NHL Eastside Hockey Manager 2005 US
$29.99

SUBTOTAL US
$29.99
TAX US
$0.00

TOTAL CHARGED US
$29.99


Now I hope I don't end up feeling like an ass for downloading and paying for something that was put up in error. I am confident that SI won't let that happen though.

It is also possible that the price was an error as well.

We'll do our best ... as usual :D

If anyone has then basically don't panic we'll sort it out - worst that you should have to do is download a new file to install.

dan wasson

From Mark Duffy

We did want to go live on Friday with the digital download, however due to a last minute hitch this was postponed

We are re-commencing on Monday morning and we hope to have it soon after

Those who downloaded a version that appeared on this site should note that you will not have to pay again and the game should function correctly but it's not the final version that will appear here

Should you have any issues, please email me *address in profile* and I'll happily work on your issues

This download has gone on much longer than we anticipated. We are working hard to ensure that it doesnt go on much more.

Thanks for your patience

Patience is a virtue? ..or something like that? Shoot....


Todd

woot! so basically I can play the ass off this version just as a tester game and then re-DL on Monday. Excellent, since I stupidly offered an offer sheet to Roman Hamerlik which cost my Bruins 4 (!!) first-round picks and I'm still tanking the season.

Another day, still no DD...

Argh!
~rpi-fan

Any update? Is it live?

I won the 2009 Stanley Cup over the weekend. The Capitals beat the surprising Minnesota Wild 4-1. It was looking like it was going to be a re-match of the 2008 Cup Finals pitting Washington versus the dominant Vancouver Canucks. The Canucks blew through the first two rounds of the playoffs, sweeping both their opponents. But the Wild, fueled by young phenoms Sidney Crosby, Marion Gaborik, and Patrick O'Sullivan, upset the Canucks in the Western Conference Finals. It was stunning.

In the end, however, the Eastern Conference Champs and their own sensational young guns, Ovechkin and Kessel (among so many others), proved to be too much for the up-start Wild. Game 4 in Minnesota was the back-breaker. A triple overtime thriller that saw Swedish Import Magnus Khanberg snuff out Minnesota's last hope with a thrilling goal. (Khanberg also scored the game tying goal in the 3rd) Phil Kessel, who has scored 70 points in 60 career playoff games, won the Con Smythe.

We're about halfway through the 2009-2010 season and the Caps are showing no signs of slowing down. They are #1 in the East. Ovechkin and Kessel are just getting better and better and better... Stephen Weiss has been on fire. And goalie Henrik Lundqvist has been a rock in goal. We're talking Vezina-like quality.

The only drawback so far was a waiver draft miscalculation on GM H_B's part that forced the Caps to place recently acquired Austrian forward Oliver Setzinger into the draft pool. The 26 yr. old "rookie" was playing some amazing hockey in the pre-season. He had clearly made the team and looked to be top quality, quite a find. Unfortunately the dreaded Canucks stole him away during the waiver draft. None too pleased with this...

Things are looking good on the ice of our nation's capital.

Honolulu_Blue

do you feel this game is too easy or pretty challenging?

wow it didnt take you long to make the Caps win the Stanley Cup.

I found it challenging enough. A few things to note:

1) The Capitals salary cap starts at around $40 million. I was working pretty well within that range. I signed one or two mid-level UFA's but nothing major. That cap ballooned to $60 million and is now at $80 million. This allowed me to go out and get some high-priced guys (Tkachuck (that one didn't work out), McCabe, Jeff O'Neil, Kyle McClaren, and Saku Koivu). Though I have a pretty solid team built through the draft and trades, I probably wouldn't have won the Cup without some of those guys.

2) While the Capitals start the game behind the 8-ball, they actually have some decent talent in the farm system. I think hockeysfuture.com ranks their prospects the best in the NHL (or if not, in the top 5). Alexander Semin is good, Oulette has promise, Ovechkin of course, Shaone Morrison, Eminger, Mike Green, Erik Fehr, among others. While most of these guys are no longer with the Caps in my game (save Eminger, Green, and Ovechkin), I was able to use those young players in trades to acquire other players/picks.

