Theme from "Jeopardy" is playing...

Shitty isn't it. I don't know if you are a wolf or not, but I met my demise the same way. Everyone's mentality is honestly that of a coward, thinking along the lines of "better him than me", and usually people just gang up on one as long as it isn't them themselves, because then they are safe for another day.

pretty realistic if you ask me. And I went through it the first game, so I know what it is like.

I'm not concerned, I'm going to have a good joke afterwards...I'm not even a wolf, I did what I had to do.

Final vote tally as I have it:

Qwikshot - 8 (NoMyths, KevinNU7, ntndeacon, Eaglesfan, Airhog, Lathum, Neuqua, Swaggs)
Condors - 2 (Desnudo, Mustang)
Desnudo - 3 (Condors, GWB, BrianD)
Jon - 1 (ntndeacon)
Eaglesfan27 -1 (Qwikshot)

At the end of the day, the panicky villagers surround Qwikshot, who is still trying to give his rational explanations for why someone else should be chosen. At some point he seems to snap, though, and starts laughing and cursing you all. "You fools, my death won't matter, my werewolf masters are still among you, and none of you will ever leave this place alive!" Luckily someone interrupts his witty banter by bashing his head open with a piece of firewood. Qwikshot was the Cultist!

Night Turn 4

Jon
Swaggs
TazFTW - Lynched on Day 2 (villager)
Airhog - Duke
NoMyths
Qwikshot - Lynched on Day 3 (Cultist)
Neuqua
ntndeacon
McSweeny - killed on Night 3 (Witness)
Shorty - Lynched on Day 1 (villager)
Kwhit
Mustang
BrianD
Condors
Eaglesfan
GWB
KevinNU7
Desnudo
Lathum

Please have your night actions PMed to me by midnight tonight.

Looks like those who voted for Qwikshot had it right. Good riddance, Cultist.

You guys are running short on villagers...:)

I'd imagine people will be going over his posts very closely now ;).

Finally a win...sortof! :)

Well we didn't get a werewolf but at least we got the next best thing

lol, 20 people viewing this thread right now.

I thought sorceror would be the next best thing...but I'm dead, so I digress.

It was all so amusing though...and another big win if my masters get an innocent tonight.

Better than television, I tell you. :)

Sweet. Everyone have a role here or something?? Duke, Cultist, Witness in the last three people...

FYI:

I have been swamped at work today (teaching a training class) and haven't been able to post. Just got in and am catching up. Please don't take my absence to mean anything more. Believe me, I would have much rather been playing werewolf!

GOTCHA!!!

Or at least close enough. :)

two possiblities
1. since he called out Eaglesfan27 he is a wolf
2. since he called out eaglesfan27 he isnt a wolf

Which fits better?

I think the second option fits much better :)

So Qwik wasn't on our side, but this wasn't really a win for the villagers. One more villager down, one step closer to a wolf win. At least he won't be able to talk us out of any wolf kills now.

you mean "he" as in eaglesfan?

He counted as a wolf for the final count, so this most certainly was a win for our side.

As far as a bit of info in regards to that last question. Remember that Qwikshot called me out when the vote was in question and he wasn't necessarily going to be hung. Therefore, it wasn't just a ploy to throw attention away from me. He genuinely wanted me dead. Perhaps, he somehow knew that I'm an innocent villager.

I didn't think he did count as a wolf in the final count. I'm pretty sure that only the wolves could as wolves. Either way, if we are going to kill a villager, better kill a cultist than an ordinary villager.

I think the vote for Eaglesfan was probably a distraction vote as well -- after all, he wouldn't have wanted to get a wolf. Lord knows I've adjusted my notes somewhat based on all the 'analysis' he gave us earlier. :)

Yes, but he did do that after I said that I felt he was only less suspicious than Qwikshot.

As I read the rules the game is over when there are no wolves OR there are only wolves and the Cultist and/or Sorcerer left as the latter two win if the wolves win.

Actually the wolves win if they ever reach a 1:1 ratio with the remaining villagers. Cultist and/or sorceror don't count for the werewolves in this, as it would be overpowering, I think.

I don't watch television, but I can't keep from coming back to this thread..

So it *must* be better than tv!

besides the wolves have no idea who the sorcerer or cultist is, so they could just as easily eat one of them on accident.

I'm holding off any speculation until the next turn ( assuming I'm not eatin) however, Qwik's comments and votes are very interesting. Especially his votes.

The question is did Qwik completely exclude a wolf from his list of 6 or did he split them up. Even if Qwik wasn't killed, it seems that Qwik would be high on the Seer's list would could probably see his evil. If he was outed, who is safer but the 6?

