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Ben E Lou 12-03-2020 09:19 AM

A left-leaning PAC is putting these billboards up in rural Georgia counties.


albionmoonlight 12-03-2020 09:28 AM

I have to think that the best outcome for Trump would be for Perdue and Loeffler to lose based on GOP turnout being lower than in the general election.

That would really help him build the narrative of "See, y'all need me on the ballot" for the next four years.

I think that Perdue and Loeffler will win regardless b/c a lot of the "educated conservative suburban women" who voted against Trump will have no problems putting roadblocks in front of President Biden. But I actually have no idea whatesover.

Lathum 12-03-2020 09:29 AM

Genius. It makes you wonder how many Trump disciples have the mental acuity to grasp what’s happening with the senate, or if they don’t really care about government and were just swept up in the cult.

albionmoonlight 12-03-2020 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3316586)
Genius. It makes you wonder how many Trump disciples have the mental acuity to grasp what’s happening with the senate, or if they don’t really care about government and were just swept up in the cult.


I think that they just enjoy the game. From what I can see, politics for the MAGAs is just another way of following sports.

Part of why they are supporting Trump's coup attempt is that they don't want the game to be over. Like that BW3 commercial where the fans kept rooting for overtime.

Atocep 12-03-2020 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3316592)
I think that they just enjoy the game. From what I can see, politics for the MAGAs is just another way of following sports.

Part of why they are supporting Trump's coup attempt is that they don't want the game to be over. Like that BW3 commercial where the fans kept rooting for overtime.


A large number of them love having people to hate and Trump makes it fun for them to hate others.

albionmoonlight 12-03-2020 10:08 AM

I'm not even kidding when I say that if college football were having a normal season, there'd be less MAGA interest in Georgia right now.

White Southern Boomers and Gen Xers are bored.

JPhillips 12-03-2020 10:31 AM

So Trump is going to veto the military budget because Twitter is mean to him.

And not a single GOPer is going to call him out for it.

albionmoonlight 12-03-2020 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3316600)
And not a single GOPer is going to call him out for it.



Worse, I suspect they just won't pass it so he won't have to veto it. And they will blame it on Pelosi. And the media will agree.

GrantDawg 12-03-2020 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3316601)
Worse, I suspect they just won't pass it so he won't have to veto it. And they will blame it on Pelosi. And the media will agree.

So Pelosi should counter by passing a bill with large increases in soldier salaries, funding for improvements in base-life, and large increases in military medical facilities. "Democrats care about our troops, and Republicans care about Trump's ego."

GrantDawg 12-03-2020 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3316585)
I have to think that the best outcome for Trump would be for Perdue and Loeffler to lose based on GOP turnout being lower than in the general election.

That would really help him build the narrative of "See, y'all need me on the ballot" for the next four years.

I think that Perdue and Loeffler will win regardless b/c a lot of the "educated conservative suburban women" who voted against Trump will have no problems putting roadblocks in front of President Biden. But I actually have no idea whatesover.

I live here, and I can't tell you how this will go. History says Demcrats lose run-offs in Georgia. The Democratic base just doesn't show up for special elections. But then, Democrats don't win statewide elections in general, but Biden just won. The big question is will all this attacking of the election system keep the average GOP voter home? Or will the idea of giving Democrats a huge win make them angry enough to turn out in droves? I just don't see anyway to know until January 5th.

RainMaker 12-03-2020 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3316600)
So Trump is going to veto the military budget because Twitter is mean to him.

And not a single GOPer is going to call him out for it.


Brilliant move with a runoff in Georgia which is a state that takes in a big chunk of the military budget. Just 4D chess or whatever.

RainMaker 12-03-2020 07:03 PM

Project Veritas got a half million in taxpayer PPP funds.

Edward64 12-04-2020 08:27 AM

No details but looks like a breakthrough in SA vs Qatar is coming up. One more step towards SA normalization with Israel which will be fantastic.

Trump aside, I do think Kushner gets much of the credit in this process.

albionmoonlight 12-04-2020 11:28 AM

Today, I just thought about how crazy it was that the opposition party was fighting for (and PASSED) a huge stimulus that would have helped him get re-elected. And if he had put his weight behind it, the GOP would have had to go along. Whether or not you agree with it, it would have helped him get re-elected.

