After skinning the freakin' cat yesterday... I am completely befuddled right now. Frankly I'm just too traumatized to vote for anyone. I'm not trusting anyone else in this game... everyone's apparently got some special power that keeps on popping up each day. What the hell.

This is long...

Here's my analysis.

Since I know I'm not an alien, and after carefully reading SirFozzie's post, CW was an alien and someone was converted last night? Jesus H. Christ. I'm going to say that Blade was a Chryssalid, and CW was probably the convert. Killing Peregrine and trying to nail me was pretty brilliant though. It almost got me killed. RA, you saved my ass... but maybe you did so just to keep everyone from seeing the bigger picture? Seems like there might be 2 Chryssalids who can convert people, and you're probably the 2nd... I think hoopsguy's line of thinking is correct... but with digamma fingering him out as an alien, I don't know what the hell is going on. Fouts, you pointed me, RA and hoopsguy and claim to be some kind of slave... and then digamma pops out to say that hoopsguy is an alien. Jesus H. Christ. As much as I'd like to think it, after yesterday's voting, I'm going to have to say that the guys who put in the swing votes for me are the only people I can really trust. And the guys who put in the last swing votes against me as aliens. Of course, we also have to remember that someone was converted last night. Specially with everyone popping up with superpowers and frikkin hidden abilities and whatnot. I'm not sure, I'm not fucking sure.

If you managed to go through that long-winded analysis. In the end, and in conclusion, I can't help but not trust anyone.

This sucks. I'll put in my vote later after some thinking, before I go to sleep.

Neon, I think digamma was the bodyguard and was converted last night. That is the only thing I can think of that makes sense for him to come after me at this point based on my re-reading of his earlier posts. I was pretty certain he had a special role, but didn't want to press him because I was hoping the aliens had not picked up on it.

Guys, if I was converted the first night, then why on Day 2 would I have voted Blade? People were almost ready to lynch me because I was so persistent on this point. And he is a confirmed alien.

The next day Coffee Warlord is lynched. Although not a totally confirmed alien, the ecto count stayed the same with another conversion tonight. The only person vouching for Coffee as non-alien is Fouts, who has to be considered an extreme suspect at this point.

What I'm getting at here is that if I was converted on the first night, I'm doing a mighty fine job of voting aliens off the island. That shouldn't add up for anyone.

I am a good guy, but that's quite a story. Last night, I suspected something was up with Fouts, so when I viewed him he was talking to you in a "strange language". Because I used my scanner on Peregrine, I wasn't able to scan you, but I can deduce that you are probably an alien as well as Fouts.

This is so strange, partly in fact because you hope that I might be a good guy? I am human through and through. You may be human, but I think you're working with them as a spy for the aliens...

I'm voting for either Fouts or yourself today. I'll be out of the office most of the afternoon, but I'll be back to see if you're really a spy. I can't believe that SirFoz would set us up this way with the odds stacked against us, but I'm hoping that maybe you're a double spy.

Meanwhile, Fouts cast a critical vote for Schmidty, making it 5-3, on the first night. Leading to a confirmed human kill. But he is the innocent one here?

Fouts made an odd comment last night, to the effect that with the bodyguard dead (who he claimed to be CW), he was going to get turned into an alien tonight.

Did anyone else view Fouts last night?

Your stories just don't make sense and you haven't been telling the whole truth.

I asked if anyone else had felt their mind probed like Coffee Warlord had. I was hoping you would come forward and say yes, because, again, I was hoping you were a good guy.

I scanned you on night 2--you were the third person I was able to scan.

You remained silent.

Now, you won't admit that you had a doctor trip when you were younger.

I guess my hopes that you were somehow good, despite your bad experience just aren't true.

Your bit about Fouts talking to me in a strange language is just made up.

How is it made up? I viewed him, but I wasn't able to scan him since I used the one-time scanner on Peregrine. I don't know for a fact if he's an alien or not, like I don't know for sure you're an alien or not. All I know is what I heard...you and he were speaking in a strange language.

Obviously you wouldn't believe it, but was I right about Coffee Warlord being ectoplasmic? I was. And I think I'm right here as well...but it's not up for me to decide, but for other people.