I don't think we can run the risk of excluding everyone on the list of 6 as being innocent just as much as we can include everyone off the list as being guilty. Qwik saw how Airhog's strategy blew up so, I'd imagine he took precautions to avoid that and snuck a wolf or wolves onto the list.. Only person that is 100 percent verifiably innocent right now is Airhog.

:) I'm smiling in hell, really I am.

That makes sense Mustang. Well except for the Airhog having strategy part. :) Qwik was adamant that the wolves were on his list even up to the end. He knew we would question his words making those 6 safer. I do think he might have split them up, but it does still make those 6 more likely to be wolves ...at least in my eyes.

And Shorty.

And McSweeney.

And Taz.

Sorry.. alive & innocent. Dead and innocent doesn't do us a whole lotta good. :p

I should have the night time update shortly, just waiting on one thing.

Many of you heard a commotion last night, but no one was willing to go out of their rooms to investigate. The morning breaks cold and bleak, and as you check the rooms, your discovery makes things seem much, much bleaker. There are not one but two bodies in the room. One, George W Bush is slashed and gnawed to the bone in many places, obviously a victim of the werewolves. However, from the blood trail, after the wolves had left he apparently was still alive long enough to go down the hall and stab Condors to death as well, taking his final revenge. Obviously GWB was the Hunter, but even more unfortunately Condors was an innocent villager!

Day Turn 4

Jon
Swaggs
TazFTW - Lynched on Day 2 (villager)
Airhog - Duke
NoMyths
Qwikshot - Lynched on Day 3 (Cultist)
Neuqua
ntndeacon
McSweeny - killed on Night 3 (Witness)
Shorty - Lynched on Day 1 (villager)
Kwhit
Mustang
BrianD
Condors - killed by the Hunter on Night 4 (Villager)
Eaglesfan
GWB - killed on Night 4 (Hunter)
KevinNU7
Desnudo
Lathum

Have your vote in by 8 pm. I don't need to tell you that the villagers need to get this one right.

Wow. The villagers suck.

oops. there goes my theory of my death being a set up for desnudo.

well that is a fine how do you do!

NO!

That is horrible for us. And there's a brutal wolf out there that will take someone with us. Hopefully when that happens he will kill the Sorceror

umm.. would I be alone in saying.. What the f*ck?

oops

What happens if a Brutal takes out a Hunter, or vice versa, and then the victim takes out his attacker. Would there be three victims?

I think three victims would only be possible if say the Hunter was killed, picked his target as the brutal wolf, then the brutal wolf could also kill someone else. Would be quite eventful. :)

So Qwik knew who the wolves were and to throw us off, he picked out six people. Knowing that Qwik was trying to throw us off, ntndeacon is still pushing the same six that Qwik was pushing. I think ntndeacon might be a wolf.

What are the plans through 4th of July weekend for the game?

Well there are 13 people left, and 2 will be killed each day. By Friday night the game could be over, either way. If we go into the weekend we'll decide later on in the week.

This is a beaut.

I'd have to read it all over but I have to agree. Qwik accused the six before it was clear that he would be lynched. This to me means that most of the 6 are not werwolves. Anyone who thinks otherwise is suspicious to me

Bah.. darn server issue, lost my response. :mad:

I would also tend to agree that most of the list are probably not werewolves. Since he knew all of the wolves, (That is a true statement right? I have to reread the roles again... ) I can't imagine he would leave that much of a road map pointing to all of the wolves even if he knew he was or wasn't going to die. At some point, he could have been exposed and this could have been one heck of a road map. Of course, I'd expect a seer to do the exact opposite that most of the list would be wolves... Maybe a 4/2 split either way. I missed NTN's earlier comments about the 'list of 6'.. I find that a curious statement seeing a few of us have the same opinion of the list right away....

I missed this the first time, guess that one thing was waiting on the hunter's kill...

The cultist knows all of the wolves, but the wolves don't know him. The seer may or may not know any of the wolves depending on who that person has viewed.

That's what I thought... although, was saying that if the seer did a list like that he might have weeded out a few wolves since they just couldn't come out and say it for fear of retribution.

I have meetings all day but I am going to try and check in from time to time.

This sucks. I'm not liking the shrinking numbers.

And Qwikshot did a hell of a nice job confusing us by splitting up the groups.

I have a very busy day ahead, but I will check in at some point.

Seems like the same 4 or 5 people are formulating opinions, options that aren't leading us any closer to the wolves and all we are doing is just prattling on, steering ourselves in the wrong direction and giving ourselves enough rope to hang ourselves.. both figuratively and literally... :confused:

Well, I just woke up a few minutes ago. This was a very unfortunate turn of events. I'm going out with a buddy for 4-5 hours. Please do not take my absence "as playing the game" or signs that I'm a werewolf. I'm not a werewolf and we really need to make a right decision and get one of those wolves tonight. I'll be back in time to read through the comments, think about them, and vote this evening.

