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SirFozzie 05-20-2008 09:46 PM

We have our first of many cheap, dirty shots by the Pistons. Wouldn't be surprised if Hamilton the Ripper gets a visit from the league office and his paycheck be a bit lighter. (note, no way a suspension, but that kinda cheap shot elbow deserves a fine)

DeToxRox 05-20-2008 09:48 PM

So far this is typical Pistons. They had the worst record of any playoff team coming off a 3 day layoff and they have looked meh. I would've been shocked if they pulled this one off to be honest. If they lose game two though, then I am shocked.

That's just how backwards this team is.

DeToxRox 05-20-2008 09:59 PM

Some of these non calls are frustrating. Not that it'd make much difference because Detroit has been God awful and should be down 20 not 10, but Rip got mugged there and nothing.

SirFozzie 05-20-2008 10:06 PM

26 assists on 34 FG's for the Celtics so far, nice. Lots of ball movement, while the Pistons have been "One guy dribbles for 15 seconds, settles for a jumper". The Pistons are going to have to change things around for game 2, win or lose.

EDIT: 1-0 to the Celtics.

DaddyTorgo 05-20-2008 10:23 PM

great defensive effort by the C's tonight too

watravaler 05-20-2008 10:38 PM

Rose is the no-brainer #1 pick for Chi-Town, as Kirk isn't a true PG, and I don't think Beasley has the superstar potential that Rose has...

RainMaker 05-20-2008 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watravaler (Post 1731717)
Rose is the no-brainer #1 pick for Chi-Town, as Kirk isn't a true PG, and I don't think Beasley has the superstar potential that Rose has...

I'm a Bulls season ticket holder so I am real excited about this. But I don't think Rose is a no-brainer. While he has the most upside, Beasley is still a stud who fits better into their current team. The biggest problem they've had is no one to score down low. Rose is a huge improvement at PG but they still have no one down low who can score.

Getting Rose means that either Hinrich or Gordon are gone. I think Gordon was going to be traded no matter what, but this will ramp it up. Not sure what Gordon's trade value is though (or Hinrich for that matter). I still think they hang on to Kirk since his contract is longer, his value is lower, and he plays better defense. He can also be a nice transition at PG for Rose who may not be able to play 40+ minutes a night his rookie year.

stevew 05-21-2008 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 1731690)
Some of these non calls are frustrating. Not that it'd make much difference because Detroit has been God awful and should be down 20 not 10, but Rip got mugged there and nothing.


Apparently they changed to a "no blood no foul" concept. Saw Pierce and LeBron both get mugged numerous times last round with no call.

Neon_Chaos 05-21-2008 10:52 PM

Lakers come back from 20 points down... and win against the Spurs!

Amazing!

Chief Rum 05-21-2008 10:54 PM

Game was a drag until Jordan showed up in the third. Great after that.

Arles 05-21-2008 11:02 PM

Kobe was sick. I don't how anyone can defend him when he plays like he did in the 2nd half tonight.

Groundhog 05-21-2008 11:07 PM

Man... I'm working but I watched the first half of the game, and was trying to decide whether to ask my boss for an extended lunch break to catch the rest of it... Then the Spurs went on like a 10-2 run to start the 3rd so I decided against it.

Looks like that might have been a mistake.

MrBug708 05-22-2008 01:09 AM

Good game tonight. Even though the Lakers were down by 20 at one point, you almost knew they were coming back

korme 05-22-2008 01:16 AM

Udoka 4 Lakers MVP

BishopMVP 05-22-2008 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shorty3281 (Post 1732506)
Udoka 4 Lakers MVP

Udoka=Spurs version of Melvin Ely?

DeToxRox 05-22-2008 10:27 PM

Pistons do what I suspect, play awful game one and lose, then tighten up game two and win. It's on Boston now.