I'm off to bed. If I don't wake up early tommorow, this is going to be my vote. I WILL try to wake up early though, and see where all this debating is going... for now, I'm going to vote for the one guy who tried to turn the tide against me with some apparent late reveal... specially with CW being an alien. (if my interpretation of SirFozzie is correct, CW alien - 1 ectoplasm, someone converted +1 ectoplasm)

Vote Fouts

There's at least one more person who can back up hoopsguy being converted. I'll let him come forward when he is ready.

Neon, don't forget CW's claim that he was tainted -- registering on the scanners even though he claimed to be human.

Digamma - there are two people claiming that I'm converted (you and Fouts) and four aliens. So I would expect that there are actually two more people that you can call in to say I was converted.

I'm not going to try and attack your character because I believe your actions up until today were on the side of angels. But Fouts isn't responding to my question about the Schmidty vote. Heck, I challenge anyone to go back and review my posts and my voting record, compare them to Fouts, and try to come up with a good argument how I'm an alien and he is not.

Interesting turn of events here.

Digamma, you either have insight that the rest of us do not or you are just trying to stir things up. Since you have been flying under the radar the whole game, I'm leaning toward the latter.

I wasn't planning on spending this morning defending myself - part of the game, I know - but I think this is distracting from some of the game concepts that we need to win.

1.) There is still an alien who can convert out there - while digamma is spending time throwing stones at me as the convert (not him) it is distracting from our effort to nail that guy. He is the real threat here, since he can turn our own men against us.
2.) If the aliens have another conversion in them and we miss today then it is game over after tonights actions.

7-4, we miss, 6-4
6-4, they convert, 5-5

Unless there is an 'X-Com soldiers survive ties' clause out there (different from every other werewolf game) then we are dead if we miss today and the aliens have another conversion.

Also, somebody was converted last night...as by the screams and such. Was it dig?

I'm out for the rest of the afternoon..just a quick check in.

In case I haven't made myself clear up until now ...

Vote Fouts

Only way this is changing is if someone can provide strong evidence that another one of the aliens is the Chryssalid.

I can also vouch for the veracity of CW's story regarding his ectoplasmic aura.

To make my reveal complete, I have the ability to use a PSI-Amp machine each night to scan one person. I can also share the result of that scanning with one person.

The individual I scan also knows they have been scanned.

Nigh zero I scanned Coffee. I did not share the result with anyone. He was a veteran X-Com warrior that gave off an ectoplasmic aura because of his proximity to the alien brain in the fighting at Cydonia.

Night one I scanned Peregrine. I shared my vision with Coffee Warlord. The result was that Peregrine was X-Com through and through.

Night two I scanned RaidersArmy. I shared the result of that scan above. I shared the result with Peregrine. Unfortunately, they knocked off Peregrine during the course of the night.

Last night I scanned hoopsguy. The result was that basically he entered the game X-Com, but is certainly not X-Com anymore. He is alien in a human shell. I shared that vision with someone as well. They can back me up.

Let me address some anticipated objections/questions...
Why didn't I back CW up more yesterday?
Three reasons:
1. I wasn't exactly sure how to interpret the ectoplasmic aura, and had concerns that it made him susceptible to conversion, particularly since we saw the ectoplasmic gauge go up after the first night. That concern was obviously alleviated last night when I scanned hoopsguy.

2. I was hopeful we could save CW without having to reveal my role. We were close, but failed in the end. Miscalculation on my part.

3. I thought it was too risky to put myself forward without having solid evidence that someone was an alien. Again, now I have that evidence on hoops.

Why come forward now?

1. I think that with both Fouts and I out there, we have some weapons/information about the bad guys--and we'll have that for at least one more night, I hope. They can only take us out one at a time, I'm hoping.

2. Numbers. We're down to 11 people, with probably 4 bad guys. We can't afford to make a wrong decision now.

So, Qwik, Vince, Jeeber, Swaggs, Wednesday, think about this. You've seen how quickly hoops, RA and Neon have aligned. One of you is obviously an alien as well.

I think this vote will tell us a lot.

Well, the paranoia can last only so long. I think that I fully believe digamma and CW. Their story is just too detailed to be made up. I'm going to be out a lot today, so I'm going to get my vote in early in case I can't get back.

