Dola - I might be back before deadline but I'll be picking my kid up at 7PM EST and we are going to the park after that. Then it will be time for dinner. If I'm able to log on for a couple of minutes prior to deadline I'll try to do it. But controlling the schedule of a two year old is at least as hard as controller the votes of villagers.

This game has suggested I'm not as good at the latter as I would like to think.

hmm, no traction on Autumn.

Unvote Autumn
Vote Hoops

PF -4 Autumn (3183), DT (3220), Hoops (3258), CR (3264)
Hoops-4 Dubb ( 3240), PF ( 3256), Saldana ( 3259), Lathum (3302)



no vote: Poli

I'm out until after deadline. Have training tonight from 7-8.

I've got a sinking feeling that it really does not matter where Poli puts his vote. But hopefully I'm wrong and he makes the right call.

Later, all.

just about 7pm and I gotta say im okay with my vote being on pf and even more with the other people who are on pf with me. so if you 3, or 2 of you are wolves then you've earned it. but I don't think that's the case

I do not think Poli is a wolf, not with his Telle crusade.

And I do not think anyone currently on PF is a wolf.

That means, if the three wolves guess is correct, we have all three of those wolves currently on hoops.

So...

If you are a villager AND on hoops, you are the only one. You are the only person with the ability to ensure today's result. And right now, you're on the wrong person.

And Lord help us if Poli votes hoops.

This party sucks.

I worry I'm being led to the slaughter with hoops and CR. I worry that autumn is doing the same. I worry that dubb is somehow mixed in with this as well.

I need to go read up more on PF.

Who do you think the 3 are?

saldana is the only one with a vouching, so I think I have to go with him. If it's two wolves, it's him and dubb, due to voting record, although I agree with the earlier assertion that we may not be able to depend on voting records, the way things have turned out (for instance, PB, clap and The Jackal all had awful voting records, and all were villagers).

It's not so much about who feels wolfish, as who I think we can eliminate. Thusly, whoever is left, no matter how seemingly unlikely, must be the wolves.

Well I must have missed the memo about training getting canceled b/c when I showed up I was the only one there and there was a memo on the conference room door that said it had been re-scheduled so I will be around for deadline it looks like.

saldana being the villager with respect to "go with him", I should clarify, with dubb probably next. By process of elimination, the rest must be wolves if I am right. But I haven't been right often in this game, so take it FWIW.

I know what I am right on right now, though, and that's that Poli and that villager get on PF, if we are to have a chance of pulling this one out.

umm, what?

so you think Saldana IS a wolf because he is vouched for?

Can you just list 3 names.

CR's posts are getting increasingly desperate. I think they know we have them all in our sights now.

Read to the bottom, slick.

Says one of the guys who is likely a wolf.

we posted at the same time, bub.

Easy there wolfy.

Then correct yourself.

gah

what are you talking about?

lol...getting confident, eh? You and PF and Lathum know what the deal is, and you know how important it is you get this lynch. You also know if you don't...you wolves are going down.

I guess you better hope Poli hasn't been paying attention. Or that saldana won't come back before deadline.

Saldana won't be back.

I agree with Dubb, CR stinks of desperation right now

Pretty clear if you read back through. I'm not going to hold the hand of a wolf anymore. You go figure it out yourself.

And you stink of fear. Fear Poli's going to see through your bull.

You're the only guy in this whole thing who doesn't have one bit of vouching or clearance to him. Just your word about some mysterious role you have, and how that's supposed to be some clear for you.

The fact you're on hoops should tell him everything he needs to know.

are you freaking kidding me?

I ask you to clarify something at the same moment you are, you make a snide comment then expect me to go back and correct myself?

Dubb, you are usually a more rational player than your posts so far today.

so Poli, where ya leaning?

I feel like I have known about Lathum for awhile now. But the rest of the villagers don't seem to want to explore it. I hope that we have the opportunity to do so tomorrow, assuming there is a tomorrow.

I don't expect you to do anything. You were asking me a question. I answered you. I had to clarify it. You have not responded to the clarified answer, just got chippy in your usual way. If you don't want to respond to my actual answer, fine. Since you're a wolf, it doesn't really matter what you think.

I feel like I'm getting played.

Had the same suspicions myself, but I'll admit I got tunnel vision on voting records. Figured he was going so hard at it, I would give him a pass. For crying out loud, he even voted a villager in his "mysterious role clear" move. And here we are, days later, and he's still around. Amazing huh?

It's a testament to the title under his name.

I got chippy because you told me to go correct myself so stop trying to make me look like the manufactured bad guy.

Me too.

Poli, you see how hard Hoops and CR are doing the old 1-2?

It's almost like they can chat on AIM and coordinate with each other

Is there really any doubt about that? There's a group here playing with you. You have to decide which.

If I were you, I would ignore anything here that isn't dealing with the facts. You know what's happened in this game, and can make your own informed judgment.

I won't lie, it's an absolutely critical decision, and it's not clear to you, how could it be. So I am going to rely on your instincts myself. I am hopeful you'll make the right choice.

Lathum, just try to be classy when you win tonight. K, thx.

Have i EVER. ONCE. gloated in this game or on either side won as a poor sport?

Ever?

I resent the implication that I would even think about doing that.

You got chippy when you responded with "are you freakin' kidding me?" to my response. What followed was from that. Sorry if I don't sit back and take your constant attitude like some sheep.

And in the context of this game, there is nothing manufactured about your badness.

Question to help me understand:

What's the reasoning for going with PF instead of Lathum?

Saldana, I believe i know that you're a villager. I can say that based on the same info that allows me to say that about CR and Hoops, and Jackal before that. I really think you're in the wrong crowd there.

Poli, the desperation to go after Hoops today by those who are on my distrust list speaks a lot to me. This is near endgame and suddenly we have three people I've targeted all going after the closest we have to a cleared villager. It's a little too neat, don't you think? They know they don't have the numbers to do anything else.

I think the wolves are going to have a lot to puff out their chests about when this day is done.

I think both of us have engaged in a little smack talk in the past and I would certainly expect some after this one is over.

That said, I'm really frustrated with how this game has played out. The last couple of days have been pretty exasperating.

I have been very rational, but it seems the choice is either I'm a wolf or you three are blowing smoke up my ass. I know I am not a wolf so I have been working and will continue to work with the assumption that you three are blowing smoke up my ass.

Poli, I thik that was somewhat manufactured by me. Hoops at least wanted to go Lathum and couldn't get a lot of traction. Lathum is on my border list, I was not sure at the beginning of the day where to put him and I think by tomorrow I may have a better idea so I suggested we go elsewhere today.

I was responding to your comment that was dripping with your usual condescending smugness.

What's the argument for PF then?

At this point, the fact that we aren't going to get enough movement to make it happen?

If I got my pick, it would have been Lathum today but Autumn did not want to go there because he was uncertain about his read on Lathum. And since Chief and I need allies to try and drum up a wolf lynch, we kind of took what we could get.

Honestly, I think we are running villager/villager at this point. But I don't think anyone on me is moving off so I think the villagers have to hope that Autumn's instincts were good on this one.

This is a rather disingenuous post. You've already suggested they have a Lovers-type role.