Groundhog 05-23-2008 01:20 AM

Yeah, every time the Celtics looked like clawing their way back in front the Pistons came up big. Stuckey looked real nice tonight. Still early in their careers, but I imagine the Hawks might be wishing they could swap Acie Law for Rodney Stuckey right now.

Neon_Chaos 05-24-2008 12:10 AM

Two down, two to go. Let's go Lakers.

MrBug708 05-24-2008 02:45 AM

6 more wins....

larrymcg421 05-24-2008 08:45 PM

Nice to see the Celtics finally playing up to their regular season form. Hell, they're playing above regular season form right now.

miami_fan 05-25-2008 05:53 PM

I was really hoping for the C's to win the title while losing every home game.

MrBug708 05-26-2008 12:50 AM

When I was driving home tonight, I saw the Lakers bus headed for the airport

Brian Swartz 05-26-2008 01:03 AM

Nice to see Manu show up in this series, but I can't shake the feeling that their very uncharacteristic Game 1 collapse is going to doom them. It's just not the kind of thing that happens to championship teams, and I can't ever remember being more surprised by a Spurs loss in the Duncan era. I'm still really, really hoping the new Lakers dynasty waits to get its start until next year.

Chief Rum 05-26-2008 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708 (Post 1733903)
When I was driving home tonight, I saw the Lakers bus headed for the airport


Not sure that was the Lakers' bus. We'll see in a few days if it might even leave too late for Game Four--or not at all.

Sublime 2 05-26-2008 06:28 PM

I'm liking the C's chances tonight, especially if Chauncey is still ailing and Rasheed continues to be a non-factor.

korme 05-26-2008 07:06 PM

For the interest of the series I really need the Pistons to win

Groundhog 05-26-2008 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sublime 2 (Post 1734194)
I'm liking the C's chances tonight, especially if Chauncey is still ailing and Rasheed continues to be a non-factor.


4-20 shooting aint going to get it done. What a terrible game thus far.

DeToxRox 05-26-2008 08:25 PM

Typical Pistons. I think though if Detroit keeps it up and wins tonight they're winning Game 5, because that is this teams MO. Sheed will blow up then too, count on it.

larrymcg421 05-26-2008 08:59 PM

I can't believe this is only a 4 pt game.

Passacaglia 05-27-2008 12:16 PM

Good game for the Pistons last night. Wish I had been able to go to that one instead of Game 3.

rkmsuf 05-27-2008 12:17 PM

It's amazing how much the pistons control this series. If they try on defense, they win.

Groundhog 05-27-2008 08:25 PM

Good start by the Lakers.

Groundhog 05-27-2008 11:12 PM

Missed the miss by Barry at the end. Was he actually fouled as he, according to the recap, claimed, or was it 50/50 at best?

Passacaglia 05-27-2008 11:16 PM

Looked like a non-shooting foul to me.

rjolley 05-27-2008 11:31 PM

Fisher almost sat on Barry's shoulder as he tried to dribble for a shot.

At best, it was a non-shooting foul, but it was a foul.

Jas_lov 05-27-2008 11:34 PM

It was a foul, but he wasn't shooting. Had he went up for the shot when Fisher slammed into him, he would have gotten the call and 3 shots. But the way it played out, he should have gotten 2 shots for the non-shooting foul.

Arles 05-28-2008 12:03 AM

They've been pretty hard on the "initiate contact" fouls this season, especially late in games. It was a smart play by Barry, but he initiated the contact with Fisher to try and get a foul. IMO, if Barry goes straight up and into Fisher's arm - he gets the call. Instead, he moved into Fisher while he was landing, absorbed the contact, then shot the ball. That difference may have cost him the game.

Ironically, I remember seeing a game earlier in the season where Kobe tried that late in a game (I think against the Hornets) and didn't get the call. He threw a big fit at the refs after the no-call. ;)

Kodos 05-28-2008 12:05 AM

I hate the Lakers, but Barry didn't deserve foul shots for that.