I vote Neon_Chaos.

I'm willing to vote for Neon over hoopsguy. We just need to be united in our effort. They have clearly targeted Fouts.

dola...

Actually, I think I can only do that if Fouts can confirm Neon as an alien. I only have personal confirmation of hoopsguy, though Neon certainly appears to be playing the alien part.

The interesting thing here is that I don't necessarily trust RA and Neon myself; there are other guys that I have considerably more faith in. You were on that list before this morning, Digamma. I'm expecting that when we are at the end game recap session that we will see one of those was an alien and I fully expect a post-6PM flip-flop from one of those guys on me since I seem to be the flavor of the day for alien speculation.

Makes sense to try and go after me, I guess. I have voted for an alien each and every night so far. I've tried to have a certain amount of clarity (A or B? Don't get confused by looking too much at periphery issues) with my thought process each morning. The only thing I don't get is that since I'm a revealed grunt why they wouldn't go after someone who has the power to hurt them.

We now have three people behind the CW ecto-aura story - the deceased alien who concocted it and two players that I am just about certain are aliens. I don't see room for this to be a misunderstanding, barring someone being able to put thoughts in Digamma's head that just are not true. Fouts? I know that is not a misunderstanding. Period. End of story.

Well, if you're telling the truth, that means CW was NOT converted, because there had only been one conversion before your view of hoopsguy, and that made him it. If that's true, then we shouldn't go after hoopsguy, because we want to nail the Chryssalid. On top of that CW confirmed that Neon was the Chryssalid -- if he was telling the truth, we've got our man.

Hrm, mind control? It's possible in the video game, so we probably shouldn't discount it from Werewolf. Sigh, this is not going to be easy.

OK. I can go with that. I think we just have to be united in this one.

Although now that I think about it...

...in the game, a person converted by a chryssalid turns into a chryssalid after a period of time. So maybe hoopsguy is a good target afterall. Too much to think about...

Vince, they have had several days to work on it.

Part of the beauty and danger of a hidden roles game is that you can make the environment up to meet your reality. Kind of like the Matrix - need to jump from building to building? Free your mind. You are an alien that has been marked for death by the one known good guy in the game? OK, I'm an ecto but a good ecto. Go kill the real aliens (wink, wink).

We don't have complete information on who was good or bad, so I would expect the aliens to go to some lengths on their storytelling here. They have all the advantages in this area because we are trying to play within the confines of our roles, but if we reveal a role they change the story, paint another layer of complexity, continue to build doubt.

If RA, Neon, and I are united in voting for Fouts, could it just possibly be because we (or at least two of us?) aren't really aliens and have to believe that the person targeting all three of us is? Would it be better for appearances if I moved my vote over to Digamma? I think it would be better for the aliens, because we aren't getting the guy who is converting X-Com soldiers.

No mind controlling going on in my book. I've been able to choose the people I've scanned.

Makes perfect sense that you don't want to admit you felt that you were scanned last night. That would give me credibility.

You play this game well, and that made you a perfect target for conversion. You were posting a lot, so it gave you some initial credibility. Then you were able to continue posting a lot without people being thrown on your scent. Fortunately, I've been able to independently sniff you out via PSI-Amp scannage. Green on the outside; black and red on the inside. Alien in human skin.

That could be, but that's the beauty and the necessity of the numbers game right now--it kind of forces you guys to make a stand. I've shared what I know about you and RA. I don't have first hand knowledge of Neon yet.

Indeed, the creatures pulled this off to great effect in VI.

FYI, as a reader i find i interesting to note that after revealing blade to be an alien, and getting the bodyguard cw killed(sounds like the aliens won there...lose one to take out x-com's protector), qwikshot has been nigh heared from...seems odd that after beign a big reason cw got killed, he has gone silent recently...you would think he would be able to offer up some key insights...

Also, besides a voting order post, kingfc said he would be around all day and i havent seen a peep yet. Just seems interesting from a reader standpoint that players like those two, and to some extent mr. wednesday, are flying under everyones radar. Not implying anything to either side, as im a reader and that unfair, but just adding my food for thought.

