)
KWhit 2 – Chief (565)
UNVOTE PB 7 – BrianD (579)
KWhit 3 – BrianD (579)
UNVOTE PB 6 – autumn (581)
KWhit 4 – autumn (581)
KWhit 5 – Daddy Torgo (596)
UNVOTE PB 5 – Telle (598)
KWhit 6 – Telle (598)
UNVOTE PB 4 - ISiddiqui (599)
KWhit 7 – Isiddiqui (599)
KWhit 8 – Alan (600)
UNVOTE ntn 7 – PB (602)
KWhit 9 – PB (602)




I have some suspicions on a few that jumped on board the KWhit train, but I'll keep it in for now.

Danny 07-07-2009 10:08 PM

I'm not really sure it's 100% necessary to wait for night kills. What I am curious about is if the removal of EF perhaps was a wolf action which counted as a night action. Perhaps EF has an ability to turn the kill into that or something else.

Chief Rum 07-07-2009 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 2066786)
Is it me or is it a really odd thing for Chief to throwaway a day 1 vote? Between that and something else he said earlier (I'll have to go find it but it was about not speculating or something like that...un-Chieflike) he's gotten himself on my radar.


It IS really odd for me to do a throwaway vote--because usually I have time to do a legit vote. I admitted in making the vote and re-iterate it here that my schedule has been hellish the past couple days, and I pretty much had to make a throwaway vote to get a vote in at all.

Thus far, I posted a time or two Sunday night, when I had some time, about some things we might need to address from the mechanics (this was fresh at game start), and then real life kicked my ass, and I was only to get in a passing post last night after getting home late from work. And then the post you have above, my last prior to this one here.

I would like to see any thoughts you have on what I might have said earlier, to put things to rest, if for no other reason.

Chief Rum 07-07-2009 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2066732)
this is not a bad vote


Hmm, while I appreciate the vote of confidence, obviously this did not turn out well. It just goes to show how much a crapshoot Day One is, in any game. I said before I had no reason for the vote on KWhit except to put up a third candidate. I was certain the village would follow through with an ntndeacon or PurdueBrad, neither of whom I felt too bad about in my quick skim of the thread to that point. Color me surprised to return here and find that this proclamation above essentially sealed KWhit's doom and made me look a bit like an ass. ;)

ntndeacon 07-07-2009 10:17 PM

I am sorry Kwhit for making you the subject of speculation. I still thought it was a good strategy to really look at those that got on board getting me out, as I could be viewed as an easy target. Even though I changed my vote from you, I was still thinking ill of you. I just assumed that couldn't happen that fast.

Chief Rum 07-07-2009 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2066832)
Vote Chief Rum

I know no kill has happened, but I want to get a vote in soon this time since I feel bad for missing it.


Danny, could you clarify what it is you find suspicious about me? Is it just regurgitating what path said? Given how nutty my schedule has been, I figure if people want to come at me with suspicions, now is the time to do so, since I am around. No promises I will be around tomorrow (in fact, I can promise much the same mid-day participation as today, i.e. little to none).

Or we can wait until midnight and chat while everyone's sleeping. ;)

Autumn 07-07-2009 10:20 PM

It seems like DT has the best candidates for the next lynch, his next two suspects. I think he probably has more to go on than any of us. I'd like to hear who the "36 hour" candidate is and then go from there. Or the programmer person.

Chief Rum 07-07-2009 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 2066968)
I am sorry Kwhit for making you the subject of speculation. I still thought it was a good strategy to really look at those that got on board getting me out, as I could be viewed as an easy target. Even though I changed my vote from you, I was still thinking ill of you. I just assumed that couldn't happen that fast.


It is because it always seems to be the same o, same o sorta reasoning on you that I stayed away from you myself and went with KWhit. I rejected the reasons to vote for you as the usual BS, and as unlikely to produce a wolf as anyone, so I went for a much less likely target (at the time; I think my KWhit vote was only #2 on him or something like that).