Neon_Chaos 05-28-2008 12:06 AM

Crawford finally got his back against Timmy D. :)

korme 05-28-2008 02:20 AM

Not saying that it was wrong for not happening, but that no-call is going to be the definition of when the San Antonio dynasty ended

MrBug708 05-28-2008 03:35 AM

Eh, on the play before, they shot clock should have been reset as the ball skimmed the rim before bouncing off Horry and going out of bounds.

Oh well, those are the breaks

5 more wins to go...

Scoobz0202 05-28-2008 12:08 PM

Lebron has got my interest in the NBA back up lately, but there are two things that annoy me.

1. Travelling

2. I swear to god, and this is especially bad towards the end of the game, every single star player looks at the ref with his hands in the air after every missed shot. Like the ref is the one that fucking missed the shot. Play the damn game. You missed, now hustle back down court.

Groundhog 05-28-2008 07:23 PM

Barry travels before the foul anyway. Watch his pivot foot:


MrBug708 05-28-2008 07:31 PM

My biggest pet peeve in the NBA is what they consider "carrying" to be.

Groundhog 05-28-2008 09:14 PM

Who is this big guy doing the damage in the middle for Boston? I thought the Celtics traded away Al Jefferson?

SirFozzie 05-28-2008 09:23 PM

Ray Allen is waking up.. that's very bad for the Pistons

And Kendrick Perkins is awesome tonight

SirFozzie 05-28-2008 09:42 PM

And we're getting chippy (both sides), but it looks good for the C's!

SirFozzie 05-28-2008 10:10 PM

Here comes the Pistons.. lead at 6...

SirFozzie 05-28-2008 10:13 PM

Ooooo Sheed with the brain fart at the worst possible moment.

EDIT: BTW, I was only half listening because I was talking to a customer, but is that the magic # of technicals for a game suspension, or does he need one more?

wade moore 05-28-2008 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 1736222)
Ooooo Sheed with the brain fart at the worst possible moment.

EDIT: BTW, I was only half listening because I was talking to a customer, but is that the magic # of technicals for a game suspension, or does he need one more?


They said 1 more.

korme 05-28-2008 10:29 PM

omg the c's are gonna blow this game

they are still winning but i just feel like this is detroit's game to lose at this point

BishopMVP 05-28-2008 10:38 PM

Not a fan of this fouling stategy Doc.

Neon_Chaos 05-28-2008 10:45 PM

C's hold on.

Somehwere, Stern is sitting in a dark room wearing his Bird jersey over his Magic jersery, smiling.

SirFozzie 05-28-2008 10:46 PM

HUGE freaking sigh of relief.

Passacaglia 05-28-2008 11:45 PM

Not according to the NBA, who announced that he should have shot two free throws.

Heartbreaker of a game to watch tonight.

EDIT: Missed a page, but this was in reply to the comment about Barry traveling.

Groundhog 05-29-2008 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1736279)
Not according to the NBA, who announced that he should have shot two free throws.

Heartbreaker of a game to watch tonight.

EDIT: Missed a page, but this was in reply to the comment about Barry traveling.


*shrug*

Looks like a clear travel to me. Barry is already lifting his pivot foot and hasn't dribbled the ball yet when the foul occurs.

Of course, It wouldn't be the first time a travel has gone uncalled/unnoticed in the history of the NBA, either.

Neon_Chaos 05-29-2008 12:25 AM

:D

Lotsa stuff that went down awry in that Lakers/Spurs game.

The Spurs shouldn't have even been able to put that last shot up. The ball grazed the rim on Fisher's shot at the last possession... meaning the shot-clock should have been reset with 5 something seconds left.

molson 05-29-2008 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BishopMVP (Post 1736241)
Not a fan of this fouling stategy Doc.


There's nothing more annoying that a team hitting a game-tying 3-pointer with under 10 seconds to go. It doesn't have to happen - and most coaches finally realize that.