In addition to voting for Schmidty (by mistake) and Neon_Chaos... I've at least considered Vince, kingfc22, Digamma, Fouts, Peregrine (incorrectly), and CW. I still haven't decided who my candidates are for today, aside from Neon_Chaos (again), digamma, and hoops.

I've been pretty active, and might have been on the block yesterday if not for the CW/Neon_Chaos blow-up due to my voting history.

As far as votes are concerned... the only people that I can see who have not picked up a vote at any point are myself (despite receiving some discussion, and deservedly so) and Raiders Army. Qwikshot (day 1) has only received one vote, for obvious reasons (although I would be concerned about him as a conversion target... he's getting dangerous for the aliens to leave around, especially if CW in fact was not an alien), as has Vince (voted by kingfc22 on day 3).

So with CW dying and red blood spilling, I'm going to have to believe he WAS a human. With that said, only one person has lynched a human more than once.

Vote Raider's Army

Glad we are providing you an entertaining read, Achilles. Hope I'm able to be part of the story tomorrow.

Digamma, I'm not sure how to argue with you on this - I had thought you were the bodyguard but I'm willing to buy into the idea that you were the seer. But since you are targeting me now I have no way of believing you are who you say you are today.

I don't see a resolution forthcoming between Digamma and I - one of us is lying. I'm hoping that the remaining people who have been on the fence watching this drama unfold will take note that Fouts has effectively disappeared. I've got to believe that the remaining aliens put a muzzle on him today so he wouldn't type too much. Re-read his posts, look for tells within them. I've asked about his voting patterns and gotten no response. Ask yourself where in the first three days he provided any reason for you to believe his accusations. If you don't find any, then ask again why you would follow him.

There are two others out there that I'm trying to figure out - probably one who is laying low and another who I'm going to be kicking myself for not targeting earlier in the process.

Ok, I was silent after night 1 when the first conversion happened. I heard the screams. My scanner viewed blade, hoop's guy and peregrine and the computer told me that there was one in that group who did not belong. It turned out to be Blade...

So last night, there was another conversion and my scanner viewed hoop's guy, digamma and vince. This group came up negative for Chryssalid traces. But I think we all agree that there are more than one type of alien.

Among my immediate suspects:
Neon_Chaos voted for Qwikshot on day 1, Swaggs on day 2 (never unvoting after Qwik's reveal), and CW on day 3. We don't know, for sure, what CW was, so it's hard to classify the last one.

Hoops voted for Blade on day 1, Blade again on day 2 (after going back and forth a couple of times, with the final in-favor happening before Qwik's reveal), and CW on day 3 (giving CW a two-vote margin over Neon). It's obvious to me that he was still acting as X-COM on day 2. After that, we have digamma saying he's been converted -- would he still have been acting as X-COM on day 2 if he was the first conversion? Can Digamma's account be squared with a night 3 conversion?

Digamma voted for Schmidty on day 1 (giving him three votes at a time when three others had one), Blade on day 2 (right after Qwikshot's reveal, and in quick succession after first voting for Neon_Chaos), and Neon on day 3 (bringing him within one vote of CW, although I'm not sure how much time there was for someone to flip-flop at that point).

At some point, I really need to go back through what people have said, not just how they've voted -- I think there may be some clues to be had that way. Unfortunately, I don't have time to do that right now, and probably won't have time for it today.

Fair enough. I'm pretty sure it's you who is lying. Green on the outside. Black and red (and malevolent black and red at that) on the inside. Alien in a human shell.

kingfc, if you are human, we really need to unite behind one target here.

Digamma, I'm not impressed by your color chart. You have repeated this a couple of times now.

If you really are the seer, is there any other way that you can read this other than me as an alien? I don't have any way to interpret that result versus other results you have seen. I'm think I'm going WAY out on a limb here to believe you are who you say you are and not the convert.

Mr. Wednesday, the only time I wavered on Blade was when I was under attack for being so stubborn in my pursuit of him. I didn't want to get lynched, so at one point I offered to back away if the rest of the group was convinced I was heading down the wrong path. It was an attempt to show good faith - I don't think I ever pulled the vote back after Peregrine speculated about the grunt story swap. I believe I was first on him the whole way.