And he couldn't get it done.

Edward64 12-04-2020 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3316730)
Today, I just thought about how crazy it was that the opposition party was fighting for (and PASSED) a huge stimulus that would have helped him get re-elected. And if he had put his weight behind it, the GOP would have had to go along. Whether or not you agree with it, it would have helped him get re-elected.

And he couldn't get it done.


I don't think it would have been a sure thing to pass the $2.2T even with Trump's support. But yeah, I think he should have pushed harder back then.

albionmoonlight 12-04-2020 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3316733)
I don't think it would have been a sure thing to pass the $2.2T even with Trump's support. But yeah, I think he should have pushed harder back then.


He says jump, they ask how high.

If he had pushed, they would have passed it.

Edward64 12-04-2020 03:06 PM

Country may get a Christmas present soon.

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What a difference a week makes.

On Monday, it looked like nothing was going to happen on stimulus. Now, it's possible a deal is brokered in a matter of days.
:
You saw an avalanche of positive comments coming from Republican senators on Thursday. They were open to this pathway, and that's because it's really the only option on the table right now that could become law

"I've never been more hopeful that we'll get a bill," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, a Republican from South Carolina.


The proposal includes:
  • $300 a week in enhanced federal unemployment benefits (there is still a debate about how retroactive this could be)
  • A continued pause on student loan payments
  • Eviction moratorium
  • Another round of money for the Paycheck Protection Program
  • $16 billion for vaccine development and distribution and Covid-19 testing and tracing
  • Extension of unemployment programs that allowed gig workers to file for unemployment insurance
  • Extension of the program that allows unemployed Americans to get 39 weeks instead of 26

But probably won't include stimulus checks. I guess this is why Mnuchin clawed back the $450B.

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Stimulus checks. The reason? You've seen so many Republicans want to get to "yes" on this legislation because the price tag is less than $1 trillion and much of that money is offset by reusing money that didn't get used in the last stimulus bill. There are many details that have to be worked out to ultimately get Republicans to vote for the proposal, but keeping the price tag below $1 trillion has been essential.

Right now, it doesn't look possible to include $1,200 stimulus checks for most Americans once members account for the costs of proposals like the Paycheck Protection Program, state and local funding and the unemployment benefits.

RainMaker 12-04-2020 03:35 PM

No stimulus checks AND liability protection for companies. Brutal.

NobodyHere 12-04-2020 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3316754)
No stimulus checks AND liability protection for companies. Brutal.


I don't mind liability protection for companies that followed the law.

But I agree the lack of stimulus checks is disappointing.

RainMaker 12-04-2020 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3316755)
I don't mind liability protection for companies that followed the law.

But I agree the lack of stimulus checks is disappointing.


It encourages companies to not provide protections for their employees. The opposite of what you'd want during a pandemic.

sterlingice 12-04-2020 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3316754)
No stimulus checks AND liability protection for companies. Brutal.


Yup. No state or local money either. Dems get taken to the cleaners again. It's almost as if that's how this was meant to go all along.
(EDIT: Looks like there is some state and local money but considering the dollars we're talking about for PPP, unemployment, etc - it seems like it's not going to be much)

It's as if we have two extremely corporate-backed parties, but one of them is all in on white nationalism so they're for the "working man"... somehow.

SI

kingfc22 12-04-2020 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3316752)
Country may get a Christmas present soon.

The proposal includes:
Another round of money for the Paycheck Protection Program.


Can't wait to read about all the corrupt individuals cashing out millions of dollars this time around as well.

albionmoonlight 12-04-2020 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 3316758)
Yup. No state or local money either. Dems get taken to the cleaners again. It's almost as if that's how this was meant to go all along.
(EDIT: Looks like there is some state and local money but considering the dollars we're talking about for PPP, unemployment, etc - it seems like it's not going to be much)

It's as if we have two extremely corporate-backed parties, but one of them is all in on white nationalism so they're for the "working man"... somehow.