Atocep 05-29-2008 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson (Post 1736319)
There's nothing more annoying that a team hitting a game-tying 3-pointer with under 10 seconds to go. It doesn't have to happen - and most coaches finally realize that.


Yes, Doc deserves credit for having the balls to go against convential wisdom and do the smart thing in that situation. More things have to happen for you to lose a game if you simply foul in late game situations when you're up 3.

SirFozzie 05-29-2008 06:12 PM

Heh. Sheed is now $25K lighter after his bleep-filled rant last night. Win or lose, I think he'll get that magic #7 T in game 6, so if there's a game 7, he'll be sitting out.

Neon_Chaos 05-29-2008 10:13 PM

Come on, Lakers. Less than ten minutes of stellar basketball, and it's back to the Finals...

Neon_Chaos 05-30-2008 12:29 AM

And the Spurs are done.

Four wins away, Lakeshow.

MrBug708 05-30-2008 02:45 AM

Heck ya!

SirFozzie 05-30-2008 07:42 PM

God, that introduction by "Mason" was the most streetball set of introductions I've ever seen :)

Groundhog 05-30-2008 09:16 PM

How does Rasheed not get like 2 technical fouls right there? EVen looked like the one official grabbed the other official as he was about to call the T to stop him doing it.

DaddyTorgo 05-30-2008 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Groundhog (Post 1738064)
How does Rasheed not get like 2 technical fouls right there? EVen looked like the one official grabbed the other official as he was about to call the T to stop him doing it.


and yet perkins got T'd up for nothing. Huge double-standard. It needs to be more consistent

SirFozzie 05-30-2008 09:34 PM

The refs apparently have heard it straight from the top that there should be a game 7. What a one-sided crapfest from the officials

larrymcg421 05-30-2008 09:35 PM

Man, please get Cassell out of there.

DaddyTorgo 05-30-2008 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 1738075)
The refs apparently have heard it straight from the top that there should be a game 7. What a one-sided crapfest from the officials


agreed. How in the fucking hell was that a 4th foul on garnett? or an offensive foul by pierce on that potential 4-pt, game-changing play? bullllshit

Jas_lov 05-30-2008 09:45 PM

Pierce obviously initiated the contact by forcing the Detroit defender to jump into him. NO! It was a terrible call! Should have been a 4 point play. The 4th foul call on Garnett was absurd. Perkins got a T for much less than Rasheed has done. The refs are scared to call one on him becuase he'll be suspended for a possible game 7.

larrymcg421 05-30-2008 09:47 PM

I think Rasheed has at the very least lot a bit of cash for his reaction to the cameraman.

DaddyTorgo 05-30-2008 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jas_lov (Post 1738083)
Pierce obviously initiated the contact by forcing the Detroit defender to jump into him. NO! It was a terrible call! Should have been a 4 point play. The 4th foul call on Garnett was absurd. Perkins got a T for much less than Rasheed has done. The refs are scared to call one on him becuase he'll be suspended for a possible game 7.


yeah and then they'd be worried that that'd affect the game too much.

which just illustrates my key issue with NBA refs, they're too focused on the big picture - "omg if I call this a technical it'll potentially affect the series" - when they need to be instructed to just call things CONSISTENTLY. A charging foul should be a charging foul regardless of whether it's a scrub-PG running into someone or Kobe running into someone. It's just too inconsistent and that bothers me.

larrymcg421 05-30-2008 09:49 PM

dola

And didn't I say we needed to take Cassell out? He can get you back into a game, but he can also take you out of one. Old man wasn't feeling it today.

DaddyTorgo 05-30-2008 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 1738086)
dola

And didn't I say we needed to take Cassell out? He can get you back into a game, but he can also take you out of one. Old man wasn't feeling it today.


yeah...his turnovers there in the 3rd were a huge reason why they fell behind

AND HOW was that not a foul on maxiell?

fortunately billups missed twice

DaddyTorgo 05-30-2008 09:51 PM

thought the C's had blown it...great run by them here...and now the Pistons are in the penalty

larrymcg421 05-30-2008 10:01 PM

Why was Hamilton sitting? Uh, thanks for that, Flip!