OK, I just got back and I am going to throw this out for discussion. I am starting to be a little guilty of Eaglesfan. My reasoning is this. It is safe to assume that at least one of the 6 people on qwik's list is a werewolf. Eaglesfan is on that list, with that being said, once Qwik knew he was going down he voted for Eaglesfan. It seems to me he is trying to defer suspicion away from eaglesfan by both putting him on the list and by voting for him.

My feeling is this. I think eaglesfan is the brutal wolf, why do you ask. My assumption is that Qwik was trying to mess with us by putting eaglesfan on his list and then voting for him when it was already to late. The reason he picked eaglesfan is because he is the brutal wolf, and if someone sniffed out his plan at least eaglefan could take one of us down with him. I realize by suggesting this theory there is a good chance eaglesfan will take me with him, but I am willing to chance it.

I'm not a werewolf. I think Qwik put 6 innocents on it, but I don't know that. All I know is that you will be killing an innocent villager if you kill me.

Hi jeebs

I don't like assuming there are six innocents on Qwik's list, frankly, because I'm not on the list and do not want to be wrongly lynched. To me, there might be some information that is useful on those lists, but what it really does is potentially split us into two groups to vote against one another and by doing that, the wolves (whichever side they are on) could swing things and continue to pick us off. :(

The only thing we have going for us is that the seer should be able to pick up a werewolf or two in the next few days, because the odds are getting better and better.

Does the cultist see which person is the brutal wolf or do they just see wolf?

Only the dead know. :)

Wow - this is getting pretty ugly for the villagers.

Apparently Qwikshot took most of the discussion with him to his grave, it's so quiet you can hear a werewolf pounce in this thread. ;)

This post was #666 of this thread.

Cool.

Ya.. no kidding. Guess I better start formulating opinions again. Was hoping my comments would spur some people to chat and come up with some fresh ideas and thoughts.

If the game was hunt for the devil, you'd be dead tonight. :D

Everyone who sparks a discussion gets lynched, can you blame them for being quiet? ;).

*crickets*

The only things I feel like I know are that Airhog is not a werewolf sympathizer and that Eaglesfan27 either clearly is a werewolf or clearly is not (depending on whether or not Qwikshot thought reverse psychology would work on us). That's a 1 of 2 choice to me right now, while everyone else is a 1 of 11 (taking myself and Airhog out of my consideration). Any thoughts?

The Dead can Dance, they can't speak...

Here are the 6 that Qwik picked: KevinNU7, Eaglesfan27,NoMyths, Lathum, GWB, BrianD.
I'm not a wolf, and GWB is dead. KevinNU and NoMyths jumped up and voted for Qwik right after he made his list. Eaglesfan and Lathum joined in later. GWB, Mustang and I voted elsewhere. Condors got a few votes and Desnudo got a few votes. ntndeacon was the only one to vote for Jon.

I thought ntndeacon was a wolf earlier, and now I'm thinking that his solo vote for Jon makes him look more like a wolf. His vote seemed completely random and designed to avoid notice since he didn't follow any of the other groups. I think he was trying to avoid notice.

I vote ntndeacon

Actually, adjusting over what I said before, I guess everyone else is probably more like 2 or 3 (depending on how many wolves there are) out of 11, so I guess the odds are a little closer than I originally placed them.

What I meant last night is that we can not rule out the 6 on Qwik's list out of hand, just because he was the cultist. Several others have said basically the same thing. Y'all are right that Qwik gave the list when it wasn't clear who was going to be lynched. It is his harking back to his list once it WAS clear he was going to be lynched that makes me nervous abous some of the people on the list. He had to know it was a possibility at the point he made the list. (I think he had a couple of votes already.)
As for my singular for for Jon, well I was not here long afterward. I was convinced that Jon was a werewolf. However after reading some of the posts as to what others were thinking I could see myself changing my vote, if I had gotten back soon enough.

Well since my voting for someone who has not been mentioned up until that point, I will vote this time for someone who has been mentioned on several occasions. At least until i see a more likely suspect.
I vote Desnudo

I think ntndeacon and Eaglesfan are the most likely suspects at this point, although if you asked me to base something on anything other than intuition, I'd have to admit there's not much to go on.

I also think that if we fail to get a werewolf tonight, and someone also gets eaten, that we are nearly lost. So it's important to take the time to make the right decision.

While I'm not sure who I'm voting for, my gut tells me that EaglesFan is not a wolf.

Man, I was I had joined this. Looks like a lot of fun.