SI


The Dems are so bad at this.

They are the party fighting to fund the police. The GOP is the party fighting to defund the police.

And when people say the Dems want to defund the police, they look sheepish and say "Well, I guess you got us there."

JPhillips 12-04-2020 04:47 PM

This is yet another good example of why nobody knows what Dems stand for. All of the things that were must-haves two months ago aren't important anymore.

BYU 14 12-04-2020 05:10 PM

One thing they better stand for is making sure the PPP funds are not abused this time.

Thomkal 12-04-2020 07:57 PM

Trump's Elite Strike Team lost 6 times today-MN, MI, WI, NV, AZ and GA. They are 1-46 in court cases.

BYU 14 12-04-2020 08:06 PM

The Kraken as a worse batting average than Mario Mendoza, who knew?

NobodyHere 12-04-2020 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3316792)
Trump's Elite Strike Team lost 6 times today-MN, MI, WI, NV, AZ and GA. They are 1-46 in court cases.


Well there is that ill-defined swamp and all that is preventing justice

Vegas Vic 12-05-2020 12:37 AM

As Donald Trump's reign thankfully comes to an end, and hopefully he fades into obscurity, I can't help but reflect on the pinnacle of his career, when he close-lined Vince McMahon on Monday Night Raw.


Ghost Econ 12-05-2020 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14 (Post 3316796)
The Kraken as a worse batting average than Mario Mendoza, who knew?


Still better than Chris Davis

ISiddiqui 12-06-2020 02:55 PM

And now Rudy tests positive for Covid

Thomkal 12-06-2020 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3316991)
And now Rudy tests positive for Covid


It's about time with all the people in his orbit who had it, Wonder if the "elite strike team" get it now too

Atocep 12-06-2020 03:36 PM

Another part of the deep state plot to steal the election. They had to knock Rudy out just as his lawsuits were gaining traction.

thesloppy 12-06-2020 03:43 PM

Rudy's been displaying symptoms for like 6 solid months now. I'm honestly surprised he hadn't had it yet.

ISiddiqui 12-06-2020 04:06 PM

Test Borat!

Ghost Econ 12-06-2020 04:18 PM

Fuck, I hope Kraken's can't get COVID.

Ben E Lou 12-06-2020 04:24 PM

Rudy hospitalized.

NobodyHere 12-06-2020 05:05 PM

Good thing for Rudy that Covid is fake news.

CrimsonFox 12-07-2020 04:10 AM


RainMaker 12-07-2020 04:35 PM

Whistleblower in Florida who called out the state for suppressing data.


sterlingice 12-07-2020 05:15 PM

That's definitely not scary at all

SI

miami_fan 12-07-2020 05:24 PM

Law and order at its finest. I guess I should be thankful that no one was shot.

GrantDawg 12-07-2020 06:10 PM

I saw that about Rebecca Jones. Really upsetting stuff. She should file a civil rights suit. I think she will have a case.

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Qwikshot 12-07-2020 06:18 PM

This is why when my mom was claiming Florida was safe, I was pretty sure it was because it's run by Republicans, not that it's actually safe.

BYU 14 12-07-2020 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3317169)
I saw that about Rebecca Jones. Really upsetting stuff. She should file a civil rights suit. I think she will have a case.

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Agree and as a Father I would have gone ballistic over them pointing a gun at my kids, no excuse for that.

GrantDawg 12-07-2020 07:09 PM

I guarantee that if Florida had gone to Biden, DeSantis would have not certified and tried to name Trump electors.

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JPhillips 12-07-2020 07:38 PM

Turns out Trump's Valdosta rally was held in an area that one of my wife's cousins owns.

RainMaker 12-07-2020 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3317183)
I guarantee that if Florida had gone to Biden, DeSantis would have not certified and tried to name Trump electors.

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No doubt, DeSantis is a straight up fascist. Also hats off to a few more "bad apples" in the police department.

GrantDawg 12-08-2020 06:24 AM

Perfect summary:

albionmoonlight 12-08-2020 06:45 AM



Apparently Trump's play-dough wall has led to more armed Mexicans being smuggled into the country rather than less.


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