Jas_lov 05-30-2008 10:04 PM

Celtics shooting lights out. They might just pull this off.

DaddyTorgo 05-30-2008 10:11 PM

damn...huge play by posey


garnett's laid an egg this game though - but I guess that's why you got a "big 3" so that only 2/3 needs to be firing at a time

Schmidty 05-30-2008 10:12 PM

I hate the Pistons right now. I love them, but I hate them.

Sheed needs to go. He's showing everyone that in the big game, he's a baby and a cancer. He might be a "good teammate" the rest of the time, but when it counts, he's a liability.

Oh, and if Boston makes it, they will get destroyed by the Lakers (who I hate).

DaddyTorgo 05-30-2008 10:15 PM

good point there by the announcer - ray allen shouldn't have passed it to garnett...he should have taken the foul himself as the better FT shooter

DaddyTorgo 05-30-2008 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty (Post 1738100)
I hate the Pistons right now. I love them, but I hate them.

Sheed needs to go. He's showing everyone that in the big game, he's a baby and a cancer. He might be a "good teammate" the rest of the time, but when it counts, he's a liability.

Oh, and if Boston makes it, they will get destroyed by the Lakers (who I hate).


if detroit makes it they'd get destroyed by the lakers too though

Groundhog 05-30-2008 10:15 PM

Garnett decides to keep the game interesting...

I kinda hope the Pistons pull of an amazing comeback here and most of the Pistons fans will hear about it in their car on the way home after leaving too early...

DaddyTorgo 05-30-2008 10:17 PM

ballgame

Jas_lov 05-30-2008 10:19 PM

The Celtics deserve this win after getting screwed by the refs. Everyone here thought they'd lose to the Pistons except myself and the bandwagon Celtics fans. I think the Celtics-Lakers series will be a close one and the Celtics won't get destroyed. I think they'll lose, but it'll be a good and hard fought 6 or 7 game series.

DaddyTorgo 05-30-2008 10:25 PM

Garnett vs. Gasol is going to be interesting battle. Garnett's a better pure shooter but can he exploit that. Pierce can guard Kobe okay, he's shown that.

The question will be Lamar Odom for the Celtics and Ray Allen for the Lakers. Those are the guys that would be matchup problems defensively...at least if you assume Pierce on Kobe (which I think you almost have to do if you're the C's)

Neon_Chaos 05-30-2008 10:30 PM

David Stern and the ABC executives are having a sexy party right now.

Lakers vs. Celtics!

Chief Rum 05-30-2008 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1738113)
Garnett vs. Gasol is going to be interesting battle. Garnett's a better pure shooter but can he exploit that. Pierce can guard Kobe okay, he's shown that.

The question will be Lamar Odom for the Celtics and Ray Allen for the Lakers. Those are the guys that would be matchup problems defensively...at least if you assume Pierce on Kobe (which I think you almost have to do if you're the C's)


Pierce can guard Kobe better than his teammates, but my guess he is still going to get burned by a lot. I think both Bowen and Udoku are better defenders and Kobe blitzed them.

Gasol is a solid player, but Garnett should be a mismatch. He is a better offensive and defensive player, with the length to bug Gasol on both ends. Plus, KG has been fairly consistent, but Gasol still has a tendency to occasionally disappear when the going gets tough.

Garnett might actually have to guard Odom, come to think of it, because Perkins can probably at least stay with Gasol a bit, but there really is no one else who can play with a guy with Odom's length and versatility.

As for Allen, I think Manu is a better player than Allen right now, and Vujacic bugged Manu to death. My guess is that Vujacic can stick with an older Allen. Sure, Manu is a little hurt, but a healthy Allen hasn't hardly shown up for the playoffs.

molson 05-30-2008 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty (Post 1738100)

Oh, and if Boston makes it, they will get destroyed by the Lakers (who I hate).