Fwiw, I do think that one of Neon and Raiders are probably enemies as well - just not sure which one. Neon has had an awful lot of pressure on him the last two days and managed to survive. Raiders certainly isn't the grunt he was playing himself off to be - I'm not sure what he is, however.

If it comes down to it I'll be willing to cast our vote for either of those guys if you have strong reasons to believe they are the Chryssalid. For now, my money still says that Fouts is the 2nd Chryssalid in the pack of aliens.

Ok, I'm surprised they didn't convert me last night. I believe they didn't get digamma either. The rest of you.. who knows. They don't talk to me anymore because I spilled the beans trying to save CW.

Neon_Chaos is the one who converts people. He needs to die.

I vote Neon_Chaos

This is throwing me off, too. Digamma had been under the radar and is now breaking the silence. Maybe he has been observing, but I don't know if I buy his role. It seems like if he is in communication with the three other ectos, one of them can easily "validate" his information.

I am going to hold off voting until I see what Fouts has to say. It is important that we all vote today, because it looks like the aliens may almost have the numbers to swing things if they vote together.

This is a tougher game than normal with all the unknown roles and powers.

UNVOTE Raider's


I think this is a mistake and that we are targeting the wrong guy, but I will wait and see.


And where is Qwik? I think it would be a great ploy for the aliens to convert him because we ALL believe that he is good and would take for granted anything he says at this point.

Swaggs, I ran the numbers in a post earlier. Here was my summary.

One wrong vote + one conversion = even numbers = game over?

I think the absolute ONLY way to interpret last night is that Qwik has been converted. He's too powerful for the aliens to leave lying around. His ability is way too good of a weapon for the good guys to have.

That being said, I don't think we can do anything about it...lynching him if he hasn't been converted would be tantamount to suicide, and there are much more threatening aliens out there.

Agreed, King. I think we are at the point where we can't treat Qwik as an absolute. Whether he was converted or not, we lost a valuable edge last night with that certainty gone.

I think you are right.

We need to vote as a bloc tonight, as well. If we split our vote for the wrong person, the aliens can railroad us with their vote and we will be in a very bad spot.

And furthermore, if CW was actually the bodyguard, they would risk Qwik assuming the role.

Hoops, you'll note that despite my noting of the wavering on Blade, it all happened before Qwik's reveal so I considered it completely above-board. I don't know if you're X-COM now, but I'm 100% convinced you were X-COM on day 2.

Well, I guess I should say we THINK there are much more threatening aliens out there -- we know that there is at least one who is converting us to aliens, or taking us under alien control.

Does anyone else have a viewing power? I know Qwik and myself had the ability to scan after night 1 conversion. CW claims to have been able to scan at that time as well.

I was able to scan again after this conversion. CW is dead and Qwik is an uncertain now. If anybody else has an ability to scan after a conversion. Now is the time to come forward.

Mr. W, we need to stop focusing on Hoop's at least for today because he is not a 100% alien kill. Like I said, I scanned him after conversion 1 and he was clean. I scanned him today and he was clean again. Yes, he might very well be an alien, but he is not a Chryssalid.

And here I thought no other werewolf game would top the record from last game for invented powers, roles and visions. :)

Raiders claims the ability to be able to scan. Of course, he is in the axis of evil. You know its funny, if you come out and tell everyone the truth, they distrust you. Why not go with my plan? Kill Neon, Raiders, then Hoops.

Its amazing how many times Neon has escaped the chopping block. They want you to lynch me, so they don't look guilty when they kill me.

Mr. Wednesday, if you believe that I was X-com on day 2 then you should also believe that Digamma is lying at this point in time. He is saying I was converted Night 1. I am strongly suggesting that he was converted last night. Fouts also said I was converted before there was a second conversion. Again, if you believe I was on your side on Day 2 then these two are lying.

Whoever was converted is not the primary enemy right now - unless someone believes that the converted aliens can also convert? I'm not buying that. We need to get the 2nd Chryssalid.

I'm smirking at Fouts defining the axis of evil. Need an icon for that ...