Chief Rum 07-07-2009 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith (Post 2066851)
My gut is to vote for CR at this point. I think we should take the standard kill out of the D1 KWhit voters.


But of all the KWhit voters why me? Even DT got this one wrong, and you know he's good. I can see the logic in going after KWhit voters, but I would look at the ones with votes after DT. After all, what's safer than to throw a vote out against a villager (as they would have known) after the most trusted guy in the game basically said, "Yeah, he's one!"

When I made my vote, KWhit was in no danger at all.

Autumn 07-07-2009 10:34 PM

Poor Chief, always debating with his self.

Chief Rum 07-07-2009 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2066984)
Poor Chief, always debating with his self.


Heh...this usually happens late at night, but I expect the silence then!

Tyrith 07-07-2009 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 2066978)
But of all the KWhit voters why me? Even DT got this one wrong, and you know he's good. I can see the logic in going after KWhit voters, but I would look at the ones with votes after DT. After all, what's safer than to throw a vote out against a villager (as they would have known) after the most trusted guy in the game basically said, "Yeah, he's one!"

When I made my vote, KWhit was in no danger at all.


Gut, more or less - seemed like you made the biggest point. But that makes no sense as a wolf move, though, so I will actually probably go along with you and vote for someone after DT.

Autumn 07-07-2009 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 2066985)
Heh...this usually happens late at night, but I expect the silence then!


Hey, this is pretty late. For some of us.

henry296 07-07-2009 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 2066978)
But of all the KWhit voters why me? Even DT got this one wrong, and you know he's good. I can see the logic in going after KWhit voters, but I would look at the ones with votes after DT. After all, what's safer than to throw a vote out against a villager (as they would have known) after the most trusted guy in the game basically said, "Yeah, he's one!"

When I made my vote, KWhit was in no danger at all.


Chief - I agree with you that your votes does not appear suspicious. The suspicious votes appear to be those that came later. Perhaps Telle or Isiddiqui who votes immediately after DT.

Autumn 07-07-2009 10:51 PM

Well, in their defense I did the same. given the option of voting for ntn or purdue, neither of whom were being lynched for any reason other than that they were the first vote getters on Day One, or voting for someone that DaddyT was encouraging us to vote for, that was an easy choice. DT didn't end up having any goods on him, but he still had a better reason to target someone than any of us had and I can't really see faulting anyone for following his lead.

If we find that NTN or purdue is bad, then we might have some voting record to go on.

Tyrith 07-07-2009 11:06 PM

Ugh, both halves of the argument are correct. The people after DT both knew they had an ironclad excuse and HAVE an ironclad excuse.

Chief Rum 07-07-2009 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith (Post 2067013)
Ugh, both halves of the argument are correct. The people after DT both knew they had an ironclad excuse and HAVE an ironclad excuse.


lol...well put.

Tyrith 07-07-2009 11:08 PM

The only way what CR did makes sense from a wolf perspective is if both ntn and PB are wolves. Frankly, I think we should probably actually kill one of them and see if we can discern what's going on - not much better to do until we get some information developing.

Autumn 07-07-2009 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrith (Post 2067018)
The only way what CR did makes sense from a wolf perspective is if both ntn and PB are wolves. Frankly, I think we should probably actually kill one of them and see if we can discern what's going on - not much better to do until we get some information developing.


I agree Tyrith, I'll probably vote one of them barring whatever DT reveals about his other suspects. It at least will tell us something.

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 2066964)
Hmm, while I appreciate the vote of confidence, obviously this did not turn out well. It just goes to show how much a crapshoot Day One is, in any game. I said before I had no reason for the vote on KWhit except to put up a third candidate. I was certain the village would follow through with an ntndeacon or PurdueBrad, neither of whom I felt too bad about in my quick skim of the thread to that point. Color me surprised to return here and find that this proclamation above essentially sealed KWhit's doom and made me look a bit like an ass. ;)


I had my own reasons for the KWhit vote. It wasn't based on yours at all CR.


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