You need to make a distinction between legal & illegal immigration. The wall is meant to keep out illegals (or at least sold that way) and it resonates with legal immigrants.

Legal immigrants are more in favor of reducing illegal immigration than the general public and they join the majority of Americans think legal immigration is good. I think its a matter of fairness.

There is a backlog of citizenship applications. There is a backlog of green card applications. Employment based green card is like 5 years. Another 5 years or so to become a citizen. So take care of everyone that is queued in line first (and everyone that starts queuing up in those 10 years).


I'd add that just because someone is anti-illegal immigration doesn't mean they support the poor treatment of illegals like long term separation of parents-kids.

See above. Also, need to make a distinction between legal and illegal immigration.

If we are speaking about illegal immigration, plenty of countries want to kick out illegals. Note the US and Mexico rankings. I guess we can blame all of this on racism (except for nordic Sweden of course).



I am looking forward to Biden's immigration policies, I really hope it's holistic reform (e.g. DACA, work programs, encouraging highly educated etc.) and he gives it top attention for first 100 days. But wouldn't surprise me if he preferred to spend his political capital & goodwill on other programs (just like Obama in his first 2 years).

Like figuring out how to undo all the pardon confetti thats about to get thrown about.


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I was wanting to make a video like this but now I don't have to because it's already made!

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=267632234667502

The local news just had a story about stores boarding up their windows over concerns of what might happen after the election. And a local company that specializes in boarding up windows said they were slammed.

What the hell is wrong with our country?

Too many left and right wing radicals.

I live in suburbia, deep in a subdivision so not personally worried (although I should get a refresher on GA "Castle Law"!).

I don't remember reading about boarding up or rioting concerns in Atlanta. So probably a regional thing?

In fact, there's a running joke among my Latino and Hispanic friends that the second one makes $50k a year, they turn into Trump supporters.

Jerry Falwell Jr. is suing Liberty University after his forced resignation over sex scandal


If the jeans didn't fit, you must acquit.

He's also suing the Lincoln Project and I think his pool boy for their combined efforts in defaming him.

I'm sure he's got a job waiting for him at the new Trump Church which will surely be formed in a few months.

Here's a video of McConnell trying to troll Hillary Clinton today. What is their obsession with someone who holds no elected office and they beat in 2016? It's so creepy.

These people are fuckin' deranged.

https://twitter.com/drdesrochers/sta...777850368?s=20

Walmart is doing the same.

FWIW, I've been to Walmart & Academy Sports and there is definitely a shortage of ammo.

Couldn't find 9mm or .223 calibers, just mostly shotgun shells, 22 and other exotic calibers.

On the one hand, this is truly repugnant, but I also think the more open Trump is about overriding the voters, the less likely SCOTUS will make those decisions.

If Sleepy Joe Biden is actually elected President, the 4 Justices (plus1) that helped make such a ridiculous win possible would be relegated to sitting on not only a heavily PACKED COURT, but probably a REVOLVING COURT as well. At least the many new Justices will be Radical Left!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 30, 2020

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/29/polit...ida/index.html

I guess this means we did in fact have a national COVID strategy.

Sadly, we won't be rid of this asshole any time soon.

‘There Are No Boundaries’: Experts Imagine Trump’s Post-Presidential Life if He Loses - POLITICO

No. I would expect Trump to run again in 2024 unless he is charged and convicted of something. His ego is not going to let him leave the stage.

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Trump may continue to campaign after Election Day if results are not finalized: report | TheHill

Bwahaha!

The Trumps learning that they can send out emails and hold rallies to “earn” money is why I’m worried we are going to have him and his children around for the next 20 years. Wait til they hear about megachurches.

I have so many right winger friends who are now beginning to trickle out that they support Trump staying in office no matter then results that it truly is frightening what lengths they'll go to to ignore constitutional norms and American Democratic expectations for their demagogue.

Somehow all the while hanging onto Christian idealogues as well.

Unbelievable really.

Reminds me of the movie Us at the end. They'll never put the Red away.

It just goes to show you were we are as a society now. You see it in simple things through out your daily life. Trump has made it okay to 46% of the country to be an asshole, to not give a shit about anyone who disagrees with you or gets in your way. They were already this way and now the POTUS said it is ok.

So, now these jokers want to ignore our most important laws.

To qoute myself from the other thread: Trumpism is not going away. Even with a landslide loss here, the GOP is going to be completely controlled by Trump and his people for many years to come.