This is completely true. However, I'm not going to be here for most of the day (and for the vote), so I'm sticking with my vote of Neon_Chaos because of my reasoning back in posts #517 and #473. I think that regardless of what we think that CW was, Neon_Chaos is a bad guy. Based upon everything that happened yesterday, we have only three options:

1) If CW was telling the truth about his scan, then Neon_Chaos IS the Chryssalid, there is no arguing that.

If CW was a bad guy, however, and lying to us for his benefit...then we have two MORE options.

2) Neon_Chaos is not a bad guy. If CW's gambit worked, we would have hung him, found out he was a good guy, and then immediately turned upon CW. The Aliens would have gotten a 2-for-1 situation (one good guy, one night kill/conversion, only one Alien dead) -- which doesn't make sense, because before CW opened his mouth, we had practically no idea what we were doing, and the Aliens had at least a good chance of getting a 2-for-0 situation (we vote a good guy, they kill/convert a good guy, don't necessarily lose a bad guy the next day). This strategy seems flawed. The only way this strategy looks good is if CW is a 'brutal wolf' type character who can take someone out as he dies -- then the Aliens get a 3-for-1 swing. Since CW died, and didn't kill anyone in the process (though he tried), that further makes this strategy look bad.

3) Neon_Chaos is a bad guy (anyways), and CW was trying to set it up so he was considered a good guy the rest of the way. I think this is a strong strategy, and until recently had thought it a strong possibility.

In two of these three scenarios, Neon is not a good guy. And in the only scenario in which Neon IS a good guy, CW is a bad guy, and his strategy makes very little sense. Hence my vote for Neon_Chaos.

Oh, just in case I didn't do it before...

I vote Neon_Chaos.

Actually, I want to lynch you because you bleed black. But I can't speak for the others.

I'm still waiting for you to address your Day 1 vote of Schmidty. And if you had insider information on the aliens then why did you sit on it until two minutes before the vote yesterday? I can't believe you aren't having to answer more questions.

I'm half expecting Fouts to vote for himself next ... "It seemed to work for Neon ..."

I was a slave to the aliens and had to lay low. Once I found out who the bodyguard was, my priorities changed. I just want to survive this, but without the bodyguard it doesn't seem possible, so I put everything on the table. To tell you the truth, if I could sneak out the back door and you guys fight it out, I would gladly do that.

Heading out to class. Hopefully Neon will finally get what is coming to him. You can lead a horse to water, but....

Fouts -- when did you know who the aliens were? Immediately?

Well, I'm off to work. I've said my peace, and made my vote the only way I think it should be made. I'm off to work for the first time in a month and a half -- I probably won't be back until about 10, 10:30 PST. Good luck, gentlemen.

So, we are split between Neon Chaos and Fouts right now, right?

This statement has me worried. I know for a fact that hoops guy was NOT converted. And then when I mentioned that Raider's is the ony person to vote for both Peregrine and CW (who I believe was human due to red blood) he tells me to unite if I am human to take me off my vote for Raider's and presumably vote Neon.

I'm almost tempted to just vote Qwik because he has said almost nothing all day probably because he doesn't know what to do with his new "alien" role. Right now it is 7-4 and we are voting for Neon because of Qwik's scan, but we already got Blade who was part of that same scan. On night 1, I scanned Blade, Peregrine and Hoops and I also got a read on a Chyrssalid. I can not see how Neon is a Chryssalid and that is why I did not vote for him yesterday. Back on post 453, Jeeber makes a good point. Why would the aliens kill Peregrine and leave Neon to die?

If we kill Neon and he is a good guy we lose another tonight unless a guard/doctor gets lucky we are down to 5-4. Then who do we target tomorow?

If Neon is an alien we are up 6-3 at the end of the day barring a save.

If we kill Qwik and he HAS been converted we are still up 6-3.

Alrighty. I've got to go. I'll check in one last time, but tonight I have to go to a meeting from 7 to 8 EST. I'll put in my vote for someone at that time. All I can do is reiterate that it should be either Fouts or digamma on the chopping block tonight. I am leery of voting for Neon_Chaos since the last game we played and we had someone accused for a while and they were forgotten, but brought up again, they were hung and they turned out to be a good guy.

I'm sure that Fouts, digamma, and two other people (maybe kingfc22???) are aliens. kingfc22 may be safe since he voted for me when others wouldn't...which I find very interesting. His vote not with everyone else against Neon tells me that he isn't on their "hidden" agenda. Then again, he unvoted...