I'm a little skeptical of ntndeacon at this point.. There was the initial agreement by 3 of us on the content of Qwik's list. NTN seemed to be trying to steer us towards the people on the list as werewolves and then quickly backtracked when called on it and changed his tune. I think he was putting out feelers on if anyone would still believe in this list and get some backers. I would have expected that his wolf companions would have jumped in to help but, given the lack of response today, the other wolves may not have seen his comments yet.. Of course, now that probably won't happen as he has been questioned and accused by a few people.

For now, I'll have to go with the lone odd comments of the current day and

Vote NTNDeacon

Barring any new revelations that I hope will still come as we have what.. 4 hours left to vote???

Hm.. although, odd that Desnudo just brought up NTNDeacon's name right after NTN voted for him... With a NTN having a few votes, is Desnudo trying to steer us towards NTN?

I'll have to relook at past voting...

I don't know if this means anything, but ntndeacon voted for Desnudo after I voted for ntndeacon. It is possible that Desnudo jumped on ntndeacon since he alread had a vote.

This makes me highly suspicious of Nomyths.

Are seers and sorcerers revealed when they die?

Plus it probably annoyed Desnudo that this is the second time I voted for him.

I believe everything but cursed is revealed when you die, Swaggs.

A few other reasons that Makes Nomyths suspicious.

1. He defends eaglesfan as being just a villager, and that Qwikshot would never vote for a wolf.

2. He stated before that he was actively looking for the seer. He says it's for guidance, but I believe that he wants to eat him.

Could be. I've been a little curious myself....

These are good points--particularly the second one.

Ah, spreading your wolvish lies into other threads, eh? ;)

Are you kidding me???

I was the first person to vote for Qwikshot--the only evil person we've correctly targeted yet. Throughout this whole game I've been consistently vocal in leading the charge against suspicious characters...in fact, the only success we've had has been because of me targeting Qwik at pretty large risk to myself.

As far as trying to get our attention focused on how the seer might be trying to give us hints, I specifically concealed any information that might point to his identity, trying to protect him. If I was trying to kill him, I wouldn't have bothered.

Meanwhile, Airhog, you've been uniquely responsible for the death of one innocent. All game I've had fire on me, and I've kept trying to win things for our side. If you ask me, it's been working against us that you keep trying to target me. By now the seer has already verified that I'm not a wolf. If it wouldn't hurt our chances, I'd lynch you just out of spite for consistently leading us in the wrong direction.

I said that I felt Eagles was probably not a wolf. Probably. He's certainly raised some questions, but I've got bigger questions about others. However, as we can once again see, me leading the charge only seems to get me in hot water, even when I'm right. Fine. Y'all take over the analysis. I'll vote how you want me to. Sticking my neck out isn't worth a puddle of piss.

The only success we've had has been directly because of me. But do what you want.

Seems NoMyths has been relatively quiet since the opening days and the near lynching...

dola...

And since I might be out tonight, I'll go ahead and vote for one of the quieter folks that I've been suspicious about.

I vote ntndeacon

So much for NoMyths being quiet. :D

Now to my reason for voting for Desnudo. I suspected him early on as he began to accuse several people of being a wolf. He did do this in a joking manner, but accusing several people at the time was suspicious. If it had just been me or just been condors, I could have just ignored it. Of course that made the votes of condor and myself "getting back at Desnudo." And after Airhog was exposed as the Duke there was no one credible that had voted for him. Now, we get to the next vote. 3 people vote for Desnudo. Condors, who still holds a percieved grudge, and two new folks that do not have a percieved grudge against him. GWB and BrianD. Of course who is next to go? One of the two. GWB's killing of Condor was an unexpected bonus.
Finally, it is clear that his earlyvotes have all been seen to be not werewolves. There maybe others who have this distinction, I don't know, but here are his votes.
Day 1...Airhog (the Duke)
Day 2 ...Airhog (the Duke) I will admit that practically everyone voted here so not much support is gained from this vote.
Day 3...Condors (villager) perhops GWB's errant killing can have a silver lining here.
Day 4...me (villager) I realize this isn't known by a lot of us yet, but it is true none the less. I assume 3-6 folks know I am not a wolf at least. the 2 original wolves, a possible 2 additional cursed wolves, a possible brutal wolf not a part of the two, and me. (Although I was under the assumtion that one of the 2 original wolves would be brutal, but icould be wrong there.)

Ok, I am reading through the posts before I leave work and I am going to mull things over on my ride home. I'll vote when I get there.

How is that? Because Desnudo had to pick a new target?

I think you lost me on the last part though? (#4)

man i guess i shouldn't have waited around to use my witness powers huh?

Perhaps Qwikshot put 6 innocnets in his list so he'd effectively waste the seer's viewings on a bunch of villagers