It's been such a weird playoff run for the Celtics and this sums it up....They were so unimpressive, they're obviously going to lose in the next round. We've heard that twice already. The theme of the story on ESPN.com after game 5 was how they didn't play like champions.

Now they're 4 unimpressive wins away from the NBA Championship. If they pull it off, they'll of course be the most unimpressive 60+ wins/championship team ever.

Schmidty 05-30-2008 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1738103)
if detroit makes it they'd get destroyed by the lakers too though


Not sure about that, but good luck.

I hate Kobe. Even though my other thread was bumped, I'm not sure who to root for now.

I might just watch the Wings win the Cup. :)

SirFozzie 05-30-2008 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty (Post 1738136)
Not sure about that, but good luck.

I hate Kobe. Even though my other thread was bumped, I'm not sure who to root for now.

I might just watch the Wings win the Cup. :)


Heh, I'm rooting for the Wings, cuz I can't stand Pittsburgh, since the days of Lemieux

SirFozzie 05-30-2008 10:59 PM

Wow, less then an hour after the Celtics win, the NBA online store has already emailed me (psuedo-spam) with the chance to buy 2007-8 Eastern Conference Championship gear

miami_fan 05-31-2008 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson (Post 1738130)
It's been such a weird playoff run for the Celtics and this sums it up....They were so unimpressive, they're obviously going to lose in the next round. We've heard that twice already. The theme of the story on ESPN.com after game 5 was how they didn't play like champions.

Now they're 4 unimpressive wins away from the NBA Championship. If they pull it off, they'll of course be the most unimpressive 60+ wins/championship team ever.


I agree with this sentiment. It really does not matter to me who wins the title. Both teams have players that I really would like to see win titles. On Boston's side, seeing KG, Ray Allen, and especially Paul Pierce would be cool since as recently as last year all somehow "lacked what it to took to win a title." I think Pierce's public turnaround is almost as impressive as Kobe's. I remember how much of a problem this guy was considered. On the other hand, I would also like to see guys like Lamar Odom, Luke Walton and the other "no talent hacks" on the Laker bench win the trophy.

BishopMVP 05-31-2008 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson (Post 1738130)
It's been such a weird playoff run for the Celtics and this sums it up....They were so unimpressive, they're obviously going to lose in the next round. We've heard that twice already. The theme of the story on ESPN.com after game 5 was how they didn't play like champions.

Now they're 4 unimpressive wins away from the NBA Championship. If they pull it off, they'll of course be the most unimpressive 60+ wins/championship team ever.

I'm not sure how everybody is crowning the Lakers right now. They're the slight favorites, but the Celtics, even as individual players, have been so schizophrenic this postseason I think anyone making predictions is bound to be wrong.

Radii 06-01-2008 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BishopMVP (Post 1738514)
I'm not sure how everybody is crowning the Lakers right now. They're the slight favorites, but the Celtics, even as individual players, have been so schizophrenic this postseason I think anyone making predictions is bound to be wrong.


I think with Gasol the Lakers are the best team in the NBA, so I would pick the Lakers regardless of how this post season had gone for Boston. But after this series with Detroit I would assume everyone who was writing off Boston b/c of the earlier series would not be doing that anymore(I'm in that camp, I didn't expect them to lose to Cleveland but I certainly didn't' expect them to beat Detroit either after their play in the early rounds). I do think that the Lakers could win it in 5, where if Boston wins it'll likely go 7.

Neon_Chaos 06-05-2008 07:59 AM

< 12 hours until Game 1!!!!

Lakers or Celtics?

Time to draw the line and take sides. :D

Go Lakers!

