It turns out it is sometimes more difficult to participate in WW when on vacation instead of at work. Been pretty busy time for me. But I'm checking on when I can.

That's some awful luck we had yesterday with spleen. Like others have said, I don't think he woild have hinted at it anywhere. So the wolves really rolled the dice right.

Not sure if it matters much, but it might be good to know just how many of us know what game we're in. There are 11 players left.

If this is Game 1, only three of us (2 wolves, wolf seer) know what game we're in. If this is Game 4, five of us currently know (3 wolves, cultist, hunter).

Of course in both cases, the ones in the know are almost exclusively wolves or wolf wannabes. So not sure what we can take from that right now.

I am not sure how we can really process the voting history here after JAG's strange play. Abe made a vote pretty late on JAG, but I don't think we can really learn anything from that. It was afterall, day 1.

I just don't know where to go with my vote today. I think DV's actions are suspicious, but I bet he just lost track of time with the vote. Plus he didn't vote for JAG, which is a known villager.

Britrock and DT make sense on some levels, but mauboy not so much. The only argument for him was that he was not around much yesterday.

well which is it? :) (I'm definitely not trying to plant seeds...)

I figured you just forgot again really (which is hilarious), but that's the only thing in my mind about the timing. HOwever, there is the fact that someone else followed me onto you.

I don't think this was implied in the rules, but is it possible that the WW seer was able to scan first and the order the kill? This is assuming we are in game 1.

I don't think that is the case though, since it said an extra night action.

I am also not in the camp that the hit on spleen was totally random. But I am not sure what tipped the wolves off.

Going to sleep for about 5... I'm sticking with my DV vote for now.

Caught up, and bumping the vote count to the new page:

2 DT - mauboy (214) Abe Sargent (237)
2 DV - britrock (189), Simbo (192)
2 mauboy - CF (199) DaddyTargo (238)
1 britrock - Suicane (233)
1 CF - booradley (234)

unvote mauboy

DOn't really buy it for now really. Just wanted to get you talking.

I think I'll go with who voted for you though.

Vote Daddy Targo

VOTE BRITROCK88

I got to place a vote before I head out the door. I really don't like his quick vote on DV after Day 1. I also thought it was weird he kept his day 1 vote on CF, despite his silly reasoning which I thought was really just a joke.

Those are just theories and not really solid concrete evidence to go on. I just don't want to pile on DV at this point just because of a late vote.

self-defense vote. heading out in a couple minutes here (once I do a superman-style office change)

UNVOTE MAUBOY

VOTE DARTH VILUS

Coffee Warlord in da house!

I don't really feel that that late vote by DV was supposed to be a "make me look good while doing nothing" vote, but there is so very little to go on right now.

So I am going to roll with that unless I hear a better theory.

VOTE DARTH VILUS

Okay, odd and sudden string of posts (heavy with votes).

Time of day. I have this party that I have to leave for in the next 15 minutes or so, as I noted earlier.

Let me take a couple minutes to read back and address the case against me before I leave though.

3 DT - mauboy (214) Abe Sargent (237) CF (259)
4 DV - britrock (189), Simbo (192) Daddy Targo (261) Chief Rum (263)
2 britrock - Suicane (233) Goldeneagle (260)
1 CF - booradley (234)

I think that's right.

fwiw i would be ok voting CF too.

well sheesh, maybe I should vote for you after all...

Since I'm headed out and won't be around, let me take a minute here to address this.


mauboy says my reaction to the JAG situation rubs him the wrong way. I don't think he was around for some of the games where I notably self-sacrificed myself. My comment last night about it being admirable was a reference back to those games, and saying that I knew what was going thru JAG's mind.

anyways...i'm headed out for this holiday party.

I think the thing I would like to know is if JAGfelt he was doing the village a service by ensuring he was the one that was lynched, or if it was just a vote made out of frustration, which I see more often on self-votes.

The first kind, we might take some meaning from it. The second kind is more or less worthless to us.

But Jag doesn't seem the type to get frustrated like that especially so early on. He seems to just not join a game at all if he's not feeling the WW love.

Do we want to force a tie vote so that the wolves and our roles, now misue th eseer, swtich places? Don't I remembe that being the tie rule?

Is this Abe mispelling things again to announce that he's the cultist?

Which if there was a cultist it would make this game as #4.

How does that work?

Of course bnot. Here's the deal, and it's a bit fank, so beware. I have alays been a not so hot typer and when i dont edit, things get a little out there. But, recently, in the last year, with the begining my the physical symptoms o HD, i miss the keys a bit more, so it takes too long to correct all of my erros, and I saw screw it and just move on, unless I'm doing a dynsaty.

To make things clear, I am NOT sending an "I am a Cultist" message with my mistyping.

My gut is that JAG was confident about CF being a villager. Perhaps he figured there was a greater chance that CF is a roled villager than that he is a wolf. FWIW (which may not be much if we're in Game 1), I take JAG's self-vote to heart as a vote of confidence in CF.

No, that was EF's plan for a tied vote in the Santa game.

DV is our lone non-voter.

Again

Saying that in a gameplay way, not with in a snarky way.

Ah gotcha. What;s the tie for this game? Is it the same for each rule set or random?

from the ruleset.

As DV continues not to be around, I wonder if he's an uninterested VV. That said, the late vote yesterday is more of a bad vibe than I have felt from either DT or CF this game.

Woohoo, I made it back for deadline.

An exciting one!

Just walked in. See if I can't catch up real quick.

Yeah - maybe you just didn't know this mau, but it's a symptom, not any type of signaling. So we all just overlook it as long as we know what he's trying to say.

Aaah okay, didn't really miss much of anything.

Well that's deadline.

I didn't know. I always see him type up big long dynasties and didn't figure for anything of the sort. Sorry, Abe!

Ambivalence!.

Interesting. I guess that is better than coming up empty. So that means we are game #4, right?