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No.

It's from actual people, who used the term in reference to black folks who weren't in their proper place. Who thought they were better than white folks and in some cases, black folks using it to other black folks who think they're better than "ordinary" black people.

It's not as say, a common term now as it was. But that's due to the verbal judo that occurs in modern lexicon. But the term still has applicable and usage among some sectors, depending on where you go...

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Main Entry: up·pi·ty ne·gro
Pronunciation: 'up + -ity 'nE-(")grO
Function: proper noun
: a fearless black person who by social definition is "not in their place”
:a Black person who is committed to reversing the crimes of self-refusal, self-denial, and self-hatred that are endemic to the Black community and detrimental to the Black psyche
: UNAPOLOGETIC. VAINGLORIOUS. MULTIFARIOUS. JUST AUDACIOUS.


how is that a bad term then?

Thanks for being helpful here :confused: Some people are trying to do a bit more than just push agendas around in this thread here. :)


Fair enough. I've heard and read where people were called "Uncle Toms" or such, so it sounds like from this usage, it is just a less familiar method of calling someone the same. I don't think I would find many reasons to call someone "uppity" myself, but I guess I would perceive it as an insult either way (racial meaning or not)

I think it was definitely used in a racial context, but he'll be able to dodge any serious scandal because of plausable deniability and representing a district that probably doesn't much care.

It's bad from the perspective of the person calling someone that term, but the definition given here is a way of turning that term around and making it a compliment. I think most African-Americans would probably consider it a good thing to be called this, but would not like the person that said it.

Once again, my soul weeps.

No, they wouldn't. You don't have to understand why. Just trust me. It's not a complement.

It's not about a lack of understanding. I completely understand why it wouldn't, but I can also understand why someone could turn it around and take it the other way. Maybe "most" was not the right word to use, though.

I'm certainly not defending Westmoreland here. I think he's a racist fuck.

:facepalm:

There was a thread about "uppity" a while back, brought about by the former Rep. McKinney's camp, where they called the blacks in her district that did not support her 'uppity'.

sounds like a compliment then :)

Is there a difference?:lol:

I had to read Westmoreland's quote about three times to figure out what he was trying to say (almost looked like it was putting Palin & Obama in the same category the first couple of times I read it).

As written, it seems to me he was searching for something that meant "they think they're big shots"; i.e. "they think they're better than everyone else" or in some other regions maybe the colloquialism would be "they think they're hot shit" or "they think their shit don't stink".

As I've run across the word over time, I believe it can be used with more of a class distinction than a racial one although the most common usage is historical & racially connected.

Lynn isn't, in my estimation, isn't exactly the most refined guy in the world (although he tries to appear that way at times) and I suspect he was trying to avoid using some variation of the colorful phrases I mentioned and boil it down to a single word. Unfortunately for him, it wasn't exactly the best choice he could have made. I think he was largely trying to make the same criticism that Jesse Jackson made at one point but being a white guy, picked the wrong word to do it with, and should have stuck with "elitist" instead.

As for the impact of it all, well let's see. His district is 57% white but he pulled 75% of the general election vote last time. I'd be surprised if this changed those margins significantly this November.

lol

I am guessing if you are african american you know exactly what it means.

ST. PAUL -- The McCain campaign must be giddy with this news, just out from Nielsen: Sarah Palin's speech generated 37.2 million viewers, just 1.1 million viewers fewer than watched Barak Obama's Invesco Field acceptance speech. As Nielsen notes, only six networks carried Palin's speech compared with ten for Obama's.

So does this mean know interviews or press conferences the entire campaign from Palin?

That's pretty disheartening if so. I understand she's being hounded by the media, but an act like this doesn't really instill my confidence in someone's ability to be VP of our country.

unfortunately i wont be watching anything tonight that doesnt involve a pigskin.

I could've posted this in the NCAA thread. I told my wife I Baracked Kansas State today. She asked me what did that mean. I told her that it meant that I beat them around like an old white woman.

Palin's children should take priority over being Vice President » Brazen Careerist by Penelope Trunk

Penelope Trunk saying what barely anyone else would ever bother to say.

Obviously Palin's family has some unusual stuff going on which will make "being a family" pretty hard.

But I don't see what the difference is between what Palin would be doing and what Obama would be doing. Do you think his two daughters would have a normal life? Get to spend the time with their parents that me, you and millions of others had? Will Barack and Michelle be as intimately involved in their lives while running the country? Of course not.

Sure, these kids don't have any special issues, but they still need their parents. I don't see how anyone could attack Palin for leaving her family and not attack Obama in the same way.

This is my impression of Sarah Palin. She appears to be a nagging, annoying bitch. My god her speech yesterday was teeth grinding. Wife agrees as well. I'm not really sure who is more annoying. Palin, Sanchez, H. Clinton, Fienstein, or Boxer. GAH.

Or the other 43 presidents and their VPs.

If she wasn't a woman this wouldn't even be a talking point. Edwards' wife had cancer (which to me is worse, not to minimize down syndrome but I'd hate to spend the potential last months of my wife's life away from her constantly), and nobody was crying about him being VP.

Obama is on O'Reilly. Initial thoughts, he's certainly not rolling over for Bill. O'Reilly is trying to press him to say something they can soundbite.

At first I thought he was bloviating. O'Reilly broke the whole thing up into three more episodes. Cute. Nothing crazy and not likely to turn heads on either side.

What he said.

In fact, I looked at my posting history and I have used it 4 times on this board. It was to describe Falcons fans, Canadians, women, and Steve Francis. I guess I missed the "it's supposed to the racist" memo.


Yeah, see- you have to add that second part for it to be racist.

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Yeah, she's right. Just like Gore should be taking care of his kids instead of screwing around with alarmist global warming BS. Andy Reid should also stop worrying about cheese steaks and concentrate on his kids as well.

Who is Penelope Trunk and why do we care what she has to say?

Hey! I refuse to have the good people of KC lumped in with those awful Cardinals fans! :rant:

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I got the impression Jon Stewart was pretty pissed last night. He was in rare form.

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I laughed my ass off at his inclusion.

I was just going by my posting history :D

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Troopergate plods along:

Palin aides peeked into trooper's files, union says - CNN.com


State police union files ethics complaint against Palin

Protesters speak out at the RNC, crowd chants USA back.

LOL! The puke green background has returned!

Ugh.

This thing is like watching a pep rally for...I dunno.

When it comes to Public Speaking, McCain's no Palin ;)

Protestors are getting a lot of attention tonight in the hall. Moreso than I can remember in years past no?

Wow, its as if they strategically placed themselves to wait for one to get caught and then they'd start a new protestor or something.

"She's worked with her hands and nose..." huh? Nose?

interrupted again.

That guy threw that thing down WITH AUTHORITY!

I can't look at the damn screen! Did they give ANY thought to how the background would look on TV?

"Change is Coming" - McCain.

This shit is hilarious.

At least they changed it to blue. I don't know what the hell they were doing in the opening with the puke green turning into a swirling forest green.

This reminds me of the old John McCain a little. Tho he seems older and more tired now.

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did he just rail on union bosses? Isn't Mr. Palin a member of the Oil Workers Union? Im just saying the union workers and community organizers are gonna be pissed :)

Mccain isn't quite as charismatic as Palin was, that is for sure.

I love how all of the hand written signs were done by the same person.

ooh...tough talk. lol