Like in the last few games, Neon is a target of opportunity. Why kill him if we do it ourselves? That was the strategy of the creatures/wolves the past two times I've played. I won't be played like that again.

I believe the non-aliens need to stick together. This vote is crucial.

Unvote hoopsguy.

Vote Neon_Chaos.

And Fouts has me confused as well. This slave role he claims seems to be way too powerful. You know the aliens, yet you are on the side of the humans. I played the hostage role in the previous WW game which I think is similar to the role you claim ot have. As the hostage, I had no clue who was holding me captive.

That has me worried too, king. I'm afraid I sent my scan results to a bad guy. He knows who he is and he can come forward if he wants.

Looks like King was converted last night. He is picking targets randomly, which is what their plan is - to confuse everyone. We might have a chance at winning if the converter dies tonight. I'm sure it will rest on Swaggs and Jeeber, like last night. I hope you two make the right choice this time.

Out the door this time. Good luck.

Does anyone read what I wrote? What are people's thoughts on my analysis? I'm starting to feel like I'm the only sane person here.

Based on post-death comments made in another thread, I believe that Blade was some sort of "boss" at the time of his death.

I am convinced that Hoops was acting as a good guy through his vote for Blade on day 2 -- that doesn't seem consistent to me with a night 1 conversion, but I suppose (especially considering Fouts very odd claims) it's not completely out of the question for him to have been sort of partially converted but still acting on our side that day.

Bascially, here's why I'm still harping on what happened yesterday.

EVERYTHING since then has been confusing. Fouts, digamma, everyone claiming roles, etc. It's going to be well nigh impossible to draw a bead through all of this carnage. Lies, truth...I'm confused as hell over what's been going on. This is why I'm sticking with Neon -- my analysis seems to make sense (to me at least), and it takes all of the tomfoolery from today out of the equation.

I'm leaving now for work for real, so I won't be back to check in. But would someone at least THINK about what I said?

Vince, I'll try not to forget your contribution as the accusations continue to fly.

Vince, it makes perfect sense to me, but perhaps that is because I have the added knowledge about Coffee Warlord.

I've changed my vote to Neon, in part because of your posts. We need to stick together, here.

The only reason I'm afraid to go with Neon is that it's been talked about for so long that the aliens would just bandwagon as well and then what do we do tomorrow?

I think we need to take a chance on someone and then see how the votes play out.

Fouts, if you are some sort of slave, what is your goal? To help the aliens succeed? To become free? What is your usefulness to them? Did you enter the game effectively playing both sides, with the aliens always having a free conversion to use on you? Help me understand what you claim your role to be.

No I have not been converted. I am here to blast aliens and save humanity. Again, the role you claim to have is TOO powerful. I ask again, why would you know all the aliens ID's and be on the humans side.

Anyone who is thinking about believing Fouts, go back and read his posts the last three days of the last werewolf game. He is up to the same BS, promising that he is a savior while we gore ourselves to death. We don't have unlimited time to get this right. I'm not sure where the sheepish "I want to hide" attitude comes into play - that is the only thing that I don't understand.

The only reason I'm worried about Qwik not showing up yet is that I'm worried we won't have much time to respond to whatever it is he posts. So we'll have to decide on the fly if he is friend or foe.

Fouts you want Neon, Raider's and Hoops killed.

Neon - too easy of a target for the aliens to bandwagon on
Hoops - I've viewed him twice and both times he was clean
Raider's - the only one of the 3, I have targeted as an alien, but his last post #665 has changed my mind

Ok. I'll put my last card on the table. I am the spy. Originally, they thought I was their spy, so I was involved in their communications. Once I found out who the bodyguard was, I saw my way out. I could give notes to the bodyguard, telling him who to protect each night. I HAD to save the bodyguard, because without him, I was doomed to a life with the aliens. I tried to leave hints to you guys throughout the game. I guess soldiers just don't trust anyone.

There it is, believe it or not. Neon (converter), Raiders (receives images), Hoops (converted, alien cheerleader). They converted someone last night, not sure who, but they left me to frame for the whole deal.