I don't know why we should still be surprised. His supporters have looked the other way, made excuses, or downright cheered his flaunting of our laws and norms. Countless violations of the Hatch Act, Emoluments clause, using EO to try and craft policy, etc...The problem is they dont care that he breaks the laws because they dont think they should apply to him.

Happy National Day of Remembrance for Americans killed by Illegal Aliens, 2020! Yes the White House sent out a press release for it

I guess this has been a thing for 11 years...but I'm guessing this is the first time the White House has acknowledged it.

Is that really the name of it?

I look forward to Happy Day of Remembrance for Americans killed by Donald, I mean COVID Day!

Ugh. This presidency has lasted for 1,000 pages now.

Yeah, that can just go ahead and go away. Get rid of that nonsense (I was speaking about the Remembrance Day and not the Trump Presidency, but that, too)

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This is the origin of it btw:

The Remembrance Project – A voice for victims killed by illegal aliens

The Remembrance Project | Southern Poverty Law Center

Important to notice that these ideas of the Admin almost always come down to him embracing some organisation or other reading about them on Twitter or seeing a representative or sth on FOX. Then keeps it in his pocket till he needs them (notice the project website still has it as a petition and for first Sunday in Nov)

That's it, really. Free rein to be assholes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...2020-election/


Just get pleasure in fucking up other peoples' apple carts.

I always thought this quote from a supporter was revealing:

“I voted for him, and he’s the one who’s doing this,” Minton told Mazzei. “I thought he was going to do good things. He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”

A Trump voter hurt by the shutdown’s incredibly revealing quote - Vox

Yep, I remember that one too.

Sadly the left is not immune to conspiracy theories, USA Today and others had to do a story that no there was no body double for Melania Trump on the campaign trail :(

I'm standing in Target wondering what the overlap is between Trump supporters and people wearing their mask under their nose.

Fascists never change.

The Atlantic with an article a while ago that hit on it: The Cruelty Is the Point - The Atlantic

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#istandwithfrance

Dangerous times ahead for Macron and France. I wish he had a more reliable partner in the US.

Support your freedom of speech/expression stance but also support Muslim countries being outraged and boycotting French stuff. Tough situation for sure.

I feel like I've posted something like this before??

If Biden wins he should declare them an anarchist campaign.

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"Russian media outlet" is also quite neutrally put, this is essentially Putins foreign propaganda outlet

He's not Trump's fault. He didn't pay the bus company and they didn't show. That's on the bus company.

Great response but I'd give the round to the video & tweet being more galvanizing.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/31/polit...ers/index.html

I know Fauci has been under attack but I don't get his public dissent now which essentially let's Trump add fuel to the fire for his base.

He should just keep quiet until after the elections. If asked, just say "no comment for now but am looking forward to sharing my thoughts later". If and after a Biden win, say anything he wants.

Maybe it just came down to he couldn't live with himself if he didn't speak up before the election.

Guess The Hatch Act should only apply to people supporting trump...

I mean, trump has been talking all kinds of shit about Fauci (personally, professionally, and his knowledge and experience) for weeks, but sure, Fauci is the one playing politics with the Covid.

Lets also not forget the Trump campaign used Faucis words out of context in a political ad without his permission.

There are lives at stake and Trump is having his attack dog 'scientist' spouting nonsense, lies about both the nature of the pandemic and the response to it. Fauci is an infectious disease specialist seeing that as a big fucking problem. If you don't get how one (the President and his 'advisors' misleading the public and undermining Public Health response) begets the other (Fauci 'dissenting') you have to stop and think again.

And btw: The biggest problem is not Scientists or other Experts thinking lockdowns are terrible and hurt people (they do !) or disagreeing on issues. It is backing that believe with bullshit, lies and omissions.

If i see one more Scientist or Expert or Doctor from a relevant field (say Economics, Pediatricians, Psychologists etc) wade into the discussion with their 'facts' on topics they know little about i am going to vomit. They should make the case about, say, psychlogical and economic impact, not on wether or not the CDC counte deaths correctly, the virus is petering out or if masks are good or not.

Why the fuck is a Neuroradiologist in charge of being the sole arbitrator of what's important or good (or not) during a Public Health emergency caused by a virus ?

I can see the don't add fuel to the fire argument for primarily political operators, but it shouldn't apply to medical professionals. Their job is to call it as they see it, not worry about how it will impact Trump's base.

Trump supporters showed up to William Barr's house to protest the fact that he hasn't locked up Joe Biden yet.

We're nearly guaranteed to see serious violence if Trump loses and Trump is going to stoke that violence as much as he can. It's going to be interesting to see how the rest of the GOP in Washington handles it.

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