3) Trading is fun, but not easy. I have yet to feel that I scammed the AI in any trades. There are a few deals that I feel I really benefitted from, but no outright robberies. Trading my first round pick (#9, I think) and a third rounder to move up to take Kessel is one. Trading a first round pick for Weiss, another. In acquiring a lot of my current players (Hartnell, Williams, Zetterberg, Horton, Phaneuf, etc.) I had to dump prospects and picks. There is a gap at the moment in my system. That could come back to haunt me, though the core of my team (for the most part) is still under 26 yrs. old.

from Grant Appleyard-Sports Interactive today

"Hi all,

First up - you guessed it - it's not the best news just yet although it is getting better! I've been working today with our digi download partner but unfortunately timezones have worked against us and we won't be ready to go live this evening. Tomorrow is looking extremely
good for the Live day though! We're literally into the final stages now, please bear with us..

Cheers,
Grant"

http://community.sigames.com/eve/ubb...831#1562049831

Loverly!
Thanks very much.

is there a way that i'm missing to set your team needs to "draft picks" ? Cuz I'm wanting to dump players and pickup draft picks as I'm in for a long retooling process and I'm down some draftpicks already, but I can't find that option. that was one of the things i loved about the freeware EHM, trading stars for draftpicks so i could reload later.

edit: right now as far as I can tell the options just go down to "prospects" but there's not one for draft picks :-(

Aw, jeez, I intended to wait until the next patch was out, but H_B has me ready to play again. I'm trying to resist.

The team trade mode that says the team is looking for prospects is the one that also means they are looking for draft picks as well.

And this is the part that I'm fairly proud of....although I still keep seeing people complain about the trading. But then again, I could tweak and improve it for about a decade or put a real life GM into the box with the CD and people would still come back with comments about something not being like they would want it. But that's just the nature of the beast :)

JeffR probably had the best way of putting this phenomenon into words once:
"If SI put out a game where, when you opened the box, a supermodel magically appeared and had sex with you, a couple of hours after it came out you'd have complaints on the board that she wasn't that good in bed..."

But hey, such is life :D

Jeff must have been reading the Billy Bob Thornton thread. :D

Well, considering this quote came from him about a year ago when we had just released the first game....then he must be either close to Billy Bob personally or have access to a time machine....

And considering the amount of stuff Jeff gets done with the research and all, I'd bet on the time machine theory.... ;)

Uh-oh, busted. Better make a run for the DeLorean.

(And I still think your "complaints on the board about her hair color" change works better, Riz. Particularly after reading enough posts about our disrespect of Latvia and the lack of dismemberments in the fighting commentary. ;) )

Oh yeah, be warned...according to some "sources" there's not much different between the first NHL EHM and NHL EHM 2005 :rolleyes: Well, everyone can have their own views on that right ?

Any news on the direct download? Looks like it's coming very soon!

I had a weird message in my game lat night. The US was playing Austria in the Olympics. I forget the exact text, but it was something along the lines of the US was very disappointing in its play, and the kicker:

They were lucky to come away with a 9-0 victory.

These kinds of messages are often a little disconnected from the score, but I've never seen one as off as this.

http://community.sigames.com/eve/ubb...5/m/3292051931


http://d.trymedia.com/d/segaeu/999d_...2005_setup.exe

awesome the digital download is available.

I was curious about something. In my first pre-season with the Capitals I had 3-4 games scheduled against what appeared to be Mexican teams. I think they were Mexican. Whatever they were, I destroyed them and never heard from or of them again.

What's up with that? Do all the NHL teams play these guys in year one?

I was going to set up a my first game and am not sure what leagues to select. I will pick all the N.A. leagues but am not sure what EURO leagues to select. Which ones are the best? I was thinking of picking: Sweden, Russia, Germany, Denmark, and Norway.

I think the Czech league you definitely would want.

As for Norway, I don't think their domestic league is very impressive (there has actually only ever been one Norwegian NHL All-Star... Espen Knutsen). Denmark isn't a bad choice, but Finland would probably have more relavance to the NHL.

In fact, I started my game without choosing Finland (had NHL, AHL, ECHL, CHL, Sweden, Czech, Russia, Germany), and am going to start over because Finland is one I definitely want in there.

Every once in a while, the code seems to pick up these Mexican teams to play an exhibition game against an NHL team simply because they are on the same continent so it is more convinient than going over to Europe. Naturally not much of this happens in real life so I'll try to tweak this in the next update.

BTW, props for all who being patient, allowing me to be also for once and not ordering from GoGamer, thus saving myself probably more than $20? Thanks to all those others who brought up my will to avoid the GoGamer purchase!