To end the conversions, we need to kill Neon. If he lives, our chances are miniscule.

This confirms your conversion. The whole plan is to set me up. Lets hope the real humans don't fall for it.

Do we have to add another to the axis of evil?

Ok, I'm out the door. Hopefully I'll return tonight with my neck still intact.

That makes no sense. First you were a slave. Then you were their spy. Now you are a human spy.

This is what I was waiting for.

I know that hoopsguy has been converted and now, it appears, as if kingfc22 has also been converted. I'm not absolutely certain, but I also believe that Raiders Army and Neon Chaos are aliens, with Neon Chaos being the alien with the ability to convert us into them.

Vote Neon Chaos

A man is silent for a bit and all of a sudden *poof* he's a bad man.

Today was a busy day. I haven't received any real new information, so I'm in the process of figuring out all that is going on.

I'm also frustrated in losing CW.

That's weird, how do the aliens start out thinking he's their spy, but he's really our spy? None of this role stuff makes any sense to me. I know somebody's trying to play me, but I'm not sure who.

OK, I want to return to one point that I think may be getting lost in translation here. We have two different people who have scanned me and have different results. Digamma says he scanned me last night and I was converted. King says he scanned me night one and I wasn't converted. How is this possible?

Fouts would have you believe that King is lying. He would have you ignore the voting evidence the day after my conversion, which seems sufficient to convince at least Mr. Wednesday that I'm telling the truth.

I would have you believe that Fouts is lying and that Digamma was converted last night. Have I missed any of the particulars that surround this little drama right now?

I don't think this is the best thing for us to do, but I'm more than willing to let it come down to this:
1.) If you think I'm lying vote for me. If I'm revealed as the alien and/or the convert, then you should have a roadmap for how to proceed.
2.) If you think Fouts is lying, then shoot him tonight. If he's revealed as the alien then we have at least one more easy target for tomorrow.

My worry in putting this out there like this is that I don't know how many conversions the aliens have left and I'm very concerned that one wrong kill = game over. Also, Fouts is making it neat and tidy that you kill three straight people and it is game over. I understand that people want to believe this - it makes it a heck of a lot easier to play this for the rest of the weekend. You can almost taste the victory. But since I'm one of the three on the chopping block here I'm obviously not in favor of this plan.

He is playing us. If you think I'm telling the truth you absolutely, positively, should vote for Fouts tonight. My vote stays on Fouts.

Swaggs, is this something you've concluded through the votes and conversations, or do you have some special insight to contribute to us?

I'm not concerned about this anymore.

Right now, this is feeling an awful lot like the VI endgame. For that reason, I'm going to go with my instinct and Vote Fouts.

Qwik, surely you tried looking in CW's room last night?

Didn't come up with anything damning.

Guess you have to update the above post to account for Swaggs being against me as well. Of course, if they think that Kingfc is the convert, then that means that Qwik should be believed, right? Here's hoping he can help sort out this mess.

Either way, the sides appear to be pretty set right now:
Fouts, Swaggs, Digamma
vs
Hoops, RA, Neon, Kingfc

Vince, Jeeber, Mr. Wedneday, and Quikshot will be the determining factors.

What sucks is that I'm convinced someone listed on my team is playing for the other guys :(

Mr. Wednesday, I do have some insight.

I am certain that you are human and I urge you to vote for Neon Chaos if you want us to win.

Clearly Digamma and Fouts are working together.

Mr. W - human
King - human
Hoops - human
Raider's - human
Jeeber - human

digamma - alien
fouts - alien


Swaggs- ?
Qwik - possible convert
Vince - ?
Neon - too easy of a target


This is how I break it down.

Interesting - I didn't realize that humans were allowed to PM between each other. Thought that was just the aliens/wolves/creatures/baddies that had that power. Or is this another hidden power with your role? I'm pretty certain that I didn't ever see a post of "Digamma scan results" in the last 14 pages - think I would remember that one.

As I explained in my reveal PM, I'm allowed to choose one person a night to whom to send my scans. Maybe you should read more closely.

I also posted fairly recently that I was no longer concerned that I sent my scan to a bad guy.

dola...

Sir Fozzie does the sending. I'm copied on the send.