Dr. Sak 06-05-2008 07:59 AM

Can't we just hope for the ground to open up and swallow both teams :) ?

cartman 06-05-2008 09:26 PM

Great article from The Onion:

http://www.theonion.com/content/news...lakers_celtics

Quote:

Pau Gasol Googles 'Lakers + Celtics + Rivalry'

LOS ANGELES—Claiming he was unaware of the existence of a Los Angeles Lakers-Boston Celtics rivalry until numerous media outlets suggested their 2008 Finals matchup would revive it, curious Lakers center Pau Gasol researched the topic Wednesday by entering "Lakers + Celtics + Rivalry" into the Internet search engine Google.

The All-Star center expressed surprise upon finding that search results yielded nearly 75,000 websites about the topic, including a Wikipedia entry devoted solely to the Celtics-Lakers matchup.

"I guess these teams go way back," Gasol told reporters, adding that he was also intrigued to learn that the Lakers themselves have a history that precedes their 1996 signing of Shaquille O'Neal. "Apparently, before I was born, the Lakers and Celtics used to play each other all the time, and the games were intense. It seems to have been a really big deal."

"Listen to this," the visibly impressed Gasol said before reading from a printout of the Wikipedia page. "'The rivalry originated in the 1960s, when the Celtics defeated the Lakers six times in eight years to claim the championship. The classic matchup featured greats such as Bill Russell and Bob Cousy for Boston, and Elgin Baylor, Joe Montana, and Jerry West for Los Angeles.'"

"Man," Gasol added, "I wish those guys were still alive. I would love to talk to them about it."

Gasol's Internet search history confirmed that the information gleaned from the initial Wikipedia page spawned a number of related Google searches, including those for "Kevin McHale," "Magic Johnson," "Bill Russell," "Red Auerbach," "Kobe Bryant + sexual assault," and "Pau Gasol."

Gasol said his interest in the topic was first piqued after being repeatedly asked to compare his potential matchup against Celtics center Kevin Garnett to that of "Chamberlain vs. Russell." Though Gasol said he was happy to eventually learn the Chamberlain to whom reporters were referring was former Los Angeles Lakers star Wilt Chamberlain, and the Russell was former Boston Celtic Bill Russell, Gasol admitted he was still struggling with the question's relevance to the actual 2008 Finals.

When asked if this newly acquired information about the rivalry had further inspired him to beat the Celtics, or had created a deep-seeded hatred for the Boston team, Gasol responded, "No, not really. It's all very interesting though."

Gasol's teammates echoed that sentiment, saying that though it was worth knowing that the Celtics and Lakers had played one another 10 times in the Finals over 75 years ago, they now they considered the San Antonio Spurs or the Dallas Mavericks their biggest rivals.

"I don't remember this because it was years before I was born, but I was reading that at one time the Lakers had guys with crazy names like Kareem and Magic," said Gasol, adding that the player photo of the latter reminded him of a thinner "Mr. Johnson," an eccentric local movie-theater owner who often hovers around the Lakers locker room, tells the team "good job," and always offers advice. "He's a nice guy and doesn't mean any harm, so we let him stay."

"But apparently that rivalry between that Magic guy and Larry Birdman [sic], who my dad said was a pretty great shooter, saved the NBA," Gasol added. "I don't know about that. I'll tell you, though, on those YouTube videos, that Lakers coach with the fancy suits and the slicked-back hair looked ridiculous."

Gasol said that his teammates were equally interested in learning more about the rivalry's history, with the exception of guard Kobe Bryant. According to Gasol, when the Lakers star was informed that his name was not mentioned in the initial Wikipedia entry, an angered Byrant walked away without saying a word. Upon revisiting the page several minutes later, Gasol said the header "Russell vs. Bryant" had been edited into the site, and a rudimentary Wikipedia page for a 1988 Nintendo video game titled Bryant vs. Bird now existed.

Young Drachma 06-05-2008 09:28 PM

Awesome new commercial with Magic and Bird.

KWhit 06-05-2008 09:38 PM

Agreed.

KWhit 06-05-2008 09:50 PM

Pierce hurt?


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