~rpi-fan :)

Can't wait to get home...

Eastsiiiiiiiide!

Thanks RPI-Fan

yep i am so happy i waited for the digital download.

Gogamer prices are too high for there games.


i so happy we get a free upgrade in sept when they release the game to North America.

and it looks like RIZ working on the next patch.

Riz, thanks so much for an excellent game

In case anyone's curious, upon starting over, I went with:

NHL, AHL, ECHL, AAL-3, AAL-4, CHL, Sweden, Czech, Russia, Finland, Germany.

~rpi-fan

Are there any good add-ons I should download and use?

~rpi-fan

this site is great.

http://www.sortitoutsi.net/

on the left side, there links for graphics and utilities

Which ones are you using, and/or do you recommend?

not sure yet.


but i think the facepacks and skins are pretty cool.
logos too.

One little nitpick:

There should be restrictions on certain bonuses you can offer to players. I.E. you shouldn't be able to offer a 65 SHG bonus (or if you do it should actually get the player mad at you). It would also be nice if from 1-10 we could choose any digit rather than just 1, 5, or 10.

do we need to get the latest patch also for the digital download?

thanks

Good question... the version I have says 2.0.1 TR

Is that right?

still downloading mine.

but if it says 2.01 then i guess we dont need to get the patch.

i believe 2.01 is the latest version

2.0.1 is the latest version.

The DD version is basically the patched version (ie. the first patch that brings it to version 2.0.1). So if you buy this online version, there is no need to download the current patch available for the boxed copy.

We are working on a second patch which will address issues raised in the community both code and data wise. There is no ETA for this one yet but the initial testing on it has already started with some things still being fixed.

This pricing issue has been explained in the thread on the SI forums by Duffy. Basically because the game is out in retail in Europe, we are not allowed to undercut or undermine retail in such territories with a cut price digital download deal. Which means that in some places in Europe (or currently pretty much anywhere in the NA) when you cannot find it in a local store, you'll need to either get it imported, get it specially ordered to the store, order it from an online store such as play.com or buy the digital download version. So there are different options available.

As much as I would like to have the game available in "a gamestore near you" for every single hockey fan, its just not going to happen with the kind of market we are talking about. But then again, this is why we need to make the DD versions available as well. And we are truly sorry that this time around it took longer than expected to sort the DD out and online.

FWIW riz, as someone who played the hell out of EHM freeware and then bought EHM:FE basically without even trying the demo, I offer the following summation.

EHM freeware - played the hell out of it, loved the hell out of it, simply awesome

EHM:FE - played it a bit, never really got "into" it. it didn't have that inexplicable "immersive" feeling. Probably played it a total of...24 hours total...tops.

EHM 2005 - been waiting on the digital DL since the demo...grabbed the one that wasn't supposta be up the other night, and have already logged 7+ hours of playing time. 2005 definately has that "immersive something" that EHM:FE lacked, whether it's substantially all that different or not. I don't know what it is, but it just...is better. I know that doesn't help, but maybe it makes you feel better.

Riz-

for the people who bought it friday should we just redownload the game?

Riz-

for the people who bought it friday should we just redownload the game?

Riz-

for the people who bought it friday should we just redownload the game?

:D

Can you download the manual as well?

Here's mine:

EHM Freeware - Never played. Tried, but didn't work on my comp.

EHM:FE - Played a TON. Got through 7 seasons with the Kings, making the playoffs only once (by 1 point), and was swept out.

EHM 2005 - Played for a few hours. I'm having the exact same problems I had in EHM:FE. I cannot win. I was 0-5-1 before I gave up. No matter what I do, teams beat me. I just don't get it.

Some might say I'm giving up too easy, but this is the same exact thing that happened in the last version. I hope I can rejuvinated.

Stick with what you have, it should work fine and SI has your transaction details. If you have problems, let them know.

Should be included in the download.

coaching the games yourself rex, or letting your head coach do it? i find at least at this stage that I am having more success letting my coach handle all that and just concentrating on player acquisition.

it comes with the digital download.

after you install it, look in the sega/ehm folder and look in the manual folder.

be sure to have adobe reader install on your computer.

be carefull with practice..

the head coach dont handle everything in the practice screen. so you going to have to monitor some things in there yourself.

like the coaches your going to assign to practice and making sure not to have a coach handle more than 3 categories.

also you going to have to handle the general, powerplay and powerkill %

I must admit. I handle everything. Player acquisition. Practice. Line combos. Strategy. Pre-game meals. You name. I cannot relinquish control over my team. I am the GM Coach. Though I do love my coaching staff. The fact that I have Rob Ray as my head coach and Dave Brown as an assistant makes me very happy.

Dave Brown was the first sports jersey i every got ! guy had the best left in the game prior to his rotator cuff surgeries, Old time hockey

Stop being the Kings. That might help :p

Anyone have a file with real arena names?
How about media pundits?

I was just offered the job of running the USA U-20 team. I am pretty excited by this. In all my EHM/FM/CM experience I have never taken control of an international squad. I am not exactly sure how I go about identifying all the best players who are available.

I must also fight the urge to stock the team with my own prospects, giving them invaluable international experience. :D Though at the moment my top defensive prospect, John Watson, is the Captain of the team.

Speaking of Watson, this kid (a second round pick) better pan out. He looks very promising. Decent speed, great positioning/checking/hitting. He's only 19 and those key defensive stats are all there. He doesn't have much in the way of offense, but that's ok. The only thing is, I recently had the opportunity to trade his rights for Rick Nash. I may be regretting not doing the deal, but the cupboard is pretty bare for defensive prospects and the moment and, to be honest, getting Nash would force me to trade one of my core guys, all of which I am pretty happy with. Still, I fear I will be regretting this move in the future. You should never pass up on talent like Nash. And he's only 25.

I hope this is a bug.

I am underachieving with the Flyers and read in the news i fired Ken Hitchcock. Hitch wasn't the problem :mad: and his replacement was the guy coaching Albany who isn't half the coach. I am going to get fired now and the extra draft picks i traded for will be for whoever replaces me.

Wait a second. You're the Flyers' GM and the game fired Hitchcock without you doing anything? Were you on "vacation" at the time?

nope not on vacation although i was letting Hitch do everything cause everytime i try to do the tactics and lines we lose.

For those that have played for a while - do your scouting reports disappear after a while? I have only played for about a month and a half of game time and don't have a problem, but I remember last year's EHM, the scouting reports would disappear after a couple months. Example: If you went out and scouted all the ISS-ranked players for the draft when the preliminary rankings came out in the fall and didn't scout them again before the draft, the players wouldn't have a scouting reports when you got to the draft. I was just curious as to what you have found.

Coaching myself...I play it just like FM/CM.

I honestly don't think I'd have as much fun if I wasn't coaching.

The scouting reports are stored up to a certain limit in the game, but once there are too many reports stored, the ones not accessed in the longest time will be the first to be overwritten. So they do not stay on forever unless you check them up every once in a while.

AHHHHHHH

any confirmation on this? a bug?

I want to know more about Hitchcock getting fired without you doing anything, Condors. Riz, is this a known bug? If not, perhaps Condors can send his file for you to look at?

I had the owners fire my Head Coach the first time I played the game before getting fired myself, but I was able to hire his replacement. This was with 2.0.0

Yup, it was a bug. From the Patch 2 changelist:

"Fixed head coaches being fired by your board when you're not coaching games"

ETA on patch 2?

From yesterday:

didn't see above post so edited out

starting a new game , game was much harder for me this time around.

The general manager points aren't supposed to reset every season are they? Mine reset after my second season, but I had thought that was a point system for tracking a career.

Is there a cfg command line that will unlock all the arenas this time around or did that get SI in trouble?

I don't believe there are any unlock commands, but I'm pretty sure that the "unofficial" data update will fix the arenas among other things. This update is supposed to be made available tomorrow.

for what leagues? and where we download it from.


is it the ones there going to add the real names and real team names?

thanks

I think it is a point system used more for comparing seasons than for tracking an entire career. But yes, they do reset after every season.

.

It'll be a while, probably going to be a fairly extensive patch. There are really no game-killing issues right now, though. The possible morale bug Riz mentioned before is either very rare, or doesn't seem to have much of an effect - I took over a 2-24 team and had it above .500 the rest of the season, so it's definitely possible to turn around a bad losing streak. The patch shouldn't break savegames, so I'd just keep playing the current version - that's what I'm doing with my game.

Awesome news. I'll jump back into the game, then. Thanks!

The first large scale unofficial data update is now up at:
http://www.eastside-uk.co.uk/

Contents are as posted above already.

I think I am installing this wrong. I unzipped all the files into the "data" folder and then copied the .dat files into the "database" folder. I still am playing in the beautiful "Washington Place."

Did you start a new game ?

Heck no! I've already spent: "10 Days, 22 Hours, 43 Minutes, and 33 Seconds" on this career.

Do I need to start a new game? If so, I will live with the "Washington Place."

North American Customers - $29.99
UK Customers - £29.99
Rest of the world - 44.99 Euros (=$54)

Uhh i'm sorry to say that the DD version is really overpriced for Europeans looking at the USA price, that politic doesn't look good to me. It's the offer/demand i guess who sets that prices but... a hockey game in Europe should need better marketing that in USA and no the other way, also this is a digital download that means less expenses on distribution, paper, CD etc. Of course it's your company and this is a free market so you can do whatever you want and the customers will decide. Now i need to decide if i will buy the boxed version in the future or not buy the game at all as i was waiting for this DD version to give it a try even not being a hockey fan but the DD is a sure no for me now (also i expected eLicense not again trymedia that had a lot of problems before if i'm not wrong).

Anyway this is just a rant after seing that price diference, i still think that SIgames produces the best text sims in the market, it's just the SEGA "Big company like" marketing what i don't like a lot but i guess it's the price for having more resources that will end on even better games from SI. Now if Heavyreign could have this resources for a new FBCB ahh that are wet dreams... ( hint MarcV ;) ).

The explanation, from Marc Duffy on the SI board: "Europe and UK have boxed copies available and we are not allowed to undercut or undermine retail in such territories with a cut price digital download deal."

SI/Sega can't ask European retailers to carry the game, then start selling a downloadable version at a lower price. Even if there weren't contractual agreements preventing it, it'd be a horrible business decision to annoy every retailer in Europe.

Makes sense but again having a hockey text sim at 45€ in Spain or other non hockey traditional countries for example guarantees you almost zero sales, while USA and Canada could easily become their best customers with a good retail distrbution channel. That is why i felt weird the high price in Europe compared with USA. It's not the same of course than FM that is loved here in Spain as we are a soccer country.

I started the demo with the Toledo Storm, I found this game to be a little overwhelming and gave up :(

I had no clue what to do, is there a beginner's tutorial or something similar?

dola:
Nice, i can't even download it to think again about my purchase option, didn't know you can't buy this game in Spain. I hope i won't suffer the same with the future OOTP.

NHL Eastside Hockey Manager 2005

Unauthorized
We're sorry. Our Systems indicate you are outside the territory authorized for distribution by the software publisher of this title.

Unfortunately, we do not have permissions from the publisher to sell this title outside of our approved territory.

Icy, I was in the same situation last year and ended up buying it for about €15 less through mailorder from cdon.com (Scandinavian online-retailer).. EB was charging the same as the DD-version..

Dola here too...


Try play.com or amazon.co.uk

Thanks Coder, this sounds good at play.com

Boxed version:
our price: EUR 39.99 Delivered

availability: In stock.
Usually dispatched within 24 hours.

I'll try the old demo (not that try&buy that i cant download) that i think can be downloaded from SI to decide.

Ball Dog - I am currently playing with Toledo as well. They are in the ECHL which is a sallary cap league and has a roster maximum level of 20. On Top of this ECHL teams dont have affiliates (to send players to). All of these factors makes this league very tedious (also fun for some) so if you are unfamliar with Hockey I would suggest starting right out in the NHL or maybe the OHL,WHL or QMJHL. The last three dont have a roster limit (I dont think) and there are no sallary caps so roster management is a little easier. You will have to deal with "vetran" maximums but other then that you will find it easier.

As for tutorials go to http://ehm.sortitoutsi.net/ they have some pretty good guides . I think they are located in the forums.

If you do decide to stay in the ECHL make use of transfering players out on loan if you are over you roster maximum.

Thanks, maybe I will check it out this weekend again with Columbus (NHL)

Founds some guides also...http://www.sortitoutsi.net/forums/in...howtopic=18847

Yes, those guides are good. Columbus has a good young core of players, and the board should be pretty easy on you the first year or two.

Good luck.

so we download the Unfaking Version 1?

does this take care of CHL+UHL Real Team and League Names? or we need to download that one too.

thanks